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Knicks Morning News (Thursday, Mar 29 2012)

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Davis hamstring 'tight' on Wednesday (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:26:50 EDT)
    Baron Davis gave the Knicks 25 productive minutes against Orlando on Wednesday night.
    But there was a point in the second quarter when he thought his night might end early.
    “I was talking to the trainers. They were telling me, ‘Maybe this is not the game to try and push through and fight through.’ I was just determined,” Davis said.
    The veteran guard played with the pain in his right hamstring to score 11 points, grab seven rebounds and hand out six assists in the Knicks win over the Magic.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Groin still bothering Melo (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:14:14 EDT)
    Carmelo Anthony played through the pain of a strained right groin on Wednesday night.
    “I felt it at times out there on the court. Just one of them things that hopefully will go away soon,” Anthony said after scoring 25 points in 26 minutes in the Knicks’ win over Orlando.
    Anthony will get treatment on the injury Thursday. There is no indication that the injury will keep him from playing Friday in Atlanta. But he may have to play through the pain again.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Woodson: Shump 'changes the game' on D (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:05:41 EDT)
    Before there was ever Linsanity, the Knicks had another lesser-known point guard who was a surprise off the bench and helped lead the team to a winning streak.
    That would be Iman Shumpert, who, after two solid games as a reserve in early January, was called up to be the starter. From there, the Knicks won their next three games.
    While the rookie couldn’t maintain an extended winning streak — the Knicks lost their next six games — he was already making a name for himself with his on-the-ball defense, aggressiveness driving to the basket and explosive dunks.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Knicks' D dominant under Woodson (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:33:27 EDT)
    Two weeks ago, the Knicks were six games under .500, looking like an afterthought in the Eastern Conference playoff race.
    They’ll wake up Thursday morning just 2 1/2 games out of first place in the Atlantic Division and with a comfortable lead in the eighth spot in the East.
    How did they get here? Just ask the man behind the makeover.
    “It’s been our defense that’s put us in this position,” Mike Woodson said after the Knicks held the Magic to 86 points in a blowout win.

  • [New York Times] Knicks 108, Magic 86: With Anthony Taking the Lead, the Knicks Win Again (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:09:07 GMT)
    The Knicks won for the eighth time in nine games, improving their record to 26-25, even as Amar’e Stoudemire recovered from a bulging disk in his back and Jeremy Lin nursed a knee injury.

  • [New York Times] Amar’e Stoudemire May Be Sidelined Up to 4 Weeks, Knicks Say (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:20:10 GMT)
    A bulging disk is expected to keep forward Amar’e Stoudemire out of action for at least several of the Knicks’ final 15 regular season games.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Nets Beat Indiana Pacers as Deron Williams Scores 30 (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:20:10 GMT)
    Point guard Deron Williams scored 30 points in the victory over the Indiana Pacers, but Shelden Williams and Jordan Williams both left the game injured.

  • [New York Times] Griffin’s Strong Finish Lifts Clippers Over Suns (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:36:07 GMT)
    Blake Griffin threw down three dunks in a 1:40 span late in the fourth quarter and had 27 points and 14 rebounds in the Los Angeles Clippers’ 103-86 victory over the Phoenix Suns on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Hornets Rout Warriors 102-87 for Rare Win (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:53:50 GMT)
    Marco Belinelli had 22 points and six assists, Jarrett Jack added 20 points and nine assists and the New Orleans Hornets earned a rare victory by routing the Golden State Warriors 102-87 on Wednesday night in a matchup of shorthanded teams out of the playoff chase.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Beat Kings for 6th Straight Victory (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:08:45 GMT)
    Manu Ginobili scored 20 points, Kawhi Leonard had 19 and the San Antonio Spurs beat the Sacramento Kings 117-112 on Wednesday night for their sixth straight victory.

