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		<title>By: The Honorable Cock Jowles</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-morning-news-tuesday-dec-18-2012/#comment-412836</link>
		<dc:creator>The Honorable Cock Jowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-412831&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-412831&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;iserp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Begging for attention, uh?


When are you going to address that PER (a shitty stat that i consider is good enough to compare players that play the same position with somewhat similar skillsets) tells us that James Harden is the same player that was last year and Kevin Martin is the same player than last year meanwhile WP48 (The stat that correlates really well with winning) tells us that James Harden soul took over Kevin Martin’s body?


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Who gives a shit about PER? And who cares that Martin is +.040 or so in WP48? It&#039;s been twenty games and Harden is shooting 59% TS on 22 FGA/48. Gloat at the end of the year, big guy.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-412831" rel="nofollow">iserp</a></strong>: Begging for attention, uh?</p>
<p>When are you going to address that PER (a shitty stat that i consider is good enough to compare players that play the same position with somewhat similar skillsets) tells us that James Harden is the same player that was last year and Kevin Martin is the same player than last year meanwhile WP48 (The stat that correlates really well with winning) tells us that James Harden soul took over Kevin Martin’s body?</p>
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<p>Who gives a shit about PER? And who cares that Martin is +.040 or so in WP48? It&#8217;s been twenty games and Harden is shooting 59% TS on 22 FGA/48. Gloat at the end of the year, big guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Juany8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juany8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-412825&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;massive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Why choose to call WP/48 an intellectually pathetic all-in-one model but choose to place faith in WS/48?


And WP/48 also likes Carmelo Anthony once you adjust his numbers for a SF (.156 as a SF, .121 as an F). I will keep stating that I do not believe the Knicks have played with a power forward yet this season. They’re going with 3 guards, a small forward, and a center.


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I don&#039;t like WS either but I was countering the fact that no stat thought Melo was a star this season. The better thing is, Pelton has come out and admitted that Melo is better than WS gives him credit for! He calculated that once you took into account how much Melo improved his teammates efficiency, he was the all star everyone claimed him to be, before he started shooting 45% from 3. The guy that runs wins shares did a study that showed his stat didn&#039;t evaluate a player like Melo as well as it could. I&#039;ll respect that a lot more than a guy like Berri who refuses to even consider that the entire baskeball network of knowledge might know a bit more than him. 

So WS isn&#039;t that good a stat, but Pelton can come out and admit that, while still using it as a nice base for starting a discussion. Neither WP or WS correlates well with future wins, that&#039;s a total myth, so if people are going to bring up one as indisputable proof that one player is bad, I don&#039;t see why the other is less valid. Especially since WS never said Landry Fields was a top 10 player (note, Fields was better last year than Melo has been this year according to WP, but not even close according to WS)]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-412825" rel="nofollow">massive</a></strong>: Why choose to call WP/48 an intellectually pathetic all-in-one model but choose to place faith in WS/48?</p>
<p>And WP/48 also likes Carmelo Anthony once you adjust his numbers for a SF (.156 as a SF, .121 as an F). I will keep stating that I do not believe the Knicks have played with a power forward yet this season. They’re going with 3 guards, a small forward, and a center.</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t like WS either but I was countering the fact that no stat thought Melo was a star this season. The better thing is, Pelton has come out and admitted that Melo is better than WS gives him credit for! He calculated that once you took into account how much Melo improved his teammates efficiency, he was the all star everyone claimed him to be, before he started shooting 45% from 3. The guy that runs wins shares did a study that showed his stat didn&#8217;t evaluate a player like Melo as well as it could. I&#8217;ll respect that a lot more than a guy like Berri who refuses to even consider that the entire baskeball network of knowledge might know a bit more than him. </p>
<p>So WS isn&#8217;t that good a stat, but Pelton can come out and admit that, while still using it as a nice base for starting a discussion. Neither WP or WS correlates well with future wins, that&#8217;s a total myth, so if people are going to bring up one as indisputable proof that one player is bad, I don&#8217;t see why the other is less valid. Especially since WS never said Landry Fields was a top 10 player (note, Fields was better last year than Melo has been this year according to WP, but not even close according to WS)</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW, Z, Thomas B. waxed poetic on how boring it is to be a fan of a good team a few games back. Funny stuff.

Is Ted Nelson the next to resurface?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Z, Thomas B. waxed poetic on how boring it is to be a fan of a good team a few games back. Funny stuff.</p>
<p>Is Ted Nelson the next to resurface?</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Z,
Totally repect your response and your choice re: Knicks. I do admit to missing the sardonic wittiness of your posts. What&#039;s ironic is that you were here as a regular contributer during the darkest years, and now that the team has finally gotten over the hump, it does nothing for you. Maybe when the playoff juices start flowing it will do something for you. Hope you still check in from time to time.

