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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-404940&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-404940&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JK&#052;&#055;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: If everything breaks right for this team– if Felton has a good season, if Jason Kidd doesn’t fall off a cliff, if Amar’e doesn’t continue to decline, if Melo finally becomes that .180+ WS/48 player, if JR Smith has a breakout season– yeah, sure, this team could be good. But some of those things will probably happen and some won’t. Last preseason we were talking about how Toney Douglas could probably do a pretty good job holding down the PG position until the savior Baron Davis arrived, how Landry Fields was going to bounce back from his rookie wall-induced problems, how Amar’e was going to get back to being a dominant player, how Melo was going to have a career year, etc. Sometimes shit does not go the way you hope it is gonna go. This is truly an abused fanbase. People seem to be excited about a group of players who have zero chance of ever winning a title together, which I just don’t understand. People seem to be satisfied with winning a playoff series or two this season, even though almost every player on this roster is likely to decline over the next few years and this is as good as the team is ever gonna get. I am pretty frustrated that the big master plan for this franchise was to give max contracts to two overrated volume scorers and surround them with players who are ten years past their primes. After a decade plus of miserable basketball, I was hoping for more than this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe the most annoying post I&#039;ve read in a month. Why make yourself and everyone else miserable? 

Here you go: http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-404940" rel="nofollow">JK&#052;&#055;</a></strong>: If everything breaks right for this team– if Felton has a good season, if Jason Kidd doesn’t fall off a cliff, if Amar’e doesn’t continue to decline, if Melo finally becomes that .180+ WS/48 player, if JR Smith has a breakout season– yeah, sure, this team could be good. But some of those things will probably happen and some won’t. Last preseason we were talking about how Toney Douglas could probably do a pretty good job holding down the PG position until the savior Baron Davis arrived, how Landry Fields was going to bounce back from his rookie wall-induced problems, how Amar’e was going to get back to being a dominant player, how Melo was going to have a career year, etc. Sometimes shit does not go the way you hope it is gonna go. This is truly an abused fanbase. People seem to be excited about a group of players who have zero chance of ever winning a title together, which I just don’t understand. People seem to be satisfied with winning a playoff series or two this season, even though almost every player on this roster is likely to decline over the next few years and this is as good as the team is ever gonna get. I am pretty frustrated that the big master plan for this franchise was to give max contracts to two overrated volume scorers and surround them with players who are ten years past their primes. After a decade plus of miserable basketball, I was hoping for more than this.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe the most annoying post I&#8217;ve read in a month. Why make yourself and everyone else miserable? </p>
<p>Here you go: <a href="http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/</a></p>
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		<title>By: JK47</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If everything breaks right for this team-- if Felton has a good season, if Jason Kidd doesn&#039;t fall off a cliff, if Amar&#039;e doesn&#039;t continue to decline, if Melo finally becomes that .180+ WS/48 player, if JR Smith has a breakout season-- yeah, sure, this team could be good.  But some of those things will probably happen and some won&#039;t.  Last preseason we were talking about how Toney Douglas could probably do a pretty good job holding down the PG position until the savior Baron Davis arrived, how Landry Fields was going to bounce back from his rookie wall-induced problems, how Amar&#039;e was going to get back to being a dominant player, how Melo was going to have a career year, etc.  Sometimes shit does not go the way you hope it is gonna go.  

This is truly an abused fanbase.  People seem to be excited about a group of players who have zero chance of ever winning a title together, which I just don&#039;t understand.  People seem to be satisfied with winning a playoff series or two this season, even though almost every player on this roster is likely to decline over the next few years and this is as good as the team is ever gonna get.  I am pretty frustrated that the big master plan for this franchise was to give max contracts to two overrated volume scorers and surround them with players who are ten years past their primes.  

