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Knicks Morning News (Thursday, Nov 29 2012)

  • [New York Newsday] Wisconsin's own Steve Novak stars as Knicks roll to big win in Milwaukee (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:16:45 EST)
    The Knicks didn't wilt without Jason Kidd. They prospered.

  • [New York Newsday] Mike D'Antoni regrets leaving Phoenix for Knicks job (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:10:08 EST)
    New Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni said Wednesday in an ESPNLA.com story that he regrets leaving Steve Nash and the Phoenix Suns for the Knicks in 2008.

  • [New York Post] Reserves, Melo lead Knicks past Bucks (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 04:54:38 -0500)
    MILWAUKEE â?? As the final seconds melted away Wednesday night at Bradley Center, Carmelo Anthony shook each player’s hand on the bench. “Good bounce-back, good bounce-back,” he congratulated each of them.
    Indeed, the Knicks were a lot sharper in Brew City than Brooklyn as they recovered emphatically from Monday’s…

  • [New York Post] Knicks No. 1 in merchandise â?? sort of (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 04:30:47 -0500)
    MILWAUKEE â?? The NBA’s announcement the Knicks are No. 1 in merchandise sales in its latest study for the first time since 2004 may need a big, fat black-and-white asterisk. The figures are based on sales at the NBA store and online store from April through Thanksgiving weekend.
    Another reason…

  • [New York Post] D’Antoni said he regrets leaving Suns for Knicks (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 04:09:25 -0500)
    MILWAUKEE â?? Regrets? Mike D’Antoni has a few.
    In a candid bombshell interview, D’Antoni told ESPNLosAngeles.com he never should have left Steve Nash in Phoenix and come to New York for the Knicks’ rebuilding program.
    D’Antoni said the whole plan of breaking down the Knicks for two…

  • [New York Daily News] Melo, Novak sizzle as Knicks shoot down Bucks (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:58:12 GMT)
    Blown dunks aside, the Knicks, and in particular their bench players, were nearly flawless in Wednesday’s 102-88 win over the Milwaukee Bucks that improved their record to 10-4. Novak, who made five 3-pointers and one layup, finished with 19 points.

  • [New York Daily News] Chandler: Knicks need Kidd later, not now (Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:13:35 GMT)
    Jason Kidd’s importance to the Knicks was underscored when his teammates couldn’t score without him in overtime against Brooklyn. The Knicks simply function better with Kidd on the court.

  • 20 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Thursday, Nov 29 2012)

    1. Z-man

      Re: Raymond Felton, so far he actually measures up pretty well statistically with starting PGs around the league:

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=2013&year_max=2013&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=0&pos_is_g=Y&qual=&c1stat=ast_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=6&c2stat=per&c2comp=gt&c2val=5&c3stat=ws_per_48&c3comp=gt&c3val=-.500&c4stat=gs&c4comp=gt&c4val=5&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=efg_pct

      When sorting this list (cut-off was averaging 6 assists per game) by apg, ws/48 or eFG%, Felton winds up in the middle of the pack.

    2. Z-man

      I am impressed with the Nets. The Russion did a pretty good job of building a very rootable, gritty team. I think that Lopez is underrated and Wallace is a tough hombre; even though they might be overpaid, they will help this team fill seats. Stackhouse, Evans, Watson and Blatche make for a very solid bench, and Brooks will help as well. I like our chances against them in the playoffs, but they are a team to be reckoned with.

      Did anyone hear the “BROOK-LYN’S BETT-ER!!” chants by Milwaukee fans yesterday? They came through loud and clear on my car radio. Funny!

    3. d-mar

      I get that the Nets are a tough bunch and play hard nosed ball, but can we please stop with this whole “Brooklyn attitude” thing. Where they play has nothing to do with how they play, it’s just a concoction by the press (although I did chuckle at the Daily News headline – “Brooklyn Decker”)

    4. Unreason

      So far the Nets are much better than I expected. I also dislike them much more than I expected. I wasn’t even sure who I wanted to win when they were playing Boston. Since I could never want Boston to win anything, that was both confusing and surprising.

    5. Frank

      Unreason: A 2nd unit of Kidd, JR, Novak, Camby, and Amare might be the best in the league, no?

      I think you leave the current starting lineup intact – as multiple writers have noted, Felton/Kidd/Brewer/Melo/Chandler are absolutely killing other teams. A second unit of Prigs/JR/Novak/Amare/Rasheed or Camby might really be better than a lot of 1st units in the league. I know Rasheed has been bricking his 3s, but presumably he will start shooting somewhere close to his career rate (which still isn’t great) – which means Prigs+Amare running PNR with 3 shooters on offense, and on defense we have a good big protecting Amare.

    6. SeeWhyDee77

      I second the notion that Brooklyn’s a nice squad. I think they are a little overrated, but I will say this in their favor: rite now the proof isin the pudding. They are playing good ball rite now. Brook Lopez looks like a giant on offense..defensively not quite so much. I underestimated their roster. I still kinda think their talent doesn’t quite match the hype but they are working what they have. They could be a very dangerous squad if they find a way to curtail Wallace’s shots. I do think they are gonna be a team NOONE wants to see in the playoffs because you don’t want that backcourt catching fire with an offensive threat like Lopez down low. Now as far as the Knicks…
      I think Woody should start Sheed once Stat gets back. The 2nd unit might be a little tough because of the chemistry of Kidd and Felton starting but u gotta wonder bout Kidd starting a full season at the 2. So I’m kinda thinkin a possible starting 5 of Chandler-Sheed-Melo-Shump-Felton once everyone is healthy. And a 2nd unit of Stat-Novak-Brewer-Smith-Kidd with some Camby sprinkled in. I think Felton’s good enough that he doesn’t really need Kidd startin alongside him and Stat-Novak-Smith are far better with Kidd setting them up instead of Shump. Starting 5 will spread the floor just enough for Melo to work and set the tone defensively while that second unit outscores your bench without chemistry issues and still has enough defense to keep us in the game for stretches. Plus Sheed’s not gonna get more than 18 minutes or so a game and Kidd will probably only see 20 ish minutes with Shump back which should keep everyone fresh for the most part- especially if we can use Camby enough to give Tyson some breaks. I guess the real problem would be finding adequate rest for Melo so that he’s always at his best. Can we trust Brewer/Novak to spell him enough?

