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Knicks Morning News (Saturday, May 11 2013)

  • [New York Post] Knicks try to bust move with Amar’e on floor (Sat, 11 May 2013 03:15:14 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? The worrisome prospect of Amar’e Stoudemire being as rusty as a 1962 Indy race car is not the only issue the Knicks carry into Bankers Life Fieldhouse tonight.
    The Knicks are hoping three days off between games have helped. Their second-round series against the Pacers, deadlocked at 1…

  • [New York Post] Serby’s playoff Q&A with … Pablo Prigioni (Sat, 11 May 2013 02:58:11 -0500)
    The Post’s Steve Serby sat down with Pablo Prigioni, the soon-to-be 36-year-old rookie point guard from Argentina, who in his best broken English describes what it’s like to be part this Knicks’ title bid .

    Q: A Pablo Prigioni scouting report?

    A: I think unselfish player … good defender … play…

  • [New York Post] With three-day rest, Felton bounces back from sprained ankle (Sat, 11 May 2013 02:33:23 -0500)
    In a sense, Raymond Felton will be making his return from injury tonight.
    Felton sprained his left ankle late in the third quarter of the Knicks’ Game 2 over the Pacers at the Garden on Tuesday. The invaluable point guard did not return to the rout, and there was initial…

  • [New York Post] Woody knows all about how Indiana â??roots’ (Sat, 11 May 2013 02:30:41 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? You make a right, and then another right, and South West Street turns into Martin Luther King Jr. Street, and then you hop on I-65 for a mile and a half. Then two more rights, a left, and East Westfield Boulevard turns into Broad Ripple Avenue. It takes about…

  • [New York Post] Vogel a â??spin’ doctor (Sat, 11 May 2013 02:23:33 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? Frank Vogel, NBA head coach, Indiana Pacers. Also available for barbecues and charity events â?? he’ll brush his teeth while spinning a basketball on the end of the toothbrush.Your first question might be what would possess someone to try that in the first place, but it landed Vogel…

  • [New York Post] Long layoff can pick up Pacers, too (Sat, 11 May 2013 00:21:20 -0500)
    INDIANAPOLIS â?? To fans in Indiana, it is no doubt an NBA conspiracy. Three full days off in between games only can benefit the ancient Knicks, many of whom were born when the U.S. flag carried 36 stars.Surely, there was no benefit to the far younger Pacers, who seemingly…

  • [New York Daily News] Amar’e could be Knicks’ wild card for Game 3 (Sat, 11 May 2013 04:15:26 GMT)
    During a week in which he looked winded in practice on Monday and seemed to find his rhythm in a scrimmage four days later, Amar’e Stoudemire had a recovery day on Friday.    

  • [New York Daily News] Bondy: Knick’s need Smith’s best shot (Sat, 11 May 2013 04:06:51 GMT)
    You want to panic about Amar’e Stoudemire’s projected 10-15 minutes of playing time Saturday night in Indiana, go right ahead. It is your God-given right as a neurotic Knick fan.    

  • [New York Times] James, Bosh Lead Heat Past Bulls, 104-94 (Sat, 11 May 2013 07:52:56 GMT)
    LeBron James was off target for most of the night and Dwyane Wade was a nonfactor.    

  • [New York Times] Spurs Regain Control With Game 3 Win Over Warriors (Sat, 11 May 2013 07:43:56 GMT)
    The San Antonio Spurs suddenly returned to form. The Golden State Warriors went cold, and Stephen Curry’s sprained left ankle is once again a serious concern.    

  • [New York Times] Game 3: Spurs 102, Warriors 92: Spurs Top Warriors (Sat, 11 May 2013 06:28:52 GMT)
    Tony Parker scored 25 of his 32 points in a sizzling first half, and the San Antonio Spurs quieted the hot-shooting Golden State Warriors to take a 2-1 lead in their series.    

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Minnesota Waives Roy (Sat, 11 May 2013 05:23:18 GMT)
    The Minnesota Timberwolves waived guard Brandon Roy, probably bringing an end to an All-Star career that was shortened by knee problems.    

