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Knicks Morning News (Tuesday, Apr 16 2013)

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Rally for 103-97 Win Over Mavericks (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:50:33 GMT)
    Thanks to Keyon Dooling and the rest of the Memphis bench, the Grizzlies still have a chance to earn one of the top four records in the Western Conference, though that won’t be good enough to keep them at home for the first round of the playoffs.    

  • [New York Times] Suns Snap Record Home Skid With Win Over Rockets (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:20:31 GMT)
    Luis Scola had 26 points and 15 rebounds, Goran Dragic added 21 points and 14 assists and Phoenix snapped a franchise-record seven-game home losing streak with a 119-112 victory over the Houston Rockets on Monday night in the Suns’ final home game of the season.    

  • [New York Times] Curry Leads Warriors Past Spurs, 116-106 (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:06:26 GMT)
    Stephen Curry made seven 3-pointers to finish with 35 points, leading the Golden State Warriors past the severely short-handed San Antonio Spurs 116-106 on Monday night.    

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Sports: Boston Games Are Off (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:17:24 GMT)
    The N.H.L. postponed Monday’s Ottawa Senators-Boston Bruins game in Boston in the aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombings. The Celtics game on Tuesday against the Pacers was canceled.    

  • [New York Times] LeBron Sits as Heat Down Cavs 96-95 (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:12:09 GMT)
    LeBron James warmed up, got dressed and grabbed a seat.    

  • [New York Times] LeBron Sits as Heat Down Cavs 96-95 (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:09:10 GMT)
    LeBron James watched from the bench in street clothes as Norris Cole stripped Kyrie Irving of the ball with 2.2 seconds left to give the Miami Heat, resting most of their top players for the playoffs, a 96-95 win over the Cleveland Cavaliers on Monday night.    

  • [New York Times] Thunder Clinch West’s Top Seed, Beat Kings 104-95 (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:09:10 GMT)
    The Oklahoma City Thunder couldn’t coast to the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference playoffs.    

  • [New York Times] Bobcats 106, Knicks 95: Sore Foot Shortens Wallace’s Return to Knicks (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 03:23:58 GMT)
    Rasheed Wallace, out since December with a broken left foot, played less than four minutes in a mostly meaningless loss to the Charlotte Bobcats.    

  • [New York Times] Nuggets Top Bucks 112-111, Get Homecourt in Rd 1 (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 03:03:06 GMT)
    Ty Lawson scored 26 points, including a jumper in the lane with 9.3 seconds left, and the Denver Nuggets clinched home-court advantage in the first round of the playoffs with a 112-111 victory over the Milwaukee Bucks on Monday night.    

  • [New York Times] Nets 106, Wizards 101: Nets Top Wizards as Humphries and Blatche Each Score 20 (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 02:52:11 GMT)
    The Nets outlasted the Wizards in a game that playd out like a final N.F.L. preseason game in which the outcome made no difference. They won without five key starters.    

  • [New York Times] Blatche Leads Brooklyn Bench Over Wizards, 106-101 (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 02:36:07 GMT)
    Andray Blatche led a bevy of Brooklyn bench players with 20 points and 11 rebounds the Nets erased an early 17 point deficit to beat the Washington Wizards 106-101 on Monday night.    

  • [New York Times] Jazz Beat Wolves to Keep Playoff Hopes Alive (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 02:27:13 GMT)
    Al Jefferson had 22 points and eight rebounds to help Utah keep its playoff hopes alive with a 96-80 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Monday night.    

  • [New York Times] Pistons Win Home Finale, 109-101 Over 76ers (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 02:18:15 GMT)
    Greg Monroe had 27 points and 16 rebounds, and the Detroit Pistons made the most of their home finale by beating the Philadelphia 76ers 109-101 on Monday night.    

  • [New York Times] Bulls Snap 2-Game Skid, Run by Magic 102-84 (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 02:18:12 GMT)
    Carlos Boozer scored 22 points, Luol Deng added 18 and the Chicago Bulls snapped a two-game losing streak with a 102-84 victory over the Orlando Magic on Monday night.    

  • [New York Times] Henderson, Walker Lead Bobcats Over Knicks 106-95 (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:59:56 GMT)
    Gerald Henderson scored 27 points, Kemba Walker had 23 points and a career-high 13 assists and the Charlotte Bobcats defeated a New York Knicks team playing without Carmelo Anthony and a few others 106-95 on Monday night.    

