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Knicks Morning News (Monday, May 07 2012)

  • [New York Times] Game 4: Knicks 89, Heat 87: Knicks Escape to Play Another Day (Mon, 07 May 2012 05:27:19 GMT)
    The Knicks won their first playoff game in 11 years and trimmed the Heat’s series lead to 3-1 as Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire combined for 61 points.

  • [New York Times] On Basketball: Knicks’ Playoff Slump Finally Ends (Mon, 07 May 2012 06:25:31 GMT)
    The Knicks won in the postseason for the first time since 2001, an unlikely stretch for a free-spending franchise.

  • [New York Times] Dwyane Wade’s Miss Ends Game’s Suspense With a Clang (Mon, 07 May 2012 07:50:09 GMT)
    Dwyane Wade’s miss, which would have ended the Knicks’ season, was the final play in a string of seven dramatic possessions.

  • [New York Times] Game 4: Sixers 89, Bulls 82: N.B.A. Playoffs — Sixers Push Bulls to the Brink (Mon, 07 May 2012 04:47:02 GMT)
    Playing without their stars Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah, the Bulls lost their third straight game and face early elimination Tuesday.

  • [New York Times] 76ers Top Bulls 89-82 for 3-1 Series Lead (Mon, 07 May 2012 08:27:57 GMT)
    The Chicago Bulls have failed at winning one game without Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah.

  • [New York Times] Anthony Helps Knicks End 13-Game Playoff Skid (Mon, 07 May 2012 08:10:14 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony made the big shots at the end. Amare Stoudemire provided a spark right from the start.

  • [New York Times] Lakers Go 3-1 Up on Nuggets, 76ers, Knicks Win (Mon, 07 May 2012 05:43:20 GMT)
    Ramon Sessions and Steve Blake landed clutch three-pointers in the final minute to give the Los Angeles Lakers a nail-biting 92-88 road victory over the Denver Nuggets and a 3-1 lead in their first-round playoff series.

  • [New York Times] Game 4: Lakers 92, Nuggets 88: Bryant and Bynum Lead Lakers to 3-1 Edge Over Nuggets (Mon, 07 May 2012 08:13:37 GMT)
    Kobe Bryant scored 22 points, Andrew Bynum added 19 and the Los Angeles Lakers’ stars got plenty of help from their supporting cast in a win over the Denver Nuggets.

  • [New York Times] Knicks Avoid Sweep, End Playoff Drought Against Heat (Mon, 07 May 2012 02:04:02 GMT)
    The New York Knicks, led by Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire, avoided a sweep at the hands of the Miami Heat and ended an 11-year playoff victory drought with an 89-87 win at Madison Square Garden on Sunday.

  • [New York Times] Game 4: Celtics 101, Hawks 79: Pierce Helps Celtics Top Hawks for 3-1 Series Lead (Mon, 07 May 2012 04:49:23 GMT)
    Paul Pierce scored 24 points in 18 minutes and host Boston opened a 37-point lead in the third quarter to take a 3-1 lead in the best-of-seven series.

  • [New York Times] Game 4: Knicks 89, Heat 87: Anthony Helps Knicks End 13-Game Playoff Skid (Mon, 07 May 2012 00:22:11 GMT)
    The Knicks won their first playoff game in 11 years and trimmed the Heat’s series lead to 3-1 behind Carmelo Anthony’s 41 points and Amar’e Stoudemire’s 20 points and 10 rebounds.

  • [New York Times] Knicks-Heat Replay: Game 4 (Mon, 07 May 2012 03:35:26 GMT)
    The Knicks’ 89-87 victory ended a drought of 11 years without a playoff win, and prevented a sweep by the Heat.

  • [New York Daily News] Melo & Co. end skid, Knicks force Game 5 (Mon, 07 May 2012 06:14:01 GMT)
    Dwyane Wade came up short on a last-second 3-pointer as the Knicks, with Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire missing key free throws in the final minute, survived for an 89-87 Game 4 victory.