  • [New York Times] Game 3: Heat 104, Bulls 94: Heat Top Bulls to Take 2-1 Series Lead as LeBron James Scores 25 (Sat, 11 May 2013 04:33:24 GMT)
    LeBron James scored 25 points, and Chris Bosh had 20 points and 19 rebounds as Miami took a 2-1 series lead over Chicago.    

  • [New York Times] James, Bosh Lead Heat Past Bulls, 104-94 (Sat, 11 May 2013 04:07:46 GMT)
    So much for South Beach style. The Miami Heat showed again they can get down and dirty.    

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: Stoudemire Is Ready to Return, but at What Risk to Knicks’ Chemistry? (Sat, 11 May 2013 01:34:22 GMT)
    Amar’e Stoudemire is healthy enough to play after a two-month layoff, but the Knicks’ rotation and identity has been firmly established without him.    

  • 51 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Saturday, May 11 2013)

    1. danvt

      I really have grown to respect the Bulls. Nate’s block on Lebron was a victory for short people everywhere, but, ultimately, as we all know well, he’s too inconsistent. Not enough on the bench for CHI and it was clear that they were tired with the way they shot free throws. Crazy that, even just adding Deng to the mix, the Bulls might have gotten that game. The Heat looked beatable.

      My dream season has us beating MIA so I’m kind of happy to not see the upset in the making in the other semi, even though, you’d obviously rather go against a depleted CHI in the ECF.

      Of course it’s too early to assume we’re getting past IND. I’m cautiously optimistic about getting game three or four and getting the home court advantage back.

    2. jon abbey

      um, it is looking more and more like it will not be a problem to resign JR:

      “JR Smith did not participate in shootaround this AM due to illness. Questionable for tonight for Game 3 at Indiana.”

    3. lavor postell

      jon abbey:
      um, it is looking more and more like it will not be a problem to resign JR:

      “JR Smith did not participate in shootaround this AM due to illness. Questionable for tonight for Game 3 at Indiana.”

      We all know Woodson is going to play JR and run offense through him even if he had broken both his legs and was in a wheelchair.

    4. lavor postell

      DRed:
      I’ve missed a lot of Saturday morning shootarounds due to illness.

      I sometimes missed Friday morning class with illnesses too.

    5. bidiong

      They need to get JR away from Rhianna. He needs to be staying at Woodson house and on curfew.

    6. lavor postell

      Despite his advanced age, Prigioni’s energy has become infectious throughout the team.

      “Pablo is a guy that we feed off defensively,” said Felton. “He’s really aggressive, gets into the ball, picks up guys full court, and we feed off that.”

      Prigioni ranked 11th in steals percentage (2.92) this season.

      As New York travels to Indiana for the next two games of the series, Prigioni believes ball movement will be the key to victory.

      “We had patience on offense, we took better shots, and we moved the ball,” said Prigioni following Game 2. “Everything was much easier.”

      After finishing the season ranked Top-30 in true shooting percentage (.595) and effective field goal percentage (.575), Prigioni has continued his efficient shooting during the playoffs.

      Prigioni has converted 10 of his 21 three-point attempts (.476) and may see more playing time with J.R. Smith mired in a shooting slump since his Game 4 suspension for elbowing Jason Terry.

      http://basketball.realgm.com/blog/227612/Knicks-Maximizing-Value-Of-Prigioni

    7. Frank O.

      If Kmart can step in out of the blue and work out for the Knicks, Amare can do the same.
      And Amare is way, WAY more reliable than JR.
      Amare will be a game changer. Knicks win tonight.
      I feel it!

    8. Kikuchiyo

      dogrufus:
      Welp, looks like a nice round zero chance of winning this game.

      With the Spurs ending the series against GS yesterday, reasons to watch any playoff games are rapidly dwindling.

      I just talked to my doctor, and he said I’m going to die one day.

    9. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      dogrufus:
      Welp, looks like a nice round zero chance of winning this game.
      With the Spurs ending the series against GS yesterday, reasons to watch any playoff games are rapidly dwindling.

      I just talked to my financial advisor, and he said I definitely have to pay my taxes.

    10. d-mar

      dogrufus:
      Welp, looks like a nice round zero chance of winning this game.

      With the Spurs ending the series against GS yesterday, reasons to watch any playoff games are rapidly dwindling.