PS I was never a &quot;let Lin go&quot; guy before they let him go, more like a &quot;it&#039;s not so bad&quot; and &quot;it doen&#039;t make Dolan stupid in and of itself&quot; and &quot;each deal should be judged on its own merits&quot; and &quot;Felton might be a good or better for this particular team and at aq great price&quot; guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z,<br />
Totally repect your response and your choice re: Knicks. I do admit to missing the sardonic wittiness of your posts. What&#8217;s ironic is that you were here as a regular contributer during the darkest years, and now that the team has finally gotten over the hump, it does nothing for you. Maybe when the playoff juices start flowing it will do something for you. Hope you still check in from time to time.</p>
<p>PS I was never a &#8220;let Lin go&#8221; guy before they let him go, more like a &#8220;it&#8217;s not so bad&#8221; and &#8220;it doen&#8217;t make Dolan stupid in and of itself&#8221; and &#8220;each deal should be judged on its own merits&#8221; and &#8220;Felton might be a good or better for this particular team and at aq great price&#8221; guy.</p>
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		<title>By: iserp</title>
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		<dc:creator>iserp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 10:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-412739&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-412739&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: hardan wa s rly good last nite but i think he not much a upgrade ovar shumpart, i mena

can he make not 1 but TWO turnovars bnext to 1 anothar on teh legend D_WADE?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Begging for attention, uh?

When are you going to address that PER (a shitty stat that i consider is good enough to compare players that play the same position with somewhat similar skillsets) tells us that James Harden is the same player that was last year and Kevin Martin is the same player than last year meanwhile WP48 (The stat that correlates really well with winning) tells us that James Harden soul took over Kevin Martin&#039;s body?]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-412739" rel="nofollow">The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles</a></strong>: hardan wa s rly good last nite but i think he not much a upgrade ovar shumpart, i mena</p>
<p>can he make not 1 but TWO turnovars bnext to 1 anothar on teh legend D_WADE?</p></blockquote>
<p>Begging for attention, uh?</p>
<p>When are you going to address that PER (a shitty stat that i consider is good enough to compare players that play the same position with somewhat similar skillsets) tells us that James Harden is the same player that was last year and Kevin Martin is the same player than last year meanwhile WP48 (The stat that correlates really well with winning) tells us that James Harden soul took over Kevin Martin&#8217;s body?</p>
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		<title>By: yellowboy90</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-412828&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JC&#032;Knickfan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Diminishing law of returns.
Felton career high FGA = career low TS%.


I do agree with some bloggers that driving layup pulling in 2nd defender to block the shot will create high % O-rebounds, but some people refuse to acknowledge Felton poor shot choices.He shoots long 2?s way too much to be efficient. 


Even with Melo back, I think I would like to see Copeland start (Brewer sit) and take away some of Felton FGA. Copeland was 42-91 3?s in one stint in D-league, but that was back in 2007. He is 6-13 this year, but sample size too small.The jury is still out if he can be another deep threat. He’s not know for defense hopefully Woodson can instill defensive discipline.


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 What sucks is that the long two&#039;s are his best shot % wise.
Also copeland plays no defense and doesn&#039;t look quick enough to stay with 3s or big and strong enough to hold up against 4s.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-412828" rel="nofollow">JC&#032;Knickfan</a></strong>:<br />
Diminishing law of returns.<br />
Felton career high FGA = career low TS%.</p>
<p>I do agree with some bloggers that driving layup pulling in 2nd defender to block the shot will create high % O-rebounds, but some people refuse to acknowledge Felton poor shot choices.He shoots long 2?s way too much to be efficient. </p>
<p>Even with Melo back, I think I would like to see Copeland start (Brewer sit) and take away some of Felton FGA. Copeland was 42-91 3?s in one stint in D-league, but that was back in 2007. He is 6-13 this year, but sample size too small.The jury is still out if he can be another deep threat. He’s not know for defense hopefully Woodson can instill defensive discipline.</p>
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<p> What sucks is that the long two&#8217;s are his best shot % wise.<br />
Also copeland plays no defense and doesn&#8217;t look quick enough to stay with 3s or big and strong enough to hold up against 4s.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Z! Don&#039;t be a stranger....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z! Don&#8217;t be a stranger&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JC Knickfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC Knickfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Diminishing law of returns.
Felton career high FGA = career low TS%.

I do agree with some bloggers that driving layup pulling in 2nd defender to block the shot will create high % O-rebounds, but some people refuse to acknowledge Felton poor shot choices.    He shoots long 2&#039;s way too much to be efficient.   