  • [New York Daily News] Shumpert not rushing return from ACL tear (Mon, 07 May 2012 04:36:10 GMT)
    Eight days after being carried off the court in Miami, Iman Shumpert was back in Madison Square Garden, desperately praying that his Knicks could find a way to survive one more playoff game against the powerful Heat.

  • [New York Daily News] Bibby shakes off rust to pitch in (Mon, 07 May 2012 04:13:34 GMT)
    Mike Bibby wasn’t worried about his stat line or about the chance to play big minutes. He had no interest in running the Knicks or being on the court in the waning moments of the club’s first playoff victory in 11 years.

  • [New York Daily News] With Davis done, Jeremy may play (Mon, 07 May 2012 03:57:20 GMT)
    This isn’t the way the Knicks wanted to experience Linsanity again. But after losing a key cog in their offense during Sunday’s Game 4 win, they may have no other choice.

  • [New York Daily News] Lawrence: Knicks celebrate one and not yet done (Mon, 07 May 2012 03:45:21 GMT)
    The parade honoring the Knicks will be Tuesday through the Canyon of Heroes. What’s that? They only kept their season on life support with their 89-87 win at the Garden? Oops!

  • [New York Daily News] In return, Knicks’ Amar’e a cut above (Mon, 07 May 2012 03:36:25 GMT)
    The man in the black derby and tan sling with the gold chain hanging from his neck walked into the postgame press conference with a broad smile Sunday evening.

  • 82 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Monday, May 07 2012)

    1. SeeWhyDee77

      Just…Kudos to Amare. Melo was brilliant…but Amare played that game like a one handed man possessed. Haven’t seen that type of effort from him in a while.

    2. d-mar

      Feels good to wake up and have the media actually saying a few nice things about the Knicks. Of course, that will change in a nanosecond if the Knicks get their doors blown off on Wed. Then we’ll go from being an undermanned team with a lot of heart to an over matched team that doesn’t belong on the same court as Miami.

      Anyone have any news on Lin?

    3. Frank

      I obviously wish Baron the best for a speedy recovery and hope that this isn’t the end for him – but man, he really was not playing well. Stupid fouls 40 feet from the basket, was averaging 5 TOs/36 and missing a LOT of open 3′s. I guess Bibby will start the next game and will be forced to play 30+ minutes – if J-Lin can give us ANYTHING (10-12 minutes and just play better than he did earlier in the year in Miami) this may be blessing in disguise.

      Re: Novak – I was at the game yesterday and so had a bit more of a bird’s eye view. I made a point of tracking Novak and they missed him at least 3x wide open from the wing in transition. Hopefully they make an effort to get him the ball down in Miami. This is going to be a very tough game, and a combined 5/22 from 3 point range like we had in game 4 is not going to get it done. I just hope good JR shows up on Wednesday. Yesterday was definitely bad JR with tons of bad gambles on D, step-back J’s from 6 inches inside the 3 point line (DUDE- just step back another 6 inches and give yourself a chance at 3 points!!!!!) etc. Great effort though.

    4. SeeWhyDee77

      Frank:
      I obviously wish Baron the best for a speedy recovery and hope that this isn’t the end for him – but man, he really was not playing well.

      Man i’m still holdin my knee after seein that injury

    5. villainx

      [1] Stoudemire did a good job. It would probably be more likely that a less than 100% Stat would try to overcompensate for his injuring himself and the injury and force the action. But from what I saw, he was mostly under control but still aggressive.

    6. Garson

      This has been killing me all series….

      We have a man on our team that is a lights out shooter and our coaching staffs best plan is letting him stand in the corner?? How are they not running screens, and double screens to get him open? When we used to play the Pistons of old, How many screens were set for Rip? Get the man open!

