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Knicks Morning News (Tuesday, Mar 12 2013)

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] Rapid Reaction: Warriors 92, Knicks 63 (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 01:04:18 EDT)
    WHAT IT MEANS: The Golden State Warriors, with their run-and-gun style, ran the New York Knicks completely out of Oracle Arena on Monday night, as the ‘Bockers scored a season low in a 92-63 loss.
    And this is just the start of the Knicks’ five-game road trip, during which their next four opponents — the Denver Nuggets, Portland Trail Blazers, Los Angeles Clippers and Utah Jazz — all play similarly to Golden State.
    While Carmelo Anthony returned on Monday after missing three games, he was clearly still battling through right knee stiffness.

  • [New York Newsday] Knicks lose to Warriors, 92-63, in Carmelo Anthony's return (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:42:56 EDT)
    Carmelo Anthony returned Monday night and the Knicks held Stephen Curry under 30 points. But that formula didn't result in a victory.

  • [New York Daily News] Golden Slumber: With Melo hurting, Knicks sleep through loss to Warriors (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:56:14 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony on one good leg doesn’t look like an MVP candidate, that’s for sure. Needless to say, the Knicks aren’t very potent without their best player at full strength, either. Anthony’s first game since being sidelined one week with a right knee injury was an unmitigated disaster for both the player and his team

  • [New York Daily News] Lawrence: Melo’s knee continues to raise questions (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:10:56 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony returned to the court Monday night against Golden State, still not knowing exactly what’s wrong with his right knee and unable to unequivocally state that he is back to stay.

  • [New York Post] Melo returns, but Warriors beat up on Knicks (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:18:46 -0500)
    OAKLAND, Calif. â?? Stephen Curry scored 26 points, David Lee had 21 and the Golden State Warriors routed the New York Knicks 92-63 on Monday night for their most lopsided win of the season.
    Almost two weeks after his 54-point masterpiece at Madison Square Garden, Curry shared the spotlight with his…

  • [New York Post] Knicks falls flat in Anthony’s return (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:51:05 -0500)
    OAKLAND â?? The Knicks are ready to write a new book: “How the West was Lost.”
    Carmelo Anthony’s return was a complete disaster and the Knicks were a complete mess last night as they began their daunting, five-game West Coast trip with a disgraceful 92-63 loss to the Warriors at…

  • [New York Post] Fast flop turns us into Golden State worriers (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:31:21 -0500)
    OAKLAND â?? So it starts with precisely the kind of gruesome, grisly, no-show, no-account performance you feared it would start with, equal parts pathetic and infuriating.
    It starts with the Golden State Warriors pummeling the Knicks, clobbering them in every phase of the game, it starts with Stephen Curry and Klay…

  • [New York Post] Brass needs to think big (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:55:07 -0500)
    OAKLAND â?? With uncertainty surrounding the returns of power forwards Amar’e Stoudemire and Rasheed Wallace, coach Mike Woodson admitted he and general manager Glen Grunwald may open up a roster spot and sign a big man after the West Coast trip.
    Stoudemire had his right-knee debridement surgery at the Hospital…

  • [New York Post] Garden raises tix prices again (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:53:50 -0500)
    The Knicks haven’t won a playoff series since 2001, but the Garden’s $800 million, three-year transformation continues to give owner James Dolan cause to jack up season-ticket prices.
    In a press release, the Knicks announced season-ticket prices will go up, on average, 6.4 percent for next season…

  • [New York Post] Melo in knee-d (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:27:38 -0500)
    OAKLAND â?? Carmelo Anthony played last night in the Knicks’ 92-63 loss to the Warriors, but what condition his knee will be in the rest of the season still is a question, as is the cause of his knee stiffness.
    Anthony, who scored 14 points last night on 4-of-15 shooting, said…

  • [New York Post] Philippines bans Balkman for life (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:09:11 -0500)
    Former Knick Renaldo Balkman was banned from the Philippines’ professional basketball league for life after choking a teammate in the middle of a game, the association’s commissioner said yesterday.
    Balkman, who played four seasons with the Knicks and two with the Nuggets, also was fined $6,100 for the…

  • [New York Times] Warriors 92, Knicks 63: Knicks, With Carmelo Anthony Back, Are Routed by Warriors (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 08:05:28 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony started Monday night after missing three games with a sore knee, but Golden State held the Knicks to a season low in scoring in a 29-point rout.

