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Tuesday, September 2, 2014

Knicks Morning News (Saturday, Jun 01 2013)

  • [New York Daily News] Former MSG prez Mills leading candidate to head NBA player’s union (Sat, 01 Jun 2013 00:33:09 GMT)
    Former MSG president Steve Mills has emerged as the leading candidate to replace Billy Hunter as the executive director of the NBA player’s union, the Daily News has learned.    

  • [New York Times] Nets Are Said to Contact Jeff Van Gundy for Coaching Vacancy (Sat, 01 Jun 2013 03:16:19 GMT)
    Jeff Van Gundy, an ESPN analyst and a former Knicks coach, had brief contact with the Nets, a person with knowledge of the situation said Friday.    

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: LeBron James’s Solo Act Undergoes a Revival (Sat, 01 Jun 2013 01:32:27 GMT)
    While Dwyane Wade hobbled and Chris Bosh drifted in Game 5, LeBron James “just went back to my Cleveland days” to lead the Heat to victory and a 3-2 series lead over Indiana.    

  • [New York Times] Ujiri Leaves Denver for Toronto (Sat, 01 Jun 2013 01:18:26 GMT)
    Masai Ujiri, the N.B.A.’s executive of the year, is leaving the Nuggets to take over the basketball operations for the Raptors.    

  • [New York Times] Former N.B.A. Player Blaylock on Life Support After Crash (Sat, 01 Jun 2013 00:26:50 GMT)
    Mookie Blaylock was on life support in an Atlanta hospital after being involved in a car crash on Friday, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.    

  • [New York Times] Heat’s Andersen Suspended for Game 6 (Sat, 01 Jun 2013 00:15:14 GMT)
    Chris Andersen was suspended Friday by the N.B.A. for his altercation with Tyler Hansbrough, leaving Miami without one of their best big men as they try to finish off the Pacers.    

  • 50 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Saturday, Jun 01 2013)

    1. Spree8nyk8

      Something needs to be done about the anti flopping policy. If they are only going to be fined after the fact then the fine is going to have to be more substantial. Why is Lebron going to care about losing 10k if he can flop and draw a foul on George? Personally what I would like to see happen is for them to add a ref that can do nothing but review plays on the sideline or a booth or something. That would shorten replay issues. Maybe on a flop they could continue the play and if the replay ref determines a flop they could remove the foul from the opposing player and add either a technical or personal foul. All I know is 10k (for 2nd offense) isn’t doing anything to slow down flopping.

    2. Brian Cronin

      Something needs to be done about the anti flopping policy. If they are only going to be fined after the fact then the fine is going to have to be more substantial. Why is Lebron going to care about losing 10k if he can flop and draw a foul on George? Personally what I would like to see happen is for them to add a ref that can do nothing but review plays on the sideline or a booth or something. That would shorten replay issues. Maybe on a flop they could continue the play and if the replay ref determines a flop they could remove the foul from the opposing player and add either a technical or personal foul. All I know is 10k (for 2nd offense) isn’t doing anything to slow down flopping.

      I don’t think you should remove the foul. The technical alone is a lot of punishment. If players got assessed technicals every time they flopped, they would definitely stop doing it.

    3. Brian Cronin

      Heck, to save money, they could just have one centralized location where you have a few workers manning TV screens. Sort of like how in the NHL, they call NHL headquarters to check on close goals.

    4. Brian Cronin

      Congratulations to Grant Hill on a fine NBA career and just being an overall swell guy.

    5. Brian Cronin

      Interesting tweet from Simmons:

      Tyson Chandler and Iman Shumpert for Dwyane Wade… Who says no?

    6. yellowboy90

      Brian Cronin:
      Interesting tweet from Simmons:

      I would say no. include Chalmers and a guarantee wade has his blood spun and comes back 100 % we might have something

    7. Brian Cronin

      I have never seen something like this – Lebron just drove coast to coast for a layup and an Indy player tried to grab him but couldn’t even grab him!

      Indy answered this run with a huge three by George to go back up 7.

    8. Brian Cronin

      I would say no. include Chalmers and a guarantee wade has his blood spun and comes back 100 % we might have something

      His next tweet suggested something along those lines (Wade needing to spend his summer like Kobe spends his).

