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Knicks Morning News (Sunday, May 12 2013)

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Notes: Another rough night for J.R. (Sun, 12 May 2013 01:26:43 EDT)
    INDIANAPOLIS — The question on most observers’ minds prior to Game 3 was, “Will J.R. play?”
    Earlier in the day, New York Knicks guard J.R. Smith had been listed as questionable, and it was reported that he had a fever that had spiked at 102 degrees. By the time of coach Mike Woodson’s pregame news conference, the fever had gone down, and Smith was trying to see if he could go.
    To no one’s surprise, Smith played. “I knew I was going to play anyway, regardless of whatever was going on,” Smith said.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Stoudemire returns, in limited role (Sun, 12 May 2013 01:13:11 EDT)
    INDIANAPOLIS — Amar’e Stoudemire made his first appearance for the Knicks since March 7 on Saturday. Physically, his return was a success. Stoudemire was upbeat after the game regarding his knee.
    “It feels great, as far as my body’s concerned,” Stoudemire said. “[I] feel healthy. Feel strong. Felt explosive. Felt I was in better shape than I thought I was.”
    Stoudemire contributed seven points in nine minutes, and the Knicks played even with the Pacers on the scoreboard in his time on the court.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Knicks' offense crumbles in Game 3 loss (Sun, 12 May 2013 01:02:31 EDT)
    INDIANAPOLIS — It isn’t exactly rocket science.
    When the New York Knicks move the ball, their offense tends to work. But when the ball stops moving, so does the scoring.
    “When we try to go one-on-one, we become one of the bottom teams in the league,” Jason Kidd said prior to Game 3. “So we understand what we have to do.”
    Understanding and doing are two different things, of course. And the Knicks learned that the hard way Saturday night.
    The Knicks’ offense was slow, sloppy and ineffective in their Game 3 loss to the Indiana Pacers.

  • [New York Times] J. R. Smith Has a Fever, but His Game Stays Cold (Sun, 12 May 2013 04:38:15 GMT)
    The Knicks guard J.R. Smith awoke Saturday morning with a 102-degree fever, which did nothing for his shooting touch in Game 3.    

  • [New York Times] Game 3: Pacers 82, Knicks 71: Knicks Trail Early, Late and in Between in Loss to Pacers (Sun, 12 May 2013 04:37:54 GMT)
    The Knicks flirted with a franchise low in scoring as Roy Hibbert dominated the paint and the Pacers took a 2-1 lead in the second-round series.    

  • [New York Times] Pacers Protect Home Court, Beat Knicks 82-71 (Sun, 12 May 2013 04:13:53 GMT)
    The Indiana Pacers kept everything in front of them Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Knicks-Pacers: Game 3 (Sun, 12 May 2013 04:12:05 GMT)
    Images from Indiana’s 82-71 victory, which gave it a 2-1 lead in the series.    

  • [New York Times] Kings Owners Plan ‘Backup’ Deal With Seattle Group: ESPN (Sun, 12 May 2013 03:49:37 GMT)
    The owners of the Sacramento Kings intend to reject a sale that would keep the NBA team in the city and instead cut a deal that could give a minority stake to investors intent on moving the team to Seattle, ESPN reported on Saturday.    

  • [New York Times] Game 3: Grizzlies 87, Thunder 81: N.B.A. Playoffs â?? Grizzlies Pull Ahead Late to Beat Thunder (Sun, 12 May 2013 02:22:25 GMT)
    With its “grit and grindâ? style, Memphis managed to hold off a persistent Oklahoma City team to take a 2-1 lead in their second-round N.B.A. playoff series.    

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Take 2-1 Lead Beating Thunder 87-81 (Sun, 12 May 2013 01:53:08 GMT)
    The Memphis Grizzlies call it grit and grind, and it got them through another ugly game.    

  • [New York Times] AP Source: Hansen Adds Backup Offer to Kings Sale (Sun, 12 May 2013 01:01:52 GMT)
    If the NBA Board of Governors denies the pending sale and relocation of the Sacramento Kings, the Seattle group seeking to purchase the franchise has a backup deal with the Maloof family.    

  • [New York Times] Knicks JR Smith Plays Through Illness vs. Pacers (Sun, 12 May 2013 00:53:05 GMT)
    Knicks guard J.R. Smith played against the Pacers in Game 3 on Saturday night after being iffy to go because of an illness.    

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: J.R. Smith May Miss Game 3 (Sun, 12 May 2013 00:06:32 GMT)
    The Knicks are unsure if guard J.R. Smith will be able to play in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference semifinals against the Indiana Pacers on Saturday night after Smith missed a shootaround with an undisclosed illness.    