      Yesterday, Lebron was on Novak for most of the time he was in the game. Even if he not getting open, at least make Lebron exert some energy .

    7. KnicksFaninNH

      I would think if Baron Davis had any seriously real damage to his patella tendon that the “average” recovery for a man his age is about 6 months. I’m not a doc, but I know quite a bit about that injury since I had a similar injury happen to me a few years ago (fully ruptured my patella tendon) and it took surgery and at least 4 months+ till I was even able to rehab it. And 6 months it was about 80%. I wasn’t 100% for close to a year. If Baron wants to come back, I think he can full focus on recovery and rehab and be ready for October/November. Part of the problem will be staying in good cardio shape which has always been a problem for him. But he could do it if he focuses.

      SeeWhyDee77: Man i’m still holdin my knee after seein that injury

    8. gjknick

      KnicksFaninNH: I would think if Baron Davis had any seriously real damage to his patella tendon that the “average” recovery for a man his age is about 6 months. I’m not a doc, but I know quite a bit about that injury since I had a similar injury happen to me a few years ago (fully ruptured my patella tendon) and it took surgery and at least 4 months+ till I was even able to rehab it. And 6 months it was about 80%. I wasn’t 100% for close to a year. If Baron wants to come back, I think he can full focus on recovery and rehab and be ready for October/November. Part of the problem will be staying in good cardio shape which has always been a problem for him. But he could do it if he focuses.

      While I hope Baron recovers and wish him nothing but the best, his time as Knick is done, no? Can’t see them going through another year of waiting and hoping for Baron to recover from another major injury. Also based on his performance this year, he’s not worth waiting for. I know he was never 100% but the mental mistakes – not taking care of the basketball didn’t seem related to his injuries. At this point, Bibby is playing better – takes care of the ball, nothing flashy but makes a reasonable amount of his open looks. Between the two, I’ll take Bibby. Wonder if they’ll bring him back again next year in case TDDWTDD doesn’t return to a usefull NBA player.

    9. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Frank:
      I’ve written this before and it’s not exactly a revelation-level thought — but the NBA is a multi-billion dollar business and each team has a budget of >$100M.To think they’re spending their time and making decisions based on TS% and WS/48 on Basketball-Reference.com is laughable.

      You’re right, Frank: it is laughable. But you’d be a little too generous in thinking that they’d use a “prehistoric” stat like TS%.

      http://www.suu.edu/faculty/berri/ScoretoScoreIJSF.pdf

      Maybe things have changed since 2004, but volume scoring is still the most important factor in receiving a big payday. I don’t know how you can keep asserting that NBA front offices are light years ahead of the “prehistoric stats” on Basketball Reference, but you can keep trying.

    10. gjknick

      Ideal scenario is Knicks win again while overcoming another JR brickfest and Novak disappearing. Keep driving down your value guys! I hold on to hope that we can keep them for next year and make a real run with a reasonably healthy squad.

    11. KnicksFaninNH

      No argument from me that Baron has been a huge disappointment in terms of his production this year and this series. But he HAS been better than TDDWTDUTD. We need some serious help at guard next year. And if Baron hangs w/ his friend Nash and learns to keep his ass in shape, he could reprise what he did in Cleveland last year with a full recovery. Especially if he “doesn’t want to go out like that…”

      Then again maybe we could pick up a good backup point in the 2nd round? Do we have a 2nd round pick this year?

    12. JC Knickfan

      Knicks currently have 48th pick.
      It would be nice if Knick also trade TD including $3 million. Either for another draft pick, move up in draft or more serviceable role player.

    13. massive

      We have the 55th pick in this year’s draft. I hope we use it on Robbie Hummel from Purdue.

    14. Frank

      anyone think all this “Lin isn’t playing in Game 5″ talk is a smokescreen? Sounds like he’s been doing quite a bit during practice. I can sort of see some mind games being played here – the more you say he’s not playing, the less chance Miami gameplans for him.