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: Donnie Walsh, Ex-Architect of Knicks, Admires Completed Work (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:24:47 GMT)
    Donnie Walsh, now the president of basketball operations for the Pacers, had envisioned a Knicks team as powerful as they are now, although overhauling the roster perhaps took longer than some might have anticipated.    

  • [New York Times] Griner No. 1 Pick by Phoenix Mercury in WNBA Draft (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:53:36 GMT)
    Brittney Griner left an indelible mark on women’s college basketball. Now she’s ready to take on the pros.    

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks’ loss to Bobcats takes backseat to Boston tragedy (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:37:56 GMT)
    The animosity between the Knicks and Boston Celtics is often palpable. There is plenty of history – and some of it nasty — in the long-time rivalry that will be renewed on Saturday when the two franchises met in the NBA Playoffs.    

  • [New York Newsday] Rasheed Wallace plays but lasts only 3:50 as Knicks fall to Bobcats (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:24:32 EDT)
    Rasheed Wallace was back in uniform and back on the court for the first time this calendar year, but he lasted less than four minutes.

  • [New York Post] Sore foot sidelines Wallace yet again (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 03:59:48 -0500)
    CHARLOTTE, N.C. â?? This was supposed to be a test run for Rasheed Wallace, a chance, according to Knicks coach Mike Woodson, “to get his feet wet a little bit.â?
    The test lasted all of four minutes, as Wallace left last night’s 106-95 loss to the Bobcats with a…

  • [New York Post] Knicks’ Novak: Boston Marathon tragedy â??just sick’ (Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:25:45 -0500)
    CHARLOTTE, N.C. â?? Like the rest of the world, the Knicks were sickened and horrified by the news of the deadly bombings in Boston yesterday.
    “It’s sickening. I have a son, a lot of people have sons,â? said Steve Novak, specifically addressing the tragedy of the 8-year-old boy who…

  • 34 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Tuesday, Apr 16 2013)

    1. Brian Cronin

      Man, having to go from this to playing a playoff series in Boston is going to be so sad and strange. How do you root against Boston at a time like this?

    2. Nick C.

      You root for the Knicks. Maybe it’s me but I think people overdo the whole sports post-tragedy. I’m a Met fan who worked downtown and the Mike Piazza home run didn’t change anything. As an aside, I was more than able to root for Arizona in that WS.

    3. Frank

      Yeah I was sort of thinking the same thing in the back of my mind. If we want to win this series we really need to take those first 2 games at home. Especially that first game in Boston is going to be very emotional for the crowd, if not the Celtics themselves.

    4. Frank

      btw I may be crazy but IMHO, anyone who thinks Copeland is not going to get a significant offer this offseason is nuts. The dude can flat out score, and is not a zero on defense like someone like Novak or even Amare. The stats he is putting up this year (and not in that small a sample anymore) are ridiculous. If you just look at basic criteria, like guys who play >10 min/game, average 19+ p/36, and shoot 40+% from 3 point range, this season there are only FIVE guys who fit that criteria:

      Lebron James
      Kevin Durant
      Stephen Curry
      Dirk Nowitzki
      Chris Copeland

      If you look all-time at non-centers who have 19+ p/36, USG>24, EFG>56, and played >10 min/game, the list is also amazingly short:

      Lebron
      Barkley
      Karl Malone
      Bernard King
      Reggie Miller
      Adrian Dantley
      Kiki Vandeweghe
      Chris Mullin
      Walter Davis
      Ray Allen
      JR Smith (!)
      Walter Berry
      Chris Copeland

      There’s going to be a lot of cap space out there this summer, and someone (probably a bad team) will at least throw 4-5MM/year on a 3-4 year deal for Cope. I’m quite glad he’s restricted because I think he’s the real deal.

    5. Hubert Davis

      Yeah, sh** just got weird. And forgive me for talking about this solely in a Knicks context. But not only to cities tend to rally around their sports teams in times like this, it also seems to mess with the heads of the players who have to play in a place that just got struck by something terrible. We all remember the fall of 2001. The post-Katrina Saints come to mind as well. This is going to be weird, that’s all I’m saying.

    6. danvt

      The world is messed up. Government stokes pro brotherhood, “we are all Boston”, propaganda to cover up the fact that they’re totally out of control of the situation. I feel bad for EVERYONE that gets blown away. Something particularly creepy about this.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/murders-shootings-and-gun-sales-per-day_n_2488664.html

      “If Americans misbehaved on Jan. 15, 2013, as they typically do, then there were 30 gun-related murders and 162 people wounded by firearms in the country, based on the most recent figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. On top of that, another 53 people kill themselves with a firearm each day, according to the CDC.”