  • [New York Newsday] Knicks go cold as Pacers win to take 2-1 series advantage (Sun, 12 May 2013 00:25:28 EDT)
    The Knicks thought they rediscovered their offense in Game 2 against Indiana, but they lost it again in the three days between games.

  • [New York Newsday] Knicks need to find more offense (Sun, 12 May 2013 00:29:57 EDT)
    When last we saw the Knicks, they were running the Pacers out of Madison Square Garden with a late torrent of points.

  • [New York Newsday] Eager Amar'e Stoudemire gets rust off with nearly 9 minutes in Game 3 (Sun, 12 May 2013 00:07:38 EDT)
    As the end of his wait to return to action for the first time in more than two months approached Saturday, Knicks forward Amar'e Stoudemire was like a kid on Christmas morning. And Carmelo Anthony was as amused as any parent enduring a child's irrepressible burst of energy.

  • [New York Newsday] Smith has 102 fever in the morning but finds some energy in second half (Sun, 12 May 2013 01:11:00 EDT)
    J.R. Smith started getting the chills Friday night and Mike Woodson said he had a temperature of 102 Saturday morning.

  • [New York Post] Tip ins (Sun, 12 May 2013 02:27:29 -0500)
    HERO

    For the second time in three games, Pacers big man Roy Hibbert was a monster, far outplaying Tyson Chandler in the center battle. Hibbert finished with 24 points and 12 rebounds, a dominant performance.
    ZERO

    The Knicks’ point guard trio was ineffective, with Raymond Felton, Pablo Prigioni and Jason…

  • [New York Post] With J.R. ailing, Knicks go belly up (Sun, 12 May 2013 04:31:03 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? The Knicks played as sickly as J.R. Smith looked.
    The venue changed to the loud Bankers Life Field House, but it was Game 1 all over again. The Pacers outhustled, outmuscled, outboarded and shut down the Knicks offense as neither Amar’e Stoudemire’s return or J.R…

  • [New York Post] Felton flops in Game 3 (Sun, 12 May 2013 02:43:39 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? The postseason completely turned for Raymond Felton last night â?? and not for the better.
    Throughout the Knicks’ eight-game playoff run entering last night, Felton had been magnificent. He had been the Knicks’ most consistent postseason player â?? and arguably their best.
    Until last night.
    In the Knicks’ 82-71 Game 3…

  • [New York Post] Center fumes as Knicks don’t execute (Sun, 12 May 2013 04:16:13 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? Upset with a slew of aspects in the Knicks’ Game 3 debacle last night, Tyson Chandler sounded off, declaring his team abandoned the gameplan on defending Roy Hibbert, isn’t rebounding collectively and is “playing as individualsâ? on offense.
    Chandler, too, played poorly in the Knicks’ ugly 82-71 loss…

  • [New York Post] Fever not all that ails J.R. (Sun, 12 May 2013 04:16:13 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? J.R. Smith needed not only to find his jump shot last night but a flu shot.
    The soap opera surrounding the embattled Smith took another turn as he missed yesterday’s morning shootaround at Bankers Life Fieldhouse with a 102-degree fever and his status wasn’t certain until…

  • [New York Post] Knicks have no answers for Hibbert (Sun, 12 May 2013 04:16:13 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? Pacers center Roy Hibbert had not spoken to the playoff media from the interview podium before. So he asked teammates whether or not he should do it.
    Well, whether he was a logical choice to do so was a no-brainer.
    “This is his best playoff game ever, probably,â? Pacers…

  • [New York Post] Amar’e & J.R. battle, but can’t rescue sickly offense (Sun, 12 May 2013 03:32:13 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? It wasn’t so much J.R. Smith who looked sick, and it wasn’t so much Amar’e Stoudemire who looked rusty, it was the rest of them.
    Neither Smith nor Stoudemire conjured up memories of Willis Reed limping through the Garden tunnel for Game 7, but don…

  • [New York Post] Chandler & Co. must find way to rebound from disastrous effort (Sun, 12 May 2013 03:17:20 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? Time after time the ball would be in the air, it would clank hard off the rim, the 18,185 people inside Bankers Life Fieldhouse would groan. And time after time the ball would land in a friendly set of hands, and the same 18,185 people would exhale…

  • [New York Post] Stoudemire solid in return from knee surgery (Sun, 12 May 2013 02:15:05 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? Amar’e Stoudemire actually was one of the few Knicks who didn’t play badly on the offensive end.
    Stoudemire scored seven points in 8:56 as he made his return in the Knicks’ 82-71 loss to the Pacers Saturday night at Bankers Life Fieldhouse. Stoudemire struggled rebounding the…