      Thanks for the heads up, I just called Comcast and had my cable shut off

    11. Unreason

      I’ve just been advised by Earl that proper pipe care ensures immortality and removes any obligation to pay income tax.

    12. danvt

      dogrufus: Welp, looks like a nice round zero chance of winning this game.
      With the Spurs ending the series against GS yesterday, reasons to watch any playoff games are rapidly dwindling.

      I don’t get it. We’re tied 1-1 in the conference semis and you need a reason to watch?

    13. flossy

      dogrufus:
      Welp, looks like a nice round zero chance of winning this game.

      With the Spurs ending the series against GS yesterday, reasons to watch any playoff games are rapidly dwindling.

      Dude you are rapidly approaching self-parody. I’m not worried at all about how we’re going to replace JR Smith’s 30% shooting. We’d be much better off giving Prigs and Shump all the minutes they can handle and carving out 10-15 mins for a big line-up with Amar’e anyway.

    14. flossy

      dogrufus: We’re not tied, we’re massively behind, and we aren’t nearly as advantaged over our opposition as SAS/MIA to be able to rely on winning road games.Our 2nd best player is self-destructing before our eyes.

      We gave a way home court and pretty much lost the series in game 1, so yes, I need a reason to watch.

      So then don’t fucking watch, and don’t post about it til you come off the rag. Deal?

    15. danvt

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: I just talked to my financial advisor, and he said I definitely have to pay my taxes.

      I get the pessimism within it’s context. You could really say that in terms of game three the best news would be if neither JR nor Amar’e play. But in the bigger context, remember, we have Kidd and Prigioni to be primarily decision makers. We have Felton to be a decision maker, a play maker and a scorer. We have Shumpert to shut people down and make open threes. We have JR for the same, plus he can bail us out late in the clock if the best defensive team in the NBA plays good defense. Those %’s are never going to look pretty. We’ve seen that JR and Shumpert struggle to make decisions. Just get it to the bald hall of famer. He’ll find you again if you’re open.

      At forward, we’ve got Carmelo Anthony. Kmart will get his minutes. Amar’e needs to replace the “production” we’ve been getting from Chris Copeland.

      I know a playoff road game in Indiana is scary to watch. The Pacers are an awesome team. I think NYK is in as good a shape as anyone can reasonably expect. You can no longer look at this team and say would of, could have, should of. If they look like crap and the ball movement stops it’s probably because it isn’t the Charlotte Bobcats. IF they make it to the next round they’ll chase a team who’s main opponents might be the Bulls of the 90′s, the Lakers and Celtics of the 80′s, etc. But they have a chance. Last year around this time there was no reason to turn on NBA basketball for a NYK fan. This year there is.

    16. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      No, no — I was remarking on how dogrufus’s comments are totally foreseeable.

    17. danvt

      dogrufus: Nah, I’ll stop watching Monday once we’re down 3-1, or sooner if we’re down double figures during game 3 or 4, which it’s a pretty safe bet we will be by halftime.
      So probably less than 48 total minutes left of basketball worth watching.

      It’s just sort of sad. You’re saying that if you lose you’re not going to watch. You gotta die hard, buddy.

    18. Douglas

      dogrufus:
      Welp, looks like a nice round zero chance of winning this game.

      With the Spurs ending the series against GS yesterday, reasons to watch any playoff games are rapidly dwindling.

      Did you know that feline AIDS is the number one killer of domestic cats?

    19. danvt

      dogrufus: That’s what happens when your entire shot creation burden rests on two low-efficiency wings.

      No, JR and Carmelo are not looked upon as shot creators. They are scorers. Because they have the ability to create for themselves they will be called upon in late shot clock situations when plays break down or to go one on one if a matchup is favorable.

      If NYK looks like this is their offense, it’s because of IND’s defense.
      (But I’ll watch anyway). NYK has earned my respect this year and some optimism for better things to come in future seasons.

    20. AvonBarksdale

      this thread is “phenomenal” i’ve been on this site everyday repeatedly for over a year and seen a lot of nonsense but this is some tasty irreverence.

      currently watching game 2 again and i see no reason why we can’t win easily without JR, i’m more concerned he plays sick and continues his slump and the coach just leaves his tired ass in. also the only depressing thing i think could happen is Amare pulls a Sheed and plays 4 minutes and his knee falls off promptly retiring.

