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Knicks Morning News (Monday, May 28 2012)

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Playoffs | Western Conference Finals Game 1: Spurs 101, Thunder 98: Strong Finish Boosts Spurs in Game 1 (Mon, 28 May 2012 06:13:36 GMT)
    Manu Ginobili scored 26 points as the Spurs, who are undefeated in the playoffs, beat the Thunder in the first game of the Western Conference finals.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Playoffs | Western Conference Finals: Spurs and Thunder Have Star Power Of Their Own (Mon, 28 May 2012 07:04:07 GMT)
    The Western Conference finals aren’t as glamorous as the matchup in the East, but its combatants were 16-1 in the playoffs entering Sunday’s game.

  • [New York Times] Andre Iguodala and Elton Brand Could Be Part of 76ers’ Changes (Mon, 28 May 2012 02:21:17 GMT)
    Philadelphia knocked off Chicago in the opening round and stretched Boston to a Game 7, but now comes the hard part — turning the Sixers into a consistent championship contender.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Get ‘Nasty’ to Take 1-0 Lead Over Thunder (Mon, 28 May 2012 07:36:43 GMT)
    Trailing in the fourth quarter, Gregg Popovich snarled an order in the huddle that the NBA Coach of the Year punctuated with a sharp and angry sweep of his hand.

  • [New York Times] Thunder Can’t Finish Near-Upset in ‘Nasty’ Game 1 (Mon, 28 May 2012 05:24:53 GMT)
    The Oklahoma City Thunder almost did it: Almost stopped one of the longest winning streaks in NBA history, started the Western Conference finals with an upset and finally shed their underdog label.

  • [New York Times] Unstoppable Spurs Silence Thunder (Mon, 28 May 2012 05:03:06 GMT)
    The San Antonio Spurs taught Oklahoma City a lesson in championship poise with a 101-98 win on Sunday that stretched their remarkable win streak to 19 games and earned them a 1-0 lead in the Western Conference Finals.

  • [New York Times] ‘Nasty’ Spurs Strike First Against Thunder (Mon, 28 May 2012 06:08:52 GMT)
    It’s a catchphrase likely coming soon to fan T-shirts, Internet memes and the lexicon of the NBA playoffs for the foreseeable future.

  • [New York Times] Wade: Heat-Celtics Was ‘Inevitable’ Matchup (Mon, 28 May 2012 02:47:52 GMT)
    In 2010, Boston ousted Dwyane Wade in the first round and LeBron James in the second round. A year later, Wade and James were teammates and turned the tables, sending the Celtics into the offseason.

  • [New York Times] Spurs School Young Thunder in Fourth to Take 1-0 Lead (Mon, 28 May 2012 03:33:34 GMT)
    The San Antonio Spurs gave Oklahoma City a lesson in championship poise with a 101-98 victory on Sunday that stretched their remarkable win streak to 19 games and gave them the early advantage in the Western Conference Finals.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Western Conference Finals Preview (Mon, 28 May 2012 00:51:49 GMT)
    It would be easy to label the Western Conference finals as a battle of young versus old, but that may be unfair to the San Antonio Spurs as it is not clear that Tim Duncan actually ages.

  • 26 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Monday, May 28 2012)

    1. llcoolbp

      So here is why I will root for the Celtics and not the heat. Obviously I can’t stand both teams. A little history- my wife comes from a big family. 10 siblings. They all love the NBA. They are a big Nigerian family. They were not born here, but mostly grew up here. They lived in Baltimore and her brothers who are younger then me became Cleveland/LeBron fans. After the decision, I assumed they would all hate LeBron and stay Cleveland fans. Without hesitation they all became Miami fans. I was flabbergasted. I guess I’m just not wired like that. I was raised with principles like loyalty. Sports is one place where you could show that proudly.

      The heat losing would be like Christmas for me. I’ll never see eye to eye with my wifes family. The grin I had on my face last year and the look in their eyes after the heat lost was priceless. Here is hoping to another cosmic meltdown by the self proclaimed king james. Happy memorial day fellow knicker bloggers.