  • [New York Post] Indy wins battle of treys (Sun, 12 May 2013 00:58:31 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? So you pick up a boxscore after Game 3 of the Eastern Conference semifinals between the Knicks and the Pacers. You look at 3-pointers and there’s no surprise. One side took 33, the other side took 11.Surprise. It was the Knicks, the guys who averaged 29 a…

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Amar’e stint short, sweet (Sun, 12 May 2013 06:02:40 GMT)
    Amar’e Stoudemire insists there is “no pressureâ? for him to immediately receive more playing time, but the $100 million power forward logged less than nine minutes Saturday in his return to the Knicks’ lineup for the first time since March 7.    

  • [New York Daily News] Ailing J.R. gives it best shot (Sun, 12 May 2013 05:54:16 GMT)
    Piled on top of the shooting woes and the tabloid headlines, J.R. Smith began “getting the chillsâ? Friday and woke up in the middle of the night with a temperature of 102 degrees. Smith slogged through nearly 25 minutes of action Saturday night despite what the team’s medical staff labeled a virus that forced him to skip the Knicks’ morning practice, but he mostly was ineffectual again in the Pacers’ 82-71 Game 3 victory.    

  • [New York Daily News] Lawrence: Knicks need Melo to pick up Pace (Sun, 12 May 2013 05:44:47 GMT)
    The Knicks are once again down to the Pacers in this conference semifinal series and you can start the blame game by pointing fingers at Carmelo Anthony. The Knicks needed way more than Anthony’s pedestrian 21-point effort, with only eight coming after halftime.    

  • [New York Daily News] City Brickers: Knicks awful shooting leads to Game 3 loss to Pacers (Sun, 12 May 2013 03:21:54 GMT)
    J.R. Smith was battling fatigue on Saturday night that was brought on by a 102-degree fever. As for his teammates, they are in for the fight of their season due to a severe case of being ice cold. It all went horribly wrong for Carmelo Anthony, Smith and especially Tyson Chandler in Game 3.    

  • [New York Daily News] Bossert’s Belmont analysis: May 12 (Sun, 12 May 2013 00:58:06 GMT)
    1. Honorable Pass has been freshened up since being claimed by Maker (57%) on Feb. 16; working well. Guyana Star had two-race win streak snapped when third in last beaten less than a length. City Vice finished second in similar spot in most recent. DIRT SELECTIONS: Seven Dreams, Honorable Pass, Guyana Star.    

  • 22 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Sunday, May 12 2013)

    1. hoolahoop

      What I saw last night was a disciplined team that plays fundamentally good basketball with tough defense and intense effort vs. a team with an unorganized Melo-centric streetball offense that has no agenda and no urgency to win.
      During the Boston series I wondered how it would be different if they traded coaches. Wondering that in this series, too.
      If anyone sees TC or RF, tell them there’s a game Tuesday.

    2. bidiong

      I just wish the rest of the team would give Melo a little help. Poor guy is going to get crushed tomorrow.

    3. MeloDrama

      People hating on Melo are just that, haters. They made up their minds a long time ago on him and enjoy every time he fails since it reinforces their narrative.

      If NY goes down, it’s gonna have a lot more to do with Tyson Chandler’s injury, Jason Kidd’s inability to shoot and an incredible Pacer defense than Melo’s failings as a player.

    4. MeloDrama

      hoolahoop:
      What I saw last night was a disciplined team that plays fundamentally good basketball with tough defense and intense effort vs. a team with an unorganized Melo-centric streetball offense that has no agenda and no urgency to win.
      During the Boston series I wondered how it would be different if they traded coaches. Wondering that in this series, too.
      If anyone sees TC or RF, tell them there’s a game Tuesday.

      I’ll say this … I think Woodson did one of the best coaching jobs in the league this year. Vogel IMO was just that much better. What he crafted with that team in light of the Granger injury is impressive. They lack offense, but they made up for it by coming up with one of the best defensive seasons ever.

    5. JK47

      Chandler averaged a double-double– 10.4 points, 10.7 rebounds– in the regular season. In the playoffs he’s averaging 5.8 points, 7.1 rebounds.

      The last time Tyson Chandler had a double-double in a game was February 27. He has not been the same since returning to the lineup on March 13. His production has been nonexistent and he is not helping much on the defensive end.

      Judging from how he looks out there, I’d say he’s about 40% of the “real” Tyson Chandler. The good Tyson Chandler is not going to be returning this season, and without him we’re just not really all that good.