      @dogrufus we have looked really crummy but only compared to how great we can and have been during the hot times i’m concerned but stop hating we winning,

      “we control our destiny to play at a high level with the minutes for the people available to contribute on the floor in our goals which is to ultimately win a championship”

    21. d-mar

      This is what I hate about blogging: someone make stupid predictions over and over and over again, and if they somehow come true, then we’re subjected to crowing and more inane posts flowing like diarrhea.

      But if they don’t come true, then the blogger simply disappears. Seems too easy.

    22. flossy

      dogrufus: Nah, I’ll stop watching Monday once we’re down 3-1, or sooner if we’re down double figures during game 3 or 4, which it’s a pretty safe bet we will be by halftime.

      So probably less than 48 total minutes left of basketball worth watching.

      Great! If we do win, will you STFU?

    23. JK47

      d-mar:
      This is what I hate about blogging: someone make stupid predictions over and over and over again, and if they somehow come true, then we’re subjected to crowing and more inane posts flowing like diarrhea.

      But if they don’t come true, then the blogger simply disappears. Seems too easy.

      Yes, which is why dogrufus is the most insufferable type of troll.

      I mean, we won the last game in a blowout, yet there’s “no reasonable chance” we win the series.

      Some people come here to intelligently debate the Knicks. Other people just want attention.

    24. flossy

      JK47: Yes, which is why dogrufus is the most insufferable type of troll.

      I mean, we won the last game in a blowout, yet there’s “no reasonable chance” we win the series.

      Some people come here to intelligently debate the Knicks.Other people just want attention.

      What’s worse is that presumably we’re all Knicks fans here but it’s pretty obvious some people would rather be right about the Knicks losing than watch the team actually win.

    25. Hubert Davis

      Dogrufus thinks he is reverse jinxing the Knicks. In his mind, he’s helping us win. Whatever.

      It’s bad when I think I’m glad JR is out.

    26. danvt

      dogrufus: Why would you expect better things to come in future seasons? This team is 100% maxed out. We could have helped that by trading Lin for an asset instead of letting him go for nothing, but we didn’t. We have no picks till like 2029, no cap space, and an aging/old core. Do you really think we’re going to improve into Chandler’s thirties? He doesn’t even look like he’ll be an average player next season. Amare is the worst contract in the league, and Melo will be declining sharply in a year or two.

      I had my “oh my god the Knicks won’t win a chip in my lifetime” moment right after the all star break. The two losses to the Raptors, the blowout in IND… Those were the moments for this type of reflection. After that I just hoped that they played hard.

      Lots of reasons for optimism for next year. Biggest one of all is Shumpert rounding out his game. He just needs to be a little more decisive on offense and he could be an all star.

    27. Z-man

      Here’s a post from July 17th (the day that the Lin non-matching became official):

      “dogrufus
      July 17, 2012 at 10:55 pm

      Alright guys, this is the end.

      20 years of die-hard fandom.

      This is the limit.

      The NBA is dead to me forever. I’ll miss this blog.

      20 years. I’ll always think of what might have been. Bye comrades.”

      Dogrufus is so dumb, he can’t even get predictions about HIMSELF right. Unfortunately for the rest of us.

    28. danvt

      dogrufus: JR and Melo don’t create our shots? Then who does?

      I just can’t help it. It’s too easy to shoot this stuff down. A poor basketball mind such as myself can debunk this stuff…

      Dogrufus, Dude,
      Turn on NBA TV right now. Martin to Kidd to Melo to Kidd to Martin for the lefty finish. This team moves the ball beautifully with three excellent PG’s.

      We may not win but all your arguments seem recycled from other moments in history.

    29. danvt

      I’m laid up with a broken ankle right now and watching the 4th q of game 2. Crowd is chanting “Pablo! Pablo!” and he is just deferring and deferring… just getting team mates involved.

      This team is playing incredible basketball right now. You gotta just try to enjoy this, whatever the results from here on.

