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Knicks Morning News (Saturday, Nov 24 2012)

  • [New York Post] Knicks give Lindefensible effort in loss to Rockets (Sat, 24 Nov 2012 06:17:16 -0500)
    HOUSTON â?? This was Lindefensible.
    With all of the magical qualities Linsanity was supposed to possess, who knew one of them would be getting the Knicks to stop playing any defense?
    The Knicks may well be better off without Jeremy Lin, but certainly not Friday night in a 131-103 disgrace to…

  • [New York Post] Camby odd man out (Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:26:34 -0500)
    HOUSTON â?? Rasheed Wallace missed last night’s 131-103 loss to the Rockets with a sore foot, the Knicks announced 20 minutes before tip-off. That should have meant a chance for Marcus Camby to actually play in his new hometown, but he never left the bench and remains in an odd…

  • [New York Post] Win perfect tonic for Lin (Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:26:34 -0500)
    HOUSTON â?? Jeremy Lin said last night he probably never will recreate the sensation of Linsanity, but at least a 131-103 victory over the Knicks was a major confidence-boosting step for the Rockets point guard toward getting out of his slump.
    Lin and Houston won the game, even if he lost…

  • [New York Post] Identity crisis dulls early-season hope (Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:16:10 -0500)
    HOUSTON â?? First, the good news: it is unlikely the Knicks are going to spend any time wringing their hands that Jeremy Lin plies his trade for the Rockets. That applies to all but the most ardent disciples of Linsanity among the fan base, too.
    The bad?
    How much time do…

  • [New York Daily News] Woodson: Jeremy’s OK, my guys are better (Sat, 24 Nov 2012 05:59:19 GMT)
    Maybe in the end the question wasn’t whether Carmelo Anthony could have coexisted with Jeremy Lin, but whether Mike Woodson could have accepted Lin as his starting point guard.

  • [New York Daily News] Lin, Rockets dish Knicks’ second straight loss (Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:02:22 GMT)
    It wasn’t Linsanity that got the Knicks but rather their unwillingness to defend, rebound and above all else maintain their composure. From a Knicks perspective, this was insanity and embarrassing in every way imaginable.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] No sign of Camby in Sheed's stead (Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:41:13 EDT)
    HOUSTON — Rasheed Wallace did not play on Friday due to a sore left foot.
    With Wallace out, it would seem like a perfect time to get Marcus Camby into the lineup. But Camby was a DNP against Houston.
    Mike Woodson said before the game that the 38-year-old veteran was still working his way into game shape.
    “We haven’t had a chance to practice. He’s still doing his conditioning work every day,” Woodson said. “But it’s different, to be able to get out on the practice floor as a unit and run up and down and do different things.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Knicks' D? 'Unacceptable,' says Woodson (Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:23:47 EDT)
    HOUSTON — Awful. Unacceptable. Frustrating.
    Those were the words flying around the New York Knicks’ locker room late Friday night. And it had nothing to do with losing to Jeremy Lin.
    It was all about getting embarrassed on defense in a 28-point loss to Lin’s Houston Rockets.
    “It’s unacceptable,” a weary Mike Woodson said after the Knicks’ loss in Houston. “An awful, awful performance on our part.”
    Just how bad was it? The Knicks gave up a season-high 131 points against Houston, the most points they’d allowed in Woodson’s 39 games as head coach (playoffs included).

  • [New York Newsday] Defenseless Knicks fall to Rockets, 131-103 (Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:32:40 EST)
    Jeremy Lin got to the basket with the ease and flair he showed last season as a Knick. Carmelo Anthony also had some moments that reminded you of last season — when Mike D'Antoni was the coach.

  • 8 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Saturday, Nov 24 2012)

    1. Z-man

      Some observations re: the Rockets:

      James Harden is worth a max contract, needs to work on some things but is a machine on O

      Chandler Parsons is a very, very good offensive player; he has a beautiful stroke and looks like a smart all-around player. Maybe some issues on D, but definitely a very solid starting SF.

      I’m not sold on Asik yet (did I hear Clyde call him Hashish?)but he clearly got the better of Chandler last night.

      Patterson-Morris PF combo is at least servicable.

      Lin showed some signs, but also had some of those “what the hell is he doing?” moments. To be fair, so did Felton.

