Owen:
“This is what you missed, what I was referring to: “Also, it would be impossible for a man of my height to put on 20 lbs in a year.”

I must have missed something. I read this to mean that THCJ is shorter than average, given what he said about Dwight Howard and the ability of tall people to put on weight.

As a connoisseur of pointless online arguments, I must pronounce myself highly satisfied with this one. This really has it all….

I’m around average height: about 5’10″. Useless note: when I play pickup basketball, I’m usually the guy forced to play point guard who has the ball skills of Andray Blatche. I do set a lot of picks, though, and my shooting form is pretty good within 20 feet, so I’m not totally useless.

I must have missed something. I read this to mean that THCJ is shorter than average, given what he said about Dwight Howard and the ability of tall people to put on weight.

As a connoisseur of pointless online arguments, I must pronounce myself highly satisfied with this one. This really has it all….

Owen:
Always fun with you two, like ships in the night….

Ruruland:

“You people are honestly going to believe someone who claims that it’s more difficult for a tall person to put on weight?”

THCJ:

“It’s much harder to gain 25 lbs. when you’re already huge than it is when you’re an 18-year-old, lanky kid who’s 6’10? and has never lifted outside of a high school gym. The first size any person puts on is the easiest.

It is MUCH more likely that Dwight Howard, at his size and fitness level, could gain 25 lbs. in a year than Arnold could mid-career.”

Actually, Jowles is right about beginning lifters. They can achieve muscle gain in caloric deficits while losing fat. It has nothing to do with converting fat to muscle, as someone who thinks tall people cannot put on weight would believe.

This is what you missed, what I was referring to: “Also, it would be impossible for a man of my height to put on 20 lbs in a year.”

DRed:
In college a, um, good friend of mine sometimes smoked weed with some very athletic NBA players.It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Steve Nash liked to get high on occasion.

w/o a doubt. But, I suspect, especially at his age, that he does it “seasonally”. The “Steve Nash Diet” is quite famous now, and since marijuana effects one’s appetite, and therefore also effects one’s diet.

That said, I suppose Steve Nash would probably suspect #1 in a PED investigation. He peaked in his 30s and has been able to sustain his peak almost into his 40s. Physical freak? Devotion to diet and exercise? Or cheater?

flossy: Can you explain what you mean by Griffin over-performing because of his diet?He seems to me like he belongs in the LeBron/Howard group of “are you kidding me?” athletic specimens.

Griffin’s mother is a nutritionist. He doesn’t eat red meat. He eats minimal sugar. He is very conscious about how diet effects performance. He has publicly questioned the dietary habits of other players (Lamar Odom). (Lamar Odom, fwiw, was considered an “are you kidding me” specimen coming out of college— he’s been a pretty good nba player, but there was probably a lot of potential with him that went unrealized)

The Honorable Cock Jowles: It’s much harder to gain 25 lbs. when you’re already huge than it is when you’re an 18-year-old, lanky kid who’s 6’10? and has never lifted outside of a high school gym. The first size any person puts on is the easiest.

It is MUCH more likely that Dwight Howard, at his size and fitness level, could gain 25 lbs. in a year than Arnold could mid-career.

I actually don’t disagree with this, I did mention that because of Dwight’s height 25 pounds of muscle for him wouldn’t be as ridiculous. It would probably be better to do this little analysis in terms of percentage of total weight instead of raw mass totals lol.

Ruruland:

“You people are honestly going to believe someone who claims that it’s more difficult for a tall person to put on weight?”

THCJ:

“It’s much harder to gain 25 lbs. when you’re already huge than it is when you’re an 18-year-old, lanky kid who’s 6’10? and has never lifted outside of a high school gym. The first size any person puts on is the easiest.

It is MUCH more likely that Dwight Howard, at his size and fitness level, could gain 25 lbs. in a year than Arnold could mid-career.”

For most of us that myth was resolved in grade school.
Jowles, tall people can add the same amount of weight as anyone else, all things being equal.

The 15 pound max pure lean muscle mass has been verified quite a few times over years, regardless of what you see on different forums and advertisements.

Obviously, it’s almost impossible to just add lean muscle mass without any fat due to the needed caloric surplus. That’s why every serious bodybuilder in the work bulks and them cuts…. meaning cuts the fat he added while also adding muscle.

The fact that Jowles didn’t mention any of this when talking about weight gain and thinks tall people can’t gain weight as easily,well, draw your own conclusions.

jon abbey: no

The original comment was facetious, so I think we can end this discussion here before someone actually tries to argue that pot leads to heroin.

Also, it would be impossible for a man of my height to put on 20 lbs in a year. I could see a guy of Howard’s stature having a much easier time of it. His muscles are long.