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Knicks Morning News (Saturday, May 26 2012)

  • [New York Times] Mike Woodson Hired as Knicks’ Coach (Sat, 26 May 2012 05:00:08 GMT)
    The team officially lifted Mike Woodson’s interim title and signed him to a multiyear contract — the reward for salvaging a seemingly dismal season and guiding the Knicks into the playoffs.

  • [New York Times] On Basketball: Hiring Woodson the Logical Move for Knicks (Sat, 26 May 2012 05:30:11 GMT)
    Madison Square Garden has a long history of dysfunction, but the hiring of Mike Woodson as the Knicks’ coach might put a stop to that.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Playoffs – 76ers Bring Back Memories of ’99 Knicks (Sat, 26 May 2012 07:20:12 GMT)
    In 1999, another lockout-shortened season, the Knicks were an eighth seed that upset a No. 1. The Knicks made it to the finals that year. Philadelphia has a chance to do the same.

  • [New York Times] J.R. Smith Arrested in Miami Beach (Sat, 26 May 2012 05:20:07 GMT)
    The Knicks guard J.R. Smith was arrested Thursday in Florida for failing to appear in court. He has a history of legal problems.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Liberty Drop Fourth Straight (Sat, 26 May 2012 05:10:06 GMT)
    Angel McCoughtry scored 23 points, and the Atlanta Dream won their home opener, 100-74, over the Liberty.

  • [New York Times] Game 6: Sixers 82, Celtics 75: Sixers Prevail and Force Game 7 in Boston (Sat, 26 May 2012 06:00:32 GMT)
    Philadelphia, led by Jrue Holiday, outscored the Celtics by 10 points after halftime as the Sixers won at home to force the first Game 7 between the old rivals since 1982.

  • [New York Times] Knicks Give Coach Mike Woodson Multiyear Extension (Sat, 26 May 2012 00:06:13 GMT)
    Mike Woodson, who led the Knicks to an 18-6 record after replacing Mike D’Antoni, will return as the franchise’s coach after leading them to their first playoff victory in 11 years.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: A Veteran Stabilizes the Young Sixers (Sat, 26 May 2012 02:51:05 GMT)
    Elton Brand, 33, was once seen as a free-agent disappointment, but he has found his role in Philadelphia.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Leading Off: Just the Two of Us (Sat, 26 May 2012 02:56:54 GMT)
    Dwyane Wade and LeBron James dominate. The Sixers and Celtics will play a Game 7. And Craig Sager hits a high note.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks, Woodson agree on three-year extension (Sat, 26 May 2012 04:31:55 GMT)
    Garden Chairman James Dolan is confident that Mike Woodson is the right man to lead a franchise that hasn’t won a playoff series in 12 years.

  • [New York Post] Knicks ignore Phil, name Woody coach (Sat, 26 May 2012 03:05:33 -0500)
    Why not Phil?
    With Mike Woodson officially named Knicks head coach last night, general manager Glen Grunwald answered the $10 million per year question on why he didn’t reach out to Phil Jackson to see if he could lure the Zen Master and his NBA-record 11 coaching titles to…

  • [New York Post] Garden promotes a company man (Sat, 26 May 2012 02:54:25 -0500)
    It was Glen Grunwald who brought up the name before it could even be tossed at him.
    “There were a lot of coaches, if we’d opened up this search, we would have reached out to,â? the Knicks general manager said last night. “Namely, Phil Jackson.â?
    If there was a…

  • [New York Post] Grunwald wants more Linsanity (Sat, 26 May 2012 02:36:20 -0500)
    Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald sounded all in on Linsanity.Although Jeremy Lin’s agent, Roger Montgomery, does not expect an easy negotiation beginning July 1, Grunwald said he can’t imagine Lin not returning because he’s a restricted free agent and the club can match any offer. However…

