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Knicks Morning News (Saturday, May 04 2013)

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Advance, Win 4 Straight Over Clippers (Sat, 04 May 2013 07:43:14 GMT)
    The Grizzlies are very happy after finally getting a bit of payback for their first-round loss to the Los Angeles Clippers a year ago.    

  • [New York Times] Thunder Beat Rockets 103-94 to Advance (Sat, 04 May 2013 07:21:33 GMT)
    The Oklahoma City Thunder were unhappy about coming back to Houston for Game 6. They left town in a much better mood.    

  • [New York Times] Celtics’ Comeback Fades in 88-80 Loss to Knicks (Sat, 04 May 2013 06:51:48 GMT)
    Kevin Garnett made his way off the court toward Boston’s locker room looking straight down the entire way, not lifting his head or even a hand to the fans crowding him and reaching for a high-five or to congratulate him.    

  • [New York Times] Thunder Beat Rockets 103-94 to Advance (Sat, 04 May 2013 06:09:45 GMT)
    Kevin Durant texted Kevin Martin after his terrible performance in Game 5 to send words of encouragement, and tell him he knew Martin would bounce back on Friday night.    

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Advance With 118-105 Win Over Clippers (Sat, 04 May 2013 06:00:49 GMT)
    The Grizzlies refused to be pushed around, especially on their home court, and now they’re headed back to the Western Conference semifinals for the second time in three seasons.    

  • [New York Times] Roundup: Pacers Advance in N.B.A. Playoffs (Sat, 04 May 2013 04:37:45 GMT)
    Indiana withstood a fourth-quarter comeback by Atlanta, and will now face the Knicks in the next round.    

  • [New York Times] Game 6: Knicks 88, Celtics 80: Over for Celtics, but Not Easy Win for Knicks (Sat, 04 May 2013 04:34:06 GMT)
    The Knicks nearly gave away a 26-point lead in the fourth quarter before steadying themselves to outlast the Celtics. They clinched their first playoff series victory since 2000.    

  • [New York Times] Game 6: Knicks vs. Celtics Replay (Sat, 04 May 2013 04:08:42 GMT)
    After blowing most of a 26-point lead, the Knicks stopped the Celtics’ comeback attempt to advance to the Eastern Conference semifinals.    

  • [New York Times] For Celtics, Up-and-Down Game Is Microcosm of Hard Year (Sat, 04 May 2013 03:57:06 GMT)
    The Celtics never led and scored only 47 points through the first three quarters, yet they still nearly managed to steal Game 6 against the Knicks with a scintillating late run.    

  • [New York Times] Knicks 88, Celtics 80: Knicks Hold On to Beat Celtics and Advance (Sat, 04 May 2013 03:51:46 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony scored 21 points despite a poor shooting night as the Knicks staved off a Celtics rally to advance in the playoffs for the first time since 2000.    

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Harden’s Season in a Word: Great (Sat, 04 May 2013 03:49:48 GMT)
    James Harden’s amazing season for the Houston Rockets, his first as a team’s primary offensive option, has gone largely overlooked.    

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Bryant’s Latest Court Battle: Trying to Stop His Mom’s Auction (Sat, 04 May 2013 03:43:08 GMT)
    Kobe Bryant is trying to stop his mother, Pamela Bryant, from auctioning off some of his memorabilia, worth an estimated $1.5 million.    

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Flawed Strategy Crimps Thunder’s Chances (Sat, 04 May 2013 03:41:12 GMT)
    The Thunder’s decision to intentionally foul Omer Asik of the Rockets turned out to be ill-advised.    

  • [New York Times] As Nets and Bulls Go the Distance, the First Round Feels Like the 15th (Sat, 04 May 2013 03:29:52 GMT)
    The series has morphed into a taut and tense prizefight between two like-minded opponents who never lost faith in their ability to beat each other up.    

  • [New York Times] Pacers Finish Off Hawks, Win Game 6 81-73 (Sat, 04 May 2013 03:18:56 GMT)
    The Indiana Pacers packed for an extended trip.    

  • [New York Times] Stephen Curry and David Lee Help Warriors Oust Nuggets (Sat, 04 May 2013 00:45:30 GMT)
    Stephen Curry scored 22 points and David Lee made a surprising cameo in a quick return from injury as Golden State eliminated the Denver Nuggets in six games.    

  • [New York Daily News] During Game 6, Iman is The Man for Knicks (Sat, 04 May 2013 05:51:15 GMT)
    This time last year, Iman Shumpert was writhing on the court in Miami after blowing out his knee in the first playoff game of his rookie NBA season.    

