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Knicks Morning News (Saturday, Dec 31 2011)

  • [New York Daily News] Ankle injury may keep Amar’e out vs. Kings (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:02:38 GMT)
    Amar’e Stoudemire may miss Saturday’s game against the Sacramento Kings with a sprained left ankle. Stoudemire suffered injury in final minutes of loss to Lakers Thursday night.

  • [New York Daily News] D’Antoni, Knicks missing the points down stretch (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:11:05 GMT)
    Maybe the Knicks, starting with Mike D’Antoni’s immediate superiors, placed such a strong emphasis on defense that they inadvertently undermined the head coach’s greatest strength: coaching offense.

  • [New York Times] Off to 1-2 Start, Knicks Preach ‘No Panic’ Mantra (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 06:39:07 GMT)
    Off to a 1-2 start, the Knicks are already looking to Baron Davis to provide some help to Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire, even though Davis is at least five weeks away from playing.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Hawks Stay Undefeated and Hand Nets a Third Straight Loss (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 06:30:39 GMT)
    Jeff Teague scored 22 points for Atlanta, and the Nets rookie MarShon Brooks scored 21 but made a crucial mistake in the final minutes.

  • [New York Times] Bulls Pull Away in 4th to Beat Clippers 114-101 (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 06:27:34 GMT)
    Derrick Rose had 29 points and 16 assists, and the Chicago Bulls pulled away in the fourth quarter to beat the Los Angeles Clippers 114-101 Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Bench Carry Champion Dallas to First Win (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:51:29 GMT)
    The defending NBA champion Dallas Mavericks beat the Toronto Raptors 99-86 on Friday for their first win of the season boosted by 56 points from their reserves.

  • [New York Times] Favors Scores 20 Points to Lift Jazz Over Sixers (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 05:03:55 GMT)
    Derrick Favors scored a career-high 20 points and added 11 rebounds in his first start at center for Utah, and the Jazz beat the Philadelphia 76ers 102-99 in their home opener Friday night to avoid their first 0-3 start in 32 years.

  • [New York Times] Jennings, Bucks Keep Wizards Winless, 102-81 (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:27:33 GMT)
    Brandon Jennings scored 15 of his 22 points in the second half to lead the Milwaukee Bucks to a 102-81 victory over the winless Washington Wizards on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Mavs Beat Raptors 99-86 for First Win (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:15:33 GMT)
    Reserve center Ian Mahinmi scored a career-high 19 points, Dirk Nowitzki contributed 18, and the reigning NBA champion Dallas Mavericks rallied for their first victory of the season, 99-86 over the Toronto Raptors on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Wade, James Hold Off Timberwolves (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:57:52 GMT)
    Dwyane Wade wasn’t about to let the Minnesota Timberwolves spoil LeBron James’ birthday.

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Beat Rockets 113-93 for First Win (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:48:41 GMT)
    Zach Randolph scored 23 points, Marc Gasol added 20, and the Memphis Grizzlies earned their first victory of the season, beating the Houston Rockets 113-93 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] O’Neal Leads Celts to 1st Win, 96-85 Over Pistons (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:21:38 GMT)
    Jermaine O’Neal scored 19 points as he and the Boston Celtics ended a dismal start to their season with a 96-85 victory in their home opener over the Detroit Pistons on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Teague, Johnson Lead Hawks Past Nets (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:24:38 GMT)
    Jeff Teague scored 22 points, Joe Johnson added 21 and the Atlanta Hawks won their third straight game to open the season, beating the New Jersey Nets105-98 on Friday night.

  • [New York Times] Granger Leads Pacers in 98-91 OT Win Over Cavs (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 04:45:42 GMT)
    Another ugly game, another win for the Indiana Pacers.

  • [New York Times] Howard’s 20-20 Game Powers Magic Past Bobcats (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:15:35 GMT)
    Dwight Howard had 20 points and 24 rebounds, Ryan Anderson scored 23 points, and the Orlando Magic beat the Charlotte Bobcats 100-79 on Friday night for their third straight victory.

  • [New York Times] Wade Starts for Heat vs. Wolves Despite Sore Foot (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 00:39:34 GMT)
    Miami Heat star Dwyane Wade was in the starting lineup against the Minnesota Timberwolves on Friday night after being considered a game-time decision with a sore left foot.

