Comments on: Knicks Morning News (Thursday, Aug 16 2012)

By: ruruland

ruruland — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:59:37 +0000

Brian Cronin: The great thing is that both options are very much in play for Melo this season. I mean, he was well over those levels during the hot streak at the end, so I think there is a very good chance he beats both those levels this season. Which would be great to see.

Yep Key factors 1) First time Melo has played with drive and kick pg since Iverson/Carter in 2008. Melo had .568 TS that year, and .585 TS in final 62 games (Iverson adjustment) Drive and kick is one of the primary ways Melo scores off the ball, where he like virtually all players , is more efficient 2)Melo had very low 3pa when he shot .568 in 2008.... His 3pt shot is better and a much bigger part of his arsenal. 3) Melo will be playing with the best combination of passing pgs that he's ever played with....Kidd/Felton are superior to Miller/Boykins, Iverson/Carter, Lawson/Billups by all statistical measures. Passing allows Melo to cut, run the wing in transition, dive as roller, spot up shoot-- it won't take a huge distribution change with these shot types to see Melo's efficiency spike up. And of course there's the fact that he's had probably the best offseason of his career and is just a touch motivated for next season, beyond being at a prime age and in free from any offseason surgeries are lockouts....Melo was off the charts good going into 2009, and 2006 when he was in the kind of shape hes in now.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:43:50 +0000

Yeah, whenever you hear “40-year-old NBA player,” the odds are pretty damn good that that player was really good in his prime.

By: flossy

flossy — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:21:34 +0000

SeeWhyDee77: who pretty much is the same type of player.

Maybe 40 year-old Kurt Thomas is equivalent to 23 year old Josh Harrellson, but KT led the NCAA in scoring. They are not really comparable, talent-wise.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:27:16 +0000

I really think that they should change the waived player rule to something like an age requirement. Something like “if you’re under 30 years old, you can be picked up again by the team that traded you after you’re waived.” Or “if your contract is non-guaranteed, you can be picked up by the team that traded you.”

The reason the current rule is in place is for stuff like Ilgauskus and Antonio McDyess getting traded, clearing waivers because of their big salaries and old age and then re-signing with the teams that traded them. The rule was not designed to essentially fuck over guys like Jorts and Jerome Jordan and yet that’s exactly what it does. It is a really dumb rule.

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:23:20 +0000

>.175 WS/48 > .570 TS

The great thing is that both options are very much in play for Melo this season. I mean, he was well over those levels during the hot streak at the end, so I think there is a very good chance he beats both those levels this season. Which would be great to see.

By: ruruland

ruruland — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:50:42 +0000

Jorts is a nice story, but his jumper will have to improve before he can be relied upon for meaningful minutes.

By: knicknyk

knicknyk — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 07:50:41 +0000

SeeWhyDee77: 2 bad we can’t bring Jorts back this season…sucks. I think he could learn tons from Kurt Thomas, who pretty much is the same type of player. Big, tough, gritty, not very athletic, nice J, uses position defense very well, great at the pick & pop..o well..no use cryin over spilled milk I suppose- but is it ok to miss it?

Yeah for real. I hope he finds a spot and sticks. Someone brought up the fact that he would be a good fit in Miami.

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 04:31:29 +0000

2 bad we can’t bring Jorts back this season…sucks. I think he could learn tons from Kurt Thomas, who pretty much is the same type of player. Big, tough, gritty, not very athletic, nice J, uses position defense very well, great at the pick & pop..o well..no use cryin over spilled milk I suppose- but is it ok to miss it?

By: AvonBarksdale

AvonBarksdale — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:14:46 +0000

I agree with post #20. I’d also like to steer this thread back towards the STAT article somehow and his ability to play extremely effective minutes on the court without melo and chandler somehow without losing his “star” status. Woodson seemed to use a lot of great substitutions and keep throwing a wide array of lineups for his brief run prior to the playoffs but once the real deal games started up against the heat it was entirely too much JR Smith, no accountability on hustle plays, no attempt to run any plays whatsoever and i have a feeling no matter what happens in the regular season by the time the playoffs come around whether through injury or straight decision he will shrink coaching-wise. Stat was on fire at least one of those games (possibly fire extinguisher game ) and no one really got him the ball even though he was knocking down shots and drawing fouls…that was a coaching issue, woody didn’t really try to do much, i don’t like the idea that due to chandlers flu and shumps injury, lins injury, jefferies limitations, baron davis injury he just let the team kinda give up…whatever fuck lin he’s not on the team go speculate about his season on the rockets blog, which i’ll also be reading but they’ll be plenty of time to talk about lin when kidd/melo/stat get injured or something.

By: ruruland

ruruland — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:42:49 +0000

It also should be noted that Felton’s assists per 36 was higher than Lin’s in MDA’s offense: 8.7 to 8.3

Is Lin a good penetrator?