  • [New York Times] Warriors Whip Knicks 92-63 Behind Curry, Lee (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:22:03 GMT)
    By the time Mark Jackson walked off the floor and into the Golden State Warriors’ locker room late Monday night, the coach already had a text message from his mother, Marie, who watched her son’s win against the Knicks on national television from the family’s New York home.

  • [New York Times] Koufos-Led Nuggets Beat Suns for 9th Straight Win (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:54:51 GMT)
    Kosta Koufos scored a career high 22 points on 10-of-11 shooting, mostly from point-blank range, and the Denver Nuggets ran their winning streak to nine games with a 108-93 victory over the Phoenix Suns on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Splitter Helps Spurs Beat Thunder 105-93 (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:39:58 GMT)
    The San Antonio Spurs rebounded from their worst loss of the season with a balanced performance against one of the NBA’s best teams.

  • [New York Times] Spurs 105, Thunder 93: Spurs Halt Thunder’s Winning Streak (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:03:52 GMT)
    San Antonio, coming off its second-worst home loss ever, beat Oklahoma City in a game between the conference’s top two teams.

  • [New York Times] Jazz Stop Slide With 103-90 Victory Over Pistons (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:45:52 GMT)
    Mo Williams scored 20 points, Al Jefferson had 16 and the Utah Jazz snapped a four-game losing streak with a 103-90 victory over the Detroit Pistons on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] 76ers 106, Nets 97: Nets Allow 76ers to Find Their Offense (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:35:37 GMT)
    Deron Williams did what he could, scoring 27 points with 13 assists, but it wasn’t enough to fend off the 76ers, who shot 53 percent from the field and hit 8 of 15 3-pointers.

  • [New York Times] 76ers Top Nets 106-97 to End 5-Game Losing Streak (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:07:10 GMT)
    Damien Wilkins saw Brook Lopez spin into the paint and try another fadeaway jumper. Wilkins blocked the shot â?? more of a volleyball spike â?? and one-hopped the ball out of bounds.

  • [New York Times] Carmelo Anthony First Returns to Lineup, Then Will Return to Denver (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 01:19:06 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony returned to the Knicks on Monday after missing three games because of a knee injury. On Wednesday he faces his former team, the Nuggets, in Denver.

  • 52 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Tuesday, Mar 12 2013)

    1. Frank O.

      So, so glad to miss most of last night. I quite the moment when Woodson balked out Melo for not closing on Curry on a switch that led to a 3. It was clear then Melo had not thrust off the bad knee.

    2. Robtachi

      This is one of those times in Knick fandom when you can sense a season on the brink of going down the toilet. We’ll see what happens…

    3. Robtachi

      Haha, my god, I can’t remember who said it, but someone in the recap comments decried MSG management and how ticket prices were a mortal lock to go up again based on superficial success from a still deeply flawed team. And now the morning news, tickets are going up on average by 6.4% next year.

    4. d-mar

      Melo’s worst nightmare tomorrow night – returns to Denver barely able to get 2 inches off the ground with a rabid crowd enjoying every minute of the Nuggets beatdown of the Knicks.

      This season could get really ugly really quickly.

    5. jon abbey

      d-mar:

      This season could get really ugly really quickly.

      yeah, that’s what I’ve been saying for a few weeks. winning 6 out of 8 before last night should at least allow us to hold onto the division lead a little while longer, but if Boston sweeps us at the end of the month, that’s not looking good either anymore.

    6. Brian Cronin

      A four game lead in the loss column over Brooklyn and five game lead over Boston should definitely be safe with only 21 games left in the season.

      As always, we react too much to bad losses and good wins. The former leads to overly pessimistic views and the latter leads to overly optimistic views.

      The Knicks are still almost surely a top 4 seed. Can they lose to any of the teams in the Top 7 currently? Sure, they could but I don’t think it is likely against Atlanta or Brooklyn. Boston will play them tougher, but even there the Knicks should win.

      I know that it sucks that they likely won’t make the ECF, but I haven’t seen the Knicks make the second round in a dozen years, so I can more than live with it.