    7. danvt

      And, on basketball, BOS AIN’T 2001 NYY. They’re spent and if we don’t take advantage of that shame on us.

    8. yellowboy90

      Frank:
      btw I may be crazy but IMHO, anyone who thinks Copeland is not going to get a significant offer this offseason is nuts.The dude can flat out score, and is not a zero on defense like someone like Novak or even Amare. The stats he is putting up this year (and not in that small a sample anymore) are ridiculous.If you just look at basic criteria, like guys who play >10 min/game, average 19+ p/36, and shoot 40+% from 3 point range, this season there are only FIVE guys who fit that criteria:

      Lebron James
      Kevin Durant
      Stephen Curry
      Dirk Nowitzki
      Chris Copeland

      If you look all-time at non-centers who have 19+ p/36, USG>24, EFG>56, and played >10 min/game, the list is also amazingly short:

      Lebron
      Barkley
      Karl Malone
      Bernard King
      Reggie Miller
      Adrian Dantley
      Kiki Vandeweghe
      Chris Mullin
      Walter Davis
      Ray Allen
      JR Smith (!)
      Walter Berry
      Chris Copeland

      There’s going to be a lot of cap space out there this summer, and someone (probably a bad team) will at least throw 4-5MM/year on a 3-4 year deal for Cope. I’m quite glad he’s restricted because I think he’s the real deal.

      Reading the article about Copeland a few days ago really makes me wonder how much he can improve with NBA trainers and S&C programs. Also, if his cerebral approach to the game combined with the all the sportsvu data and other data the team may have collected how much will he incorporate the data into helping him improve his game.

      Another thing from the article that stood out is his loyalty and his reluctance to move on to a higher level of European competition because he wanted to stay with the coach that believed in him. I still would not be upset if he went for the money at his age. This might be his first and last big pay day.

      If he can just get better handles and stronger he could be a nice 6/7th man.

    9. d-mar

      I give all the credit in the world to Cope, and he has really been a godsend to this team with all of the injuries we’ve had. But I feel like in the crucible of the playoffs vs. tough defensive teams like Boston and Indy (I know, he did well against the Pacers a few days ago, but I don’t think that was the best Indy has to offer) we may see a lot more of bad Cope – the one who lifts his pivot foot before starting his dribble, the one who tries to drive into the heart of the defense and turns it over, etc. He can hit an open 3, but so can most guys on this team (ok, maybe not Kidd)

      If Cope plays, I think his leash will be about an inch long.

    10. Hubert Davis

      danvt, not sure how well you remember the 2001 NYY, but many of those guys were spent, too. O’Neill, Tino, Knoblauch, Brosius and Justice were in their last years (excluding some “hang on for more $ years elsewhere). That’s 5/9 of a lineup. And half the rotation was El Duque (who was finished) and Clemens (who was pitching hurt/had a bad batch of PED’s).

      And they beat two AL teams who were probably more statistically superior to them than we are to Boston by scratching and clawing and getting superhuman efforts from the likes of Jeter & Mussina, typical effort from Rivera (which qualifies as superhuman), along with timely contributions from a young Soriano.

    11. Brian Cronin

      I dunno, Frank. Would I be shocked if someone signs Cope? Of course not. But when guys like Jeryd Bayless have to take $3 million, I think teams are just cheap as fuck nowadays. But sure, it is fair to say that if a team offers him even $2 million a year, he likely has to take it (although if he takes the $950,000 from the Knicks for one year, they can pay him up to $5 million the next year).

      An interesting question is this – do you use part of the mini-MLE to re-sign Cope? Hell, do you just flat out give Cope the mini-MLE?

    12. Frank

      d-mar: If Cope plays, I think his leash will be about an inch long.

      Maybe true, but his shooting ability combined with his skill on the PNR really puts stress on a defense, and against elite defenses, guys who can break a defense in multiple ways are so important. btw did you know that Copeland is the #4 roll-man in the NBA (1.37 PPP, shooting 60% overall and 52% from 3 point range off a PNR or PNP) according to Synergy? And did you know his PPP off the roll/pop is better than Kevin Durant, Lebron James, and Tyson Chandler?

      One never knows how Cope will react to playoff pressure/intensity — but it’s not like he’s a 19 year old rookie– he’s 29. maybe I’m drinking the kool aid but I think it’d be a mistake not to give him serious run against teams that like to pack the paint with their big men, and especially against Boston, who has a semi-non-threat 4 on offense in Bass.

