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Knicks Morning News (Saturday, Jul 28 2012)

  • [New York Post] Deron: Nets fans will show (Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:42:01 -0500)
    LONDON â?? Deron Williams delivered a prediction yesterday from the Olympic Games â?? count on more Nets fans than Knicks fans being at Barclays Center for the team’s first home game in Brooklyn on Nov. 1.
    The Nets superstar point guard despised playing in Newark, where Knicks and Heat fans invaded…

  • [New York Post] Melo a ‘supporter’ of Lin, but says Knicks made right offseason moves (Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:04:26 -0500)
    LONDON â?? Carmelo Anthony says he can juggle both sentiments, feeling great about the Knicks’ offseason while also being a “true supporter” of banished point guard Jeremy Lin.
    Before Friday night’s Opening Ceremonies, Anthony was in true Olympian form, leaping past the notion he was instrumental in the Knicks not…

  • [New York Times] Basketball Preview: LeBron James and Krzyzewski Grow Closer Through Olympics (Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:47:02 GMT)
    As the United States basketball team climbed from bronze medal disappointment in 2004 to heavy favorite at these Olympics, LeBron James and Mike Krzyzewski went from relative strangers to trusted confidants.

  • [New York Times] Robin Lopez Traded to Hornets (Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:20:13 GMT)
    The Hornets, Suns and Timberwolves have completed a three-team deal that will send 7-foot center Robin Lopez and forward Hakim Warrick from Phoenix to New Orleans, while moving forward Wes Johnson and a future first-round draft pick from Minnesota to the Suns.

  • [New York Times] China Beat Czech Republic in Women’s Basketball Group A (Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:19:34 GMT)
    China beat Czech Republic 66-57 at the Basketball Arena in London in the Olympic women’s basketball Group A at the 2012 London Games on Saturday.

  • [New York Daily News] ‘Melo denies helping run Lin out of Big Apple (Sat, 28 Jul 2012 04:07:54 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony dismissed the notion that he helped to run Jeremy Lin out of New York, saying “believe it or not I’ve been one of the true supporters of Jeremy Lin.”

  • [New York Daily News] Brooklyn will Net fans in opener, Williams says (Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:19:54 GMT)
    Deron Williams is okay if Knicks fans invade Brooklyn for the season opener for both teams on Nov. 1 for one simple reason.

  • [New York Daily News] Robinson stays mum on Rucker Park shooting (Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:23:04 GMT)
    Nate Robinson refused to go into any details about what he witnessed late Wednesday night when he was caught in gunfire at Rucker Park and escaped without being shot.

  • 11 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Saturday, Jul 28 2012)

    1. er

      Deron Williams STFU…….you cant be mad at a non existent fanbase when the owners openly say we are just effing around until we move to Brooklyn. Yea you will get plenty of support with that mantra. If the Nets played in Newark in the good Kidd years the place would have been rocking. And in terms of the opening game, once again STFU you are out of your mind if you think more net than nix fans will be there.

      As far as melo goes im sure every one on this board will say he is lying and continue to blame him and call him jealous of lin so it is what it is as he famously likes to say

    2. Z-man

      Looking ahead, when can the Knicks start to consider trading the new acquisitions? Say we conclude that we need more perimeter offense at the 2, can we package guys like Thomas, Brewer, White and Copeland? Or if Prigioni turns out to be really good, could Kidd be theoretically dealt? Not suggesting we make any such moves, just wondering.

    3. er

      i think its dec or jan

      Z-man:
      Looking ahead, when can the Knicks start to consider trading the new acquisitions? Say we conclude that we need more perimeter offense at the 2, can we package guys like Thomas, Brewer, White and Copeland? Or if Prigioni turns out to be really good, could Kidd be theoretically dealt? Not suggesting we make any such moves, just wondering.

    4. bob cook

      Message of cheer:
      For those folks who figure we can’t catch Boston which partly stems from PTSD over not signing Lin.
      Consider that last year we finished a couple of games behind Boston despite STAT coming off injury and many other injuries (including LIN) but the mind blower is starting the season our point guard was TDDWTDD with Baron Davis functioning as mid season saviour (not). And forum members are complaining about Felton, Kidd and what’s his face from Argentina. Huh?