    2. d-mar

      My hatred for all things Celtic runs WAY deeper than the Heat. My best case scenario is Heat in 4, and then OKC in 6 entertaining games.

      BTW, Simmons wrote a piece last week to try and make Celtic fans feel good about this playoff “run”. His point was that they are in the 5th year of a 3 year plan, so it’s all gravy. It’s such BS, Celtic fans were thinking they could make one last run to a title this season, not get past powerhouses Atlanta and Philly and lose to the Heat again.

    3. 2FOR18

      d-mar:
      My hatred for all things Celtic runs WAY deeper than the Heat. My best case scenario is Heat in 4, and then OKC in 6 entertaining games.

      BTW, Simmons wrote a piece last week to try and make Celtic fans feel good about this playoff “run”. His point was that they are in the 5th year of a 3 year plan, so it’s all gravy. It’s such BS, Celtic fans were thinking they could make one last run to a title this season, not get past powerhouses Atlanta and Philly and lose to the Heat again.

      What’s the deal with Grantland? They barely even write about sports anymore; it’s mainly articles about TV shows for 25 year olds.

    4. JK47

      The Heat are so much more loathsome to me. They’re the biggest douchebags in sports as far as I’m concerned.

      Go Celtics. Even though you’ll lose.

    5. Owen

      “I’m rooting for a brutal seven game series with many career ending injuries.”

      Lol, laughed and then immediately felt horrible about myself….

    6. johnlocke

      Agreed. Plus I like rooting for the underdog and most importantly…there is NO way the celtics beat OKC or the Spurs….the Heat could actually beat OKC or the spurs in the finals…so by rooting for the celtics I’m also rooting against them…lol

      JK47:
      The Heat are so much more loathsome to me.They’re the biggest douchebags in sports as far as I’m concerned.

      Go Celtics.Even though you’ll lose.

    7. ess-dog

      I can’t ever root for the Celtics, especially Pierce. Heat will win and then lose to the Spurs. Yawn. Hopefully we’ll be in this series with the Heat next year.

    8. max fisher-cohen

      I’m curious where all the hate for the Celtics comes from… They did beat us last year, but when’s the last time the Knicks and Celtics were both top teams? The early 70s? Is it just an extension of the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry? We have a much more antagonistic recent history with the Heat. Not just the playoff battles of the 90s, but the Riley thing and LBJ spurning us.

      Further, the Heat are much more a danger for the future. The more damaged LBJ’s psyche is, the better chance we have of seeing him meltdown against us in the playoffs. Wade prolly only has another 2 years of elite basketball in him (if that), and with Rose’s knee issues, Boston’s age, and Orlando’s Howard issues, Miami is by far the biggest threat in the East for the foreseeable future.

    9. johnlocke

      Agreed. The hate comes from the other sports in particular the Red Sox and Patriots. I also just hate the city of Boston in several ways the antithesis of NYC. For the Knicks outside of last year don’t see how you could hate the celts more other than the above.

      max fisher-cohen:
      I’m curious where all the hate for the Celtics comes from… They did beat us last year, but when’s the last time the Knicks and Celtics were both top teams? The early 70s? Is it just an extension of the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry? We have a much more antagonistic recent history with the Heat. Not just the playoff battles of the 90s, but the Riley thing and LBJ spurning us.

      Further, the Heat are much more a danger for the future. The more damaged LBJ’s psyche is, the better chance we have of seeing him meltdown against us in the playoffs. Wade prolly only has another 2 years of elite basketball in him (if that), and with Rose’s knee issues, Boston’s age, and Orlando’s Howard issues, Miami is by far the biggest threat in the East for the foreseeable future.

    10. JK47

      I come from South Florida (my family moved there from the Bronx when I was 6) and I hate all of their stupid sports teams, Marlins, Dolphins and especially Heat.

      I live in LA so I’ve developed a healthy hatred for all things Laker and Dodger as well.

