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Knicks Morning News (Tuesday, Jan 31 2012)

  • [New York Daily News] Melo: Knicks support D’Antoni (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:13:35 GMT)
    Just ask Mike D’Antoni admitted that he is feeling some heat as his team spins out of control, the embattled Knicks’ coach got some support from Carmelo Anthony.

  • [New York Times] Knicks Hoping Anthony Can Spark a Turnabout (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:48:06 GMT)
    As they approach the one-third mark of the season, the Knicks, who have lost nine of their last 10 games, are uncomfortably situated in 10th place in the Eastern Conference.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: 76ers 3rd Win in Row Is Magic’s 4th Straight Loss (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:48:06 GMT)
    Andre Iguodala had 14 points and 11 rebounds to lead Philadelphia over slumping Orlando.

  • [New York Times] Griffin Dunk Highlights Clippers Win Over Thunder (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:02:18 GMT)
    Blake Griffin delivered the dunk of the season on a rim-rattling slam over Kendrick Perkins to highlight the Los Angeles Clippers’ 112-100 home victory over the NBA-leading Oklahoma City Thunder on Monday.

  • [New York Times] Paul Leads Clippers Past NBA-Leading Thunder (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:43:10 GMT)
    Blake Griffin’s jaw-dropping one-handed jam over Kendrick Perkins sent Los Angeles Clippers fans into a frenzy, fired up his teammates, lit up the Twitterverse and burned the Oklahoma City Thunder.

  • [New York Times] Millsap Scores 19 as Jazz Rally Past Blazers 93-89 (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:10:23 GMT)
    Gordon Hayward certainly could have been the goat Monday night after moving over to shooting guard for the Utah Jazz and tossing up nothing but bricks early.

  • [New York Times] Carter, West Lead Dallas Rout of Nash-Less Suns (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:54:58 GMT)
    Vince Carter scored 21 points against a Phoenix team that’s still paying him, helping the Dallas Mavericks to a 122-99 rout of the Steve Nash-less Suns on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Adelman Wins Return to Houston (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:54:58 GMT)
    Rick Adelman has mostly good memories from his years in Houston, and he added one more on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Jennings Leads Bucks to 103-82 Win Over Pistons (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:05:01 GMT)
    Brandon Jennings had 21 points, reserve Mike Dunleavy added a season-high 20 on 8-of-10 shooting and the Milwaukee Bucks rolled to a 103-82 victory over the skidding Detroit Pistons on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Hand Grizzlies 4th Straight Loss, 83-73 (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:58:08 GMT)
    Matt Bonner scored 15 points, going 5 of 9 from outside the arc, and Tim Duncan added 14 points as the San Antonio Spurs sent Memphis to its fourth straight loss with an 83-73 victory over the Grizzlies on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Heat Shake Off Slow Start, Beat Hornets 109-95 (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:13:16 GMT)
    LeBron James and Dwyane Wade each scored 22 points, Mike Miller added 14 off the bench and the Miami Heat shook off a slow start to run away from the New Orleans Hornets 109-95 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Iguodala Shines in 76ers’ 74-69 Win Over Magic (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:54:59 GMT)
    Andre Iguodala had 14 points and 11 rebounds to lead the surprising Philadelphia 76ers to their third straight win, 74-69 over the Orlando Magic on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Rose Scores 35 to Lead Bulls Over Wizards 98-88 (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:43:04 GMT)
    Derrick Rose scored a season-high 35 points, Carlos Boozer had 18 and Kyle Korver added 17 to lead the Chicago Bulls to a 98-88 win over the Washington Wizards on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: In the Spurs, a Model of How to Play (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:08:49 GMT)
    Coach Gregg Popovich of the San Antonio Spurs walks his own path but still provides an example for other teams to follow.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Home Court Advantage or Burden for the Underachieving Knicks? (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:44:23 GMT)
    The Knicks’ usual home-court advantage has become a cauldron of pressure this season.

