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Knicks Morning News (Sunday, Jan 13 2013)

  • [New York Post] Alarming trend must end now (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:15:45 -0500)
    Mike Woodson should stop at the Duane Reade near the Garden, buy the biggest alarm clock he can find and bring into the locker room for today’s noon start against lowly New Orleans.
    His Knicks need to wake up.
    They simply haven’t been ready to play at the…

  • [New York Post] Shumpert eyes London (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:42:58 -0500)
    All indications are the Knicks not only will see the Pistons and the sights while in London, but Iman Shumpert as well.
    Shumpert, who tore his left ACL and meniscus in the playoffs last April, could make his long-awaited season debut when the Knicks play in London on Thursday, coach…

  • [New York Post] Anthony: Facing Hornets â??a must win for us’ (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:35:32 -0500)
    It wasn’t all that long ago that descriptions like “championship contendersâ? were applied to the Knicks.
    Now, with the season not even half over, their best player calls today’s meeting in the Garden against the team with the worst record in the West a “must win.â?
    That’s…

  • [New York Times] Marion Leads Mavs in 104-83 Win Over Grizzlies (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 06:01:53 GMT)
    Dirk Nowitzki is coming along gradually. Maybe the Dallas Mavericks are, too.

  • [New York Times] Chalmers Hits 10 3-Pointers as Heat Rout Kings (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:55:49 GMT)
    Mario Chalmers had career highs with 10 3-pointers and 34 points to lead the Miami Heat to a 128-99 victory over the Sacramento Kings on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Suns Scorch Bulls to End Road Drought (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:40:25 GMT)
    Luis Scola and the fast-paced Phoenix Suns heaved a collective sigh of relief after snapping a 12-game road losing streak with a rousing 97-81 win over the Chicago Bulls on Saturday.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Camby Adds Foot Injury to Knicks’ List of Woes (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 05:28:58 GMT)
    The Knicks found themselves short-handed again Friday night with Marcus Camby out two to four weeks with a foot injury.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Bryant Now Deals With Mediocrity (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:26:36 GMT)
    A success at every level, the Lakers’ Kobe Bryant has had little experience with struggling on the basketball court.

  • [New York Times] Scola Scores 22 as Suns Beat Bulls 97-81 (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:07:47 GMT)
    Luis Scola scored 22 points to help the Phoenix Suns beat the Chicago Bulls 97-81 Saturday night, snapping a five-game losing streak.

  • [New York Times] Suns Scorch Bulls to End Road Losing Streak (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:55:25 GMT)
    Luis Scola and the fast-paced Phoenix Suns snapped a 12-game road losing streak with a rousing 97-81 win over the Chicago Bulls on Saturday.

  • [New York Times] 76ers Snap Losing Skid in 107-100 Win Over Rockets (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:16:44 GMT)
    Jrue Holiday scored 30 points, Thaddeus Young had 18 points and 12 rebounds and the Philadelphia 76ers snapped a five-game losing streak with a 107-100 win over the Houston Rockets on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Jefferson Helps Jazz Rally Past Pistons 90-87 (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:10:56 GMT)
    Al Jefferson scored 10 of his 20 points in the third quarter, and the Utah Jazz rallied to beat the Detroit Pistons 90-87 on Saturday night.

  • [New York Times] Hill Scores 19 as Pacers Beat Bobcats 96-88 (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:10:47 GMT)
    George Hill scored 19 points, D.J. Augustin added a season-high 18 and the Indiana Pacers beat the Charlotte Bobcats 96-88 Saturday night for their fourth straight win.

  • [New York Times] Wall Debuts With 14; Wizards Top Hawks 93-83 (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 02:37:31 GMT)
    John Wall gave his teammates a lift with 14 points and four assists in his first game of the season, and the worst-in-NBA Washington Wizards have their first winning streak after a 93-83 victory Saturday night over the Atlanta Hawks.

  • [New York Times] Late Rally Helps Magic Snap Clippers’ Record Streak (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:22:25 GMT)
    The high-flying Los Angeles Clippers came down to earth with an unexpected late bump in a 104-101 loss to the Orlando Magic on Saturday, their first defeat at home after a franchise record 13-game win streak.