      I think if Jeremy can even give us 75% of his usual for 10 minutes, it will be a big boost.

      Provided of course that he is cleared by the docs. Definitely not worth it if there is any question of reinjury. My feeling, though, is that if he is cleared to run full court drills and scrimmage (which he has already done), he’s cleared to play in a real game.

    15. TelegraphedPass

      massive:
      48th? Even better. Maybe Will Buford or Marcus Denmon.

      Been BEGGING for NY to take Denmon for months now. The guy is just so efficient. He’s a great spot up shooter and just looks to have great bball IQ. If he were 3 inches taller he’d be a top 10 pick. My hope is that he can be the ultimate 6th man for NY. Plays his role, can handle the ball enough to maybe get spot PG minutes, and scores efficiently both off-ball and off the dribble.

    16. johnlocke

      Even more impressive re: Melo’s performance — he made 9 shots at the rim last game…apparently his most of the season. He wasn’t just settling for jumpers…when his ‘shot was not falling’ early…he cut off the ball, penetrated, got fouled, ran out in transition and forced the Heat to foul him. A lot of that is just all-out effort / intelligence. I loved the fact that he didn’t just fall in love the contested mid-range jumper. Hopefully we see more of that in game 5. Regarding Lin — I could see him coming back for Game 5, but I think it all depends on how he looks in practice. I just hope we don’t have to release (as in play) Toney.

    17. yellowboy90

      Can John Jenkins make it as a pro? I could live with an Undersized two off the bench with range would be nice.

    18. johnlocke

      By the way, do you guys realize that after Carmelo (41) and Amare (20)… our next leading scorers in order scored…(seriously) 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and 0 respectively. How crazy is that? First, that looks like some kind of crazy omen. Second, even if Carmelo only scores closer to 28 next game….we can still play a lot better.

      The big 3 had 27,22 and 17 respectively…which is not bad for them. Their supporting cast was horrible too.

    19. ephus

      Howard Beck just tweeted that Woodson announced: (1) Bibby will start at the PG; (2) Lin likely will not play; (3) Douglas might play; and (4) Melo/JR may get extended time at the point.

      Seems like Douglas is likely to play only when Moochie Norris is in the game, Woodson does not want him trying to defend Chalmers.

      I would not be surprised to see the Heat go jumbo LBJ/Wade/Battier/Anthony/Bosh for extended periods on Wednesday. If the Knicks use ‘Melo at the point, the Heat will counter by forcing the ball out of his hands with two big bodies (Battier/LBJ) in the trap.

    20. Frank

      @21 – if we have any chance to win game 5 in MIA we’ll need Chandler to come with his A game on both sides of the ball, and will need JR to hit some of these wide open 3′s he is getting. If we can get Melo, TC, Amare, and JR all in double figures, we’ll be in good shape.

    21. Caleb

      I just don’t understand what happened to TDDWTDD. I get that people lose their shooting touch, and he was never really a true point, but what happened to the rest of his game? He was drafted for defense (ACC DPOY) and looked pretty good his first two years. Now it seems the coach is more confident in Bibby’s D – and I don’t blame him! I mean, what the hell?

    22. Caleb

      And I’m pretty curious about Lin. Woody might be just setting expectations low, so if Lin actually does play, it’s a total bonus. Which seems like the right strategy.

      But yesterday I read that they’d be making the call after practice Tuesday.

      I don’t want him rushed back if medical staff are iffy, but it sure would be nice if he were cleared to play a few minutes.

    23. johnlocke

      He’s still a decent one-on-one defender…but his ability to defend on screens and off the ball D, aren’t great. Not saying Bibby is much better but that the edge is not as decidely in Toney’s favor on D. On Toney, his biggest issue is just taking the absolutely, worse ill-advised shots at the worst moment (jacked up threes off the dribble with 20 seconds on the clock) with both Amare and Melo not even touching it. I’m not really sure what he does well right now….sad

      Caleb:
      I just don’t understand what happened to TDDWTDD. I get that people lose their shooting touch, and he was never really a true point, but what happened to the rest of his game? He was drafted for defense (ACC DPOY) and looked pretty good his first two years. Now it seems the coach is more confident in Bibby’s D – and I don’t blame him! I mean, what the hell?