  • [New York Daily News] Lupica: A little less than heroically, Melo gets it won and done (Sat, 04 May 2013 05:39:57 GMT)
    You give Carmelo Anthony all props for helping to secure the win, for making the shots he had to make. But if you saw the game you know that the Knicks carried him in the biggest game of their season a lot more than he carried them.    

  • [New York Daily News] Lawrence: Melo is lucky he’ll avoid 7 (Sat, 04 May 2013 05:36:15 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony might still need to get the Knicks a win in a Game 7 in the playoffs. Maybe one day and maybe even this spring. But to his great relief, it won’t be on Sunday and it will not be against these Boston Celtics.    

  • [New York Daily News] Finally! Knicks survive Celtics for first playoff series win since 2000 (Sat, 04 May 2013 02:09:19 GMT)
    So much for green and white ghosts, Game 7 and being on the wrong side of history. The Knicks ended 13 years of postseason futility — and perhaps ended the Kevin Garnett era as well – by defeating the Boston Celtics 88-80 in Game 6 on Friday.    

  • 35 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Saturday, May 04 2013)

    1. WeirdJohn

      A conversation with my panicking father yesterday:

      Dad: “Well son, it looks like they are choking it away.”

      Me: “I still think they are going to win this series.”

      Dad: “Yeah, but they should have closed it out already. Up 3-0 there is no way there should have been a game 5 much less a game 6.”

      Me: “6 of the 8 first round series are having a 6th game Dad.”

      Dad: “I guess. Well you have to admit, game 5, total choke job by Anthony.”

      Me: “Honestly the whole team hasn’t played well for the last two games. The Knicks are a much better team then they’ve shown and they will turn it around.”

      Dad: “Well are you going to watch the game tonight?”

      Me: “Nah, I’ve got a work party to go to.”

      Dad: “Well that sucks.”

      Me: “It’s ok, I’ll be able to watch game 1 vs. Indiana or Atlanta. No biggy.”

      End scene. This is how pretty much all my conversations with my Dad go. He is the voice of doom after every loss, and I’m the voice of reason.

      Something tells me these next few weeks of playoffs are going to be tiring, but I wouldn’t have it any other way.

    2. Z-man

      So, no matter what happens from here on out, this season will not go down as a colossal failure, an abject disaster, an unmitigated catastrophe. Obviously, losing to the Pacers would be a huge, huge disappointment, but nowhere near as suicide watch-inducing as losing to the evil, trash-talking mf-ers from Boston after blowing a 3-0 lead and a 26-pt lead in the 4th quarter of a close-out game. I could barely keep my heart beating when they had the ball down 4 and their crowd was in a frenzy induced by Pierce hitting a 3 and then a 3-pt play. No fan of any sport should ever have to endure a collapse of that magnitude after going through a teenage boy’s lifetime (my son is 13) of humiliation like Knicks fans have. Thank you, boys, for not letting that happen. Sure, it would have been nice to have completed the sweep on their home court, but the result is the same, the exorcising of the first round exit demon, the extension of the Knicks season well into May and possibly June, the overcoming of terrible losses to live and fight another day.

    3. Z-man

      And this is not to say that I am retreating from the championship or bust attitude that I came into the season with. This is probably our best chance for the next couple of years, so getting eliminated at any point will be very tough.

    4. danvt

      There’s no style points, ultimately. A win is a win. Knicks came back from 20 in game 4. Better that they didn’t have too easy a time. They got away with any complacency this time and they learned their lesson, hopefully. Give the Celtics credit. They’re really well coached and tough.

      It’s probably hard for the guys to adjust to playing so few games. That might be a reason for the poor shooting numbers all around. I think the suspension meant JR had no feel coming back for game 5.

      On JR, obviously we’d like to see him improve in round 2. Not really sure he should’ve been tossed for a game, though. Meanwhile, while he has elite athleticism, the difference between him and DWade is between the ears.

      Overall, very happy. Not that scared of IND, though that will probably change.

    5. Z-man

      So, anyone still missing Jeremy Lin? Anyone still think that matching was a no-brainer? Anyone still think that Felton stinks and never should have been signed? Felton was, hands down, the MVP of this series. Prigioni was a monster in game 6. Beverley outplayed Lin all year, and by a large margin in the playoffs.

      Anyone still think we should have traded Shump for Nash, or Dudley, or Redick?