  • [New York Post] Knicks coach advises injured Amar’e to relax (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 05:53:52 -0500)
    LOS ANGELES â?? Take a deep breath, Amar’e.
    That was yesterday’s message from coach Mike D’Antoni to slumping Amar’e Stoudemire and his reeling Knicks.
    The coach said the club is “pressing” because of the big expectations this season, especially the Knicks’ All-Star power forward.
    In the Knicks…

  • [New York Post] Balky-backed Baron preaches some patience (Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:20:01 -0500)
    LOS ANGELES â?? Sore-backed Baron Davis said the club’s 1-2 start should be not cause for alarm, feeling the rushed training camp has hurt the Knicks more than most teams.Of course, that Davis still hasn’t played also hurts. Davis, battling a herniated disk, wants to be “100 percent…

  • 51 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Saturday, Dec 31 2011)

    1. Juany8

      You know for all the complaining about the Knicks losses, Dallas and Boston are 1-3 with wins against terrible teams, the darling Clippers are 1-2 and have been blown out twice, most teams seem to be following crazy wins with terrible losses in general. Maybe we should give every team a week or two to work out the kinks in their roster.

    2. LMNYKFAN4LIFE

      ok guys i must say again we don’t need anything we just need to maximize our players play to there strengths use good player management. its a short season mda needs to keep fresh legs on the floor. we need to hustle and we cant hustle if everybody is tired. i agree with melo n amare pic n roll that’s a good idea since amare can shoot n drive n finish strong and i don’t think amare has back problems i think its the total opposite i think he has put so much muscle in n that extra half in he has in his back adjustment has him of by inches n we all know that basketball like football is a game of inches. he needs to practice his shots more not so much his three pointers and i agree he needs to get a post game back to basket i think that will make him the complete player. td just needs to be used as a spot up shooter and when melo’s out there use him to facilitate and when we are up let him run ISO to use up the clock n find open teammates and then they can spread the floor. when he sirs put in bibby that’s what we got him for hes obviously better than td at passing the ball even i could see that. melo and balkman have chemistry use them together they have played together in Denver use that when you rest amare when these are the lineups i would use during the game in certain situations see next blog

    3. LMNYKFAN4LIFE

      td fields melo novak and chandler here you lose defense but you don’t lose offense with novack’s three ball prowess but you can rest amare

      bibby fields balkman amare and Jerome Jordan ok you might lose melo but you can run the pic n roll or pop with bibby and amare you gain speed hustle and don’t lose rebounding or size while adding some deeper shots from the center position and you have fields and balkman who are both hustlers so they can compensate for the loss of scoring with some rebounding without losing some defense

      td walker melo amare n Jordan now this is perfect when you need turnovers and speed on your floor all are tall except your point but are very quick on the feet they are slashers make sure they go to the basket and attack with this squad cause foul trouble leave amare ten to fifteen feet away to shoot or blow past the defender have Jordan hover in the 12 feet and under range opposite amare whoever slashes either shoots or passes if shot Jordan and amare crash the boards the other two go back on d this will work best with teams that have quick guards and good rebounders like the Celtics

      if you want defense you get td fields walker/balkman amare and chandler you put walker on the slow sf and balkman on the tall sm like gallo you have your pickpockets in td and fields and walker you have your rebounding and inside grit in chandler amare and balkman this would be the perfect time when you need to sit melo in the third and rest your other players by playing zone you can play a 2 3 zone with balkman and a 3 2 zone with walker with walker as your middle defending guard these are great ideas if you ask me and all plausible in a long season

    4. LMNYKFAN4LIFE

      sorry guys i know i already posted this the day before but i needed some actual comments to see if you guys think i make any sense just being honest i love my knicks and these are just 3 games but the knicks will gel and the Knicks will play better d more consistently i truly believe that and amare said this is a must win n if you remember last year when he said that things changed then got bad then he got ticked iof put the team on the bus and we started really winning like i said before he is our team leader and Carmelo is our finisher we have all the pieces we just have to play them right

    5. chrisk06811

      OK…… 1-2 is by no means worthy of a panic. but, suppose we hit 1-3? If we do, I’ll change my focus to….which knick is most likely to have a “truck party”? It’s a tough question, now that Andy Routins is gone!!

      Seriously……66 games is still a pretty long season. plenty of time to gel. plenty of time to get healthy.