  • [New York Post] Melo’s stand on D’Antoni: I like Mike (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:16:27 -0500)
    With the Knicks an underachieving and underwhelming 7-13 coming into tonight’s game against the Pistons, it’s no shock Mike D’Antoni’s job security is being questioned. Even D’Antoni admitted himself with gallows humor that it’s cause for concern. But Carmelo Anthony backed his coach, and…

  • [New York Post] Knicks Anthony, Davis hurting (Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:14:58 -0500)
    The Knicks got a double dose of bad injury news yesterday with Carmelo Anthony and Baron Davis sitting out practice, and both listed as doubtful for tonight’s game against the Pistons at the Garden.
    Davis missing his first practice opportunity in a week is concerning, despite coach Mike D…

  • 29 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Tuesday, Jan 31 2012)

    1. Nick C.

      I don’t think I’ve seen any Knick dive at an angle like that this year. If they can’t see Chadler with three feet of space around him pointing upward I doubt TD or Shump or anyone on the court would have noticed Griffin, figure out how the type of pass to make to get in there, been able to make it and in stride…
      We would have seen Blake diving in to crash the boards for the putback of the missed shot on that sequence with the NYK guards.

    2. Degree_Absolute

      So Shump is no longer the starting PG. Is D’Antoni gonna play him at PG off the bench or are they just moving him to the wing? If they are moving him to the wing, does this mean that Lin is finally getting legit PT as the backup PG?

    3. Bruno Almeida

      Degree_Absolute:
      So Shump is no longer the starting PG.Is D’Antoni gonna play him at PG off the bench or are they just moving him to the wing?If they are moving him to the wing, does this mean that Lin is finally getting legit PT as the backup PG?

      I’d hope to see more playing time for Lin, but I think the idea is to prepare Shumpert to be the sparkplug off the bench once Baron comes back, which shouldn’t take much longer.

    4. Nick C.

      @ 3 nice article. Good to read what actual intelligent basketball people have to say rather than the Marc Bermans of the world.

    5. hoolahoop

      Stop thinking things will get much better:
      1-How the f*ck do you construct a NBA team without a PG.
      2-How the f*ck do you construct an iso team for a ball movement coach.

    6. Will the Thrill

      Haha you are so insightful. What do you think we should do about this team? Give up, stop watching, stop talking about them until the corrupt owner changes his ways. How fun!

      hoolahoop:
      Stop thinking things will get much better:

    7. hoolahoop

      Repeat Notice: Baron Davis is not the savior.

      Shoot first PG that’s rusty and coming off an injury that’s going to hoist up a lot of three’s early in the shot clock.

    8. Gideon Zaga

      I think it is clear that some have lost patience, what a terrible thing to waste.

      hoolahoop:
      Stop thinking things will get much better:
      1-How the f*ck do you construct a NBA team without a PG.
      2-How the f*ck do you construct an iso team for a ball movement coach.

    9. Gideon Zaga

      I don’t know about that man, Blake’s vertical is like 100x that of amare at this point but I’m sure Boom will be able to work with both Stat and TC, heck he did fine with Blake and Deandre although Blake even at this point is better with his back to the basket than Stat, I mean why wouldn’t he do it. MELO changed and became point forward, even Dwight studied it why not StAT.

      TDM:
      That dunk was sick.I didn’t see a link in the story above so here it is:

      http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/31/video-dunk-of-the-year-blake-griffin-destroys-perkins/

      It’s a question mark as to whether STAT could have made that dunk, but there is no doubt that Toney could not have made that pass.This just shows how critical it is to have someone that can feed the post for players like STAT and the Poster Child.

    10. Gideon Zaga

      Nice Article or discussion. I really liked what Ziller said about Dantoni, dude obviously can’t convince Melo into his SSOL cult, and still hasn’t tried something else. This is a players league, the Lakers told Kobe he shoots too much and dude said OK I won’t shoot now who’s your daddy now. Even Erik Spoelstra is running a Duck ofense or whatever, you can’t keep doing the same thing if your best player is not on board. That’s what I hate about Dantoni, not enough adjustments.

      cgreene:
      This is worth a read.A Knicks roundtable from BP.

      http://basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2039

    11. Bruno Almeida

      Gideon Zaga:
      So how about the Clippers gelling huh, oh right…cue in the exccuses here. I’ll wait.

      you see, the Clippers had a HUGE change on their roster, no training camp, they have one of the absolute worst coaches in the league and the clear worst owner of the NBA…

      and yet, they are 12-6, lead the pacific division and just dominated the best team in the West…

      having real, elite superstars, and a decently constructed roster really helps, it seems.