    13. Frank

      Brian Cronin: An interesting question is this – do you use part of the mini-MLE to re-sign Cope? Hell, do you just flat out give Cope the mini-MLE?

      I don’t think that happens — Knicks have no need to use part or all of the mini-MLE to sign him because they have other exceptions at their disposal (Arenas and non-bird exception). If someone signs him to an offer sheet, they can match via Arenas rule without using their mini-MLE. If no one signs him to an offer sheet, he’ll be stuck with a 20% raise via non-bird. The only risk in not using all/some of the mini-MLE is that he can walk the next year, but given they’ll have his early bird at that point, I think it’s pretty unlikely he walks.

    14. Brian Cronin

      Oh duh, I forgot that he’s still technically a rookie. Oh, okay, then the Knicks are fine, right? No one is going to offer him more than the MLE (heck, I don’t see anyone even offering him the MLE), so he’ll be a Knick next year. Cool.

    15. Frank

      Brian Cronin: But when guys like Jeryd Bayless have to take $3 million, I think teams are just cheap as fuck nowadays.

      I think 6’2″ combo guards are probably a dime-a-dozen in the NBA so no surprise he couldn’t get more. Cope is a legit 6’9″ guy who shoot 42% from 3 point range, can put the ball on the floor, and can post it a little bit. He’s still a little raw, but the amount of improvement he’s made just in 1 season with NBA-level coaching is amazing.

      Here’s another way of looking at it. Here are 2 NBA players, both roughly the same size and play the same position:

      Player A: 19.9 p/36, TRB 8.3, TS 59, 3P% 42.6, AST% 5.7
      Player B: 17.9 p/36, TRB 8.9, TS 56.1, 3P% 37.3, AST% 11.2

      Player A is Copeland
      Player B is Danilo Gallinari, signed to what was basically a universally lauded extension at 10.5MM/year.

      I think Cope is in line for at least a mini-MLE level offer, which would be fine with me — and in fact, like you wrote, maybe it would be smart (even if he doesn’t get an offer sheet to match with Arenas) to lock him up with the mini-MLE x 3 years at 3M/y rather than spend more the following year using early-bird. In any case, for him at age 29, a mini-MLE-type contract is a life-changing contract, and I’d be so happy for him especially after reading that SBNation article.

    16. jon abbey

      Hubert Davis:
      danvt, not sure how well you remember the 2001 NYY, but many of those guys were spent, too.O’Neill, Tino, Knoblauch, Brosius and Justice were in their last years (excluding some “hang on for more $ years elsewhere).That’s 5/9 of a lineup.And half the rotation was El Duque (who was finished) and Clemens (who was pitching hurt/had a bad batch of PED’s).

      And they beat two AL teams who were probably more statistically superior to them than we are to Boston by scratching and clawing and getting superhuman efforts from the likes of Jeter & Mussina, typical effort from Rivera (which qualifies as superhuman), along with timely contributions from a young Soriano.

      the underdog wins baseball series much more than basketball series, where the better team almost always prevails. also that underdog Yankee team had won the previous three titles, so they had that to fall back on.

    17. Brian Cronin

      I think Cope is in line for at least a mini-MLE level offer, which would be fine with me — and in fact, like you wrote, maybe it would be smart (even if he doesn’t get an offer sheet to match with Arenas) to lock him up with the mini-MLE x 3 years at 3M/y rather than spend more the following year using early-bird. In any case, for him at age 29, a mini-MLE-type contract is a life-changing contract, and I’d be so happy for him especially after reading that SBNation article.

      Yeah, it could be very smart to do it that way. The key thing, though, is that he will be a Knick next year (if they want him, of course) because of the Arenas Rule (I can’t believe I didn’t remember he is still a rookie), which is awesome for us!

    18. mr.JayP

      Besides keeping cope and hopefully prigs. Who can we drop next year to add some front court depth.

      I’m fine with making a run with Ty/martin/Camby/Sheed.

      But next year we NEED reliable back up bigs. Maybe another rookie Pg instead of a flight white? Lol

    19. Frank

      Brian Cronin: Yeah, it could be very smart to do it that way. The key thing, though, is that he will be a Knick next year (if they want him, of course) because of the Arenas Rule (I can’t believe I didn’t remember he is still a rookie), which is awesome for us!