    24. Z

      Man, the schedule is very forgiving in the playoffs. 1 game every 3 days, as opposed to 3 games every 4 days in the regular season. (granted, it’s been a looooong time since I’ve paid very close attention to the NBA playoffs, but in ye olde days, I remember games every other day, and often they’d go back to back on weekends).

    25. Frank

      Caleb:
      And I’m pretty curious about Lin. Woody might be just setting expectations low, so if Lin actually does play, it’s a total bonus. Which seems like the right strategy.

      But yesterday I read that they’d be making the call after practice Tuesday.

      I don’t want him rushed back if medical staff are iffy, but it sure would be nice if he were cleared to play a few minutes.

      Maybe I’m just being an overoptimistic/unrealistic fan, but I feel like there is some gamesmanship here. Maybe he’ll play, maybe he won’t. Maybe Miami should prepare for him, maybe they shouldn’t. Just like the Jets and Tebow, there are only so many hours in practice and film review, and if they need to suddenly even think about an aggressive attacking J-Lin again, that can only help us.

      My feeling is that we won’t know until the active rosters are submitted, probably wednesday sometime.

    26. TheRant

      Caleb: And I’m pretty curious about Lin. Woody might be just setting expectations low, so if Lin actually does play, it’s a total bonus. Which seems like the right strategy.

      But yesterday I read that they’d be making the call after practice Tuesday.

      I don’t want him rushed back if medical staff are iffy, but it sure would be nice if he were cleared to play a few minutes.

      I would save Lin for the second round. No reason to rush him back in.

    27. Frank

      never mind – Beck just tweeted that Lin has NOT received medical clearance to play 5-on-5.

      Or so they say?

    28. TheRant

      Garson: Second Round??

      Yeah, I know, nobody has ever come back from a 0-3 hole to take a series. And they have the best player in basketball on their team. And Wade isn’t bad either. Blah blah blah.

      But I’m still of the 1995-2001 school — if anything new will happen in the NBA, it will happen between the Heat and the Knicks.

      Yes, I’m a totally irrational optimist. But hope springs eternal — and there are few things in life that give me as much joy as watching the Heat walking off their home court, in tears, for summer vacation.

    29. Frank

      The only bit of optimism I have is that the Knicks have yet to have a good shooting game. And I don’t mean just shooting percentage — I mean, we are missing a TON of open 3′s. Games 2 and 3 were close up until the 4th quarter- a few made 3′s and we could have a totally different series.

    30. 2FOR18

      johnlocke:
      Even more impressive re: Melo’s performance — he made 9 shots at the rim last game…apparently his most of the season. He wasn’t just settling for jumpers…when his ‘shot was not falling’ early…he cut off the ball, penetrated, got fouled, ran out in transition and forced the Heat to foul him. A lot of that is just all-out effort / intelligence. I loved the fact that he didn’t just fall in love the contested mid-range jumper.Hopefully we see more of that in game 5. Regarding Lin — I could see him coming back for Game 5, but I think it all depends on how he looks in practice. I just hope we don’t have to release (as in play) Toney.

      I loved that about melo this game. Man I wish he would do that every game; when he keeps shooting those long 2′s it literally drives me batshit crazy.
      Amare was great; I wish he could bring that intensity, especially defensively, every game.

      I just went through all the posts, and I want to comment the Nash talk . Grunwald needs to be on the phone, the instant the season ends, offering Nash the MLE for 2 years. I’m convinced he’s looking to finish up his career with a shot at a ring, and everyone knows he loves NY, or so I assume since he lives here in the summer.