    7. Frank

      holy @$# I actually forgot about Shump. This is crazy – we will have 12 guys that actually deserve to play real minutes:

      Felton
      Kidd
      Brewer
      Melo
      Chandler

      Prigs
      JR
      Novak
      Amare
      Rasheed
      Camby
      Shump

    8. SeeWhyDee77

      Frank: I think you leave the current starting lineup intact – as multiple writers have noted, Felton/Kidd/Brewer/Melo/Chandler are absolutely killing other teams.A second unit of Prigs/JR/Novak/Amare/Rasheed or Camby might really be better than a lot of 1st units in the league. I know Rasheed has been bricking his 3s, but presumably he will start shooting somewhere close to his career rate (which still isn’t great) – which means Prigs+Amare running PNR with 3 shooters on offense, and on defense we have a good big protecting Amare.

      I think that will work as well but I’m just a little worried about Melo primarily at the 4 all season where he’s gotta worry about Boozer-West-Smith-Humphries-Nene(if healthy)-Davis-Mullens-Bargniani in the east alone on a pretty much nightly basis. I’m not worried about the skill sets of those guys, but at some point u gotta think that coaches will find a way to use that size against Melo. Atlanta starts 2 guys that are roughly 6’9″ 240 so maybe their size is not as much of a factor. I dunno…either way Woodson has options that should work whether Melo’s at the 3 or the 4

    9. JC Knickfan

      The other obvious thing is Stat needs to get back into playing shape and speed. In most cases it would be easier if he plays against the opponent 2nd unit. I not going to pin my hopes on this, but maybe his defense does improve enough to warrant starting again. Otherwise 2nd unit seem perfect fit, but how will Woodson handle end-game?

      I also double-check Amare schedule to be back around mid-December. It’s not imminent. Knicks still have 9 games play till Dec 15th. If team kills it (7-2), it would hard swallow changing starting lineup up.

    10. iserp

      Felton 30 / Prigioni 10 / Kidd 10
      Kidd 12 / Shump 12 / JR 24
      Brewer 14 / Melo 20 / Novak 14
      Melo 16 / STAT 24 / Novak 8
      Chandler 28 / STAT 8 / Sheed or Camby 12

      Tough to squeeze everyone in there, however, there will be injuries all along. I think it would be interesting to pair Kidd at the PG with Shump at SG. Shump can try a lot of the ball handling, and if in trouble, there’s always kidd there. On the defense, Shump would defend the better of the opponent’s guards. I’d like that STAT come from the bench, because it would make it easier for woodson to play the lineups, however, the best lineup would be Felton / Kidd / Melo / STAT / Chandler, and should finish the games.

    11. johnno

      Frank: we will have 12 guys that actually deserve to play real minutes

      True, but realistically, over an 82 game season, one or two guys will be out at any given time with various minor (hopefully) injuries or illnesses. Already, in addition to Shump and Amare, they’ve had to deal with Chandler’s knee, Sheed’s foot, Kidd’s back and Brewer’s finger — which is why depth is so important. Too many good players is a great “problem” to have…

    12. jon abbey

      did you guys see that Harden had seven of his shots blocked against OKC? that is hard to do for a guard, I wonder what the record is.

    13. johnno

      In other news, D’Antoni regrets leaving Phoenix for New York. Really? With the great run that he had with the Knicks, that’s a shocking revelation.

    14. Hubert Davis

      SeeWhyDee77:

      I think Woody should start Sheed once Stat gets back.

      Strongly disagree. Why would you want to disrupt the starting 5 for Rasheed but not for Amar’e?

      It’s one thing to ask Amar’e to come off the bench because the first unit is playing at an extraordinary high level. It’s another thing entirely to bench him for Rasheed Wallace.

    15. SeeWhyDee77

      Hubert Davis: Strongly disagree.Why would you want to disrupt the starting 5 for Rasheed but not for Amar’e?

      It’s one thing to ask Amar’e to come off the bench because the first unit is playing at an extraordinary high level.It’s another thing entirely to bench him for Rasheed Wallace.

      Well..Amare is not actually getting benched. Starting Sheed gives us more size and defense. He also spreads the floor more as Stat is most effective in mostly the same spots as Melo. Also there are no screen and roll or pick and roll issues with Sheed in there. Besides..Sheed isn’t gonna be counted on for big minutes. Think of it as the same thing with Kurt starting..only more effective and a few more minutes. Now would be the time to do it if Stat really is willing to accept coming off the bench. I think it would work for those reasons and it would save Tyson from being the only big out there and hopefully keeping he and Melo from wearing down as quickly/often. More so…a healthy and in game shape Camby helps Amare as well.

    16. SeeWhyDee77

      SeeWhyDee77: Well..Amare is not actually getting benched.

      When I say that I mean since he hasn’t played yet and our start to the season has put his starting spot in question. He should always get starter’s minutes..but on this team maybe not paired with Melo as much

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