    30. flossy

      dogrufus: Where do you get the feeling I’m rather be right?I want nothing more than for us to win and me to be wrong, that’s why I’m trying so hard to make it happen.

      Hah! Yeah, where would the Knicks be without your extraordinary efforts on their behalf. Hold on, I’m sure I have a gold star around here somewhere.

    31. flossy

      dogrufus: No, I’ll be here to predict a sweep at the hands of MIA.

      Great, so after being wrong about everything in the Indy series you’d still stick around to rain on everyone’s parade. I’m sure if the Knicks took a game from the Heat you’d just revise your prediction to “Heat in 5″ until you were just making predictions to blindingly obvious–namely, that the Heat are overwhelming favorites–that literally any casual sports fan would have come to the same conclusion. You mean to tell me the Knicks won’t win a chip this year? WOW!! What else ya got, Nostradumbass?

    32. lavor postell

      flossy: Great, so after being wrong about everything in the Indy series you’d still stick around to rain on everyone’s parade.I’m sure if the Knicks took a game from the Heat you’d just revise your prediction to “Heat in 5? until you were just making predictions to blindingly obvious–namely, that the Heat are overwhelming favorites–that literally any casual sports fan would have come to the same conclusion.You mean to tell me the Knicks won’t win a chip this year?WOW!!What else ya got, Nostradumbass?

      LMAO

    33. Juany8

      flossy: Great, so after being wrong about everything in the Indy series you’d still stick around to rain on everyone’s parade.I’m sure if the Knicks took a game from the Heat you’d just revise your prediction to “Heat in 5? until you were just making predictions to blindingly obvious–namely, that the Heat are overwhelming favorites–that literally any casual sports fan would have come to the same conclusion.You mean to tell me the Knicks won’t win a chip this year?WOW!!What else ya got, Nostradumbass?

      He’ll probably change his prediction to a Knicks win for tonight any second now, right after he changed his prediction to a close loss.

    34. ptmilo

      JR being out or in but feverish is a shame, since 3-15 won’t go on forever. And Amar’e getting some time will be interesting. But I am mainly praying for sudden a return to the pre-incarceration Tyson. I don’t agree with some who think that his defense has been pretty good of late. Something funny has happened with this team. They have a lineup available which can be a defensive powerhouse but also effective offensively, especially late in a playoff-intensity half court dominated setting. Prigioni, Shumpert, Carmelo, K-Mart and Tyson is a monster of a defense at full force. And with Shumpert’s markedly improved wing 3pt shooting and Prigioni’s slightly increased willingness to shoot when open and generally be more careful with the basketball, it isn’t inept offensively. Anthony’s unique offensive greatness is the perfect antidote to its lack of playmaking. It does probably need to pick and roll constantly to mitigate the Kmart/Chandler spacing challenges. I have never actually seen this lineup in the playoffs, but thanks to the development of Shump and Pablo I think it could be very fun to watch and a defensive juggernaut with a healthy Chandler.

    35. jon abbey

      seems like we have different personnel every single game, it’s kind of amazing given that that we’ve even gotten this far.

      I will have to watch this one on DVR a bit later, but somehow I am cautiously optimistic, probably more than I should be.

      SHUMP SHUMP SHUMP SHUMP!!!!!

    36. Unreason

      Strange, it’s as if one poster is uncle Remus and his winking pseudo predictions are a certain sooty infant.

      Anyway…
      Maybe give Cope and Amare lots of early touches in the post and have them go right at Hibbert to get him in foul trouble by the half?
      I don’t know if his absence was all it was made out to be in the second game, but Anthony’s green light did seem to go on after Hibbert was pulled.

    37. d-mar

      Unreason:
      Strange, it’s as if one poster is uncle Remus and his winking pseudo predictions are a certain sooty infant.

      Anyway…
      Maybe give Cope and Amare lots of early touches in the post and have them go right at Hibbert to get him in foul trouble by the half?
      I don’t know if his absence was all it was made out to be in the second game, but Anthony’s green light did seem to go on after Hibbert was pulled.

      The trouble is going right at Hibbert doesn’t work. He just stands there and extends his arms, and we’re certainly not going to get more foul calls in Indy.