    6. daJudge

      Yesterday at my “Y” league I was asked to declare my allegiance in front of a bunch of the guys—”Who are you going for tonight, Jimmer or the Knicks?” The only answer I could think of without facing prolonged ridicule was, “Knicks win, Jimmer drops 21.” Glad Jimmer’s Dad was out of the gym yesterday.

    7. d-mar

      The following lock playoff teams have records that are the same or worse than the Knicks:

      Boston 1-3
      Phila. 1-2
      Clips 1-2
      Grizz 1-2
      Dallas 1-3

      I know the way that we lost to GS and LA was more disturbing than the results, but we all need to take a breath and chill out a little (Berman used words today like “disastrous trip” and “reeling” but of course we shouldn’t expect any sense of perspective from him) This team will figure it out at some point, just like they did last year, and like the Heat did last year after a 9-8 start with some awful losses (ok fire away, I know we’re not the Heat, but there are some similarities in terms of learning to play together)

      Think about the first half against Boston, there’s no reason we can’t play like that on a more consistent basis. (now of course if we start the season 1-9, I’ll join the rest of you guys on the ledge!)

    8. bobneptune

      d-mar:
      The following lock playoff teams have records that are the same or worse than the Knicks:

      Boston 1-3
      Phila. 1-2
      Clips 1-2
      Grizz 1-2
      Dallas 1-3

      I know the way that we lost to GS and LA was more disturbing than the results, but we all need to take a breath and chill out a little (Berman used words today like “disastrous trip” and “reeling” but of course we shouldn’t expect any sense of perspective from him) This team will figure it out at some point, just like they did last year, and like the Heat did last year after a 9-8 start with some awful losses (ok fire away, I know we’re not the Heat, but there are some similarities in terms of learning to play together)

      Think about the first half against Boston, there’s no reason we can’t play like that on a more consistent basis. (now of course if we start the season 1-9, I’ll join the rest of you guys on the ledge!)

      d-mar,

      i don’t think anyone is on the ledge, just being objective. i believe we have learned a number of important things:

      1…. td and fields is not a starting back court that can take the knicks anywhere no matter how many stars are in the front court.

      2… amar’e is virtually useless without a pg that is deft at initiating a pnr. with a good (not even great pg like felton) he is a borderline all nba pf

      3… just because you paid a 7’1″ guy $58,000,000 doesn’t mean he is going to score more than his career average of 2.1 baskets a game. he is a complimentary piece to the puzzle.

      4… shumpert’s 7 shots from the restricted area and top end athleticism in the first 70% of game one looks pretty important to the overall picture.

      5…. they aren’t going anywhere without an increase in performance from the point of biblical proportions.

      6…. a coach that doesn’t install a zone defense or ever run a curl play or run a wing player off staggered…

    9. Frank O.

      Stat with a sprained ankle.
      Can we get a break, please?
      I agree that no one should draw any conclusions about this season.
      Seven new guys, no preseason, thin bench…this is a team that will hit its stride 30 games in at least. They are bringing in a new D coach.
      Lots of changes.
      For those who say D’Antoni isn’t adaptive I can only respectfully call bullshit. He’s been handed seven teams in four years and each time he had a team playing better, he had a host of guys ripped from him. Remember Z-Bo and Crawford? That team was starting to play well, then a trade. Remember the Gallo, WC, Mosgov squad? They were starting to gel, then a trade. then he finally started getting wins with Melo, Amare and Billups, before Billups and Amare went down in the playoffs.
      And also remember he’s almost never run full ssol. He’s run PnRs, isos, half court with Billups. he’s done nothing but adapt. There simply is no fair way to blame this on D’Antoni. It’s okay not to like him or his style. Every one is entitled to their tastes. But the ups and downs of this team have virtually nothing to do with his coaching. If ever he’s had a team for more than 30 games, the team has improved.
      Last, he hasn’t had a consistent point since Felton, and he was flawed at that. Billups was out and he has no point now. No team can do well without a ball handler. So, I suffer through these games, but blame isn’t fair right now. Time

    10. mase

      im going on record to say i think its time we look at Arenas; seeing what he did in the playoffs last year against ATL he is one one of the best in the pick and roll and as a third scoring option he would take the pressure off.

      do we have the ability to sign him based on cap restrictions?

    11. d-mar

      @10 Bob, all fair points, and obviously we’re going to struggle without a true PG.

