Comments on: Knicks Morning News (Sunday, Jul 01 2012)

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:42:09 +0000

jon abbey: I’m a Knicks fan, so yes. I think Grunwald is being an idiot by not wrapping up Lin while Toronto is still going after Nash, taking a huge chance that I’m not sure the franchise can afford…

Agreed

By: yehudi3000

yehudi3000 — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:40:20 +0000

well, i love lin, but how can u give such a huge contract to somone who only played 20 games and got injured?

i hope the knicks wont take their time and sign him now.

also, when you thing about it, i think lin will make more money as a knick, even if he takes 15 mill less contract. new york lights will get him the money.

By: jon abbey

jon abbey — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:46:01 +0000

BigBlueAL: Can you imagine not getting Nash and losing Lin??

I'm a Knicks fan, so yes. I think Grunwald is being an idiot by not wrapping up Lin while Toronto is still going after Nash, taking a huge chance that I'm not sure the franchise can afford...

By: Shad0wF0x

Shad0wF0x — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 07:01:09 +0000

As much as people don’t like the Yankees, at this point I don’t really care. If the Knicks can buy their way to keep players and win, it doesn’t really matter to me.

By: BigBlueAL

BigBlueAL — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 04:20:39 +0000

Yeah this whole “poison pill” in these Gilbert Arenas provision contract offers as Hollinger calls it is really stupid. Knicks might seriously have to think about letting Lin go if this happens. Can you imagine not getting Nash and losing Lin??

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 04:14:16 +0000

Wow, Gerald Wallace got $40 million for four years! I guess he knew how desperately New Jersey did not want to lose him after giving up a top draft pick for him.

Plus, Hibbert got signed to a MAX offer sheet from Portland. Indiana has to match, but ouch.

Houston made all of these moves to sign Omer Asik? Seriously? I mean, I like Asik a lot, but Houston gave up a lot of players for seemingly no pay-off so far. By the way, the Asik contract (3 years/$25 million) is under the Gilbert Arenas provision, so the Bulls are able to match it for $5 million this year and the next and then the third year will be for $15 million. That’s the kind of contract the Raptors can hit the Knicks with if they so choose with Lin.

Andre Miller re-signed with the Nuggets for three years/$9 million. That’s a great value.

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 03:35:54 +0000

And what about takin a flier on Roy? If he can play 15-20 minutes a nite he’d be a GREAT replacement for JR. With his knees I can’t see him signing for more than the 1.4 mil

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 03:22:16 +0000

OK..I’m finally catching up and reading some of these comments on this thread. My .02 on this Nash thing…
Steve Nash is a defensive sieve sharp shooting makes everyone wayyyyy more effective point guard genius! In my mind he and CP3 are by far the cream of the PG crop..yes that much better at that position than Rose and Westbrook. Rose is close tho. But he’s 38 and while Lin could learn alot from him..no way I’d do this deal…if PHX wants Shump. I’d even be reluctant to add Nash if they don’t want Shump as adding him would seriously cramp our roster flexibility. Hear me out. I admit I do believe Nash would put us right there with Miami..or damn close. The difference is FA’s r more likely 2 wanna play with LBJ and Wade than they are with Nash, Melo and Stat for 2 reasons: our biggest offensive threats are widely regarded as ball stoppers and Dolan’s policies. On the other hand..LBJ and Wade love to pass. We can’t really expect to find the role players that we need to slide in between Nash, Lin, Melo, Stat and Chandler super cheap, ‘cept Novak and JJ. I don’t see anybody out there willing to sacrifice THAT much money and THAT much opportunity to shine to play for us, our superstars don’t share as well as Miami’s. Even the incomparable Steve Nash can’t overcome that. Now i’m not saying that to say absolutely no to Nash..but we’d hafta be absolutely sure he’s the missing link. Which is why I think Hinrich and a Hickson type is the better FA option. Now as far as convincing PHX to deal Nash our way..I don’t see y they’d hafta have Shump. Listen..if u lose Nash ur in official “rebuilding for a few seasons” mode. Which means they would and should be more interested in shaving salary since they’d be getting a player like Fields who can play in that system. Why add Shump as well? He’s likely gonna cost them more than they’d wanna pay since Fields can get 5 mil. We’ve got leverage Shump or no Shump in this deal

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 01:08:24 +0000

I’m not gonna re-hash what the current roster needs to do..that has been well documented. So I think after goin back and forth I would like to see this:
Sign a big for 3 mil as insurance for Tyson and Stat as Tyson will be starting for Team USA and has never been known as a model of good health tho he surprisingly stayed healthy in last season’s back to back to back debacle..preferrably Kaman or Hickson..Kaman problee won’t but Hickson just might.
Sign Hinrich for the 1.4 mil exception or vet minimum (whichever is more accurate if they r not the same lol..I should already know better
Grab Hollis Thompson and Machado as UDFA’s before we lose em.
Bring back JJ and JR along with the inevitable re-signing of Lin and Fields
Roster set

By: yoda4554

yoda4554 — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 00:42:10 +0000

I’m not sure why people think Anthony had an uncharacteristically poor season. Adjust for league-wide lockout rust, and his season looks pretty much like a typical Melo year: high usage, average efficiency, solid passing/rebounding for a 3, on-and-off defense. He had an excellent run in the first ~8-10 games under D’Antoni before being really bad through the beginning ~10 games of Woodson’s tenure and finishing with a pretty strong ~12-15 final games. This is how he rolls.

Smith and Stoudemire’s seasons were more uncharacteristic, but not by much. Smith, who seems pretty much an unregenerate knucklehead, has seen his shooting percentages plummet since he was in his early twenties, and Stoudemire’s season is pretty much consistent with the prior year, post-Melo, as well as the pre-D’Antoni Phoenix years.

People who are calling 50-55 wins next year, on the premise that we somehow had an uncharacteristically unlucky season, sound like the people who were treating last year’s division as a lock and 40-45 wins as a given. We were barely in the top 10 last year by days lost to injury, IIRC; it just seemed worse because we had so little (and such hastily-cobbled-together) depth. (Our best player only missed three games to injury, for instance.) We had players play unexpectedly poorly, but others play unexpectedly well.

It is a good sign that the team was as dominant as it was post-Woodson. But it’s a bad sign that none of the team’s top 3 offensive options for next year (Anthony, Stoudemire, Lin) only played well when the others were injured or underperforming; and that in the four playoff games Anthony and Stoudemire played together, Melo took three times as many shots, despite connecting on much worse percentages; and that a team that relied as heavily on its defense as we did gave up 117 points per game in the three regular-season games missed by one notoriously injury-prone player.