  • [New York Post] Listen to Larry: You gotta get along with Dolan (Sat, 26 May 2012 02:36:08 -0500)
    New SMU coach Larry Brown said his primary advice to Mike Woodson is to get along with Knicks owner James Dolan.
    Brown said that’s his lone regret from his disastrous season with the Knicks and he believes Woodson won’t make the same mistake. Brown also told The Post…

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] The details on Woodson's deal (Sat, 26 May 2012 02:18:19 EDT)
    The Knicks did not disclose terms of their deal with Mike Woodson, but sources told ESPNNewYork.com’s Stephen A. Smith that Woodson’s contract includes two guaranteed years and a third-year option, worth approximately $4 million per season.
    It’s significant that Woodson has the opportunity to coach three seasons.
    Why?
    Amare Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony and Tyson Chandler are all under contract for the next three seasons. All three have shown support for Woodson.

  • 40 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Saturday, May 26 2012)

    1. KnickfaninNJ

      I would like to continue the discussion from last night. Shawn’s Williams was hired by NJ for slightly more than $3M, and I think Novak is more marketable than Williams. So perhaps he could get offered significantly more, which would be bad for the Knicks. Does anyone have any counter examples suggesting he will get less?

    2. Z-man

      Seth from P&T summed up my feelings with this exerpt from his post:

      “So, I recognize and share everybody’s concerns with both the motivation behind this extension and whether Woodson is really the man for the job. On the other hand, I’m really into the idea of keeping things as is, sticking with people through their struggles and mistakes, and allowing the time and stability necessary for discrete parts to coalesce. If the team sputters, you wait. If it continues to lag, you tinker. If it fails altogether, you allow it to expire and start over instead of buying shiny toys to patch the holes on the fly. I look around the league and see very few elite teams that coasted right from conception to contention. Maybe this isn’t the right group of guys and maybe Woodson isn’t the right coach to lead them, but we won’t know unless they let the thing run its course.”

    3. Owen

      Well, I would say we kind of know what we are. We are a 50 win team next year with a punchers chance at making a conference finals. Our three most important pieces don’t really work together all that well. It’s not like we put Rondo, Garnett, Allen and Pierce together. And no one on the team is the kind of omni dimensional talent who can make everything work.

      It’s an upgrade from the last ten years. But some of us will be left wanting more I think and I bet a year from now we will be talking about blowing it up.

      We are better than the Nets, that is for sure. Apparently they turned down Gasol for Deron. I guess once you have a Lopez in the fold who needs a Gasol.

      ;-)

      Although I suppose turning that deal down makes sense, I don’t really know….

      http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/19157664

    4. 2FOR18

      Since a couple of you have mentioned Marcus Denmon, here’s his write-up on draft express. Basically, a great spot up shooter (47.5 FG% on jumpers!) and willing defender, but undersized for the 2 and not enough of a creator for the 1. They have him going #59 to, of course, the Spurs, though their current mock draft has the caveat that it doesn’t take into account team needs.

      http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marcus-Denmon-6491/

    5. 2FOR18

      Owen:
      Well, I would say we kind of know what we are. We are a 50 win team next year with a punchers chance at making a conference finals. Our three most important pieces don’t really work together all that well. It’s not like we put Rondo, Garnett, Allen and Pierce together. And no one on the team is the kind of omni dimensional talent who can make everything work.

      It’s an upgrade from the last ten years. But some of us will be left wanting more I think and I bet a year from now we will be talking about blowing it up.

      We are better than the Nets, that is for sure. Apparently they turned down Gasol for Deron. I guess once you have a Lopez in the fold who needs a Gasol.

      ;-)

      Although I suppose turning that deal down makes sense, I don’t really know….

      http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/19157664

      I still say we can trick the Nets into taking Amare since they need to make a splash, and because they have a ton of cap space they have to fill somehow. Nets S&T G Wallace and Humphries for Amare.

