Also why the heck is Copeland not starting??

Right? I have no idea. Seems like the obvious call. Maybe he’s hurt, too, somehow?

lavor postell: Were you able to track how much of the decrease in rim attempts was a direct effect of Rose’s ability to get to the rim versus the inability of players like C.J. Watson and John Lucas III to replicate that skill.

Might be interesting to see how many of those non-corner 3?s were taken by Rose’s replacements as well.Watson in particular stands out because everytime I watch him his attempts seem to predominantly come from the wings or top of the key area.

Might also be worth looking at a league wide breakdown of shot distribution.Would be interesting to see how many more attempts per game at the rim are taken by guys like Westbrook and Rose versus your league average pg rate for rim attempts.

Oh Lavor I want to do a much more in depth analysis of all this, and I’m aware of the points you brought up, but right now I just don’t have the data to study this like I’d want to. I do think it’s interesting that the Bulls corner 3′s attempts went up with Rose in the lineup considering he doens’t take any. If a team’s shot attempts in corner 3′s rise when someone like Rose plays, and his direct replacement takes a lot more corner 3′s than he does, I do think that’s noteworthy. It also helps that in my specific example, Rose missed a lot of the season, so there is a nice sample with Rose on and off the court. Still until I can actually get my hands on the data all I can do is have a hypothesis at this point.

This was a tweet from Berman earlier today:

Tough day for Felton. Chided by fans for trying to play hurt while Melo & Amar’e saluted for not wanting to play less than 100 percent.

Melo and Felton out tonight, YIKES, starting lineup of:

Kidd, Brewer, White, Thomas, Chandler

The knee injury during the Laker game looked scary when it happened, but then he stayed in the game and played the rest of the game so I wasn’t worried, but now he’s missing the game? Scary!

Just like that lineup. Yikes.

Also, what is Woody’s problem with starting JR?

jon abbey:
Melo and Felton out tonight, YIKES, starting lineup of:

Kidd, Brewer, White, Thomas, Chandler

Also known as the Wages of Wins All-Stars.

Kidd, Brewer, White, Thomas, Chandler

Juany8:
I just so happen to be good at excel and SQL! Mostly excel, but that shit’s powerful enough to work as a database nowadays, I really want to try to define the interaction effects we all love to discuss so much lol. My hypothesis for the moment has been that the truly elite offensive and defensive players are people who can change an entire team’s shot distribution, not an individual’s. Could be interesting, for instance, I just looked and saw that when Rose was out last year, the Bulls took 5% less of their overall shots at the rim, which was mostly transferred to mid range and non corner 3 looks. With Brewer in and out of the lineup, the shot distribution didn’t change that drastically anywhere, they did take more 3?s overall, but the mid range shots went down too, so it’s not clear that Brewer has the same kind of positive impact on shot distribution as Rose.

I’d love to do this simple little analysis with every player in the NBA, just to see how it looks like.

Were you able to track how much of the decrease in rim attempts was a direct effect of Rose’s ability to get to the rim versus the inability of players like C.J. Watson and John Lucas III to replicate that skill.

Might be interesting to see how many of those non-corner 3′s were taken by Rose’s replacements as well. Watson in particular stands out because everytime I watch him his attempts seem to predominantly come from the wings or top of the key area.

Might also be worth looking at a league wide breakdown of shot distribution. Would be interesting to see how many more attempts per game at the rim are taken by guys like Westbrook and Rose versus your league average pg rate for rim attempts.

Juany8:
I just so happen to be good at excel and SQL! Mostly excel, but that shit’s powerful enough to work as a database nowadays, I really want to try to define the interaction effects we all love to discuss so much lol. My hypothesis for the moment has been that the truly elite offensive and defensive players are people who can change an entire team’s shot distribution, not an individual’s. Could be interesting, for instance, I just looked and saw that when Rose was out last year, the Bulls took 5% less of their overall shots at the rim, which was mostly transferred to mid range and non corner 3 looks. With Brewer in and out of the lineup, the shot distribution didn’t change that drastically anywhere, they did take more 3?s overall, but the mid range shots went down too, so it’s not clear that Brewer has the same kind of positive impact on shot distribution as Rose.

I’d love to do this simple little analysis with every player in the NBA, just to see how it looks like.

We should talk about a project at some point. I have a lot of ideas that could use someone who has a better statistical and scientific background than me.

I didn’t go any further than social statistics for my undergrad.