  • [New York Times] Deron Williams Leads Depleted Nets Over Pacers (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:59:59 GMT)
    Deron Williams had 30 points and nine assists and injury-ravaged New Jersey beat the Indiana Pacers 100-84 Wednesday night in a game the Nets finished with eight healthy players.

  • [New York Times] Garnett Powers Celtics to 94-82 Win Over Jazz (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:59:57 GMT)
    Kevin Garnett scored 23 points and added 10 rebounds, and Rajon Rondo had 14 assists to lead the Boston Celtics to a 94-82 victory over the Utah Jazz on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Deng’s 3-Pointers Lead Bulls Past Hawks 98-77 (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:06:04 GMT)
    Luol Deng scored 22 points and led a flurry of 3-pointers as the NBA-leading Chicago Bulls won another game on the road, blowing out the Atlanta Hawks 98-77 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Knicks Rout Magic, Climb Back Above .500 (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:15:03 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony and the New York Knicks climbed above .500 for the first time since mid-January in overwhelming fashion, scoring 21 straight points in the third quarter and routing the Orlando Magic 108-86 on Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Bargnani Has 26 Points as Raptors Beat Nuggets (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:45:22 GMT)
    Andrea Bargnani scored 26 points, Jose Calderon had 10 points and 10 assists and the Toronto Raptors snapped a nine-game losing streak against Denver, beating the Nuggets 105-96 Wednesday night.

  • [New York Times] Love Leads Timberwolves Past Bobcats, 88-83 (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:41:48 GMT)
    Kevin Love is playing so well this month he’s beginning to garner MVP consideration.

  • [New York Times] Prince’s 29 Paces Pistons to 87-75 Win Over Cavs (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:35:57 GMT)
    Tayshaun Prince matched a season high with 29 points and rookie Brandon Knight added 16 to help the Detroit Pistons beat Cleveland 87-75 on Wednesday night, handing the Cavaliers their fifth straight loss.

  • [New York Times] The Closer: Van Gundy’s Views Refreshing (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 03:59:50 GMT)
    The Orlando Magic’s coach did not hesitate when asked if the University of Kentucky could compete against an N.B.A. team.

  • [New York Post] Carmelo’s inspiring game despite the pain leads Knicks to win (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 03:24:09 -0500)
    OK, so Willis Reed is still safe. The pain in Reed’s hip was probably a little sharper than the ache in Carmelo Anthony’s groin, the needle a little longer in 1970, the stakes far higher. This wasn’t Game 7 of the Finals with a title on the…

  • [New York Post] Melo is magic in Knicks’ rout (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:37:27 -0500)
    Carmelo Anthony answered the bell and knocked the Magic all the way back to Disney World.
    This was a true fantasy Wednesday night. No Amar’e Stoudemire. No Jeremy Lin. No Jared Jeffries. No way!
    A sore-groined Anthony and the depleted Knicks were spectacular Wednesday night in building a ridiculous…

  • [New York Post] Epidural may mean Knicks get Amar’e back for playoffs (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:20:08 -0500)
    The Knicks announced Wednesday Amar’e Stoudemire will return in 2-4 weeks from the bulging disk in his back as they hope an epidural steroid injection will get him ready for the first round of the playoffs in one month.
    There will be no knife but a very painful needle…

  • [New York Post] Knicks rookie delivers with stars sidelined (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:20:08 -0500)
    Maybe it will be Iman Shumpert who elevates himself. Maybe it will be the rookie out of Georgia Tech who becomes more involved in the Knicks’ offense with Amar’e Stoudemire and Jeremy Lin sidelined.
    “He was phenomenal on both ends of the floor,â? interim coach Mike Woodson said after…

  • [New York Post] Knicks great Ewing ‘ready’ for head-coaching job (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:20:08 -0500)
    Knicks legend Patrick Ewing is hoping this time owner James Dolan gives him a shout if he conducts a full-scale coaching search this offseason. The Big Fella said he’s “ready” to coach the Knicks â?? or anywhere.
    When the Knicks filled their head-coaching position four years ago with Mike D…

  • [New York Daily News] Lin has lunch with fired ESPN headline writer (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 06:06:25 GMT)
    His career with ESPN may be finished, but at least Anthony Federico had a great lunch date.