    6. mr.JayP

      JK47:
      Chandler averaged a double-double– 10.4 points, 10.7 rebounds– in the regular season.In the playoffs he’s averaging 5.8 points, 7.1 rebounds.

      The last time Tyson Chandler had a double-double in a game was February 27.He has not been the same since returning to the lineup on March 13.His production has been nonexistent and he is not helping much on the defensive end.

      Judging from how he looks out there, I’d say he’s about 40% of the “real” Tyson Chandler.The good Tyson Chandler is not going to be returning this season, and without him we’re just not really all that good.

      So what your saying is we should have never worn ty down during the RS and actually picked up serviceable bigs? Like Kmart and Chris anderson?

      Yes i am critical of woody. but again, this is his fault…should have dropped sheed early.

    7. Hubert Davis

      MeloDrama:
      People hating on Melo are just that, haters. They made up their minds a long time ago on him and enjoy every time he fails since it reinforces their narrative.

      If NY goes down, it’s gonna have a lot more to do with Tyson Chandler’s injury, Jason Kidd’s inability to shoot and an incredible Pacer defense than Melo’s failings as a player.

      I’m not a Melo hater and he’s probably not among the top 5 reasons we’re down in this series.

      But he’s faced single coverage all series and has failed to be good enough to make them pay for that. It just makes those MVP chants and the Garden all the more laughable.

      Great players beat great defenses.

    8. Tony Pena

      Fair enough. Tough stuff for Melo individually, because against this defense there’s none of that “let me take it to the hoop since the jumper’s not falling”…

    9. DRed

      There’s plenty of blame to go around right now. The list of Knicks playing well in the playoffs is ridiculously short

    10. david

      If you think what Melo has faced is “one on one” defense, you need to have you eyes checked. Just like the Celtics series, there is a man cheating over, not trapping but definitely there influencing his options.

      The death of Kidd as a 3 point threat, Prigoni’s slow release, and the injuries/burying by Woodson of Copeland and Novak have hurt our spacing against a team where we really need it. If we can get Copeland/Novak on the court, particularly with the 2nd unit but even with the rest of the first, Felton, Smith and Melo will have more space and will score more.

    11. Z-man

      My theory is that the Knicks are capable of going to a different level when they need to, like they did in game 2 of this series and game 6 of the last series. I don’t believe that the Pacers have another level to go to offensively, as we do. If this theory holds true, we should win on Tuesday, on our way to an epic game 7 that we also win.

      If not, we’re f–ked!

    12. mr.JayP

      david:
      If you think what Melo has faced is “one on one” defense, you need to have you eyes checked.Just like the Celtics series, there is a man cheating over, not trapping but definitely there influencing his options.

      The death of Kidd as a 3 point threat, Prigoni’s slow release, and the injuries/burying by Woodson of Copeland and Novak have hurt our spacing against a team where we really need it.If we can get Copeland/Novak on the court, particularly with the 2nd unit but even with the rest of the first, Felton, Smith and Melo will have more space and will score more.

      i honestly dont understand how woody doesnt have set plays for either copeland or novak. but than again, its woody, he doesnt like to make adjustments…..

      ill even say that i rather see more novak/cope than a legless kidd or bad jr. atleast they can pull a defender and leave him on the 3pt line.

    13. Tony Pena

      Well, last game it was more Prigioni. Now it’s more Copeland. I agree he should play more, but it’s not so simple that just putting him in he’s going to solve their defense… Z-man I agree, the Knicks need to attack that weak-ass offense.

    14. mr.JayP

      Tony Pena:
      Well, last game it was more Prigioni. Now it’s more Copeland. I agree he should play more, but it’s not so simple that just putting him in he’s going to solve their defense… Z-man I agree, the Knicks need to attack that weak-ass offense.

      Prigs is playing decently as a back up pg. Even if he doesn’t want to take a shot.

      im not saying Cope or Novak is going to be able to break down their D, but c’mon. Kidd is not producing any pt’s, we are struggling on Offense not Defense. i doubt that IND is going to score 10-15 more pts because we have our weaker Defenders in. But woody has to do something, he cannot and should not rely on melo or even Jr to carry the offense. Kidd’s/ty lack of offense or even shot attempts has to have an affect on the floor spacing and how defense’s react.

      Again, is woody good enough to make adjustments? No…

      If shump and Felton would have hit their shots we would have won.

    15. Tony Pena

      I think the knicks learned during the last third of the season that if they could just hold teams, their offense would eventually spill. Unfortunately that’s happened only once in the series.

    16. d-mar

      Do you guys think there was any correlation between the Pacers shooting 33 three pointers (and missing 23) and their 18 offensive rebounds? Or did we just get outworked on the glass? Wasn’t able to see most of the game so just curious how Indy had such a huge rebounding advantage and whether it will or will not be a continuing problem.