      I love, love, love Lin, but we can’t be worrying about the 2015 season now.

      1) In 2015, Amare and/or Chandler will probably be in traction, and melo will be on the downside, entering his 12th year.
      2) He’s Steve fukin Nash – his shooting alone is worth twice the MLE, and he led that crappy team to a .500 record with the league’s 8th toughest schedule. And if anyone can figure out how to get melo, Amare and Tyson to coexist on offense, it’s Nash.
      3) If he goes to the Heat, the league is over. I can’t even fathom this.
      4) even if the worst case scenario happens and Nash throws out his back, it doesn’t destroy the team since he’s only…

    31. Eternal OptiKnist

      I must say, i’m so proud of the way Amare came out and dominated especially since i was one of maybe two pro-Amare posters after extinguisher-gate. He really impacted the game on both ends without forcing it…i was worried he’d have 10 turnovers. His numbers were great and efficient and only represented 2.5 quarters! That said, hat off to Melo…wow…whatta game; I’ve not been the biggest Melo fan, but when he has those games, you just smile and can’t help but say…oh…thats why we got him! The man was amazing. I can’t see why he doesnt like running the P&R with STAT…it would be unstoppable! Turrible to see Davis go down but it was also good to see Bibby get burn…he’s rickity, but runs the team…very little flash, but the ball seems to move when he plays…plus he nailed the biggest shot of the game IMHO. We’ve held Miami to ~40% for two games (i know that doesnt represent how much we’ve put them at the line)…our defense has done its job…if only we could score! I’ll say it 1000 times, this Knicks team healthy pushes this series 6 games, no doubt,..maybe 7. Amazing TD has fallen this far…really it is…he “might” play?? Given where we are witrh guards…wow. As it pertains to Lin, if he’s 100%…he should definitely play. Playoff experience is important. In fact, if he’s 100% and he doesnt play, why is he on the team? By that logic, Melo, Amare and Tyson should not play. If he’s healthy, he plays. Period.

    32. 2FOR18

      2FOR18: I loved that about melo this game.Man I wish he would do that every game; when he keeps shooting those long 2?s it literally drives me batshit crazy.
      Amare was great; I wish he could bring that intensity, especially defensively, every game.

      I just went through all the posts, and I want to comment the Nash talk .Grunwald needs to be on the phone, the instant the season ends, offering Nash the MLE for 2 years.I’m convinced he’s looking to finish up his career with a shot at a ring, and everyone knows he loves NY, or so I assume since he lives here in the summer.

      I love, love, love Lin, but we can’t be worrying about the 2015 season now.

      1) In 2015, Amare and/or Chandler will probably be in traction, and melo will be on the downside, entering his 12th year.
      2) He’s Steve fukin Nash – his shooting alone is worth twice the MLE, and he led that crappy team to a .500 record with the league’s 8th toughest schedule.And if anyone can figure out how to get melo, Amare and Tyson to coexist on offense, it’s Nash.
      3) If he goes to the Heat, the league is over.I can’t even fathom this.
      4) even if the worst case scenario happens and Nash throws out his back, it doesn’t destroy the team since he’s only…

      …. making the MLE.

      It’s time to really go for it here. If we can somehow keep JR, that team would be a nightmare to defend. Then we make a Godfather offer to Phil Jax, not for the triangle, but for his player management skills and the respect he gets from players.
      Anyway this is my dream for the Knicks.

    33. hoolahoop

      ruruland: You should see the kinds of stats coaching staffs track. I don’t know how far up it goes in terms of the analysis, but I think Doug is right that most teams have their own proprietary stats and analysis, and it’s up to the coach — ultimately— on how to utilize it.

      Yeah, the coaches are working so hard to unearth every nuance of their players that three teams didn’t know who J. Lin was – when he was sitting on their bench.