  • [New York Times] Finally Pointed in Right Direction, Nets Have No Interest in Looking Back (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:11:50 GMT)
    The rebuilt and rebranded Nets have won five in a row to improve to 7-1 under Coach P. J. Carlesimo.

  • [New York Times] Knicks Use Day of Rest to Focus on Defense (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:17:04 GMT)
    Coach Mike Woodson said he would not push the Knicks, the oldest team in the league, by holding practice on a day of rest after back-to-back games. But after three straight losses, he changed his mind.

  • [New York Newsday] Mike Woodson wants to see more toughness from Knicks (Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:14:41 EST)
    Mike Woodson doesn't like the way the Knicks are allowing themselves to be pushed around and get "out-toughed," and he said it's about time they showed some resistance.

  • 103 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Sunday, Jan 13 2013)

    1. johnlocke

      These 1 quarter starts have been demoralizing. We dont have an adequate 2. Start JR!!! He can also help Kidd bring the ball up.

    2. JK47

      This team just cannot get a stop in the first quarter.

      It’s a joke already. This team has a very limited ceiling because they simply don’t defend. New Orleans is shooting 70% in this game and the Knicks are playing 100% hero-ball on the offensive end.

      The Knicks are a bad team right now, there’s no sugarcoating it.

    3. johnlocke

      I’d like to see some more Melo post ups on offense. On defense Chandler and Melo need to lead. Kidd has been playing like crap recently

    4. Nick C.

      They had a segment with Melo after a break where he said the problem on defense was “not communicating and getting away from our schemes. ” what that means or who is open to interpretation.

    5. d-mar

      I’m a big Melo fan, but that last sequence was horrendous – he gets blocked on one end, doesn’t get back on the other, Gordon misses a wide open 3, gets his own rebound and ends up scoring underneath – all while Melo is basically standing at midcourt. Just unacceptable

    6. Douglas

      Nick C.:
      They had a segment with Melo after a break where he said the problem on defense was “not communicating and getting away from our schemes. ” what that means or who is open to interpretation.

      Seemed to me like they’re missing Sheed.

    7. JK47

      Eric Gordon’s return means the worst player in the NBA, Austin Rivers, gets DNPs every game. This has immensely improved the Hornets as a team.

    8. Nick C.

      Re: the difference between starting and coming off the bench. Amare scored over Jason Smith (PF-Ryan Anderson) had he started he would have been defended by Robin Lopez and/or Anthony Davis. (I know cherry picking)

    9. dogrufus

      Teams I’m convinced are worlds better than us and that we have zero chance of beating in a series:

      Miami
      Chicago (even without Rose)
      Indy (even without Granger)
      Boston

      It’s simple: We can’t score on good defenses and we can’t get any stops against anyone at any time.

      Anyone miss Jeremy Lin? I said when we lost him he was the difference in terms of depth between us being an okay team and a great team. Looks like I couldn’t have been more right.

    10. Douglas

      dogrufus: Anyone miss Jeremy Lin? I said when we lost him he was the difference in terms of depth between us being an okay team and a great team. Looks like I couldn’t have been more right.

      SHUT UP I DON’T WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT. *cries*

    11. johnlocke

      Utter stupidity. He needs to be in pass or drive mode today cany hit anything. Momentum killer

      Douglas:
      WHAT IS JR THINKING. OR NOT THINKING.

    12. flossy

      Here’s a radical idea: since Melo and JR have started out 1-12 and Amar’e has already scored on his one attempt in the post and drawn a foul on another possession, maybe, just maybe, try to get him some more shots on the block and get him going on offense?

    13. johnlocke

      Let’s see what the team looks like at full strength before making crazy statements like that…..they’re playing terrible right now without Sheed, Felton and Shumpbut let’s not get carried away

      dogrufus:
      Teams I’m convinced are worlds better than us and that we have zero chance of beating in a series:

      Miami
      Chicago (even without Rose)
      Indy (even without Granger)
      Boston

      It’s simple:We can’t score on good defenses and we can’t get any stops against anyone at any time.

      Anyone miss Jeremy Lin?I said when we lost him he was the difference in terms of depth between us being an okay team and a great team.Looks like I couldn’t have been more right.