    11. cgreene

      +1

      max fisher-cohen:
      I’m curious where all the hate for the Celtics comes from… They did beat us last year, but when’s the last time the Knicks and Celtics were both top teams? The early 70s? Is it just an extension of the Red Sox/Yankees rivalry? We have a much more antagonistic recent history with the Heat. Not just the playoff battles of the 90s, but the Riley thing and LBJ spurning us.

      Further, the Heat are much more a danger for the future. The more damaged LBJ’s psyche is, the better chance we have of seeing him meltdown against us in the playoffs. Wade prolly only has another 2 years of elite basketball in him (if that), and with Rose’s knee issues, Boston’s age, and Orlando’s Howard issues, Miami is by far the biggest threat in the East for the foreseeable future.

    12. ephus

      For me, the Knicks – Celtics rivalry was renewed in 1983-84. First, the Celtics put the Knicks into salary cap hell for the next six years. http://knickerblogger.net/unsung-knicks-history-celtics-cap-size-knicks-salary-cap-from-the-start/

      Then, the Celtics eliminated the Bernard King led Knicks in the second round of the 84 playoffs.

      But the Knicks – Celtics rivalry went back to the early 70s, when the Knicks finally got past the Celtics in 1970, and eliminated the Celtics again in 72 and 73.

    13. d-mar

      I love the way Heat fans are leaving the game early in droves. I know it’s well in hand, but it’s the freakin’ Eastern Conference Finals, stay an extra 10 minutes and cheer your team off the court. Just lame.

    14. johnlocke

      jeezus… this reminds me of the Knicks series. Pierce will have a bounce back after his inefficient 12 point performance (1 more than Melo’s 11) and they’ll still lose. Heat win in 5 games. Snoozer.

      d-mar:
      I love the way Heat fans are leaving the game early in droves. I know it’s well in hand, but it’s the freakin’ Eastern Conference Finals, stay an extra 10 minutes and cheer your team off the court. Just lame.

    15. johnlocke

      Anything that’s renewed in 1983 is really no longer relevant. LOL. That’s around the same year the first mobile phone was made commercially available…

      ephus:
      For me, the Knicks – Celtics rivalry was renewed in 1983-84.First, the Celtics put the Knicks into salary cap hell for the next six years.http://knickerblogger.net/unsung-knicks-history-celtics-cap-size-knicks-salary-cap-from-the-start/

      Then, the Celtics eliminated the Bernard King led Knicks in the second round of the 84 playoffs.

      But the Knicks – Celtics rivalry went back to the early 70s, when the Knicks finally got past the Celtics in 1970, and eliminated the Celtics again in 72 and 73.

    16. ruruland

      johnlocke:
      jeezus… this reminds me of the Knicks series.Pierce will have a bounce back after his inefficient 12 point performance (1 more than Melo’s 11) and they’ll still lose.Heat win in 5 games. Snoozer.

      s but lest we forget it was Melo and his 2.2 apg that made the Heat look a lot better than they actually are.
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      Boston will play better, though. And you saw signs of what they’ll be able to do offensively. It was just a matter of missing a lot of free throws and James/Wade playing another B+ or A combined game.

      Maybe McHale and Bird or Magic and Kareem had a 4 game stretch where they were both dominant, but I doubt they were putting up a combined 57.5/19.5/13 on close to 60%

      unheard of

    17. Glew

      Been following the site all season finally decided to make an account..what do you guys think about giving iverson a shot on a 10 day contract or at least working him out to see what his game is like if that is possible? I mean he had success with melo and was coached by woodson in phily? He has got to be more serviceable than TD, Bibby and potentially even B diddy, no?

    18. ruruland

      I’m a big Iverson fan, but you can’t run a coherent offense with him, which makes him a really bad role player.

      At his best it was constant penetration — and yes, open looks when he felt like passing– but poor pick and roll passer, below average sput -up guy (though he was great off curls)

      Just doesn’t do role player things well, and he’s one of those guys that started to lose it suddenly. ’08 was when he lost a couple steps.

      He’d be more serviceable than those guys but I’d still want to go in a better direction.