    5. ruruland

      Guys on the bus were laughing and giving him some flak. But Melo said, ‘I liked the kid. I wanted him back.’ You say that on the bus when no cameras are around and you know that’s how he really feels.”

      -Tyson Chandler on Melo-Jeremy Lin “ridiculous” contract statement.

      http://www.hoopsworld.com/six-pack-ridiculous-reaction-to-melos-comment/

      “Ridiculous Reaction to Melo’s “Ridiculous Contract” comment
      James Dolan isn’t the only one to come off looking poorly in this whole Linsanity mess – it wasn’t the media’s finest hour either. Earlier I alluded to how many in the media missed the point on the Linsanity decision. In addition, on a related note, I had to laugh at the reaction to Carmelo Anthony’s supposedly inflammatory remarks regarding whether or not the Knicks should/would match the Rockets’ offer sheet.

      For those that may have missed it, when the exact specifications of the offer Lin received from Houston was made public, reporters rushed to Melo (who was in D.C. practicing with the Olympic Team) for his take on the topic. Per the AP, he was first asked if he could envision Lin returning to the Knicks next season. His response: ”At this point there’s a lot going on. I stay away from that part right now. I would love to see him back, but I think he has to do what’s best for him right now.”

      Anthony was then reminded it’s up to the Knicks, not Lin, to decide whether he stays or goes. ”It’s not up to me,” Anthony said with a laugh. ”It’s up to the organization to say they want to match that ridiculous contract that’s out there.”

      Now, having a front row seat for the contentious battle between Melo and the New York tabloids, I am always amused at the media’s ability to twist a quote to fit into a prefabricated construct. But, I must admit, even I was surprised to see this “offensive and insulting” comment used to portray Melo as vicious opponent of Lin returning to NYC.

      ………..

    6. ruruland

      “The key here, for those aiming to paint Melo in as bad a light as possible, is to take the quote entirely out of context, i.e. completely ignore and disregard the fact that Anthony said 30 seconds earlier that he would “love” to see Lin return to New York. But that’s just the first step…

      The next move is asserting that Melo was insinuating that Lin is a scrub who doesn’t deserve a major pay raise, when in fact the adjective “ridiculous” referred to the structure of the back-loaded contract, not whether or not the recipient was deserving of the sum total of $24.9 million.

      Although it’s besides the point, if we are all going to be honest, the contract was relatively “ridiculous” and a bit bizarre. How many three-year contracts, in any walk of life, pay 150% more for the third year of service than the first two years of service combined? Wouldn’t any contract that included a so-called “poison pill” be deemed somewhat outlandish? Would even Daryl Morey argue this point?

      Asked later for a clarification of what he actually meant, Melo responded: “It was ridiculous for them to do what they did, as far as throwing that out there and making it tougher on us to sign him back.” Melo added: “Ask Lin, he’ll tell you what a good relationship we have… I hope we get it done, man. I would love to see him back, honestly. I would definitely love to see him back.” (For the complete story, including full quotes, click here)

      But that part of the story, which wouldn’t create nearly as many headlines or generate the same number of page views, was drastically under reported relative to the “ridiculous” attention the first quote received.

      In the days that followed the initial comment, Melo was pounded publicly, some even going so far as to call him a racist because he suggested Asian players didn’t deserve that kind of payday. I mean, you can’t make this stuff up…
      …………..

    7. ruruland

      ………For a clear, concrete depiction of my point here, check out the Twitter timeline of Newsday’s reporter Rod Boone (@rodboone). Boone was on the scene that day standing next to Melo and was one of the first reporters to spread word or Anthony’s remarks. Examining Boone’s timeline a few days later, I was fascinated to find which quote got the most interest and attention.

      Melo’s “ridiculous contract” quote was re-tweeted a total of 505 times. In contrast, Melo’s “I’d love to see him come back” quote was re-tweeted just 27 times. These two quotes were posted within minutes of each other. Shortly after the quotes went up, Boone explained: “To be clear, melo wasn’t taking a shot at Lin, he was taking a shot at Rockets for ridiculous $14.9 million balloon payment in Year 3.” That tweet was RT’ed just 22 times.