    14. dogrufus

      dogrufus:
      Teams I’m convinced are worlds better than us and that we have zero chance of beating in a series:

      Miami
      Chicago (even without Rose)
      Indy (even without Granger)
      Boston

      It’s simple:We can’t score on good defenses and we can’t get any stops against anyone at any time.

      Anyone miss Jeremy Lin?I said when we lost him he was the difference in terms of depth between us being an okay team and a great team.Looks like I couldn’t have been more right.

      I forgot, probably Brookyln too, and maybe the Sixers once Bynum’s back.

    15. johnlocke

      This. JR keeps chucking though

      flossy:
      Here’s a radical idea: since Melo and JR have started out 1-12 and Amar’e has already scored on his one attempt in the post and drawn a foul on another possession, maybe, just maybe, try to get him some more shots on the block and get him going on offense?

    16. dogrufus

      johnlocke:
      Let’s see what the team looks like at full strength before making crazy statements like that…..they’re playing terrible right now without Sheed, Felton and Shumpbut let’s not get carried away

      It’s not a crazy statement. Crazy would be to say the early stretch with 45% 3p shooting and Felton shooting efficiently and Kidd having a career year at 40 is sustainable.

      If your team is completely helpless without a below league avg PG who can’t manage 50% TS, a guy pushing 40 who hasn’t played near a full season in half a decade, and an athleticism-reliant guard who will never be the same, there are significant structural problems.

      This is a 45 win team that started hot, like the Sixers did last year.

      Could have been better if we didn’t let the best PG on the roster walk away for absolutely nothing, leaving us the worst PG rotation in the league. With Felton out it might be the worst in Knick history.

    17. flossy

      Ugh, Novak’s man doubles on Melo in the post and Melo spins in the other direction to brick a fadeaway over both defenders?

    18. flossy

      dogrufus: With Felton out it might be the worst in Knick history.

      I’ll take Priggi Smalls and Kidd over Toney Douglas and Baron Davis eight days a week, but yes, the PG rotation is sub-optimal right now.

    19. johnlocke

      I disagree with this on so many levels so let’s just agree to disagree…I’m sure having Felton, Shump and a healthy Amare back will only hurt the team going forward.

      dogrufus: It’s not a crazy statement.Crazy would be to say the early stretch with 45% 3p shooting and Felton shooting efficiently and Kidd having a career year at 40 is sustainable.

      If your team is completely helpless without a below league avg PG who can’t manage 50% TS, a guy pushing 40 who hasn’t played near a full season in half a decade, and an athleticism-reliant guard who will never be the same, there are significant structural problems.

      This is a 45 win team that started hot, like the Sixers did last year.

      Could have been better if we didn’t let the best PG on the roster walk away for absolutely nothing, leaving us the worst PG rotation in the league.With Felton out it might be the worst in Knick history.

    20. johnlocke

      Melo is playing like a big JR right now. Get your ass in the post and pass when double-teamed Melo. The shots off

    21. Jenny

      Relax. Knicks are going through a rough patch, that’s all. It happens. It’s January. It’s not a big deal. I’m a Heat fan, and the Heat have been also not been playing great ball the past few games. The Celtics are not a better team than the Knicks, and will be fighting for a 7th seed. They’ve had a hot stretch the past few games, but again, teams have hot and cold stretches over the course of 82 games. The Bulls will be a tough out in the playoffs, especially once they have Rose back, but I don’t think they’re better than the Knicks without him. Finally, Lin has not even been that good in Houston, so I highly doubt he is the difference between the Knicks being a great team. Step away from the ledge. The Knicks will be fine.

      dogrufus:
      Teams I’m convinced are worlds better than us and that we have zero chance of beating in a series:

      Miami
      Chicago (even without Rose)
      Indy (even without Granger)
      Boston

      It’s simple:We can’t score on good defenses and we can’t get any stops against anyone at any time.

      Anyone miss Jeremy Lin?I said when we lost him he was the difference in terms of depth between us being an okay team and a great team.Looks like I couldn’t have been more right.

    22. JK47

      Melo is regressing to the mean right before our very eyes.