      I was more addressing the “we’ve got the wrong 2 stars” and “we’ve got the wrong coach” crowd. Just way too early to be making either of those assessments.

    12. d-mar

      And for the STAT bashers out there, Deron Williams is shooting 34% from the field so far, so I guess he sucks too. Just way too early to be trashing players after 3 or 4 games.

    13. ess-dog

      Who do you think starts in place of Stoud tonight? Jorts???
      Egad, Novak?
      Boy, are we thin.
      Maybe Melo slides to pf, Fields to sf and TD and Bibby play the 2 and 1 respectively?
      Jeez, this game could get ugly fast.

    14. Ben R

      Looking at our absolute lack of frontcourt depth I think it has to be Balkman. Novak is a sieve, Walker would make us too small, and Jorts/Jordan are not ready.

      Whatever we do we need to limit Bibby minutes, it is painful watching him out there.

    15. Frank O.

      Z: No thanks, I’ll take the sprain.

      Glory is a fickle bitch. ;)
      Before year’s out, we’ ll all be cheering Amare. He’s a class dude, and he works hard.

    16. Robert Silverman (@BobSaietta)

      JORTS JORTS JORTS JORTS! Heck, since we’re going to lose anyway, we might as well go for some comedy in the midst of this unfolding tragedy.

    17. ElSom07

      mase:
      im going on record to say i think its time we look at Arenas; seeing what he did in the playoffs last year against ATL he is one one of the best in the pick and roll and as a third scoring option he would take the pressure off.

      do we have the ability to sign him based on cap restrictions?

      Arenas!!! We don’t need anymore guns in NYC. Besides his locker room behavior can disrupt the team’s chemistry, we do not need another inefficient chucker. His eFG% has not been above .500 since he was 24. He also has a history of injuries, so based off of these two facts, I do not believe he can really help this team at this moment. Hell, the ghost of Mike Bibby could offer more to the team now, even Andy Rautins (hope we consider Andy before Gilbert). Jeremy Lin is more helpful to the team, we just need to give him playing time with the second or third team before evaluating his use to the team. We should do this before we find another has-been or no-name d-leaguer.

      I agree with Frank-O, in that we should wait and let Pringles get a feel for his team and find the proper rotation that will help improve the knicks. There are some quick fixes that can help the team before we get Baron and Shumpert back. First, if we could tell Jorts not too shoot every single time he touches the ball. Second, tell Melo to evaluate his options before he decides to put the ball on the floor after clearing the pick. The PnR would be dangerous. There were multiple times during the last two games where I was screaming at my TV because Amare and Chandler were a full step ahead of the defenders and Melo decided to play Iso basketball with limited room away from his defender(s) after clearing the pick. These are the 2 things that the coach could easily get the message across in a practice (wish there was more time for practice).

    18. Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)

      Question – the Knicks aren’t allowed to bring Rautins back, correct? I thought the NBA added a new rule that said that traded players cannot re-sign with their former team if they are waived by their new team. Is that correct?

    19. BigBlueAL

      Amazing to see how bad Gallo’s jumper is right now. He is shooting some straight up bricks at the moment.

    20. BigBlueAL

      WOW, Gallo had a wide-open 3pter to take the lead with 30 secs left and he missed the rim, hit only backboard it looked like. He would fit right in with the Knicks right now lol

    21. BigBlueAL

      OMG now Gallo just missed a wide open fastbreak layup to tie the game with a few secs left. Lakers announcers are giving it to him lol

    22. BigBlueAL

      Garson:
      Can we buy low on him right now?

      His confidence right now has to be at an all-time low. For the season (granted only 4 games but apparently 3 games is enough at this site to say the Knicks suck so 4 games is an eternity) he is 15 for 44 including 2 for 16 from 3pt range. His FT shooting has been his saving grace.

    23. bobneptune

      Frank O.:
      Stat with a sprained ankle.
      Can we get a break, please?

      yeah…. playing boston sans pierce, gs sans curry and lal sans bynum wasn’t lucky enough, eh?

    24. BigBlueAL

      bobneptune: yeah…. playing boston sans pierce, gs sans curry and lal sans bynum wasn’t lucky enough, eh?

      Agreed but tonight Knicks will be w/o 3 of arguably their top 7 players and thats not counting Baron Davis. No excuses though because a bunch of teams are dealing with stuff like this and will be doing so the entire season.