    34. Juany8

      @34, Nash isn’t helping the Heat much at all, he’s only a superstar with the ball in his hands and the problem is that both Lebron and Wade are much less effective off the ball since they can’t spot up. His shooting would help, but his defense is a total killer. It works a lot better on the Knicks since Melo can be pretty effective in many different situations on the floor, and he doesn’t need to be holding the ball to get into effective scoring position, plus Amar’e can go back to being a monster on the pick and roll. The defense is again questionable, but that’s what Shump is for.

    35. johnlocke

      “Turrible”? is that you Charles Barkley? Great, great game by Amare – he acquitted himself very well. That’s the passion I remember from last year from him (and the initial 7-1 stretch w/ Woodson this year). We need it from him again

      Eternal OptiKnist:
      I must say, i’m so proud of the way Amare came out and dominated especially since i was one of maybe two pro-Amare posters after extinguisher-gate.He really impacted the game on both ends without forcing it…i was worried he’d have 10 turnovers.His numbers were great and efficient and only represented 2.5 quarters!That said, hat off to Melo…wow…whatta game; I’ve not been the biggest Melo fan, but when he has those games, you just smile and can’t help but say…oh…thats why we got him!The man was amazing.I can’t see why he doesnt like running the P&R with STAT…it would be unstoppable!Turrible to see Davis go down but it was also good to see Bibby get burn…he’s rickity, but runs the team…very little flash, but the ball seems to move when he plays…plus he nailed the biggest shot of the game IMHO.We’ve held Miami to ~40% for two games (i know that doesnt represent how much we’ve put them at the line)…our defense has done its job…if only we could score!I’ll say it 1000 times, this Knicks team healthy pushes this series 6 games, no doubt,..maybe 7.Amazing TD has fallen this far…really it is…he “might” play??Given where we are witrh guards…wow.As it pertains to Lin, if he’s 100%…he should definitely play.Playoff experience is important.In fact, if he’s 100% and he doesnt play, why is he on the team?By that logic, Melo, Amare and Tyson should not play.If he’s healthy, he plays.Period.

    36. johnlocke

      Not. going.to.happen…I guess we can talk about this theoretically. But there is just no way the Knicks don’t sign Lin just based on economics alone. The CEO of MSG was saying he has never seen a “product” (Lin) have this much impact on a business ever… in terms of increase in sales, global opportunity and the like. Plus during the Linsanity streak, he was among the best players in the NBA and he’s young. There is just no way we give all that up for maybe 2 more strong years from a 38 year old pt guard.

      2FOR18: …. making the MLE.

      It’s time to really go for it here.If we can somehow keep JR, that team would be a nightmare to defend.Then we make a Godfather offer to Phil Jax, not for the triangle, but for his player management skills and the respect he gets from players.
      Anyway this is my dream for the Knicks.

    37. Juany8

      Also, I know a lot of people ask why Melo isn’t running pick and rolls directly with Stat and the truth is he can’t. When Melo and Stat are on the floor with Chandler, they are actually the two best shooters on the team from any perspective. Chandler can’t shoot at all, Baron has sucked, JR has missed his shots this series, and Landry…. Anyways the pick and roll is not a serious threat if you can commit extra defenders with impunity, and as long as half the players on the court can’t make a bucket outside 2 ft (or at all) it’s not going to change, one of Amar’e or Melo will always need to be spotting up off the ball unless they’re playing at the 4 and 5 together with Novak (in which case they have run the pick and roll together incredibly effectively. This current team is much better offensively without Chandler lol)

      A healthy Lin and Shump totally changes that dynamic though, both have shown improvement in their jump shot, both can cut and handle the ball pretty well, and both can run a weakside pick and roll or isolation if the defense overcommits to the primary action. I also like what Woodson has done flashing Chandler to the high post to facilitate plays when Melo is running the offense, it got the Knicks a lot of easy looks against a great defense yesterday.