    9. yellowboy90

      it was paul george with the 3. I am impressed with Allen’s D on George more than wade’s D

    10. Brian Cronin

      Looks like we’re going to see a Game 7 in Miami! This has really been an awesome series.

    11. yellowboy90

      I don’t get that hibbert can jump into a player and bring his hands down. Tyson needs to be taught this.

      Melo needs to go to OKC’s school of flailing and Tyson needs to go to Indy’s school of defending the rim.

    12. Brian Cronin

      Hibbert’s just insanely strong. Like the Melo block – dude looked like he used the tip of his hand to completely push back on Melo’s attempt to dunk it. Same thing with the last Lebron drive. Lebron, one of the biggest physical forces in the game, a dude so fast and so strong that earlier no Indy player could even grab him when they were trying to intentionally foul him on a coast-to-coast fast break for a lay-up, just got completely shut down by Hibbert, strength against strength.

    13. er

      yellowboy90:
      I don’t get that hibbert can jump into a player and bring his hands down. Tyson needs to be taught this.

      Melo needs to go to OKC’s school of flailing and Tyson needs to go to Indy’s school of defending the rim.

      you mean lebrons school of flailing

    14. er

      no one expected bosh and wade to suck so hard…..man we couldve beaten the heat this yr smh

    15. Will the Thrill

      Hibbert can literally do no wrong for everyone covering the NBA or the referees. As much as I dislike the Heat, I can’t bring myself to root for the team that is being spoon-fed games by the refs. How in the world is that an offensive foul? No other big man in the NBA gets that call, and Hibbert would not get that call if not for his insane newfound respect by everyone.

    16. Will the Thrill

      Shut him down, but definitely not an offensive foul (could argue for a defensive foul easier than an offensive foul).

      Brian Cronin:
      Hibbert’s just insanely strong. Like the Melo block – dude looked like he used the tip of his hand to completely push back on Melo’s attempt to dunk it. Same thing with the last Lebron drive. Lebron, one of the biggest physical forces in the game, a dude so fast and so strong that earlier no Indy player could even grab him when they were trying to intentionally foul him on a coast-to-coast fast break for a lay-up, just got completely shut down by Hibbert, strength against strength.

    17. Brian Cronin

      Hibbert definitely gets a lot of calls his way because of this, as you describe nicely, newfound respect by everyone, but I disagree on that call. I think Lebron led with his elbow.

    18. er

      Will the Thrill:
      Hibbert can literally do no wrong for everyone covering the NBA or the referees. As much as I dislike the Heat, I can’t bring myself to root for the team that is being spoon-fed games by the refs. How in the world is that an offensive foul? No other big man in the NBA gets that call, and Hibbert would not get that call if not for his insane newfound respect by everyone.

      i also didnt understand how the restricted area rule was not in effect there

    19. yellowboy90

      er: you mean lebrons school of flailing

      no okc has a dedicated school putting out graduates like Durant and Harden. I go to LBJ for flopping

    20. Tony Pena

      er:
      no one expected bosh and wade to suck so hard…..man we couldve beaten the heat this yr smh

      Still won 66 games.

    21. Tony Pena

      er: are you drunk? wth does that have to do with the fact that they are in a do or die game

      Nah, I just don’t think we could’ve beaten the Heat as casually as you say it. Yeah, we match up better against them, but like I said, a very good team, WITH Wade gimpy.

    22. Hubert

      I really think we would’ve beaten these guys in 7 games if we were healthy.

      And another thing, since when did jumping straight up waive off all other fouls? These idiot announcers have been over focused on the jumping straight up crap. If you’re in the restricted area, and you block a player’s progress, it’s a blocking foul. It doesn’t get negated if you jump straight up. You can jump straight up or stand perfectly motionless. It doesn’t matter. If you impede a players progress in the restricted area it’s a defensive foul.

      Hibbert has his own rule book right now.