    7. jon abbey

      Brian Cronin:
      A four game lead in the loss column over Brooklyn and five game lead over Boston should definitely be safe with only 21 games left in the season.

      they’re going to be underdogs in each of the next four, let’s see how much of a lead they have left when they come back home.

    8. Will the Thrill

      I give it a 1% chance of happening. Denver is the kind of team who we match up horribly with (like the Rockets). But I hope you’re right.

      er:
      lol funny if the knicks win tommorow, which will probably happen knowing this team

    9. d-mar

      Brian Cronin:

      As always, we react too much to bad losses and good wins. The former leads to overly pessimistic views and the latter leads to overly optimistic views.

      I agree with that, but what’s making me really nervous about the rest of this season is what I saw of Melo last night. He had no lift and looked completely disengaged from the game. It’s not like he hasn’t played in a month, he missed 3 games, so there’s something going on. Without him at close to 100%, he’s a net negative and we could lose more games like last night.

    10. lavor postell

      Will the Thrill:
      I give it a 1% chance of happening. Denver is the kind of team who we match up horribly with (like the Rockets). But I hope you’re right.

      So poorly we beat them at the Garden by a deceptive margin of 4. Denver is obviously playing much better now, but I’d really be surprised if the Knicks were to come out and get their asses kicked. If we can’t make wide open threes though, there is little shot we beat Denver. I totally expect Lawson, Brewer and Faried to have monstrous games tomorrow night. Huge game for the Knicks though as they try and make a statement for franchise player Kenyon Martin in his return.

    11. lavor postell

      Also I’d like to say to all the anti-Melo/pro-Chandler Knick fans that exist because apparently it’s fun to root for and against players on your own fucking team like a competitive rivalry Tyson Chandler is not an elite defensive player this year. He’s barely been a good defender at times and it’s really starting to concern me. Early in the year I pretty much figured with the amount of basketball he’s played over the last couple of years he was saving himself for the stretch run.

      That time is here and I’m not seeing the consistent defensive effort that was ever present last year. The only time he transforms into DPOY Tyson Chandler is when he is sharing the floor with Martin, Camby or STAT (to a lesser degree). While this makes sense that better defensive players will make it easier for Chandler to do his job, it almost seems like his energy and effort is also dependant on being paired with another big.

      We know that both STAT and Melo are great scorers who aren’t going to be great defenders. This is why Chandler was acquired and why it worked so well last year in spite of the 17 different seasons we endured over those 66 games. Basically I just think Chandler’s defensive coverage and overall focus on that end has dropped significantly and only seems to come about in bits and spurts which has been frustrating.

      Last night just look at how pathetic our defense was when Martin wasn’t on the floor regardless of if Chandler was or not. Really does not make for pleasant viewing.

    12. lavor postell

      Sorry what I meant to say was that our defense only looked good when Martin was on the floor, regardless of if Tyson was with him or not.

    13. jon abbey

      yeah, a game by game comparison of defensive effort between Chandler and Noah would be really embarrassing for Tyson.

    14. er

      lavor postell:
      Sorry what I meant to say was that our defense only looked good when Martin was on the floor, regardless of if Tyson was with him or not.

      he should start with melo at the 3

    15. Hubert Davis

      jon abbey: yeah, that’s what I’ve been saying for a few weeks. winning 6 out of 8 before last night should at least allow us to hold onto the division lead a little while longer, but if Boston sweeps us at the end of the month, that’s not looking good either anymore.

      Not to one up you, but I kept pointing to this stretch every time someone preached calm after losing to Sacto, Philly, Washington, Toronto, and all those other crap teams we were losing to when we needed to be padding our record. Tough times were on the horizon.

    16. Hubert Davis

      d-mar:
      Melo’s worst nightmare tomorrow night – returns to Denver barely able to get 2 inches off the ground with a rabid crowd enjoying every minute of the Nuggets beatdown of the Knicks.

      I can’t deal with the inevitable media referendum on the melo trade. Hopefully it won’t happen here. I’m too depressed.

    17. Hubert Davis

      Also: if we’re not getting beat down by the Nuggets, won’t Melo’s pride and Woodson’s lack of restraint lead to Melo playing 43 minutes in thin air on a bum knee?