      My guess is that the mini-MLE might go to K-Mart… which I guess is ok as long as it’s just a 2 year deal (so as not to mess with our cap situation after Amare falls off it). That’ll mean we go into next season with a C/PF mix of Tyson, Amare, Melo, Camby, K-Mart, and presumably Copeland. That seems like probably enough although it’d be nice to have another true center type since Camby is so unreliable from a health standpoint.

      I think in the draft you pretty much have to go best player available, then trust Grunwald to find another gem or two in the FA pool.

    20. GHenman

      Does anyone think Sims is in our plans? I thought he almost made the team this year and he did well in the D league. I was suprised he didn’t get a look with all the injuries up front.

    21. yellowboy90

      I like going for potential IN FA with Tyler but I wouldn’t mind seeing Josh McRoberts on the Knicks. I think he would do well on a good team.

      As for a Euro prospect I would love for the Knicks to get the rights to Nick Calathes(former UF pg HS/college teammate of Chandler Parsons) to take Prigioni place. He is another pass first pg but with more size at 6’6. He recently won the Euro league MVP and last year was all defense. The only problem is I do not think he has improved his shot.

    22. d-mar

      This may sound a little cold, but I really don’t need my sports radio guys spending all of their time on news stories. I get that the Boston Marathon is a sporting event, but if I want the news, I’ll go to WCBS or WINS, if I want sports, I’ll go to ESPN or WFAN.

      I really don’t need to hear callers expressing their condolences and outrage over and over the last 2 days, nor do I need guys like Francesa and Lupica showing how they know so much more than sports.

      Sorry, just one man’s opinion.

    23. jon abbey

      d-mar:
      This may sound a little cold, but I really don’t need my sports radio guys spending all of their time on news stories. I get that the Boston Marathon is a sporting event, but if I want the news, I’ll go to WCBS or WINS, if I want sports, I’ll go to ESPN or WFAN.

      I really don’t need to hear callers expressing their condolences and outrage over and over the last 2 days, nor do I need guys like Francesa and Lupica showing how they know so much more than sports.

      Sorry, just one man’s opinion.

      normally I’d completely agree with you, but as far as TV, ESPN’s coverage last night was way better than any network. CNN was embarrassingly bad all day.

      and no one should ever spend a second listening to Francesa or Lupica talk about anything, sports or otherwise, so can’t sympathize with you there either.

    24. Frank

      KnickfaninNJ:
      What are you referring to about Q-rich

      Knicks just signed Q-Rich to fill that last roster spot. Whatever. If he sees the floor we’ve already lost.

    25. KnickfaninNJ

      OMG.

      I can’t say that Solomon looked impressive, but I agree with you about Q-rich. I did read a quote from Woodson that with Martin, Sheed, Camby and Chandler they had enough big men and would rather have a back up guard. The big men are so fragile, I am not sure I agree, but even if I did, it’s a poor argument for Richardson.

    26. Keniman Shumpwalker

      Between the Discount Triple Check, the Three to the Dome, and now the Double-Fist Head Tap, it’s going to be like watching interpretive dance on the bench after every made 3.

    27. smokinjoe

      Keniman Shumpwalker:
      Between the Discount Triple Check, the Three to the Dome, and now the Double-Fist Head Tap, it’s going to be like watching interpretive dance on the bench after every made 3.

      LOL..nice.
      That one made me chuckle

    28. smokinjoe

      Anyone have an update on the status of Sheeds foot? On another note..if ATL loses tonight..would be great for the Knicks to be have some say in helping keep away from a possible 2nd round Bulls meeting..

    29. Keniman Shumpwalker

      mcliff05:
      Dont forget JR’s one-armed windmill on bended knee

      You’re so right. What I’d really like to see is one person incorporating all 4 of those celebrations into one fluid movement. It would be pure poetry. I nominate Flight White for that. Actually, for humor’s sake, I’d like to nominate Baron Davis.

    30. BigBlueAL

      The 2001 Yankees won 95 games and were 3-time defending World Series champions. In Clemens and Mussina they had 2 of the 5 best SP’s in the AL (Moose was probably the best that season but Clemens won the Cy Young). Pettitte also had a very good season so that was a pretty good top 3 in the rotation come playoff time. Also they still had Mendoza and Stanton in the bullpen ahead of the greatest closer ever. That pitching staff was more than good enough to allow them to make a run in the postseason like they did.

      Also it helps to have Jeter and Bernie at the height of their powers in the lineup plus Posada and Tino was still pretty good (34 hr) that season. Also baseball is a sport where upsets in the playoffs happen all the time, much more frequently than in basketball.

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