Even with Melo back, I think I would like to see Copeland start (Brewer sit) and take away some of Felton FGA.   Copeland was 42-91 3&#039;s in one stint in D-league, but that was back in 2007.   He is 6-13 this year, but sample size too small.  The jury is still out if he can be another deep threat.   He&#039;s not know for defense hopefully Woodson can instill defensive discipline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diminishing law of returns.<br />
Felton career high FGA = career low TS%.</p>
<p>I do agree with some bloggers that driving layup pulling in 2nd defender to block the shot will create high % O-rebounds, but some people refuse to acknowledge Felton poor shot choices.    He shoots long 2&#8242;s way too much to be efficient.   </p>
<p>Even with Melo back, I think I would like to see Copeland start (Brewer sit) and take away some of Felton FGA.   Copeland was 42-91 3&#8242;s in one stint in D-league, but that was back in 2007.   He is 6-13 this year, but sample size too small.  The jury is still out if he can be another deep threat.   He&#8217;s not know for defense hopefully Woodson can instill defensive discipline.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-412815&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-412815&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Z&#045;man&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: So, fellow Zeddite, why not just admit you overreacted and come back to the fold?

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I&#039;m happy the Knicks are doing well. Their long suffering fans deserve it. I remember you leading the &quot;let Lin go&quot; brigade, and it looks like it&#039;s turned out pretty good for you and the team so far, so nicely done (what I always loved about this blog was that I was surrounded by people a lot smarter than me :)

And I would admit to overreacting and jump back on the bandwagon, except that I still really don&#039;t want to be on the bandwagon. I&#039;ve enjoyed my time off. And looking at the standings this morning for the 1st time and seeing the Knicks on top did nothing for me (except think of my old friends at KB, of course!).

So, until I feel that empty void deep inside of me start to grumble and growl, I&#039;ll just leave it to you guys to enjoy the team&#039;s success while I remain in self-imposed exile. 

(I really do miss this blog, though. I&#039;d love to stay and hang out for a while, but I&#039;d have to ask Mike to change the name to just &quot;Blogger&quot;, cause I have nothing to say about the Knickers anymore.)


&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-412803&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-412803&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;i&gt;slurp slurp slurp&lt;/i&gt;

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(THCJ-- it looks like the past few months have taken a toll on your health. Come detox with me in CA! Like me, you&#039;ve been holding onto something here that doesn&#039;t seem to bring you much pleasure. I&#039;ll help you past the shakes and the shivers. When we&#039;re done, Carmelo Anthony, Ray Felton, and Ruruland will be nothing but foggy, dull memories :)]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-412815" rel="nofollow">Z&#045;man</a></strong>: So, fellow Zeddite, why not just admit you overreacted and come back to the fold?</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m happy the Knicks are doing well. Their long suffering fans deserve it. I remember you leading the &#8220;let Lin go&#8221; brigade, and it looks like it&#8217;s turned out pretty good for you and the team so far, so nicely done (what I always loved about this blog was that I was surrounded by people a lot smarter than me :)</p>
<p>And I would admit to overreacting and jump back on the bandwagon, except that I still really don&#8217;t want to be on the bandwagon. I&#8217;ve enjoyed my time off. And looking at the standings this morning for the 1st time and seeing the Knicks on top did nothing for me (except think of my old friends at KB, of course!).</p>
<p>So, until I feel that empty void deep inside of me start to grumble and growl, I&#8217;ll just leave it to you guys to enjoy the team&#8217;s success while I remain in self-imposed exile. </p>
<p>(I really do miss this blog, though. I&#8217;d love to stay and hang out for a while, but I&#8217;d have to ask Mike to change the name to just &#8220;Blogger&#8221;, cause I have nothing to say about the Knickers anymore.)</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-412803" rel="nofollow">The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles</a></strong>: <i>slurp slurp slurp</i></p>
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<p>(THCJ&#8211; it looks like the past few months have taken a toll on your health. Come detox with me in CA! Like me, you&#8217;ve been holding onto something here that doesn&#8217;t seem to bring you much pleasure. I&#8217;ll help you past the shakes and the shivers. When we&#8217;re done, Carmelo Anthony, Ray Felton, and Ruruland will be nothing but foggy, dull memories :)</p>
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		<title>By: massive</title>
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		<dc:creator>massive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe the Knicks are playing power forward because he&#039;s still playing the same way as always except he&#039;s been playing more perimeter basketball this season (not compromising the spacing like he did to get MDA fired). I don&#039;t think it&#039;s fair to label him a power forward because he&#039;s the 2nd tallest guy in the starting 5 when nothing about his game (rebounds, post ups) suggests he&#039;s a power forward. He&#039;s a face-up, isolation 3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe the Knicks are playing power forward because he&#8217;s still playing the same way as always except he&#8217;s been playing more perimeter basketball this season (not compromising the spacing like he did to get MDA fired). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s fair to label him a power forward because he&#8217;s the 2nd tallest guy in the starting 5 when nothing about his game (rebounds, post ups) suggests he&#8217;s a power forward. He&#8217;s a face-up, isolation 3.</p>
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