      I have to say, I felt good for TD, despite how badly he played for us I always liked him.

      Honestly, I think the Rockets are in pretty good shape going forward, and I can see them winning 35-40 games this year.

    2. StatsTeacher

      Z-man — very fair considering you have been dubious of Lin. The Rockets Board was going nuts when Lin assisted TD on a 3 and TD gave some sort of stare down to the Knicks bench. Lol. Asik has hands of stone, and you really do have to adjust Lin’s assist #’s up by 2 or 3 every game ’cause that is how many times Asik bobbles/misses/passes away a ball that Tyson would throw down with savageness that Asik simply can’t call up.

    3. Z-man

      I have consistently said the following about Lin:

      He is an excellent passer
      He is very athletic…not elite but up there…when healthy
      He is much stronger dribbling right than left, which is not a good thing for a PG
      He is not a good shooter
      He is turnover prone, especially vs. good defensive team
      He has durability concerns due to the way he plays (see Jon abbey)
      He is a suspect defender (man to man and PnR)
      He has good hands

      I think people misunderstand my criticism, really, my only point has been to rebut those that have insisted that signing him was a no-brainier, or that he is clearly better (both for this team and in general) than Felton, or that Linsanity was a large enough sample to conclude that Lin is anything above a middling starter.

    4. ruruland

      Z-man:
      Some observations re: the Rockets:

      James Harden is worth a max contract, needs to work on some things but is a machine on O

      Chandler Parsons is a very, very good offensive player; he has a beautiful stroke and looks like a smart all-around player. Maybe some issues on D, but definitely a very solid starting SF.

      I’m not sold on Asik yet (did I hear Clyde call him Hashish?)but he clearly got the better of Chandler last night.

      Patterson-Morris PF combo is at least servicable.

      Lin showed some signs, but also had some of those “what the hell is he doing?” moments. To be fair, so did Felton.

      I have to say, I felt good for TD, despite how badly he played for us I always liked him.

      Honestly, I think the Rockets are in pretty good shape going forward, and I can see them winning 35-40 games this year.

      If Parsons is legit than they’ll make the playoffs.

    5. StatsTeacher

      Z-man — do you think Lin’s shot will come around when his knee is really healed, or is he this bad a shooter? I hope it improves, of course. BTW I think people are too harsh on Brewer for that same reason. He just needs a month of b-ball before people get pissed at him, he is a great defender when healthy.

      Ruru — hope you are right, but the west is a total clusterfuck, while the East is very lacking after Mia + NYK. Who are the 8 playoff teams in the West, care to go out on a limb?

    6. Z-man

      StatsTeacher:
      Z-man — do you think Lin’s shot will come around when his knee is really healed, or is he this bad a shooter?I hope it improves, of course.BTW I think people are too harsh on Brewer for that same reason.He just needs a month of b-ball before people get pissed at him, he is a great defender when healthy.

      Ruru — hope you are right, but the west is a total clusterfuck, while the East is very lacking after Mia + NYK.Who are the 8 playoff teams in the West, care to go out on a limb?

      My guess is that it will take a few years before he improves much, kind of like it took Kidd a while. I say this because 1) he is 24, and 2) he has never shot very well for a guard even during his 4 years at Harvard vs. inferior competition. His mechanics seem fine, so it seems like a consistency thing. Let’s face it, he and all NBA players have been practicing shooting pretty much their whole lives. For the most part,a either they can or they can’t, and additional practice won’t make a dramatic difference. However, shot selection can really help, if Lin can define a few spots where he shoots best from and work from those spots out, I can see him developing over time.

      The issue for him here was that immediate results were to be demanded in our win now mode, and if he regressed and was benched or booed or resented by teammates or whatever, it could have really set him back. Houston is a great situation for him to work out the kinks for a couple of years, physically, mentally and skill wise.

    7. StatsTeacher

      I agree; hopefully sooner though — maybe about April, then have a nice summer to work on that shot. I wonder how patient Houston really is. The play by play guys (mostly Drexler, a surprisingly idiotic observer of bball) keeps saying “In the playoffs”. They’ll be lucky to make the playoffs, lot of guns in the West.

    8. jon abbey

      so one thing we’ve learned is that Marcus Camby’s house evidently doles out weapons-grade levels of tryptophan. back to work tomorrow, boys!

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