    18. flossy

      Hubert Davis: I can’t deal with the inevitable media referendum on the melo trade.Hopefully it won’t happen here.I’m too depressed.

      Are you kidding? I’d put “embittered rehashing of the Melo trade after the game tomorrow” up there with death and taxes on the list of sure bets.

    19. Nick C.

      To be honest I don’t get it. I had and have my opinion but that was three years ago. The occasional comment I get, but the diatribes and twenty odd posts on three year old news gets old.

      flossy: Are you kidding?I’d put “embittered rehashing of the Melo trade after the game tomorrow” up there with death and taxes on the list of sure bets.

    20. Frank O.

      You know, everyone talks about Melo…but as much as I love Amare, the thing that sticks in my throat is David Lee.
      His TS% is .578 career, and an eFG% of .535, this year it’s .557 and .514.
      He’s getting 18.3 and 10.8 boards per 36, and almost 4 assists a game.
      And his defense is much better, which is key. He’s much better at keeping his man in front of him. He’s not elite, but good.

      You know, a lot of folks disparaged him, suggesting that he would not be able to sustain strong play with high usage. Right now he’s at about 24% usage.

      My point is that Lee has stood the test of time, and given his salary and with the benefit of hindsight, and as much as I love Amare, he probably would have been a nice piece right now.
      Not sure we would have landed Melo without Amare.
      I suspect there’s plenty of debate left as to whether it made sense to give up as much as the Knicks did for Melo. I don’t intend to go there.

      But with the benefit of hindsight, it would have been well worth paying David Lee what he was asking. The dude is a double-double machine, leads the league with 42 in 62 games so far.

    21. Owen

      Nick C. – It’s not just about something that happened three years ago. It’s about the future direction of the franchise. It’s about keeping the Knicks from continuing to make the mistakes they have made in the past.

      If getting blown out by the Nuggets by 40 makes Dolan realize what a colossal bonehead he is and what a giant mistake the Stat signing and the Melo trade were, then good. If we win without Melo and Stat, even better.

      The Chandler and Melo argument isn’t going away either, not as long as Chandler is clearly the best, most important member of this team.

      Why people complain about his defense, on a team where the only other credible defensive options are a 40 year old Gimpy and a 35 year old Kenyon, just baffles me. He is still an excellent defender. And if there were anyone on this team capable of playing credible perimeter defense, he would be a lot better.

    22. JC Knickfan

      Brian Cronin:
      A four game lead in the loss column over Brooklyn and five game lead over Boston should definitely be safe with only 21 games left in the season.

      Ultimate Jinx – not good.

      Denver (2) & LAC (6)
      Home court record ranking in parentheses.

      Utah and Port both games on backend of a B2B. That’s always hard to win.

      I see 0-5 on this roadtrip.

    23. Frank O.

      jon abbey: actually there was just a study that said he was by far the worst defensive big man in the league, he makes Amar’e look like Chandler:

      http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/52811/courtvision-david-lees-interior-defense-a-k-a-the-golden-gate

      interesting read. I’ve watched him play quite a bit this year and my impression was different. I don’t have data, obviously. But watching his on-ball defense, there wasn’t the tell tale matador D that we once watched Lee exhibit in NYC.
      And while he’s never been a shot blocker or a steal machine, he gets 8 D boards a game, which is not to be ignored.

    24. Frank O.

      Frank O.: interesting read. I’ve watched him play quite a bit this year and my impression was different. I don’t have data, obviously. But watching his on-ball defense, there wasn’t the tell tale matador D that we once watched Lee exhibit in NYC.
      And while he’s never been a shot blocker or a steal machine, he gets 8 D boards a game, which is not to be ignored.

      And by comparison, Amare gets about 8 boards a game, total.

    25. flossy

      Frank O.: And by comparison, Amare gets about 8 boards a game, total.

      And the Knicks shot up the rankings in rebounding percentage all the way to #1 as soon as he stepped on the court.

      If Amar’e grabbed rebounds out of Jason Kidd’s hands I’m sure he could tack a few on to his total, but who cares?

    26. Frank O.

      look, you all can harp on the D. that’s fine. Perhaps my eyeball test doesn’t hold up to the analysis, but this also is what my eyeballs and analysis tell me.
      This year Lee earns $12.7 million
      This year Amare earns $20 million

      Next year Lee earns $13.8 m
      Next year Amare earns $21.7 m

      in 2014-2015 Lee earns $15 m
      In 2014-2015 Amare earns $23.4 m.