      Great job, Grunny!

    6. Z-man

      danvt, I agree that facing adversity and overcoming is very valuable going forward. Let’s not forget that the Heat were down 3-2 to the Celts last year and losing in the second half of an elimination game before getting to the finals.

      My biggest worry right now is Melo’s shoulder, would have been nice to have had more rest before taking on Indy. I guess they will be banged up too.

    7. baba1

      I know this maybe looking ahead slightly but I read a Bill Simmons tweet last night in which he said that there is a strong possibility that CP3 won’t go back to the Clippers….do you all think there is anyway we could trade for CP3 maybe Felton, Shump and some other contracts to make salaries match.

    8. mokers

      baba1:
      I know this maybe looking ahead slightly but I read a Bill Simmons tweet last night in which he said that there is a strong possibility that CP3 won’t go back to the Clippers….do you all think there is anyway we could trade for CP3 maybe Felton, Shump and some other contracts to make salaries match.

      Very hard to make salaries match on anything without Amar’e in the trade. Clippers would have to sign and trade and Knicks would have to find a third team that wanted STAT’s contract and had assets that the Clippers wanted.

    9. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Z-man:
      So, anyone still missing Jeremy Lin? Anyone still think that matching was a no-brainer? Anyone still think that Felton stinks and never should have been signed? Felton was, hands down, the MVP of this series. Prigioni was a monster in game 6. Beverley outplayed Lin all year, and by a large margin in the playoffs.

      Anyone still think we should have traded Shump for Nash, or Dudley, or Redick?

      Great job, Grunny!

      Shumpert and Prigioni were the MVPs of that series. 22 STL, 11 TO between them. That is Chris Paul-like. And efficient scoring.

    10. Juany8

      Z-man:
      So, anyone still missing Jeremy Lin? Anyone still think that matching was a no-brainer? Anyone still think that Felton stinks and never should have been signed? Felton was, hands down, the MVP of this series. Prigioni was a monster in game 6. Beverley outplayed Lin all year, and by a large margin in the playoffs.

      Anyone still think we should have traded Shump for Nash, or Dudley, or Redick?

      Great job, Grunny!

      I swear to god the Rockets might still be playing if Lin hadn’t decided to come back for some stupid reason… He was -18 in 13 minutes played yesterday….

    11. JK47

      Yeah, Shump was a beast in that series. He ended up with a .593 TS%, .571 eFG%, shot .526 from 3PT, had 11 steals and was second on the team in total rebounds. Add it all up and you get a .225 WS/48, and that’s not even really taking into account his strong position defense.

      He basically played like the Shump Shump of our dreams when we drafted him. And he’s been doing this for a while now– over the last 25 games of the regular season he had a .585 TS%, .557 eFG%.

    12. GHenman

      I hate to say it because I liked him, but we really dodged a huge bullet by not matching that Lin contract.

    13. maxwell_3g

      Z-man:
      So, anyone still missing Jeremy Lin? Anyone still think that matching was a no-brainer? Anyone still think that Felton stinks and never should have been signed? Felton was, hands down, the MVP of this series. Prigioni was a monster in game 6. Beverley outplayed Lin all year, and by a large margin in the playoffs.

      Anyone still think we should have traded Shump for Nash, or Dudley, or Redick?

      Great job, Grunny!

      +100000. especially about the shump non-trade. there were many on this board who wanted to trade shump for redick or jarred dudley. remember that???

    14. maxwell_3g

      baba1:
      I know this maybe looking ahead slightly but I read a Bill Simmons tweet last night in which he said that there is a strong possibility that CP3 won’t go back to the Clippers….do you all think there is anyway we could trade for CP3 maybe Felton, Shump and some other contracts to make salaries match.

      unbelievable……maybe dolan is the perfect owner for us

    15. GHenman

      baba1: I know this maybe looking ahead slightly but I read a Bill Simmons tweet last night in which he said that there is a strong possibility that CP3 won’t go back to the Clippers….do you all think there is anyway we could trade for CP3 maybe Felton, Shump and some other contracts to make salaries match.

      If Grunwald could pull this off, he’d be the best NBA exec since Auerbach.

    16. mokers

      maxwell_3g: +100000.especially about the shump non-trade.there were many on this board who wanted to trade shump for redick or jarred dudley.remember that???

      Shump has shown a lot of improvement just this year. Really is learning what shots to take and is working great in the offense. His defense was simply amazing yesterday.