After a decade plus of miserable basketball, I was hoping for more than this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If everything breaks right for this team&#8211; if Felton has a good season, if Jason Kidd doesn&#8217;t fall off a cliff, if Amar&#8217;e doesn&#8217;t continue to decline, if Melo finally becomes that .180+ WS/48 player, if JR Smith has a breakout season&#8211; yeah, sure, this team could be good.  But some of those things will probably happen and some won&#8217;t.  Last preseason we were talking about how Toney Douglas could probably do a pretty good job holding down the PG position until the savior Baron Davis arrived, how Landry Fields was going to bounce back from his rookie wall-induced problems, how Amar&#8217;e was going to get back to being a dominant player, how Melo was going to have a career year, etc.  Sometimes shit does not go the way you hope it is gonna go.  </p>
<p>This is truly an abused fanbase.  People seem to be excited about a group of players who have zero chance of ever winning a title together, which I just don&#8217;t understand.  People seem to be satisfied with winning a playoff series or two this season, even though almost every player on this roster is likely to decline over the next few years and this is as good as the team is ever gonna get.  I am pretty frustrated that the big master plan for this franchise was to give max contracts to two overrated volume scorers and surround them with players who are ten years past their primes.  </p>
<p>After a decade plus of miserable basketball, I was hoping for more than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-404937&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chrisk&#048;&#054;&#056;&#049;&#049;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: LBJ is a pussy. And Udonis Haslem can kiss my ass. I hope I misspelled his name. If they have a prob with that, I’m counting on ‘sheed, tyson and kurt thomas to have my back!! We haven’t been this tough since Mason and the Oak Man&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve been watching a number of vintage &#039;90s games. The guy that stands out the most to me is Mase. He was really, really good, and one terrifying, tough, menacing bastard. His combo of size, speed, strength, ball handling and D was truly freakish.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-404937" rel="nofollow">chrisk&#048;&#054;&#056;&#049;&#049;</a></strong>: LBJ is a pussy. And Udonis Haslem can kiss my ass. I hope I misspelled his name. If they have a prob with that, I’m counting on ‘sheed, tyson and kurt thomas to have my back!! We haven’t been this tough since Mason and the Oak Man</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve been watching a number of vintage &#8217;90s games. The guy that stands out the most to me is Mase. He was really, really good, and one terrifying, tough, menacing bastard. His combo of size, speed, strength, ball handling and D was truly freakish.</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear you, Brian, but the key thing you say is &quot;this will likely be the best this particular group of players will be.&quot; Although I think that Grunwald might come up with some creative ways to improve the team next year, and Shump will be a year older and better, for the most part your point that we are at a peak for the next couple of years is very likely true. Not to mention that teams around us (Chicago, Indiana, Nets, Philly) are also likely to improve after this year. So my hopes for this year are magnified in that sense. Winning a playoff series vs. Philly, Atanta, or Milwaukee won&#039;t do much for me. Beating the Nets or Indiana would be better, but if we went on to lose to Boston in the second round, I would still consider the season to be pretty much a failure.

As a Mets fan, I hear you about the Yankees. However, imho, playoffs are far more predictable in basketball and the better team usually wins. In baseball, it often comes down to hot pitching and unlikely heroes (e.g. 1969 Mets were WAY less talented than the Orioles). I really do believe that we are the second best team on paper in the conference for this year and possibly this year only, and that&#039;s why I would consider anything less than a loss to the Heat in a competitive ECF a huge disappointment. Looking at it another way, to lose to the Heat in the second round, we would probably have had to finish second in the Atlantic, which would indicate a disappointing regular season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, Brian, but the key thing you say is &#8220;this will likely be the best this particular group of players will be.&#8221; Although I think that Grunwald might come up with some creative ways to improve the team next year, and Shump will be a year older and better, for the most part your point that we are at a peak for the next couple of years is very likely true. Not to mention that teams around us (Chicago, Indiana, Nets, Philly) are also likely to improve after this year. So my hopes for this year are magnified in that sense. Winning a playoff series vs. Philly, Atanta, or Milwaukee won&#8217;t do much for me. Beating the Nets or Indiana would be better, but if we went on to lose to Boston in the second round, I would still consider the season to be pretty much a failure.</p>
<p>As a Mets fan, I hear you about the Yankees. However, imho, playoffs are far more predictable in basketball and the better team usually wins. In baseball, it often comes down to hot pitching and unlikely heroes (e.g. 1969 Mets were WAY less talented than the Orioles). I really do believe that we are the second best team on paper in the conference for this year and possibly this year only, and that&#8217;s why I would consider anything less than a loss to the Heat in a competitive ECF a huge disappointment. Looking at it another way, to lose to the Heat in the second round, we would probably have had to finish second in the Atlantic, which would indicate a disappointing regular season.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisk06811</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-404929&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;danvt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
I don’t think the Knicks get by the Heat this year or any until LBJ plays for us.That said, I think we can and should beat the Celtics this year and get a 3 or 4 seed in the playoffs.Then I think we can win two rounds.Carmelo, Amar’e and Chandler have to be dynamic leaders and then everyone else is a role player, and we have some very skilled people at those positions.The Celtics are going to be very good.I’m not underestimating them.Sullinger will be the steal of the draft but I just think we’re better.


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LBJ is a pussy.  And Udonis Haslem can kiss my ass.  I hope I misspelled his name.  