      Amare isn’t worth $24.6 million more over three years than Lee.
      My foundational argument still stands. In hindsight, and looking forward, it is hard to say that deal worked out well for the Knicks.

      That extra money would have done wonders in the back court.

    27. flossy

      Frank O.: That extra money would have done wonders in the back court.

      Not really. If you swap Amar’e for Lee we are still over the cap this year and next.

    28. Owen

      There is a lot of discussion about that study. I don’t think its conclusions are cut and dried yet by any means. There are aspects to Lee’s defense that are horrible, no doubt. But a lot of people think the opinion has swung too far to the extreme and that he actually is playing pretty solid post defense these days.

      And quite honestly, I think the defense is close to a wash between Lee and Amare. And Carmelo for that matter when he is playing the four.

      I don’t think Lee is any kind of budding superstar like I used to back in, what 07? But back then, I argued for locking Lee up to a long term low cost deal. 13 million is no bargain. But we could have had him much much cheaper.

      Also, Carmelo plays little or no defense at power forward either. Part of Lee’s problem is being asked to play center for basically most of his career, simply because his teams had no one else to do so. He isn’t a center. He has literally never played next to any kind of interior defender I can think of.

      There I go, making excuses for my man DLee. We all have our favorites.

      Frank O.: interesting read. I’ve watched him play quite a bit this year and my impression was different. I don’t have data, obviously. But watching his on-ball defense, there wasn’t the tell tale matador D that we once watched Lee exhibit in NYC.
      And while he’s never been a shot blocker or a steal machine, he gets 8 D boards a game, which is not to be ignored.

    29. Frank O.

      flossy: Not really.If you swap Amar’e for Lee we are still over the cap this year and next.

      In the ‘what if’ category, as I noted early, if they don’t get Amare, they don’t have Melo. Cap problem solved. You may not have gotten Tyson without Melo either…so this could go on forever.

      Regardless, David Lee was a source of great debate on this board years ago. He is not the superstar Owen thought he would be, but he most certainly is not the weak trash some argued he was. Back then those who did not value him as much thought his numbers would fade with increased use and attention.
      as far as I can tell, he wasn’t able to continue the .600 TS% he sported in his first few relatively low usage years, but he has broadened his game beyond garbage points and rebounds. He’s now got a very good offensive game, his boards are considerable, and he’s a very good passer.
      He’s stood the test of time, and probably as expected he fell strongly in between the extreme arguments on the board. and if ever he played in his position as PF, he might surprise folks with his D.

    30. ruruland

      Owen:
      There is a lot of discussion about that study. I don’t think its conclusions are cut and dried yet by any means. There are aspects to Lee’s defense that are horrible, no doubt. But a lot of people think the opinion has swung too far to the extreme and that he actually is playing pretty solid post defense these days.

      And quite honestly, I think the defense is close to a wash between Lee and Amare. And Carmelo for that matter when he is playing the four.

      I don’t think Lee is any kind of budding superstar like I used to back in, what 07? But back then, I argued for locking Lee up to a long term low cost deal. 13 million is no bargain. But we could have had him much much cheaper.

      Also, Carmelo plays little or no defense at power forward either. Part of Lee’s problem is being asked to play center for basically most of his career, simply because his teams had no one else to do so. He isn’t a center. He has literally never played next to any kind of interior defender I can think of.

      There I go, making excuses for my man DLee. We all have our favorites.

      Melo is actually among the best defenders against post-ups in the league, which is why helping him with doubles is so stupid.

      He’s not a good help defender though and should be playing small forward.

      But who cares about any of this? The season ended again last night.

    31. ruruland

      Hubert Davis: I can’t deal with the inevitable media referendum on the melo trade.Hopefully it won’t happen here.I’m too depressed.

      Like it won’t happen here. April and May are going to be so much fun though. Too bad Owen and friends won’t be around for it until the end.