    6. Z-man

      Owen, the smart money is with your prediction. Unlike the Isiah days, we are actually thinking that a 48-win season would be a disappointment.

      I agree that Amare-Melo-Chandler-Lin (or even Nash) are not ’08 Garnett-Pierce-Allen-Rondo. I do think that the Knicks can be really good and really fun to watch and to root for, if:

      Either Lin re-signs and live up to the promise pof Linsanity, or Nash is signed and stays reasonably healthy for 2+ seasons

      Amare figures out what is wrong with his back (or whatever it is that robbed him of his explosiveness) and gets it fixed

      Shump recovers fully from ACL surgery and plays at least as well as he did in the last month of the season

      Fields fixes whatever is wrond with his broken shot

      Jeffries fixes his bum knee and gives us what he gave us when he was healthy

      Jorts does this summer whatever Lin did last summer and becomes a solid 2-way rotation player

      Jerome Jordan becomes a solid backup center (I see no reason why he cant become at least as servicable as JaVale McGee)

      TD figures out how to become a rotation player again

      Novak is somehow re-signed

      JR opts out (I think that overall, he’s a detriment)

      Some “out of the blue” move fills our gaping holes at backup 1 and 2, especially guys that can shoot with consistency.

      If we stay healthy and most of these things happen, we should be a handful for anybody. If few of these things happen, or if a key player (Melo, Chandler, or PG) gets seriously injured, we might be in the same boat next year as we were this year, struggling for a low playoff seed. 48-52 wins seems likely, but I could see us finishing with anywhere from 42-58 wins. Anything above that is a miracle, anything below that would be a disaster.

    7. Loathing

      “Out of the Blue” might come at draft time…remember, this team has a penchant for buying draft picks…Moe Harkless at #31 from Charlotte?

    8. Z-man

      I also think that no matter what, we have a 3 year window with this team, at which time the big 3 contracts all fall off the books. In a way, that is encouraging. Even after 2 seasons, Melo and Chandler will have some trade value and Amare will be at least a big expiring contract. The key for now is not to screw up things the 2015 FA/draft/cap season.

      I see this team being something like a better version of the Bernard King team of 1983. You kinda knew that the team wasn’t a title contender, but I can’t overstate the thrill of watching Bernard go off night after night, and then beating the Pistons in an epic OT game 5, followed by an epic 7-game series against one of the greatest teams in b-ball history. If that is our “floor” for the next 2 years, I can accept that.

    9. 2FOR18

      Z-man:
      I also think that no matter what, we have a 3 year window with this team, at which time the big 3 contracts all fall off the books. In a way, that is encouraging.Even after 2 seasons, Melo and Chandler will have some trade value and Amare will be at least a big expiring contract. The key for now is not to screw up things the 2015 FA/draft/cap season.

      I see this team being something like a better version of the Bernard King team of 1983. You kinda knew that the team wasn’t a title contender, but I can’t overstate the thrill of watching Bernard go off night after night, and then beating the Pistons in an epic OT game 5, followed by an epic 7-game series against one of the greatest teams in b-ball history. If that is our “floor” for the next 2 years, I can accept that.

      I watched Bernard King; I was a fan of Bernard King; Bernard King played above the rim; Bernard King did not hold the ball. melo, you’re no Bernard King.

    10. tastycakes

      Totally happy with the Woody signing, especially if those terms mentioned by Stephen A are correct.

      The front office has shown some stubbornness with maintaining stability in the front office and on the bench when guys are signed up for long term deals. 3 years is totally reasonable, and it coincides with the tenure of our best players. If it doesn’t work, maybe we have a front office that will understand that blowing up the whole thing and *actually* rebuilding through draft AND free agency will be the way to go?

    11. Z-man

      2FOR18: I watched Bernard King; I was a fan of Bernard King; Bernard King played above the rim; Bernard King did not hold the ball. melo, you’re no Bernard King.

      Melo is in fact no Bernard, but not for the reasons you state.