    12. Gideon Zaga

      I just asked asked the wifey, how the Clippers are better than the Knicks, position by position, I told her I mean Melo> Butler, Amare> Blake, TC> DJ, and she stopped me right there and said they have 3 point guards and walked away. I bet no one thought point guards would matter. MINNESOTA stays stupidest of the league worse than the Knicks, they finally get Rubio who can’t even shoot and they are suddenly good. The Knicks are cursed.

    13. Juany8

      The Knick’s problem isn’t gelling, it isn’t the coach, and it isn’t our front court, it’s the fact that we have the worst players 4-9 in the league. The front office gave up every bit of depth we had to acquire one of the most talented “big 3′s” in the league, but that left the team with a bunch of bad players who wouldn’t fit or get playing time anywhere else. Toney Douglas is going to start at point guard tonight even though he’s probably been the worst player in the NBA. Mike Bibby will be his backup….. And without Melo, no one on this team can dribble or pass under pressure, so the ball will be impossible to move inside.

    14. Bruno Almeida

      Gideon Zaga:
      I just asked asked the wifey, how the Clippers are better than the Knicks, positionby position, I told her I mean Melo> Butler, Amare> Blake, TC> DJ, and she stopped me right there and said they have 3 point guards and walked away. I bet no one thought point guards would matter. MINNESOTA stays stupidest of the league worse than the Knicks, they finally get Rubio who can’t even shoot and they are suddenly good. The Knicks are cursed.

      The Spurs won a title with Avery Johnson, B.J Armstrong won 3 titles with the Bulls, Derek Fisher won 5 titles with the Lakers, the Heat won one with Jason Williams, Dallas won one with the corpse of Jason Kidd…

      If you have a good, well constructed team, you don’t need anything more than a serviceable PG who can bring up the ball, shoot a little, play some defense and that’s it.

      Now tell me, insert 1991 B.J Armstrong on this Knicks team, is it a title team? No, clearly it isn’t.

    15. Gideon Zaga

      Right, right I can’t even believe you put Avery, Kidd and Fish in the same conversation with the others, are u kidding me, how many playoff dagger or game winning threes has Fish hit, do you know who defended lebron the most in the finals, and don’t even get me started on Avery plus you forget what JJ Bareas penetration did to the Lakers. Man, point guarding or playmaking matters in this game. Remember that one of the two MJs is a big point guard with 5 rings and Kareem never won a ring until magic got drafted.

      Bruno Almeida: The Spurs won a title with Avery Johnson, B.J Armstrong won 3 titles with the Bulls, Derek Fisher won 5 titles with the Lakers, the Heat won one with Jason Williams, Dallas won one with the corpse of Jason Kidd…

      If you have a good, well constructed team, you don’t need anything more than a serviceable PG who can bring up the ball, shoot a little, play some defense and that’s it.

      Now tell me, insert 1991 B.J Armstrong on this Knicks team, is it a title team? No, clearly it isn’t.

    16. PC

      If you look at all of the good teams this year they have one thing in common – lots of good players. OKC has about 12 solid ballers; Clippers have about 9; Bulls have a ton, etc., etc.

      Knicks have 3 good basketball players and Shumpert/Fields. That’s not enough. Plain and simple.

    17. Nick C.

      @ 19 true but then again OKC starts Thabo Sefolosha 5.2 ppg 2.7 rpg 0.9 apg (9.0, 4.6, 1.5/36) and Kendrick Perkins 4.7 ppg 5.7 rpg 1.2 bpg (6.3, 7.7, 1.6). PER 11.7 and 7.1. So lots of people would say they suck. Sefolosha is redeemed by his .623 TSP .481 3pt% Perkins, considering he is a C, not so much with his .541. Well looking at everything there I’m not sure I didn’t prove myself wrong, but thats two limited offensive players getting 21 and 26 mpg and starting. Ibaka is 10.3 p/36, 9.3 r/36 3.3 b/36 or 7.5, 6.7, 2.4/g. So he is a bit more lively but has a .524 TSP but 15.5 PER. WS/48 and .123 for Ibaka, .126 for Sefolosha and .034 for Perkins and .069 for Nazr Mohammed his backup. (admission Harden plays 30 mpg and has a .252 WS/48 better even than Durant @ .222). Depending on how you define good a lot of people might argue that its a few great once a couple above average (Collison, Westbrook). Sorry for the stream of consciousness post that in the end goes nowhere.