      I knew the .600 TS% Melo was too good to be true.

    23. flossy

      d-mar:
      KG must have said something really disturbing to Melo, he’s been playing like garbage since Monday.

      Garnett just stomped on his mind grapes

    24. Douglas

      Ronnie Brewer is seriously making a difference out there on defense. Has anyone else noticed NO has only scored 5 points this quarter?

    25. flossy

      Can I just point out how fucked up it is that Shumpert’s season debut will be at 3:00pm on a Thursday?

    26. jon abbey

      flossy:
      Can I just point out how fucked up it is that Shumpert’s season debut will be at 3:00pm on a Thursday?

      on another continent.

      really ugly first six minutes, nice comeback after that.

    27. ruruland

      The Hornets are on a 4 game winning streak, beating San Antonio, Houston, Minnesota and Dallas, the last three by seven points or more.

      With Davis and Gordon, they’re probably something like a 45-48 win team. That’s a pretty good team when healthy. So don’t underestimate playing well against them.

    28. BigBlueAL

      Box score might not make it look so (although he was a team leading +11) but it sure felt like Prigs was the biggest reason the Knicks turned it around in the 1st half. Plus benching JR for most of the 2nd quarter. Melo getting hot helped a bit too lol.

    29. Will the Thrill

      I can’t believe that Amar’e being a better rim protecter than Tyson was even a topic of discussion on this board lol. Rim protecting might not be Tyson’s strong suit, but he is still worlds better in that category than anyone on the team (except Camby).

    30. BigBlueAL

      Will the Thrill:
      I disagree, he is just not getting the ball at all!

      Not talking about offensively. He has been beaten to a few rebounds and is fouling guys left and right. Did play good D on Vazquez at the end of the quarter though when he was isolated on him.

    31. BigBlueAL

      Now Amare with nice help on D forcing a 24 sec violation. I may have spoke too soon lol.

      Nice to see the Knicks pull away with Melo on the bench. Was worried at the start of this quarter.

    32. flossy

      BigBlueAL:
      This might be Amare’s worst game of the season.

      I don’t know, he’s been up and down on defense as usual (but made some good plays recently) and the Knicks are getting all kind of wide open looks from 3 off the Stat/Pablo PnR. It’s amazing how little they look to actually get him shots though.

    33. flossy

      flossy: I don’t know, he’s been up and down on defense as usual (but made some good plays recently) and the Knicks are getting all kind of wide open looks from 3 off the Stat/Pablo PnR.It’s amazing how little they look to actually get him shots though.

      … and then he commits a dumb foul and goes back to the bench, never mind

    34. johnlocke

      I thought Stat looked very good

      flossy: I don’t know, he’s been up and down on defense as usual (but made some good plays recently) and the Knicks are getting all kind of wide open looks from 3 off the Stat/Pablo PnR.It’s amazing how little they look to actually get him shots though.

    35. BigBlueAL

      flossy: I don’t know, he’s been up and down on defense as usual (but made some good plays recently) and the Knicks are getting all kind of wide open looks from 3 off the Stat/Pablo PnR.It’s amazing how little they look to actually get him shots though.

      Totally agree about Amare on offense. He has shown some nice post moves although his jumper is still way off but yeah the lack of touches especially off the PnR is perplexing. Although I guess am glad they arent force feeding him either. Slow process getting him back in the flow, at least physically for the most part he looks good.

    36. yellowboy90

      terrible offensive game by Anthony. HE needs to pass out of the double instead of shooting turning away from the double. That’s a few games in a row where he has stop passing out of the double.

    37. d-mar

      Thank you, schedule makers, this stretch of 2 games in 7 days couldn’t come at a better time (and both very winnable obviously)

    38. Kurt

      BBA: I noticed that, especially at the end, Amar’e had one or two very good traps and a few good rotations. When the guards went the other way on picks they seemed to get Amar’e out of position.

      Regarding the pick and roll, he seemed to be cutting well. But when the defense aggressively stops the roll, you have to take the best shot available and go for the 3 pointers.

      There was a nice play giving to Amar’e on the left elbow making it look like an iso but leading to a handoff.

      His biggest problems were some incredibly stupid fouls.