      Bernard held the ball just as much as Melo, in fact, he averaged nearly the same amount of shots as Melo during their respective Knicks days. He also averaged less assists than Melo.

      Neither player was essentially an above-the-rim player a la Jordan, ‘Nique, LeBron. Both have a similar amount of highlight reel dunks. Bernard’s dunks came mostly on the left wing ot the fast break.

      The main differences are: Bernard’s scowl vs. Melo’s grin; Bernard’s patented unstoppable turnaround baseline quick-release jumper vs. Melo’s much more varied but much less efficient offensive game.

      Anyway, my point was not to equate Melo with Bernard, only that the type of team is similar unless Amare gets rejuvinated and Lin becomes the real deal (or we get a healthy Nash). In that case, this team is overal a better team with more depth. Bernard’s teams had some real bums: Pat Cummings, Truck Robinson, Rory Sparrow to name 3. However, Cartwright was good, Darrell Walker was like Shump, Trent Tucker was like a guard version of Novak, Louis Orr was like a offensive version of Jared Jeffries, etc.

    12. TelegraphedPass

      2FOR18:
      Since a couple of you have mentioned Marcus Denmon, here’s his write-up on draft express.Basically, a great spot up shooter (47.5 FG% on jumpers!) and willing defender, but undersized for the 2 and not enough of a creator for the 1.They have him going #59 to, of course, the Spurs, though their current mock draft has the caveat that it doesn’t take into account team needs.

      http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marcus-Denmon-6491/

      Jason Terry and Ben Gordon are also undersized 2s, and they make it work as roleplayers. I’m not sure Denmon has the feel for the game they do, but it’s possible. He takes really smart shots and as you said is a great spot up shooter.

      My concern with him is the possibility that his efficiency is just the product of the Mizzou system he played in, but he’s been efficient his whole career despite a varying role in their offense. I think he’s just got great basketball IQ and knows how to get himself open. That kind of player could be really useful off the bench, especially considering the flaws other shooters in FA bring to the table. Denmon may be undersized, but I could see him being the type of pest who can constantly run off screens and tire his defender out a la Barea in the Finals. He would force his defender to watch him, since he’s such a threat to catch-and-shoot.

    13. TelegraphedPass

      Z-man: Melo is in fact no Bernard, but not for the reasons you state.

      Bernard held the ball just as much as Melo, in fact, he averaged nearly the same amount of shots as Melo during their respective Knicks days.He also averaged less assists than Melo.

      Neither player was essentially an above-the-rim player a la Jordan, ‘Nique, LeBron.Both have a similar amount of highlight reel dunks. Bernard’s dunks came mostly on the left wing ot the fast break.

      The main differences are: Bernard’s scowl vs. Melo’s grin; Bernard’s patented unstoppable turnaround baseline quick-release jumper vs. Melo’s much more varied but much less efficient offensive game.

      Anyway, my point was not to equate Melo with Bernard, only that the type of team is similar unless Amare gets rejuvinated and Lin becomes the real deal (or we get a healthy Nash).In that case, this team is overal a better team with more depth. Bernard’s teams had some real bums: Pat Cummings, Truck Robinson, Rory Sparrow to name 3.However, Cartwright was good, Darrell Walker was like Shump, Trent Tucker was like a guard version of Novak, Louis Orr was like a offensive version of Jared Jeffries, etc.

      *looks at Bernard King’s win shares per 48*

      *blinks*

      *eurosteps the subject*

    14. 2FOR18

      @ 12

      I found Bernard’s game to be more pleasing to the eye than melo’s. I know he wasn’t a dunking highlight machine, but he was a great finisher and, yes, his turnaround fadeaway was amazing to watch. Bernard was like a Lamborghini; melo is like an Escalade. Also, he could dominate with crappy teammates, whereas melo seems to need the right parts around him to dominate.