    25. daJudge

      I’m going to calm back down and try hard to be fair and reasonable with this team. My frustration is based on my own unrealistic expectations and a kind of arrogance that comes from being a spectator with a modicum of knowledge. I’m going to give the Coach a chance to pull this together and the players the opportunity to learn to trust each other and play together. I’m going to try to be a rational and patient fan. I will no longer claim objectivity, since it is, a priori, absurd. This is my New Year’s resolution, which probably will be broken tonight.

    26. Ben R

      Gallo’s shot is broken right now but I like how he’s expanded his game. He is handling the ball a lot more and looks really comfortable doing it. Also his defense on Kobe was strong today. He frustrated Kobe, so did Afflalo.

      You have to feel bad for the guy though that lay-up miss was brutal.

      As for tonight, we really need to give Balkman the start, he’s the only Knick to post a positive +/- every game and is a positive force on the defense and doesn’t make boneheaded offensive plays like seemingly half our team right now.

    27. BigBlueAL

      Ben R:
      Gallo’s shot is broken right now but I like how he’s expanded his game. He is handling the ball a lot more and looks really comfortable doing it. Also his defense on Kobe was strong today. He frustrated Kobe, so did Afflalo.

      You have to feel bad for the guy though that lay-up miss was brutal.

      As for tonight, we really need to give Balkman the start, he’s the only Knick to post a positive +/- every game and is a positive force on the defense and doesn’t make boneheaded offensive plays like seemingly half our team right now.

      He looks real quick too. Much faster/quicker than he ever looked as a Knick. Also his ball-handling looks great too but the problem is he just cant shoot now.

    28. chrisk06811

      mase: im going on record to say i think its time we look at Arenas; seeing what he did in the playoffs last year against ATL he is one one of the best in the pick and roll and as a third scoring option he would take the pressure off.do we have the ability to sign him based on cap restrictions?

      Gilbert can’t shoot anymore…..since they took his gun away!!!

      please don’t tell him I said that.

    29. Ben R

      BigBlueAL: He looks real quick too.Much faster/quicker than he ever looked as a Knick.Also his ball-handling looks great too but the problem is he just cant shoot now.

    30. Ben R

      I meant to comment on the above. I agree about his quickness. One would think he’ll find his shot again. If he does he’ll be a realy nice player for Denver. Kinda the player we hoped him to be. His athleticism is deceptive and much better than we saw.

    31. ElSom07

      It’s great that Harrelson is getting playing time as a second round draft pick.

      A few questions about tonight’s game.
      1) Would you anticipate that Balkman would get more than 15 minutes of playing time now that Amar’e is out?

      2) Can we slow down the game so Tyreke Evans and Marcus Thornton will not have a field day?

      3) Does your stomach cringe knowing that Bibby will cover Jimmer when the second unit plays? Is there any chance we can have Lin cover Jimmer?

      4) I feel very confident that Novak will score above 8 points tonight. Who else is going to score for our second unit (besides Walker)?

      5) I am actually excited to see how we look without Amar’e for an entire game. Some of the bright moments during the last couple of games came when Amar’e was on the bench and Melo was commanding the offense, vice-versa.

    32. daJudge

      ElSom07
      1. yes
      2. maybe, but wouldn’t bet the farm.
      3. See Comment #7. Split loyalties
      4. Why not?
      5. Me too. Of course, I wish Stat wasn’t hurt, but his absence could lead us to some answers. I am also psych’ed to see Harrelson play. I hope he can play a basic PF role and not pop so much. I am interested in seeing how the team plays with a hard nosed traditional 4 coupled with a Center. Let’s see. Can’t wait.

    33. bobneptune

      BigBlueAL: Agreed but tonight Knicks will be w/o 3 of arguably their top 7 players and thats not counting Baron Davis.No excuses though because a bunch of teams are dealing with stuff like this and will be doing so the entire season.

      amar’e shumpert and who else?

      and whoda thunk a guy with 70% of one nba game under his belt who was pilloried on this board for shooting too much would be sooooo important (he is actually a very important piece).

    34. BigBlueAL

      Jeffries believe it or not is one of the Knicks Top 7 players. He is the 1st big man off the bench which makes him pretty valuable for this team. Sad I know lol

    35. BigBlueAL

      The MSG feed audio has an annoying echo on League Pass, same for you guys?? I dont wanna be stuck watching Kings feed lol

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