    39. ruruland

      Kurt:

      His biggest problems were some incredibly stupid fouls.

      Done that his whole career. I thought Amar’e was great.

    40. jon abbey

      we really could use the good JR back ASAP, this one is brutal.

      reShumpification is imminent, at long last.

    41. ruruland

      yellowboy90:
      terrible offensive game by Anthony. HE needs to pass out of the double instead of shooting turning away from the double. That’s a few games in a row where he has stop passing out of the double.

      He forced some today, but did make passes out of the double. But looked to get his shot going and didn’t get after the basket today.

      3 bad games. It’s a rough stretch. Shouldn’t last long.

    42. ruruland

      jon abbey:
      we really could use the good JR back ASAP, this one is brutal.

      reShumpification is imminent, at long last.

      Need to get JR off the ball again. he is tired.

    43. ruruland

      dogrufus: It’s not a crazy statement.Crazy would be to say the early stretch with 45% 3p shooting and Felton shooting efficiently and Kidd having a career year at 40 is sustainable.

      If your team is completely helpless without a below league avg PG who can’t manage 50% TS, a guy pushing 40 who hasn’t played near a full season in half a decade, and an athleticism-reliant guard who will never be the same, there are significant structural problems.

      This is a 45 win team that started hot, like the Sixers did last year.

      Could have been better if we didn’t let the best PG on the roster walk away for absolutely nothing, leaving us the worst PG rotation in the league.With Felton out it might be the worst in Knick history.

      lmao

    44. BigBlueAL

      Kurt:
      BBA: I noticed that, especially at the end, Amar’e had one or two very good traps and a few good rotations. When the guards went the other way on picks they seemed to get Amar’e out of position.

      Regarding the pick and roll, he seemed to be cutting well. But when the defense aggressively stops the roll, you have to take the best shot available and go for the 3 pointers.

      There was a nice play giving to Amar’e on the left elbow making it look like an iso but leading to a handoff.

      His biggest problems were some incredibly stupid fouls.

      I think the thing is as some have mentioned here before is that when Amare makes a mistake on defense it is usually something so bad/stupid it just stands out so much, similar to Novak. You just cant help but notice it so you remember those plays easily. The dumb fouls and getting clearly beat for rebounds at times doesnt help either.

      He did play pretty damn good in the 4th quarter though, next step is for his jumper to return to pre-2012 form.

    45. JK47

      ruruland: Need to get JR off the ball again. he is tired.

      I totally agree with this– JR’s worst tendencies take over when he has the rock in his hand too much.

    46. flossy

      Apparently Amar’e just set a career low for FGA over a four game span, which would help explain why the jumper has looked shaky. Hard to get into rhythm on that shot when you take no more of them than Kurt Thomas.

    47. cgreene

      Just got back from the game. Couple more positive Amare notes. He has not been turning the ball over at a high rate which we all thought would be a major concern. His double teaming and man to man D is actually aggressive so it works and he seems to get involved with forcing some turnovers (yes the rebs and mistakes are glaring.)

      Also bad JR is 3-11 but the new bad JR also gets 4 boards and 6 assists and 2 steals and decent D.

    48. Hubert Davis

      Douglas:
      lol where’s dogrufus and his doom and gloom prognostications?

      Good bounceback win.

      I believe he had to get back to the Atlanta studio. Kenny, Ernie, & Shaq were waiting.

    49. nicos

      cgreene:
      Just got back from the game.Couple more positive Amare notes.He has not been turning the ball over at a high rate which we all thought would be a major concern.

      He’s had zero turnovers in the last four games against some pretty good defensive teams. I’d say a lot of that is a lot of his touches are coming in the post where he’s been getting pretty deep post position and his footwork in the post has been pretty good- thanks Hakeem! It makes you wonder what kind of season he might be having if he hadn’t injured the knee.

    50. Hubert Davis

      Just read Carmelo Anthony told reporters he’s been on a 15 day fast “for spiritual reasons”. That really does explain a lot. You need to be completely resting when you’re doing a fast. Poor shooting = fatigue from undernourishment. Blowing a gasket over KG = increased irritability.