      It’s crazy what Grunwald has been able to do with this team given the limited flexibility.

    17. Tony Pena

      mokers: Shump has shown a lot of improvement just this year. Really is learning what shots to take and is working great in the offense. His defense was simply amazing yesterday.

      Got me thinking that we might not be so bad if we lose JR. More level-headed, bigger, better defender. The weakest part of his game is finishing- That’s prob gonn take longer than one offseason to improve, but still.

    18. d-mar

      Here’s why, to quote Ephus, it’s a great time to be a Knicks’ fan:

      – We just beat the Boston Celtics in 6 games, and our star and leading scorer had a sub-par series offensively

      – We just beat the C’s in 6 games, and the Sixth Man of the Year was a total non-factor in the last 3 games

      – Our dynamic young player, Iman Shumpert, had a breakout series and is blossoming before our eyes

      – Prigs is getting more and more confident with his shot, which adds one more dimension to our offense

      – Felton is exuding confidence and playing solidly at both ends

      – Chandler looked healthy and engaged last night

      – We have home court advantage in the next series vs. a team that may be as offensively challenged as the Celtics

      Did I forget anything? GO KNICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    19. danvt

      Z-man: danvt, I agree that facing adversity and overcoming is very valuable going forward. Let’s not forget that the Heat were down 3-2 to the Celts last year and losing in the second half of an elimination game before getting to the finals.

      Right, our only hope against MIA is that they never get challenged. MIL series was a joke. More like exhibition action fro what I saw. They need to lose their edge and unready for our toughness. NYG 2007 played in -50 wind chills while NEP cake walked.

      Z-man: My biggest worry right now is Melo’s shoulder, would have been nice to have had more rest before taking on Indy. I guess they will be banged up too.

      Well, health wise it could be way worse. I’m glad Chandler is getting back to himself. I think Melo and all players need a little road rash on their arses to be effective. I was really happy with our performances in back to back situations this year, for example (I won’t look up the #’s but someone can). I’m glad we play tomorrow.

    20. Z-man

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: Shumpert and Prigioni were the MVPs of that series. 22 STL, 11 TO between them. That is Chris Paul-like. And efficient scoring.

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/shumpim01/gamelog/2013/

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/feltora01/gamelog/2013/

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/prigipa01/gamelog/2013/

      If you look at the game logs, it is pretty clear that Felton was far more of an impact player than either Shump or Pablo. Felton had solid games in all four wins, played major minutes in every game, and was often isolated on an aging yet all-time great isolation forward. The Celts said again and again (especially in the first 3 games) that they had no answer for Felton. He single-handedly put us in position for a sweep during the 3rd quarter of game 4, and if Melo had pulled his head out of his ass, he probably wins that game for us.

      Prigs didn’t even play in game 1 and hardly played in game 5. His usage was too low to merit MVP consideration based on shooting alone.

      Shump was not much of a factor in games 1, 2 or 3. He certainly was the MVP of game 6 and maybe we lose the series without his clutch play on both ends in the most important game of the last 13 years. So I could see the vote going to him.

      In any case, you crucified the Knicks for picking up Felton, and I guess you can’t get over your own cynical pre-season evaluation. Felton’s play has won over a lot of Knick fans that were critical of the move at first, I’m wondering when you’ll come around.

    21. jon abbey

      it’s crazy that we’re in the second round of the playoffs, and we still don’t really know what we have in this team. Chandler is improving every game, but will need to keep getting better for us to keep advancing. Amar’e is still a huge huge question mark for me, we can’t really afford much of a learning curve with him at this point, and even the best version of him hurts us on D. and how many players have missed two months or more and then come back in the second round or later and been effective? that seems really hard to do.

    22. johnno

      I can’t figure out why so many Knicks fans on this site and on the radio are so upset with how the series went. Check out the “experts'” predictions going into the series. Almost everyone had the Knicks winning in 6 or 7. No one thought that it was going to be a cakewalk because –

    23. johnno

      Sorry. Hit submit too soon.
      Everyone thought that it would be close because the Celtics are extremely well-coached, they have a defensive scheme and mentality that can make any offense look bad, they have a few battle-tested veterans, guys like Garnett and Pierce will play hard until the bitter end, Boston is a tough place for road teams to win and the Celtics would play with great emotion. So, what did we learn — the Celtics are extremely well-coached, they have a defensive scheme and mentality that can make any offense look bad, they have a few battle-tested veterans, guys like Garnett and Pierce played hard until the bitter end, Boston is a tough place to win and the Celtics played with great emotion. In other words, the series went exactly as expected — except for one thing — I don’t think that anyone predicted that the Knicks would hold the Celtics to their three lowest scoring halves in their playoff history.