  • [New York Daily News] Despite injuries, Knicks’ outlook very healthy (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:56:29 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony, we know, wants only the basketball and a half step on his defender. If he misses Amar’e Stoudemire and Jeremy Lin in principle, he does not visibly pine for them once the game is afoot.

  • [New York Daily News] Melo’s Magic moves Knicks above .500 (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:26:03 GMT)
    The Knicks are now 8-1 under Mike Woodson and improved to 26-25 overall. Except for a minor slip up in Toronto, they have been nearly flawless under the new head coach and a revitalized All Star small forward.

  • [New York Daily News] Amar’e could bounce back in ‘2 to 4′ weeks (Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:33:32 GMT)
    Amar’e Stoudemire isn’t ready to give up on the season just yet. The Knicks announced Tuesday that Stoudemire, a six-time All Star forward, will be out “approximately 2 to 4 weeks” with a bulging back disc.

  • 29 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Thursday, Mar 29 2012)

    1. Juany8

      Underrated factor in the last 2 games with Lin out: Baron is quite capable of making a timely, well placed entry pass to Melo in the spots he wants it. Lin missing Anthony on deep post position (or the bigs on cuts) wasn’t exactly helping Anthony get into rhythm. People would someone call out Melo for getting angry when Lin didn’t get him the ball, but if you have a great opportunity to score and your point guard isn’t passing to you, he’s not doing his job.

      Watching Melo destroy people on post ups the past 2 games, it’s clear he needs a steady diet of them , so maybe it shouldn’t be Amar’e and Melo who have stacked minutes but Lin-Amar’e and Baron-Melo. The Lin-Amar’e lineup can focus on pick and rolls and transition offense, while the Melo-Davis lineup features Baron doing his thing and Melo posting up, especially since the second unit has more shooters and better passers right now (although I’m kind of hoping last night was the end of Fields as a starter, which means he’d get totally benched, he’s worthless without Lin and Anthony)

    2. Frank

      Call me crazy, but am I the only one who is glad we don’t have to play Toronto again? Their record isn’t great but they have 4 wins in the March against probable playoff teams (Knicks, Memphis, Houston, Denver) and were one lucky bounce to Deng from beating the Bulls. They have a lot of games coming up in April that could help us – 2 against Philly, 2 against Atlanta, and 1 each against Boston and Atlanta. I may just become a Raptors fan.

      I still think we have an outside shot at the 4 seed since Philly has a tough road. Will be tough to pass Atlanta as they have a 3 game lead in the loss column – but ATL could easily go 0-4 to end the season with BOS, NYK, LAC, and Dallas to end the season.

    3. Matt Smith

      I’m going to keep insisting that Jerome Jordan should replace Harrellson until STAT and Jeffries get healthy. Harrellson looked awful out there yesterday – I know he got several boards, but nothing that he did impressed me. He looks clearly out of shape, and he’s not hustling the same way that he usually does. He’s a complete offensive liability if he can’t hit his shot.

      Jordan is unproven, but he’s tall as hell, athletic, and you could tell he wants to prove himself. He makes some boneheaded plays in garbage time… but while I don’t think basketball IQ is his forte, I think it was more due to garbage time players trying to prove they belong out there. He’s like a poor man’s Javale McGee, and I think Woodson is capable of making him just focus on boards and defense.

    4. d-mar

      Frank:
      Call me crazy, but am I the only one who is glad we don’t have to play Toronto again?Their record isn’t great but they have 4 wins in the March against probable playoff teams (Knicks, Memphis, Houston, Denver) and were one lucky bounce to Deng from beating the Bulls.They have a lot of games coming up in April that could help us – 2 against Philly, 2 against Atlanta, and 1 each against Boston and Atlanta. I may just become a Raptors fan.