If they have a prob with that, I&#039;m counting on &#039;sheed, tyson and kurt thomas to have my back!!  We haven&#039;t been this tough since Mason and the Oak Man]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-404929" rel="nofollow">danvt</a></strong>:<br />
I don’t think the Knicks get by the Heat this year or any until LBJ plays for us.That said, I think we can and should beat the Celtics this year and get a 3 or 4 seed in the playoffs.Then I think we can win two rounds.Carmelo, Amar’e and Chandler have to be dynamic leaders and then everyone else is a role player, and we have some very skilled people at those positions.The Celtics are going to be very good.I’m not underestimating them.Sullinger will be the steal of the draft but I just think we’re better.</p>
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<p>LBJ is a pussy.  And Udonis Haslem can kiss my ass.  I hope I misspelled his name.  </p>
<p>If they have a prob with that, I&#8217;m counting on &#8216;sheed, tyson and kurt thomas to have my back!!  We haven&#8217;t been this tough since Mason and the Oak Man</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 17:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not sure what you’re saying, Brian. Is it that you hope we aren’t crushed by another early playoff exit, and that anything above that is gravy?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pretty much. 

Heck, I was relatively pumped that we got to actually see a playoff win &lt;em&gt;period&lt;/em&gt; last year. Don&#039;t get me wrong, yes, it would be a disappointment to see them not go further since this will likely be the best this particular group of players will be, but it&#039;s been &lt;strong&gt;twelve years&lt;/strong&gt; since they last won a playoff series, so I&#039;ll take it. I wouldn&#039;t be thrilled, but I&#039;d be happy. Anything after that would just be awesome. Although, yeah, I sure as heck would love it if their second round opponent was not Miami.

I am just going to enjoy being able to watch a team that I can confidently expect to win most nights. It&#039;s been a long time since we actually got to root for a legitimately good Knicks team, so I&#039;m pumped about that. The regular season alone will please me. 

It&#039;s the same for me with the Yankees. I love that they&#039;re routinely good so that every regular season there is a very good chance they&#039;ll be one of the best teams in the league. It&#039;s fun watching your favorite team win a lot. The playoffs are such a crap shoot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m not sure what you’re saying, Brian. Is it that you hope we aren’t crushed by another early playoff exit, and that anything above that is gravy?</p></blockquote>
<p>Pretty much. </p>
<p>Heck, I was relatively pumped that we got to actually see a playoff win <em>period</em> last year. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, yes, it would be a disappointment to see them not go further since this will likely be the best this particular group of players will be, but it&#8217;s been <strong>twelve years</strong> since they last won a playoff series, so I&#8217;ll take it. I wouldn&#8217;t be thrilled, but I&#8217;d be happy. Anything after that would just be awesome. Although, yeah, I sure as heck would love it if their second round opponent was not Miami.</p>
<p>I am just going to enjoy being able to watch a team that I can confidently expect to win most nights. It&#8217;s been a long time since we actually got to root for a legitimately good Knicks team, so I&#8217;m pumped about that. The regular season alone will please me. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same for me with the Yankees. I love that they&#8217;re routinely good so that every regular season there is a very good chance they&#8217;ll be one of the best teams in the league. It&#8217;s fun watching your favorite team win a lot. The playoffs are such a crap shoot.</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...unless, of course, we beat them! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;unless, of course, we beat them! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would also be very disappointed if we play the Heat in the second round. That would probably mean that we finished 4th or below in the conference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also be very disappointed if we play the Heat in the second round. That would probably mean that we finished 4th or below in the conference.</p>
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		<title>By: er</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-404932&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Z&#045;man&lt;/a&gt;
i agree

&lt;/strong&gt;: I’m not sure what you’re saying, Brian. Is it that you hope we aren’t crushed by another early playoff exit, and that anything above that is gravy?


I think that losing in the playoffs to any eastern team other than the Heat would be a massive disappointment.


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<p><strong><a href="#comment-404932" rel="nofollow">Z&#045;man</a><br />
i agree</p>
<p></strong>: I’m not sure what you’re saying, Brian. Is it that you hope we aren’t crushed by another early playoff exit, and that anything above that is gravy?</p>
<p>I think that losing in the playoffs to any eastern team other than the Heat would be a massive disappointment.</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-404931&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brian&#032;Cronin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I sure would like to see the second round this year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re saying, Brian. Is it that you hope we aren&#039;t crushed by another early playoff exit, and that anything above that is gravy?

I think that losing in the playoffs to any eastern team other than the Heat would be a massive disappointment.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-404931" rel="nofollow">Brian&#032;Cronin</a></strong>: I sure would like to see the second round this year.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re saying, Brian. Is it that you hope we aren&#8217;t crushed by another early playoff exit, and that anything above that is gravy?</p>
<p>I think that losing in the playoffs to any eastern team other than the Heat would be a massive disappointment.</p>
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