    18. Bruno Almeida

      Gideon Zaga:
      Right, right I can’t even believe you put Avery, Kidd and Fish in the same conversation with the others, are u kidding me, how many playoff dagger or game winning threes has Fish hit, do you know who defended lebron the most in the finals, and don’t even get me started on Avery plus you forget what JJ Bareas penetration did to the Lakers. Man, point guarding or playmaking matters in this game. Remember that one of the two MJs is a big point guard with 5 rings and Kareem never won a ring until magic got drafted.

      I’m just pointing that you don’t need a really good PG to win a title, just an adequate one, and those guys are nothing more than adequate PGs (on Kidd’s case I’m obviously referring just to last year, not his entire career)

      Obviously, there are superb PGs who change everything, the Magic Johnsons, Isiah Thomas and so on, but you don’t need one of those if you have a good team.

      My point is, we suck because we are a terrible team, not because we don’t have a good PG.

    19. TDM

      Bruno Almeida: I’m just pointing that you don’t need a really good PG to win a title, just an adequate one, and those guys are nothing more than adequate PGs (on Kidd’s case I’m obviously referring just to last year, not his entire career)Obviously, there are superb PGs who change everything, the Magic Johnsons, Isiah Thomas and so on, but you don’t need one of those if you have a good team.My point is, we suck because we are a terrible team, not because we don’t have a good PG.

      I disagree. We suck because of injuries, but mostly because we don’t have a good point guard … or an adequate one.

    20. Gideon Zaga

      On a side note, does anybody have any idea on how to fix the Wizards, their woes are smilare to the Knicks plus they are the home grown team you guys like to root for not Dolan’s fringe experiment

    21. TDM

      Gideon Zaga: On a side note, does anybody have any idea on how to fix the Wizards, their woes are smilare to the Knicks plus they are the home grown team you guys like to root for not Dolan’s fringe experiment

      Straight up trade of Kyrie for Toney would do wonders for both rosters. Man alive, this GM stuff is easy business!

    22. Degree_Absolute

      Lin-lovers rejoice!!
      ——————————
      D’Antoni liked what he saw from third-string PG Jeremy Lin on Saturday night in Houston. He may give the former Harvard standout more minutes on Tuesday against Detroit.

      “He shows he can run a pick and roll and he’s got some instincts of a point guard and maybe we’ll look at that a little bit more and see where we’re going because that’s what we need,” the coach said.
      ——————————

      http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/10503/dantoni-davis-probably-wont-play-this-week

    23. Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)

      “He shows he can run a pick and roll and he’s got some instincts of a point guard and maybe we’ll look at that a little bit more and see where we’re going because that’s what we need,” the coach said.

      What a quote that is!

      “He actually looks like he can run basic point guard plays, which is a huge improvement over our current point guards.”

    24. Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)

      Man, early on I thought I’d rather see Lin out there than Bibby, if only because Lin might have upside while Bibby has none. I can’t believe I’m at the point where I’d now prefer Lin to both point guard options (all three options, if you include Shump as a point guard)!

    25. Gideon Zaga

      And it took him this long to figure it out, seriously why shouldnt he be fired again?? Our coach just keeps surprising me every single day.

    26. Degree_Absolute

      Gideon Zaga:
      And it took him this long to figure it out, seriously why shouldnt he be fired again?? Our coach just keeps surprising me every single day.

      I have trouble criticizing a coach for showing faith in his players. TD was not this inept last season and I think Mike is realizing that he is not right physically.

      D’Antoni is a polarizing figure, no doubt. You either love him or hate him. If he plays Lin too early we would have heard acrimony about giving a Harvard scrub who was already cut by two teams this year unwarranted playing time because Mike loves to tinker/is a bad communicator is sending messages ala Larry Hughes/some other random BS.

      Comments like this are the other side of that.

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