      I still think we have an outside shot at the 4 seed since Philly has a tough road. Will be tough to pass Atlanta as they have a 3 game lead in the loss column – but ATL could easily go 0-4 to end the season with BOS, NYK, LAC, and Dallas to end the season.

      I really think catching the Hawks is our best shot, as much as winning the division would obviously be preferable. I think Philly will figure out a way to win enough road games to keep Boston and NY at bay, but Atlanta’s schedule is not easy, and they’ve had so many last second victories it’s bound to catch up with them.

      That being said, if we lost to them tomorrow, it’s division or bust.

    5. Z-man

      Take a close look at Boston’s schedule. They have an absolutely brutal stretch in there, including 12 games in 15 days and a back-to-back-to back. They are freakin’ gritty and resilient, though!

      51 Friday, March 30 @ Minnesota Timberwolves 8:00 p.m
      52 Sunday, April 1 Miami Heat 3:30 p.m.
      53 Wednesday, April 4 San Antonio Spurs 7:30 p.m.
      54 Thursday, April 5 @ Chicago Bulls 9:30 p.m.
      55 Saturday, April 7 @ Indiana Pacers 7:30 p.m.
      56 Sunday, April 8 Philadelphia 76ers 6:00 p.m.
      57 Tuesday, April 10 @ Miami Heat 7:00 p.m.
      58 Wednesday, April 11 Atlanta Hawks 8:00 p.m.
      59 Friday, April 13 @ Toronto Raptors 7:00 p.m.
      60 Saturday, April 14 @ New Jersey Nets 7:30 p.m.
      61 Sunday, April 15 @ Charlotte Bobcats 6:00 p.m.
      62 Tuesday, April 17 @ New York Knicks 8:00 p.m.
      63 Wednesday, April 18 Orlando Magic 8:00 p.m.
      64 Friday, April 20 @ Atlanta Hawks 7:00 p.m.

    6. d-mar

      Z-man:
      Take a close look at Boston’s schedule.They have an absolutely brutal stretch in there, including 12 games in 15 days and a back-to-back-to back.They are freakin’ gritty and resilient, though!

      51 Friday, March 30 @ Minnesota Timberwolves8:00 p.m
      52 Sunday, April 1 Miami Heat3:30 p.m.
      53 Wednesday, April 4 San Antonio Spurs7:30 p.m.
      54 Thursday, April 5 @ Chicago Bulls9:30 p.m.
      55 Saturday, April 7 @ Indiana Pacers7:30 p.m.
      56 Sunday, April 8 Philadelphia 76ers6:00 p.m.
      57 Tuesday, April 10 @ Miami Heat7:00 p.m.
      58 Wednesday, April 11 Atlanta Hawks8:00 p.m.
      59 Friday, April 13 @ Toronto Raptors7:00 p.m.
      60 Saturday, April 14 @ New Jersey Nets7:30 p.m.
      61 Sunday, April 15 @ Charlotte Bobcats6:00 p.m.
      62 Tuesday, April 17 @ New York Knicks8:00 p.m.
      63 Wednesday, April 18 Orlando Magic8:00 p.m.
      64 Friday, April 20 @ Atlanta Hawks7:00 p.m.

      And on 4/24 they play Miami again. What schedule maker decided it was a good idea to have Boston and Miami play each other 3 times in the last month of the season? Oh well, sucks to be green.

    7. Caleb

      I think the Knicks have an excellent chance of catching Boston – I might even call it likely. I think we have a decent chance of catching Philly. Atlanta, probably not, although we have the opportunity, playing them twice.

      The main problem is that OUR schedule is very tough. At least it’s well-spaced, not a ton of back to backs.

      It’s a little hard to gauge strength of schedule. So much depends on where teams are. If teams are locked into playoff position, or home court, they’re going to mail it in the last week. i.e. Boston’s 4/24 game against Miami is going to be against the JV.