      So I was referring more to your comment about how much fun it was to watch Bernard play. melo certainly has better teammates, assuming everyone can actually be healthy at the same time and they can figure out how to work together on a consistent basis.

    15. callmened

      Any chance of trading tdouglas to move up earlier in the 2nd rd…or is that pointless?

    16. TelegraphedPass

      callmened:
      Any chance of trading tdouglas to move up earlier in the 2nd rd…or is that pointless?

      Pointless. I’d be shocked if any other team wants him at this point. He was historically bad this season, and it’s not like he has a high ceiling to make up for it. Or any elite skills.

    17. jon abbey

      TelegraphedPass: Pointless. I’d be shocked if any other team wants him at this point. He was historically bad this season, and it’s not like he has a high ceiling to make up for it. Or any elite skills.

      he led the entire league in 3 pointers made after the ASB in 2010-2011, that seems fairly ‘high ceiling’ and ‘elite’ to me. still no idea what happened this year if it wasn’t his shoulder…

    18. TelegraphedPass

      jon abbey: he led the entire league in 3 pointers made after the ASB in 2010-2011, that seems fairly ‘high ceiling’ and ‘elite’ to me. still no idea what happened this year if it wasn’t his shoulder…

      Definitely NOAP on the ceiling. He’s a PG who is astonishingly bad at running an offense, who hasn’t demonstrating a strong shooting touch in a year, lacks elite athleticism, not really the defender he was projected to be coming out of college…

      What kind of ceiling does he have even if he does rediscover his perimeter shooting? He won’t be a starting PG, unless he lucks onto a team starting LeBron, Joe Johnson, Hedo Turk, or some other playmaker out of the 1 slot. What kind of ceiling is that? Poor man’s Brandon Jennings?

      Trade down for a chance at a moderate defender with the possibility of reclaiming a good outside shooting stroke? Can’t see it.

    19. KnickfaninNJ

      Some teams have a lot if draft picks. We could probably buy one. Or preferably trade Balkman for one.

    20. Z-man

      2FOR18: @ 12I found Bernard’s game to be more pleasing to the eye than melo’s. I know he wasn’t a dunking highlight machine, but he was a great finisher and, yes, his turnaround fadeaway was amazing to watch. Bernard was like a Lamborghini; melo is like an Escalade. Also, he could dominate with crappy teammates, whereas melo seems to need the right parts around him to dominate. So I was referring more to your comment about how much fun it was to watch Bernard play. melo certainly has better teammates, assuming everyone can actually be healthy at the same time and they can figure out how to work together on a consistent basis.

      I like your analogy, although maybe a Corvette is a better analog for Melo. Bernard’s quick release post-up game was truly unique, I’ve never seen anything like it before or since, it was pure money. His face-up jumper looked less aesthetically pleasing than Melo’s but it went in far more consistently. With Melo, his great games (e.g. the late-season win over Chicago) are amazing, but he has far too many 7-22 type games, so I just don’t have the same level of confidence when he has the ball tnat I did when Bernard had the ball. With Bernard, you were surprised when he missed; with Melo, you hope he gets on a roll but aren’t sure what to expect.

      One other thing, I don’t remember Bernard ever having the mind-boggling brain farts that Melo has (especially dumb fouls, both offensive and defensive.)

    21. Z-man

      I still hold our hope that TD can be a good utility player if he can re-disciver his 3-pt shot. Doubt that we can trade him, though.

      Should we try to pick up Childress if Phx “amnesties” him? What about Kyle Lowry? He wants out of Houston…maybe a package with Fields, Jorts and a #2 for him?

    22. 2FOR18

      It was intimated a few times that Douglas was having personal problems, so if that’s what it was I’m hopeful that he can contribute next year. Considering the media market and being in the twitter age, I can’t believe the lack of news/rumors on him.

    23. Owen

      “I watched Bernard King; I was a fan of Bernard King; Bernard King played above the rim; Bernard King did not hold the ball. melo, you’re no Bernard King.”