    19. johnlocke

      lol. Pierce is injured and it’s clearly bothering him. Ray Allen is injured and is for some reason turning into Fields at the free throw line. Rondo also played like crap. Rondo and Pierce can’t play worse…but it was really the role players that killed the Celtics.

      ruruland: s but lest we forget it was Melo and his 2.2 apg that made the Heat look a lot better than they actually are.
      ————————————————————————–

      Boston will play better, though. And you saw signs of what they’ll be able to do offensively. It was just a matter of missing a lot of free throws and James/Wade playing another B+ or A combined game.

      Maybe McHale and Bird or Magic and Kareem had a 4 game stretch where they were both dominant, but I doubt they were putting up a combined 57.5/19.5/13on close to 60%

      unheard of

    20. johnlocke

      Gary Neal or hinrich or even jkidd would be better. We have lots of slashers but wo Novak will be among the worst jump shooting teams in the league

      Glew:
      Been following the site all season finally decided to make an account..what do you guys think about giving iverson a shot on a 10 day contract or at least working him out to see what his game is like if that is possible? I mean he had success with melo and was coached by woodson in phily? He has got to be more serviceable than TD, Bibby and potentially even B diddy, no?

    21. Z

      johnlocke:
      Agreed. The hate comes from the other sports in particular the Red Sox and Patriots.I also just hate the city of Boston in several ways the antithesis of NYC. For the Knicks outside of last year don’t see how you could hate the celts more other than the above.

      Jeremy Lin was educated in Boston, so it has that going for them. What has Miami done for us?

    22. johnlocke

      Lol. I was educated in Boston too…that’s where my hate for the city grew. Miami has south beach…just saying

      Z: Jeremy Lin was educated in Boston, so it has that going for them. What has Miami done for us?

    23. Frank

      ruruland: Boston will play better, though. And you saw signs of what they’ll be able to do offensively. It was just a matter of missing a lot of free throws and James/Wade playing another B+ or A combined game.

      Maybe McHale and Bird or Magic and Kareem had a 4 game stretch where they were both dominant, but I doubt they were putting up a combined 57.5/19.5/13 on close to 60%

      unheard of

      Totally agree. LBJ is taking good shots for the most part, but Wade’s degree of difficulty on his shots is just insane. It looks great now, but it was just a week or so ago that none of these shots were falling. I just hope from an Anti-Heat standpoint that this happens sooner rather than later.

      I can’t decide who I want in the Western Conference — I think San Antonio would be a great story, but I wonder whether only OKC has the athletes to compete with the Heat.

      I’m rooting Celtics also – I certainly don’t like Boston sports, but for the most part, the only really heated rivalry right now between NYC and Boston is the Jets and Patriots. The Red Sox and Yankees are like the rich fighting the rich since both teams have won multiple world series in the last decade or so. And like Max – I just don’t feel a huge amount of hate towards the Celts. Even now when both teams are good, neither team is a true contender, so it’s like low level squabbling / fighting for scraps as far as I’m concerned.

      My hate of Miami runs deep – I’m not sure why, but maybe it’s an anti-bully thing. It really is like all the best players on the winners-stay-on-the-court pickup game all decided to play together. Their playing together wasn’t done in competitive spirit – they decided to play together because they thought it would be the easiest thing to do. Thumbs down from me, and I’ll root for the underdog against them every time.

    24. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Glew:
      Been following the site all season finally decided to make an account..what do you guys think about giving iverson a shot on a 10 day contract or at least working him out to see what his game is like if that is possible? I mean he had success with melo and was coached by woodson in phily? He has got to be more serviceable than TD, Bibby and potentially even B diddy, no?

      SHHHHHHHHHH

    25. Glew

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: SHHHHHHHHHH

      why shhhh if we lose jr (one of our “slashers”) and picked someone up such as gary neal or henrich as suggested above and had iverson as a third string for the vets minimum i think that would be legit. His spot up jumper has got to be better than fields’ and TD’s even if they work on it this summer. IMO TD is a lost cause and should be traded for literally anything they can get. Iverson has a career playoff average of 29 ppg. And yes i realize he wasn’t able to adapt to being a role player a few years ago but hes older(wiser) and more desperate now. You know hes a competitor…

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