      But the Knicks are finally playing like I thought they could at the beginning of the season. If they keep it up, they’re probably better than anyone in the conference except Chicago and Miami. And if we get Chicago in the first round and Rose is hurt, who knows what might happen?

    8. Eternal OptiKnist

      So watching the game last night, which was almost akin to porn, I couldn’t help but notice that it started with Melo in the post and when he was doubled, he passed out and the Dantoni-like ball movement found the open man for a great shot. As a D’antoni supporter, I’m surprised he didn’t figure this out. Is it that a) he simply didn’t realize the potential of this hybrid style? b) anything he tried with Melo would have been resisted? c) this is driven by Melo playing the 4 with Amare out? I mean, it was everything you loved about Melo’s ability in isolation and on the block…coupled with trust in your teammates and moving the ball when doubled. We played kind of like the Magic like to, only we hit shots and defended with passion. What an inspiring win. I’d assume we get Jared Jeffries back for Chicago on 4/8 which would be perfect timing. I’m penciling in Lin for this Saturday against Cleveland. It sucks we don’t have Amare in for Atlanta, he always seems to have them completely intimidated. If we could steal Atlanta and then beat Cleveland on the back-to-back, our chances of finishing with 34 – 36 wins are pretty damn high. That should be good enough to get a ticket to the dance at the 8th spot. Then I’ll just hope for Philly and Boston to slip. Pretty awesome drama to close this season.

    9. thenamestsam

      Fantastic win last night, and as much as I’m trying not to get too excited over any one game last night was the first time I truly believed this team has a chance to make a very, very deep run. The difference was all Carmelo. With him playing average ball this team can still be pretty good as we’ve seen for the last few games. With him playing like that, this team has a chance to do special things. I think we’re as talented as Dallas was last year, and if we can just get an insane Melo hot streak the way they got a crazy Dirk hot streak…we have a chance against anyone.

      It really makes me look back in anger at games they threw away earlier in the season. They obviously weren’t the same team then but they lost games they should have won even at the time because of indifference, bad coaching and bad leadership on the floor, and those games are really coming back to bite us in the ass now. As much as I like this team the road through the playoffs looks nearly impossible from where they sit.

    10. Z-man

      @8 In D’Antoni’s system, Melo was not getting the ball in most-up isolations nearly as much. Now we run the shot clock down on most possessions by sesign, so if Melo wants to operate and then decide to pass or shoot, he’s going with the flow instead of against it.

    11. Z-man

      @9, I see it differently; had it not been for the losing, D’Antoni might still be around. The focus on defense has taken a lot of pressure off of the offense. Players are playing their game and not needing to adapt so much.

      BTW, Chandler’s tap-outs are really a huge factor for us; they don’t show up in the box score, but have been a big part of this winning streak. Glad that the hard fould by Big Baby didn’t result in another injury, that was nasty.

    12. SSS

      Caleb: I think the Knicks have an excellent chance of catching Boston – I might even call it likely. I think we have a decent chance of catching Philly. Atlanta, probably not, although we have the opportunity, playing them twice.

      If we’re not going to move up to sixth or above, which as you note seems unlikely though not impossible, I really don’t want to pass Boston. I like the matchup with the Bulls much better (or, rather, l hate it less) than the matchup with the Heat.

    13. Caleb

      SSS: I like the matchup with the Bulls much better (or, rather, l hate it less) than the matchup with the Heat.

      I totally agree. Although, I think Miami has a decent chance of catching the Bulls. They’re only 2 back int he loss column. It’s kind of weird – Chicago has played 52 games, and Miami has only played 48.

    14. thenamestsam

      Z-man:
      @9, I see it differently; had it not been for the losing, D’Antoni might still be around.The focus on defense has taken a lot of pressure off of the offense. Players are playing their game and not needing to adapt so much.

      BTW, Chandler’s tap-outs are really a huge factor for us; they don’t show up in the box score, but have been a big part of this winning streak.Glad that the hard fould by Big Baby didn’t result in another injury, that was nasty.