    17. Tony Pena

      I was a little intoxicated so I can’t remember exactly, but I think they were attacking the rim and a second Pacer would come in pull the misses. And add a few long, lucky bounces that went right back to the perimeter guys. But good point, something that can be reined in.

    18. Tony Pena

      Actually, looking at the box score their guards did not get any offensive rebounds. But Hill and Stephenson got 13 defensive rebounds between them.

    19. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      When’s the part where D

      Hubert Davis: I’m not a Melo hater and he’s probably not among the top 5 reasons we’re down in this series.

      But he’s faced single coverage all series and has failed to be good enough to make them pay for that.It just makes those MVP chants and the Garden all the more laughable.

      Great players beat great defenses.

      His eFG% in game 1 was .375 on 43.3 USG%. Game 3: .406 on 33.3 USG%.

      Those numbers will sink any team, regardless of how they’re being put up.

      Game Score is, like PER, highly dependent on volume shooting. No surprise there, as that’s Hollinger’s M.O. Still, game 3 was worse than all but seven of Carmelo’s games during the regular season. Ridiculously bad performance.

      Game 4 against Boston was one of the worst performances in the last ten years of playoff games. During that time, there have been 41 performances in which a player has taken 30 shots or more. According to FG%, Carmelo Anthony ranks dead last among them (by a sizable margin, and his 0 for 7 on 3PA ensures that he would fare no better according to eFG%). Only 3 players accrued 7 TO during those games: Kobe, Vince Carter, and, you guessed it, Carmelo. His 20 FTA were good, but that also means that he used far more than 35 possessions to score 36 points (his USG% was 50 that game).

    20. ruruland

      Melo has played poorly, and he should be taking advantage of the defensive looks he’s been given.

      He’s had four average to good games and five bad ones. It simply isn’t going to cut it.

      So, I don’t have any issue with Jowles and Owen coming out of the woodwork to gloat and have a little bit of fun at our expense. That’s who they are.

      It doesn’t matter that Melo is playing excellent playoff defenses. These are the games where you seperate yourself as a star player that can overcome great defense and lead the team. Melo has that in him. But this is his time and stage. He’s going to have to play great in three of the last 4 games, presumably.

      He knows this is his time. I’m very confident he’s going to respond.

      And yeah, Chandler’s been bad, too. There are systemic issues with the offense Indiana is taking advantage of. At the same time, there are systemic issues with the Pacers the Knicks are capable of exploiting and have through much of the series.

      As pablum as it sounds, it truly is about the greater will.

      And here’s the thing, we’ve only seen Melo, Chandler and the Knicks play one game with their backs against the wall — that was game two.

      That turned out pretty well.

      Maybe you can say the same thing about game six against Boston. That turned out pretty well, too, and interestingly, the Knicks lost their focus once the felt the pressure was off.

      If you think the Knicks are going to lay down the rest of this series or lay another egg from an effort standpoint like they did in games 1 and 3, I think you’d be making a prediction that would fly in the face of the team’s established m.o. all year .

      Their best quarter has been the fourth. They were one of the best comeback teams in the league.

      I think what we saw on Saturday was a team that just wanted to get one game, and at some level, understands that it plays its best when the chips are down.

    21. ruruland

      d-mar: Do you guys think there was any correlation between the Pacers shooting 33 three pointers (and missing 23) and their 18 offensive rebounds? Or did we just get outworked on the glass? Wasn’t able to see most of the game so just curious how Indy had such a huge rebounding advantage and whether it will or will not be a continuing problem.

      Pretty much every Pacer outworked every Knick, from Chandler and Melo to all the guards. Go back and you’ll see that a lot of players were responsible for allowing deep position.

      To me, that emboldened the Pacers defensively and deflated the Knicks confidence rotations and creating quality offense.

      Vogel, if you read between the lines in his pressers, has basically told his team that the series features a contrast of mismatches, and whichever team works hardest to exploit theirs will win.

      The way you beat a team that is so focused on offensive rebounding is to run back at them. The Knicks CAN do that. They have to do that.

      The Pacers still have David West on the floor. Still have a center that will not contest a shot outside of the restricted area or come out in any pick and role, and still lack a consistent quality shot-creator.

      They’re still a bad offensive team that, despite very average defensive perfomances from the Knicks the last two games, have a net 94.5 offensive rating the last two games — that’s with incredible offensive rebounding, decent (for them) 3-point shooting, and a great game from Hibbert.

      One win and it’s a three game series with two at home.

      Buck the fuck up for once.

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