    51. Douglas

      Hubert Davis:
      Just read Carmelo Anthony told reporters he’s been on a 15 day fast “for spiritual reasons”.That really does explain a lot.You need to be completely resting when you’re doing a fast.Poor shooting = fatigue from undernourishment.Blowing a gasket over KG = increased irritability.

      I still don’t understand how Olajuwon did it during Ramadan every year.

    52. ruruland

      Hubert Davis:
      Just read Carmelo Anthony told reporters he’s been on a 15 day fast “for spiritual reasons”.That really does explain a lot.You need to be completely resting when you’re doing a fast.Poor shooting = fatigue from undernourishment.Blowing a gasket over KG = increased irritability.

      No one knows why he does it. I don’t think his people tell him to go on a mid-season cleanse. He’s got a nutritionist.

    53. ruruland

      nicos: He’s had zero turnovers in the last four games against some pretty good defensive teams.I’d say a lot of that is a lot of his touches are coming in the post where he’s been getting pretty deep post position and his footwork in the post has been pretty good- thanks Hakeem!It makes you wonder what kind of season he might be having if he hadn’t injured the knee.

      Right. Really deep position against smaller players, and he’ll always be able to go right by bigger players. I think he looks really good. That go around the basket turnaround 180 is vintage Amar’e (he learned that from Allen Iverson)– a play maybe only Griffin has the athleticism to make among power forwards.

      His finishing and shooting will come.

    54. flossy

      Why oh why would you randomly fast in the middle of the season unless you’re reeeeally observant of a religion that demands it? Just seems crazy to me. Though it would explain why he flipped out when Kevin Garnett mentioned honey nut cheerios. Just imagine what he’d have done if KG had whispered “ham sandwich” in his ear all game long.

    55. Z-man

      Amare is looking better and better. I wonder where he tops out. He seems to have lost lots of lift. If he doesn’t get most of it back, the jumper becomes even more critical.

      I guess we have to remember that he hasn’t played much full-speed basketball since May. Rooting for you, STAT!

    56. ruruland

      flossy:
      Why oh why would you randomly fast in the middle of the season unless you’re reeeeally observant of a religion that demands it?Just seems crazy to me.Though it would explain why he flipped out when Kevin Garnett mentioned honey nut cheerios.Just imagine what he’d have done if KG had whispered “ham sandwich” in his ear all game long.

      haha

    57. Kurt

      keep in min that for a good portion of last season his long back-related layoff made people think he had “lost it,” and that it wasn’t until the end of the season that his lift was back to normal. Since this was a much slower layoff I think this time around the transition will be slower.

      Z-man:
      Amare is looking better and better. I wonder where he tops out. He seems to have lost lots of lift. If he doesn’t get most of it back, the jumper becomes even more critical.

      I guess we have to remember that he hasn’t played much full-speed basketball since May. Rooting for you, STAT!

    58. Brian Cronin

      Thank you, schedule makers, this stretch of 2 games in 7 days couldn’t come at a better time (and both very winnable obviously)

      Right? This is so perfect. They might only play one more game before Felton returns! Talk about great timing!

    59. Frank

      Not sure why our starting lineup (for now) isn’t Prigs, Kidd, Copeland/Brewer, Melo, and Chandler. I truly think James White is useless, and trotting him (or Brewer) out there for a couple minutes just to keep JR on the bench seems silly.

      Prigs is probably better at playing PG (in this system) right now than Kidd is, not just because he seems to be able to turn the corner a little better than Kidd at this point in Kidd’s career, but also because he probably can tolerate the extra needed energy expenditure better than Kidd also. Kidd can go back to his SG / ball-moving ways. Copeland’s versatile offense is huge with this unit, and we all know Melo is better at the 4.

      Then take out Kidd 6 minutes into the game when JR comes in. Play Prigs 10 minutes or so in the first, then bring back Kidd. JR/Melo/Kidd can split primary ballhandler duty until ~5-6 min left in the 2nd, when you can put Prigs/Kidd combo back on the floor together.

      Whatevs – this will all be better when Shump can give us 20 min or so, and then Felton will be back hopefully in 1-2 weeks. can’t wait until Sheed, Felton, and Shump are all available, and we can glue Brewer and White to the bench.

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