    23. yellowboy90

      I was surprised Spo didn’t put Bosh in for Anthony when the lead went down to four then leveled of at 10

    24. er

      Tony Pena: Nah, I just don’t think we could’ve beaten the Heat as casually as you say it. Yeah, we match up better against them, but like I said, a very good team, WITH Wade gimpy.

      what was casual? i said knicks could have beaten them. Wade and bosh are playing like shit. and the knicks played well against them in the season

    25. Tony Pena

      er:does that have to do with the fact that they are in a do or die game

      You’re right, Indiana is obviously a bum team that hasn’t stepped up in the playoffs.

    26. er

      Hubert:
      I really think we would’ve beaten these guys in 7 games if we were healthy.

      And another thing, since when did jumping straight up waive off all other fouls? These idiot announcers have been over focused on the jumping straight up crap.If you’re in the restricted area, and you block a player’s progress, it’s a blocking foul. It doesn’t get negated if you jump straight up. You can jump straight up or stand perfectly motionless. It doesn’t matter. If you impede a players progress in the restricted area it’s a defensive foul.

      Hibbert has his own rule book right now.

      thats whats i dont get, i thought that was the whole point of that restricted area.

    27. er

      Tony Pena: You’re right, Indiana is obviously a bum team that hasn’t stepped up in the playoffs.

      i dont know what you are trying to say. all i said is the knicks COULD have beaten the heat this year. You sound like a butthurt Heat fan

    28. Hubert

      Brian Cronin:
      Interesting tweet from Simmons:

      That man is an idiot.

      This is even more stupid than his “Grizzlie fans are nervous in the WCF bc MLK was shot in Memphis” bullshit.

    29. Brian Cronin

      I really think we would’ve beaten these guys in 7 games if we were healthy.

      And another thing, since when did jumping straight up waive off all other fouls? These idiot announcers have been over focused on the jumping straight up crap. If you’re in the restricted area, and you block a player’s progress, it’s a blocking foul. It doesn’t get negated if you jump straight up. You can jump straight up or stand perfectly motionless. It doesn’t matter. If you impede a players progress in the restricted area it’s a defensive foul.

      Hibbert has his own rule book right now.

      I do agree that they make too big of a deal over the whole “jump straight up” thing, but again, in that instance, Lebron hit him with an elbow right off the bat. That is the foul right there before anything Hibbert could do.

    30. Tony Pena

      Hubert:

      And another thing, since when did jumping straight up waive off all other fouls?

      I think it’s meant to equalize the area, since there’s no offensive fouls there. I guess it’s like a everything goes zone.

    31. Tony Pena

      er: i dont know what you are trying to say. all i said is the knicks COULD have beaten the heat this year. You sound like a butthurt Heat fan

      You sound like you’re drooling on your keyboard… never mind dude.

    32. massive

      I think it’s fair to say that Birdman has been the 2nd best player on the Heat since he’s been on that team. Bosh can’t score against Hibbert/West and Dwyane Wade’s knee/athleticism/lack of a jump-shot is holding him back (and it’s totally on Wade for being in the league 10 years and not having a jumper). No Birdman and the Heat lose by double digits for the first time all post-season. That is significant, and the Knicks should have signed him before Miami had the chance. Can you imagine if we signed BOTH K-Mart and Birdman? We’d still be playing basketball.

    33. yellowboy90

      massive:
      I think it’s fair to say that Birdman has been the 2nd best player on the Heat since he’s been on that team. Bosh can’t score against Hibbert/West and Dwyane Wade’s knee/athleticism/lack of a jump-shot is holding him back (and it’s totally on Wade for being in the league 10 years and not having a jumper). No Birdman and the Heat lose by double digits for the first time all post-season. That is significant, and the Knicks should have signed him before Miami had the chance. Can you imagine if we signed BOTH K-Mart and Birdman? We’d still be playing basketball.

      I agree with you on Wade and his jump shooting. It will make it hard for him to not just fall from being a good player as he age without that shot. I would point to Jason Kidd but he never shot the three as bad as Wade and Kidd always shot a decent number of 3s in a season. Wade has so many season where he is under 80 attempts.

    34. DRed

      yellowboy90: I agree with you on Wade and his jump shooting. It will make it hard for him to not just fall from being a good player as he age without that shot. I would point to Jason Kidd but he never shot the three as bad as Wade and Kidd always shot a decent number of 3s in a season. Wade has so many season where he is under 80 attempts.