    38. flossy

      d-mar: The trouble is going right at Hibbert doesn’t work. He just stands there and extends his arms, and we’re certainly not going to get more foul calls in Indy.

      I think it makes a difference whether Hibbert is providing help or actually guarding the man with the ball. When drove past West or bullied his way past George, Hibbert would just drop back until he was right under the basket and Melo would drive the ball right into Hibbert’s chest and get his layup stuffed. If Amar’e is reasonably spry, I think trying to engineer situations where Hibbert is guarding him one-on-one on the left block is probably our best chance to do some damage, foul-wise. Maybe Hibbert will stuff that too but it’s a lot harder to cleanly block a short jump hook.

    39. Kahnzy

      flossy: Great, so after being wrong about everything in the Indy series you’d still stick around to rain on everyone’s parade.I’m sure if the Knicks took a game from the Heat you’d just revise your prediction to “Heat in 5? until you were just making predictions to blindingly obvious–namely, that the Heat are overwhelming favorites–that literally any casual sports fan would have come to the same conclusion.You mean to tell me the Knicks won’t win a chip this year?WOW!!What else ya got, Nostradumbass?

      Don’t forget about being wrong about Boston. And the 54 times we actually won a game. And about the sun actually coming up today.

    40. Douglas

      You cannot silence the anguished cries of Dogrufus, the Child of Darkness. Basketball brings him nothing but pain and suffering, now we shall all feel that pain and suffer as he does! There shall be no joy, no happiness! Cower in fear at the horrific scars of his twisted soul! Doom and gloom! Doom and gloooooom!

      Beware, Knicks fans! Dogrufus is coming for YOUUUUU!

    41. Kikuchiyo

      Wow. I’m not going to call this the worst thread ever, but it is something like the literary equivalent of going 3 for 15.

    42. Kahnzy

      You don’t suppose Ibaka and JR have been partying together, do you? He’s missed two dunks, and 2 or 3 point blank put backs and it’s only the first half.

    43. Douglas

      Kahnzy:
      You don’t suppose Ibaka and JR have been partying together, do you? He’s missed two dunks, and 2 or 3 point blank put backs and it’s only the first half.

      Ibaka looks drunk.

    44. bidiong

      Kikuchiyo:
      Wow. I’m not going to call this the worst thread ever, but it is something like the literary equivalent of going 3 for 15.

      Awesome

    45. joengai

      dogrufus: How was I wrong about everything in the Indy series?I said the series was over when we lost game one, and lo and behold, the series is over.Our 2nd best player is self-destructing before our eyes and we have no chance of winning a game in Indy.We’re probably more likely to lose another game at home than we are to win in Indy.

      If we win tonight or tomorrow I’ll eat crow, but we won’t.The season is over.

      K.

    46. flossy

      dogrufus: How was I wrong about everything in the Indy series?I said the series was over when we lost game one, and lo and behold, the series is over.Our 2nd best player is self-destructing before our eyes and we have no chance of winning a game in Indy.We’re probably more likely to lose another game at home than we are to win in Indy.

      If we win tonight or tomorrow I’ll eat crow, but we won’t.The season is over.

      If we make it to the conference finals, you will have been wrong about this series, quite obviously. But you’ll stick around to portend gloom and doom about the conference finals in spite of that track record. Which will be even more annoying than you are right now. Get it?

    47. Z-man

      dogrufus:
      I won’t deny it, I took the Lin thing emotionally.If you cut a dogrufus, does he not bleed?Whatever your view on Lin, he was unquestionably an asset at the time and losing him for nothing is indisputably a huge own goal and severe gut-punch for any die-hard fan.Some dumb team would have given us a pick or something.Look what CLE gave up to get the pick that became Irving.For a team that trades away its picks so lightly you’d think we’d make more effort to acquire them.

      Eventually I came back from the ledge.Grunwald pulled some other small moves that ended up being masterstrokes:Prig and Cope plucked from nowhere, the Kenyon pickup, etc.It was like an olympic gymnast stabbing himself in the eye with a fork, then performing a 9.0 routine.So dogrufus survived…but he came back…wrong.Twisted…

      Thiks post sounds like it was written by a toothless strung-out back-alley lowlife who had fleeting access to a computer. Did I throw you a quarter once in the subway?

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