    24. jon abbey

      May 7, 1995-the infamous Reggie Miller 8 points in 11 seconds game, against NY in MSG.

      May 7, 2013-game 2, and who will be announcing it on TNT? that is correct, Reggie Miller. thank god for MSG.

    25. nicos

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: Shumpert and Prigioni were the MVPs of that series. 22 STL, 11 TO between them. That is Chris Paul-like. And efficient scoring.

      Come on, Prigs shot well one game- if you take away last night his TS% was in the 40s. Felton turned it over less and had a far higher assist % which was completely vital given how easily the Knicks relapsed into iso heavy sets. Also with the steals- Pablo was fantastic but a lot of the steals Prigs (and Felton too) got came off of really good traps by other players. And Felton’s man defense on Pierce was really good. Prigs had a solid series and certainly should have taken a lot of WP superstar Jason Kidd’s minutes but he was hardly an MVP.

    26. Z-man

      Oh, one more thing against Shump as MVP of the series: in the overtime game, with the score tied, he missed a wide-open wing 3, then instead of running straight back in transition, he drifted towards the hoop for a rebound and allowed Pierce and Terry to get ahead of the field with only Kidd back. Shump tried to recover too late and had to hedge towards Pierce, who was further upcourt, and Kid had already done the same thing. This freed up Terry for the wide-open 3, which turned out to be the dagger.

      I love Shump more than anyone here (go back and read the pre-draft board, I was the first to lobby for drafting him, (even before jon abbey!) and lobbied heavily against trading him for anyone since that time. He had a legendary game last night and deserves tremendous credit for working his ass off and improving his shot and his decision making.

    27. d-mar

      Woody said he wants to bring STAT back for game 3. I would guess 10-15 minutes would be his max. Good chance to see what he’s got.

    28. Juany8

      You know I just realized that all 4 of the teams playing tomorrow would have had game 7’s scheduled if they had lost. Golden State has 4 days of rest before the second round and they won in a game 6 like the rest of these teams, and that was the first second round series that had both teams set advance, they might have started today if Chicago had won the series. Real world logistics are helping the Spurs and Heat get a ton of rest so as to keep them all nice and healthy for the Finals lol. Kind of sucks, but then that’s why you need to close out teams early, so this kind of thing can’t happen.

    29. Frank

      I know this has been said before, but in retrospect, I’m not too unhappy that this series went to 6 games and that we nearly blew game 6 — if for no other reason than we saw Iman Shumpert play big in big spots on both sides of the ball. This was a coming-of-age series for him, both with how he basically dominated Paul Pierce on defense, and played amazingly under control for a guy who has barely a season and a half under his belt. Yes, he may have had a lapse or two, but his clutch 3 point shooting in game 1 (or was it 2?) right out of the half with the team down 6 and of course his performance in the closeout game were revelations.

      Shump played 21 minutes or less in the first 3 games, 44 minutes in the OT game, 29 minutes in game 5, and 37 minutes last night. I feel pretty confident that he won’t see south of 29 minutes again this postseason unless there’s foul trouble. Guy is a difference maker.

      And he still hasn’t had an actual offseason or training camp to work on his game yet.

    30. jon abbey

      the reasons I’m not glad it went six is the very short turnaround time to try to protect the crucial homecourt and Melo’s shoulder.

      Shump emerging like he has is crucial, though, ruru and I have been talking about that for months but so so so nice to actually see it.

    31. jon abbey

      who are we rooting for to give Miami a (slightly) harder time? Chicago obviously has way more heart, but they are running low on players and Miami might have trouble with Lopez/Williams.

    32. Z-man

      I guess I’m rooting for Chicago because I don’t want to share the spotlight with the Nets. On the other hand, If Rose comes back, the Bulls become pretty legit competition for the Heat, and maybe for us.

    33. johnlocke

      was thinking the same thing. I’m thinking Bulls….and then Derrick Rose magically is healthy. That would be awesome.

      jon abbey:
      who are we rooting for to give Miami a (slightly) harder time? Chicago obviously has way more heart, but they are running low on players and Miami might have trouble with Lopez/Williams.

    34. jon abbey

      it would be easier for me to root for Brooklyn (I have no ill will there) if they didn’t have that idiotic Brooooooook-lyn chant.

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