      But the toothpaste was already out of the tube. It wasn’t going to get put back in neatly. Those with an agenda had heard all they needed to; they certainly weren’t going to let facts or the complete picture and the quotes in full context get in the way of what could be a story that would help sell newspapers and generate clicks.

      Now, Melo isn’t completely blameless here either. He has been in New York long enough to understand that the media will twist comments as needed to manufacture controversy. Anthony’s lack of savvy when dealing with the New York tabloids is almost inconceivable. Somehow, he still hasn’t learned that a simple “no comment” might just be his best friend when talking with reporters. Melo has buried himself time and again by trying to be accommodating and saying what is on his mind. Carmelo needs to take a page out of Derek Jeter’s book and give the most boring answer possible. Discretion is often the better part of valor when dealing with headline writers thirsty for a back page tagline that will get passersby to cough up a few quarters for that day’s paper.”

    8. knickfan92

      ruruland:
      Guys on the bus were laughing and giving him some flak. But Melo said, ‘I liked the kid. I wanted him back.’ You say that on the bus when no cameras are around and you know that’s how he really feels.”

      -Tyson Chandler on Melo-Jeremy Lin “ridiculous” contract statement.

      http://www.hoopsworld.com/six-pack-ridiculous-reaction-to-melos-comment/

      “Ridiculous Reaction to Melo’s “Ridiculous Contract” comment
      James Dolan isn’t the only one to come off looking poorly in this whole Linsanity mess – it wasn’t the media’s finest hour either. Earlier I alluded to how many in the media missed the point on the Linsanity decision. In addition, on a related note, I had to laugh at the reaction to Carmelo Anthony’s supposedly inflammatory remarks regarding whether or not the Knicks should/would match the Rockets’ offer sheet.

      For those that may have missed it, when the exact specifications of the offer Lin received from Houston was made public, reporters rushed to Melo (who was in D.C. practicing with the Olympic Team) for his take on the topic. Per the AP, he was first asked if he could envision Lin returning to the Knicks next season. His response: ”At this point there’s a lot going on. I stay away from that part right now. I would love to see him back, but I think he has to do what’s best for him right now.”

      Anthony was then reminded it’s up to the Knicks, not Lin, to decide whether he stays or goes. ”It’s not up to me,” Anthony said with a laugh. ”It’s up to the organization to say they want to match that ridiculous contract that’s out there.”

      Now, having a front row seat for the contentious battle between Melo and the New York tabloids, I am always amused at the media’s ability to twist a quote to fit into a prefabricated construct. But, I must admit, even I was…

    9. sidestep

      I didn’t realize the “love to see him back” and “ridiculous” comments were part of the same interview. That _is_ really tendentious reporting, deliberately misleading even.
      Lin has said after the hoohah that he and Melo are on good terms and something to the effect that Melo was supportive of him. Both dudes are saying the same thing, so there’s good reason to take what they both said at face value.

    10. er

      That wont happen bro, Melo is darth vader in these parts

      sidestep:
      I didn’t realize the “love to see him back” and “ridiculous” comments were part of the same interview. That _is_ really tendentious reporting, deliberately misleading even.
      Lin has said after the hoohah that he and Melo are on good terms and something to the effect that Melo was supportive of him. Both dudes are saying the same thing, so there’s good reason to take what they both said at face value.

    11. Jafa

      er:
      Deron Williams STFU…….you cant be mad at a non existent fanbase when the owners openly say we are just effing around until we move to Brooklyn. Yea you will get plenty of support with that mantra.If the Nets played in Newark in the good Kidd years the place would have been rocking. And in terms of the opening game, once again STFU you are out of your mind if you think more net than nix fans will be there.

      As far as melo goes im sure every one on this board will say he is lying and continue to blame him and call him jealous of lin so it is what it is as he famously likes to say

      Dude,
      You must live in Manhattan or something. Brooklyn sports fans have a different mentality. They will support NY teams but have been dying to support something from Brooklyn. Right now, there are more people wearing Nets gear (hats, shirts, etc.) than Knicks gear in Brooklyn. They will definitely come out and supports their own.

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