      Now that’s what I call looking on the upside. Woodson has been fantastic so far. Does everyone think we should hold onto him past this year now? It seems like he has earned the job but I’ve seen lots of teams in lots of sports play energized and inspired for the short term with a new coach, the new coach gets rehired and then about halfway through the next season everyone realizes he’s actually awful. I think I’d still like for them to take a shot at finding someone better. Am I wrong?

    15. JC Knickfan

      Juany8:
      Underrated factor in the last 2 games with Lin out: Baron is quite capable of making a timely, well placed entry pass to Melo in the spots he wants it. Lin missing Anthonyon deep post position (or the bigs on cuts) wasn’t exactly helping Anthony get into rhythm. People would someone call out Melo for getting angry when Lin didn’t get him the ball, but if you have a great opportunity to score and your point guard isn’t passing to you, he’s not doing his job.

      Watching Melo destroy people on post ups the past 2 games, it’s clear he needs a steady diet of them , so maybe it shouldn’t be Amar’e and Melo who have stacked minutes but Lin-Amar’e and Baron-Melo. The Lin-Amar’e lineup can focus on pick and rolls and transition offense, while the Melo-Davis lineup features Baron doing his thing and Melo posting up, especially since the second unit has more shooters and better passers right now (although I’m kind of hoping last night was the end of Fields as a starter, which means he’d get totally benched, he’s worthless without Lin and Anthony)

      You blaming Melo shooting slump on Lin post entry pass. He shoot 40% fg in Buck game and thats not good. Melo did make 12-12 FT make his true Shooting decent. Melo mid range pull back jumper which he consistent get every game is not going down. After 1/12 Memphis game which he then sat out next game, he been shooting horrible minus few good games. He been out 3 time already this year and his I contribute his non superstar play to injuries and surgery during the offseason. Through 27 game last with the Knicks Melo shot 46% FG 42 % 3pt and 87 % FT. This Melo I thought we getting.

    16. DS

      Just double checking my assertion here and two addendums: one lineup is +4: Lin-Walker-Fields-Stoudemire-Chandler w/o two “defenders.”

      Some others, presumably from the beginning of the season include Douglas and have a small positive margin over opponents. (I’d give Bibby’s minutes to Douglas in a heartbeat).

    17. TelegraphedPass

      @14 I think I’d rather Woody stick around. Not so much because I think he’s some type of supercoach (I don’t believe in that idea. Not even with P Jax or Pop) but I think building some consistency and familiarity would be very beneficial for this team. Why keep swapping rosters and players? Even though our stars are flawed and our coach isn’t perfect I don’t believe in continuously changing them around unless you’re acquiring a Hall-of-Fame talent and want to build around him.

    18. ephus

      Melo’s game last night reminded me of vintage Adrian Dantley, only with defensive intensity, 3 point shooting and passing out of the post. That is a really great asset, if he can keep it up.

    19. art vandelay

      Anyone else already fearing the dreaded “Friday Night Knicks” game tomorrow night @ Atlanta? Maybe Brian should start the game thread, or we need to come up with some other way to combat the powerful force that is the Friday Night Knicks jinx!!!

    20. art vandelay

      d-mar: I really think catching the Hawks is our best shot, as much as winning the division would obviously be preferable. I think Philly will figure out a way to win enough road games to keep Boston and NY at bay, but Atlanta’s schedule is not easy, and they’ve had so many last second victories it’s bound to catch up with them.That being said, if we lost to them tomorrow, it’s division or bust.

      I agree…I don´t think Philly´s remaining schedule doesn´t strike me as all that difficult in the least bit.

    21. Caleb

      I will be at “The Highlight Factory” to snap the jinx.

      I think we can wait and see on the coach. I’d be inclined to keep Woodson, for sake of continuity. As I always say, coaches’ impact is limited. Woody was the beneficiary of a bit of luck – the Knicks were starting to play better under MDA (the last couple of games) and he sort of caught the momentum. At the same time, the coaching change also injected a jolt of urgency and soul-searching which has helped, at least in the short-term.