      That’s funny, my friend, who is a little older than me and idolizes Bernard, and is a 20 year season ticket holder, said exactly the same thing to me this winter…

      Just missed out on his glory years so i can’t really say. From his numbers, seems like he might have had some flaws in his game, but the playoff numbers are amazing.

      I also don’t know what happened to Douglas. Strange to say the least after posting great numbers in college and in his first year in the league….

    24. Z-man

      I saw just about every BK game on TV and a few live. For that 3 year span, the most exciting, electric player ever to wear a Knicks uniform. It was almost better that the rest of the team sucked (they tailspinned when he blew out his knee, leading to the Ewing lottery) because he had to be the go-to guy and delivered in spectacular fashion on a consistent basis.

      His game did have “limitations” rather than flaws:
      not a great ball-handler
      range only out to 18 ft
      average passer
      very good, but not great defender and rebounder

    25. thenamestsam

      Is it true that we can buy a pick? I feel like I’ve heard that we can and then other times heard that we already spent all the money we’re allowed to in the Turiaf trade. Does anyone know?

    26. TelegraphedPass

      BigBlueAL: Melo’s career WS/48 is higher.

      I SAID I MANU GINOBILI EUROSTEPPED THE SUBJECT!!

      Nah, but it isn’t really fair, considering the injuries Bernard came back from. He was still productive, but not the same player and his WS48 said that he was just about average. I don’t believe in boiling down player production to one number anyways. I only said it because Owen mentioned Melo’s WS48 in the last thread and I was trolling a tad.

    27. nicos

      BigBlueAL: Melo’s career WS/48 is higher.

      But that includes a lot of post-injury Bernard who was never really the same guy. As I said in a previous thread, Bernard had a huge advantage over Melo because the illegal defense rules made it much more difficult to double the post- no zone so everybody had to stay within a couple of steps of their man and couldn’t leave to double until the catch. You could always spread the floor because no matter how poor your shooters were they had to be guarded. Post-up threes like Bernard, Aguirre, and Dantley would have really had to adjust their game to be successful now. That said, there’s no question Bernard was a top ten player in his last two years as a Knick- I don’t think you can say the same for Melo. And Bernard’s playoff run in ’84 is the best I’ve ever seen from anyone in a Knick’s uniform (and as good a pure scoring performance as I’ve seen from anyone outside of Jordan) so Melo’s got his work cut out for him if he wants to mentioned in the same breath as Bernard.

    28. BigBlueAL

      TelegraphedPass: I SAID I MANU GINOBILI EUROSTEPPED THE SUBJECT!!

      Nah, but it isn’t really fair, considering the injuries Bernard came back from. He was still productive, but not the same player and his WS48 said that he was just about average. I don’t believe in boiling down player production to one number anyways. I only said it because Owen mentioned Melo’s WS48 in the last thread and I was trolling a tad.

      You shouldve used LeBron’s crab dribble!! lol

    29. BigBlueAL

      nicos: But that includes a lot of post-injury Bernard who was never really the same guy.As I said in a previous thread, Bernard had a huge advantage over Melo because the illegal defense rules made it much more difficult to double the post- no zone so everybody had to stay within a couple of steps of their man and couldn’t leave to double until the catch.You could always spread the floor because no matter how poor your shooters were they had to be guarded.Post-up threes like Bernard, Aguirre, and Dantley would have really had to adjust their game to be successful now.That said, there’s no question Bernard was a top ten player in his last two years as a Knick- I don’t think you can say the same for Melo.And Bernard’s playoff run in ’84 is the best I’ve ever seen from anyone in a Knick’s uniform (and as good a pure scoring performance as I’ve seen from anyone outside of Jordan) so Melo’s got his work cut out for him if he wants to mentioned in the same breath as Bernard.