      Jason Kidd is also much bigger than Wade, and his game wasn’t about his elite ability to get to the rim. Wade is a jacked dude for a smaller guy, but he’s played a lot of games and taken a pounding over the years, and it’s catching up to him. If he wasn’t such a douchebag I’d say it was sad. I’d like the Heat to win game 7 just to see Lebron have to play the Spurs by himself again-I think this time he’s got a better chance to pull it off.

    35. yellowboy90

      I think Kidd’s and Wade size are pretty close. Maybe these past 3-4 yrs Kidd has played about 10 lbs heavier than Wade.

    36. mr.JayP

      The biggest thing IMO about this game was after the game was done.

      Mia’s face was blank. Like there were in shock that they are in a game 7.

      Ind actually and truly believes they can win.

      Last time a team had that look against Mia was Dallas.

      If they can protect the ball, limit turnovers while still move the ball freely. Ind wins game 7.

    37. mr.JayP

      And to be completely honest. Ind was/is a better team than us right now. And we wouldn’t be able to beat the heat in a 7 game series the way we were going.

    38. DRed

      yellowboy90:
      I think Kidd’s and Wade size are pretty close. Maybe these past 3-4 yrs Kidd has played about 10 lbs heavier than Wade.

      Turn out you were right and I was wrong. But Kidd’s style of play is much less physical than Wade’s. Wade takes much more of beating that Kidd. Being able to play at a high level until you’re 40 is pretty rare.As tough as Dwayne is, he still seems to be breaking down much earlier than Jason.

    39. yellowboy90

      DRed: Turn out you were right and I was wrong.But Kidd’s style of play is much less physical than Wade’s.Wade takes much more of beating that Kidd.Being able to play at a high level until you’re 40 is pretty rare.As tough as Dwayne is, he still seems to be breaking down much earlier than Jason.

      I agree totally about their styles of play. If Kidd returns he needs to take the Shannon Sharpe/ Toney Gonzalez approach and lose about 5 -10 lbs. It’s a different sport but the principle is the same. It’s interesting to me how older football players seem to lose weight as the near retirement and basketball players look like they add weight as they get older. I know that’s not the case for everyone but it seems like it. Maybe its because Bballers are just bigger individuals.

    40. yellowboy90

      Brian Cronin: I do agree that they make too big of a deal over the whole “jump straight up” thing, but again, in that instance, Lebron hit him with an elbow right off the bat. That is the foul right there before anything Hibbert could do.

      THe more I look at the more I have to respectfully disagree about it being a foul on James. The elbow wasn’t really that extended and his Knee didn’t look that bad. Hibbert has the “Lebron Whistle” when it comes to rim protection.

    41. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      “Y’all m————- don’t watch us play throughout the year to tell you the truth,” Hibbert said. “So that’s fine. I’m going to be real with you, and I don’t care if I get fined. We play and we’re not on TV all of the time and reporters are the ones that are voting and it is what it is. And I don’t make it, that’s fine. I’m still going to do what I have to do.”

      Yes. This. Exactly.

      You may be an idiot with that “no homo” shit, but you are so on-point when it comes to media awards.

      Narrative, narrative, narrative…

    42. massive

      Roy Hibbert was not playing this well during the season. He needs to stop complaining about not getting recognition up until this postseason when he hasn’t played well until this postseason. And his team is still at the mercy of a “LeBron: God of Basketball” game like he did to the Celtics in Game 6 last season.

    43. lavor postell

      All credit to Indiana but their entire team needs to shut the fuck up about this whole disrespect thing. Since they beat New York all they’ve gotten is love from the mainstream media and the league officials. These are not the 2011 Mavericks shutting Lebron completely down and surviving a D-Wade onslaught back when he was still Flash. Shit if JR could have simply shot around his regular season average TS% and Kidd made one three every game we are probably looking at the Knicks taking Miami to 7. Unfortunately he didn’t and let’s not even get into the fucking whistle in that series.

      I really can’t see either of these teams defeating San Antonio at this point, though I’d give Indiana the edge because of how good they are defensively. This obviously is also aided by the fact that Hibbert can do no wrong since he jumps straight up and this absolves him of all wrongs.

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