      The Ewing comments are interesting – I wonder if bringing home Patrick would bump our odds of swinging a Dwight Howard deal. Impossible to say from here, but the agents should be talking..

    22. Nick C.

      Caleb, or anyone, what was the feedback on Woodson with Atlanta? To be honest all I seem to recall is he seemed to be one losing streak away from being fired, despite the success after so many years of anything but.

    23. ephus

      The last time that the Knicks made a decision on a coach based upon a March playoff push, we got Isiah Thomas’ extension for getting the Knicks near (but not in) the playoffs one year after the 23 win Larry Brown disaster. I hope that Grunwald and Dolan wait until the Knicks conclude the season (including the playoffs) before deciding who should be coaching the team next year.

      Having said that, I think it is now incontestable that the change from MDA to Woodson was a catalyst for a marked improvement in the Knicks performance. Maybe quitting was the best contribution that MDA made to this team this year.

    24. Caleb

      People in Atlanta just don’t care that much about the Hawks. The take on Woody here was about what you hear on ESPN – semi-positive for a while, then grumbling that they kept losing in the playoffs. Lots of talk about his “defensive-mindedness” which we’vetalked about here, as being slightly misleading.

      In his first years, there was a culture clash between Woody and the young guys – the team was very young, and Woodson is a curmudgeon, and he was always having this or that argument with Josh Smith. Or Acie Law.

      On the plus side, you have to give props to a coach who improves the team’s record six years running (NBA record!) All in all I think they achieved about what you’d hope for, given the talent. They never overachieved or broke through, but they never really fell apart int he playoffs, except the final year flop when they just rolled over. There was that one Boston series where they clawed back and almost pulled the upset, despite being totally overmatched. (It was 3-3, and they were like -50 on the point differential).

      Management here is just brutal, and weird. They signed Joe Johnson to a crazy deal, to play PG. Eventually gave up on that, and then they re-signed him to that crazy $120 million – that turned the fans against Joe, more than anything I’ve seen here. Wasn’t helped by his grumbling about the crowd. The guy who really takes heat is Marvin Williams. If he were in NY there’d be nothing left but the bones.

      funny Hawks trivia: about a month ago, they started running “Insani-Teague” TV ads…

    25. Frank O.

      Frank:
      Call me crazy, but am I the only one who is glad we don’t have to play Toronto again?Their record isn’t great but they have 4 wins in the March against probable playoff teams (Knicks, Memphis, Houston, Denver) and were one lucky bounce to Deng from beating the Bulls.They have a lot of games coming up in April that could help us – 2 against Philly, 2 against Atlanta, and 1 each against Boston and Atlanta. I may just become a Raptors fan.

      I still think we have an outside shot at the 4 seed since Philly has a tough road. Will be tough to pass Atlanta as they have a 3 game lead in the loss column – but ATL could easily go 0-4 to end the season with BOS, NYK, LAC, and Dallas to end the season.

      Assuming those teams need to play hard at the end…

    26. hoolahoop

      Frank:
      Call me crazy, but am I the only one who is glad we don’t have to play Toronto again?Their record isn’t great but they have 4 wins in the March against probable playoff teams (Knicks, Memphis, Houston, Denver) and were one lucky bounce to Deng from beating the Bulls.They have a lot of games coming up in April that could help us – 2 against Philly, 2 against Atlanta, and 1 each against Boston and Atlanta. I may just become a Raptors fan.

      I still think we have an outside shot at the 4 seed since Philly has a tough road. Will be tough to pass Atlanta as they have a 3 game lead in the loss column – but ATL could easily go 0-4 to end the season with BOS, NYK, LAC, and Dallas to end the season.

      Yes, They’ve been especially tough the last two weeks. The more I think of the recent Toronto loss, the more I think it’s because Toronto played good, more than the knicks played bad.

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