      Aguirre did at least have some semblance of a 3pt shot. I only remember him as a Piston though and of course I hate him now since he is close to Isiah and was an asst coach for him with the Knicks lol

    30. d-mar

      My favorite Bernard moment was after he lit up the Pistons in the 1st round of the 1984 playoffs, and Cornbread Maxwell was quoted as saying “That bitch ain’t getting 40 on me” before the Celtics series. He proceeded to score 43 in game 4 and 44 in game 6.

      I think the only other time I can think of where a single player carried a bunch of scrubs that far was maybe LeBron with the Cavs, but his supporting cast was probably better than Bernard’s.

    31. TelegraphedPass

      d-mar:
      My favorite Bernard moment was after he lit up the Pistons in the 1st round of the 1984 playoffs, and Cornbread Maxwell was quoted as saying “That bitch ain’t getting 40 on me” before the Celtics series. He proceeded to score 43 in game 4 and 44 in game 6.

      I think the only other time I can think of where a single player carried a bunch of scrubs that far was maybe LeBron with the Cavs, but his supporting cast was probably better than Bernard’s.

      Eric Snow just smiled somewhere.

    32. BigBlueAL

      Just looked up the 1983 and 1984 Knicks since I was too young to remember them and what stood out to me was the 1983 Knicks were 3rd in defensive efficiency and the 1984 Knicks were 1st!! Also Cartwright really was a pretty damn good player back then too.

    33. nicos

      BigBlueAL:
      Just looked up the 1983 and 1984 Knicks since I was too young to remember them and what stood out to me was the 1983 Knicks were 3rd in defensive efficiency and the 1984 Knicks were 1st!!Also Cartwright really was a pretty damn good player back then too.

      They had some excellent defenders- Ray Williams and Truck Robinson were both very good man defenders and having Marvin (the Human Eraser!) Webster coming off of the bench helped too.

    34. Z-man

      Cartwright was very, very good (he was underrated with the Bulls, IMO.) In 1982-83, Hubie played a first and second unit. The second unit featured Webster, Sly Williams, Louis Orr and Grunfeld and were very fun to watch, especially on D.

    35. Z-man

      My favorite Mr. Bill memory was a game I went to vs. Philly; Barkley had embarrassed Cartwright in the first half and taunted him. In the second half, Cartwright went down the lane and when Barkley went up to block the shot, Mr. Bill dunked in his face and knocked Barkley unconscious. Barkley had to be helped to the locker room and never returned.

      Mr. Bill was no pussy. Jordan had apparently told some teammates to freeze Cartwright out. Mr. Bill told him that if he ever tried that, he would never play basketball again.

    36. bobneptune

      tastycakes:
      Totally happy with the Woody signing, especially if those terms mentioned by Stephen A are correct.

      The front office has shown some stubbornness with maintaining stability in the front office and on the bench when guys are signed up for long term deals.3 years is totally reasonable, and it coincides with the tenure of our best players.If it doesn’t work, maybe we have a front office that will understand that blowing up the whole thing and *actually* rebuilding through draft AND free agency will be the way to go?

      That’s going to be really hard if they blow it up after the 2015 season and suck in 15/16 since Denver can swap 2016 first round picks with us if they choose. how perfect would that be if the don’t resign any of the 3 players after the 14/15 season, suck eggs in 15/16 and win the lottery and mr walmart says ,”thank you very much mr melo….. we’ll take that pick!”

    37. sidestep

      More on fines for commenting on officiating:

      NBA fines Erik Spoelstra $25,000 for Criticizing Officiating

      “The league does not have a problem with hard fouls on our two main guys,” Spoelstra said. “In nine games now, there’s been over a dozen hard fouls to the face, some of the tomahawk variety, some have drawn blood. They don’t have a problem with it so we don’t have a problem with it. We’ll focus on what we can control.”

      http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7972985/2012-nba-playoffs-miami-heat-erik-spoelstra-fined-25000-criticizing-officials

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