    32. johnlocke

      Agreed. I’m getting tired of the Melo at the 4 is some kind of revolutionary brilliant idea. didn’t the guy pay himself into a massive contract at the three. Whether he can guard the post or not is irrelevant seeing that 8/10 Woodson or the team decides to double the post, usually on Melo’s man.

      ruruland: Melo is actually among the best defenders against post-ups in the league, which is why helping him with doubles is so stupid.

      He’s not a good help defender though and should be playing small forward.

      But who cares about any of this? The season ended again last night.

    33. jon abbey

      in the “what if” department, nothing matters after we didn’t get LeBron. nothing.

      ” April and May are going to be so much fun though. ”

      I have had both optimistic and pessimistic phases on this team, but if this was a message board, I would sig quote this for the rest of the season, because that’s how wrong I think it is. this team isn’t beating anyone in a playoff series, maybe ATL if we somehow drew them which we won’t.

      meanwhile sounds like Melo will sit out tomorrow, I will be stunned if we win a game on this trip.

    34. Zanzibar

      meanwhile sounds like Melo will sit out tomorrow

      How do you know this? Did you witness white smoke emanating out of the MSG chimney?

      And thinking about Bob’s comment on putting Melo back in the game: “It’s a dumb, reckless, shortsighted, dunderheaded, pointless, ignorant, insane risk.”

      MARCH MADNESS??

    35. ruruland

      Robtachi:
      This is one of those times in Knick fandom when you can sense a season on the brink of going down the toilet.We’ll see what happens…

      Just an observation. Someone’s intimated this almost every week.

    36. ruruland

      johnlocke:
      Agreed. I’m getting tired of the Melo at the 4 is some kind of revolutionary brilliant idea. didn’t the guy pay himself into a massive contract at the three. Whether he can guard the post or not is irrelevant seeing that 8/10 Woodson or the team decides to double the post, usually on Melo’s man.

      Melo’s been more efficient scoring at the 3 than he’s been at 4.

      That’s been the case for months.

      Martin is the second most versatile defender on the team, and guards guards and wings better than most of the guards.

      just start him already and PLAY CAMBY.

    37. nicos

      Owen:

      I don’t think Lee is any kind of budding superstar like I used to back in, what 07? But back then, I argued for locking Lee up to a long term low cost deal. 13 million is no bargain. But we could have had him much much cheaper.

      Even if we had signed him to a three year 24m extension or 4/32m which was I think was doable he still probably would have been dealt to make cap space to attract LBJ + one. Might we have gotten more than Anthony Randolph + filler if he was on a more desirable contract? Probably, but plenty of people on this board (me included) thought that was a pretty intriguing deal- a young cheap guy with real potential, another cheap expiring deal that if healthy could help in Azubuke, and Turiaf who was a decent back-up with a movable contract. And you would have run the risk- if he had taken a step back in 2008 instead of making another step forward- to having to make another poison deal like the Jeffries deal to clear space. All in all I think Walsh played it about as well as he could. Hindsight being 20/20, Lee at 8m-10m a year looks great. Lee at 13-15 is considerably less enticing.

    38. ruruland

      No one knows. That’s why it’s scary. He needs to get other opinions. He doesn’t want to let teammates down. I don’t think he’d be playing if Amar’e was healthy.

    39. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      ruruland: He doesn’t want to let teammates down. I don’t think he’d be playing if Amar’e was healthy.

      He was an hero, that’s for sure.

    40. d-mar

      Well, not much for Knicks fans to be happy about these days, but Boston getting blown out by the Bobcats is pretty damn sweet.

    41. BigBlueAL

      What I dont get is Melo saying draining his knee is a final option because if that happens he doesnt know how long he will be out. Someone mentioned that both Wade and Kobe have had their knees drained during the playoffs and didnt have to miss a game. Im pretty sure Ive read about other athletes having to drain their knees and only being out a few days at most. I always thought that just draining a knee from fluid is not that big a deal at all.

      Of course both Wade and Kobe both needed minor knee surgery after the season when their knees were drained but at least for the remainder of the season if Melo gets his knee drained he should be able to play w/o much problems. Unless of course there is a much more serious issue behind this which is probably the case unfortunately.

    42. jon abbey

      Zanzibar: How do you know this? Did you witness white smoke emanating out of the MSG chimney?

      heh, kind of, one of the pieces made it sound like he might not play back to backs, at least the two this week.

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