    38. Juany8

      johnlocke:
      “Turrible”? is that you Charles Barkley? Great, great game by Amare – he acquitted himself very well. That’s the passion I remember from last year from him (and the initial 7-1 stretch w/ Woodson this year). We need it from him again

      Wasn’t even the offense that impressed me, he played incredible defense the entire game except for a few bad fouls that are perfectly understandable considering the circumstances. When I saw him simply watch Mario Chalmers take an open 3 instead of closing out in game 2, I honestly gave up on Amar’e as a game changing player. Good to see he can still be a monster when he’s at his best. Hopefully next year the Knicks get a fully healthy and engaged Amar’e (his life was just terrible this year, you have to feel for him as a person)

    39. ruruland

      Juany8:
      When Melo and Stat are on the floor with Chandler, they are actually the two best shooters on the team from any perspective. Chandler can’t shoot at all, Baron has sucked, JR has missed his shots this series, and Landry…. Anyways the pick and roll is not a serious threat if you can commit extra defenders with impunity, and as long as half the players on the court can’t make a bucket outside 2 ft (or at all) it’s not going to change, one of Amar’e or Melo will always need to be spotting up off the ball unless they’re playing at the 4 and 5 together with Novak (in which case they have run the pick and roll together incredibly effectively. This current team is much better offensively without Chandler lol)

      A healthy Lin and Shump totally changes that dynamic though, both have shown improvement in their jump shot, both can cut and handle the ball pretty well, and both can run a weakside pick and roll or isolation if the defense overcommits to the primary action. I also like what Woodson has done flashing Chandler to the high post to facilitate plays when Melo is running the offense, it got the Knicks a lot of easy looks against a great defense yesterday.

      I agree which is why I want to see Chandler used as the flash post in this offense when he’s not being used in the pick and roll.

      He’s not a great offensive rebounder- –he’s a good one —so I don’t think he gets a pass to just hang out by the basket.

      He needs to help the offense function in some way even when he’s not directly involved in the pnr.

      What we saw last night was Melo/Amar’e pick and roll — great to see because Melo and Nene had good rapport with the play and Nene was screen-slipper, too.

      So, I’d like to see Chandler act more as the fulcrum of the offense like you mentioned.

    40. Z

      2FOR18:

      I love, love, love Lin, but we can’t be worrying about the 2015 season now…

      Why not??

      2015 has a lot more hope than 2013 and 2014.

      Besides, not looking 3 years down the road brought us: Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Steve Francis, Shandon Anderson, Jamal Crawford, Allan Houston’s contract, Howard Eisley…; and it lost us: Treor Ariza, Joakim Noah, LaMarcus Aldridge, Marcus Camby, Nene…

      We should definitely be worried about 2015 (and not let one playoff victory in 12 years go to our heads:)

    41. Eternal OptiKnist

      johnlocke: “Turrible”? is that you Charles Barkley? Great, great game by Amare – he acquitted himself very well. That’s the passion I remember from last year from him (and the initial 7-1 stretch w/ Woodson this year). We need it from him again

      “he’s an angry little man…ya hurrr mae Kinna?” where the hell has Caliendo been? I don’t think he needed to aquit himself of anything, but lets not rehash that convo..we agree on one thing, he was great.

    42. Frank

      hoolahoop: Yeah, the coaches are working so hard to unearth every nuance of their players that three teams didn’t know who J. Lin was – when he was sitting on their bench.

      I know you’re sort of trolling, but I’ll bite. I’m sure Golden State wishes they had him back, even as trade bait, but it is hard to imagine that he would get much playing time in front of Monta and Curry. They exposed him by waiving him, hoping to pick him back up after their ill-advised attempt to sign Deandre Jordan (that was a horrible FO move). The Houston picks him up because they LIKE him, but then have Lowry and Dragic ahead of him, both of whom are probably better than him, or at least equal and with more of a track record. So they let him go too. GSW probably has no leg to stand on, especially since they had been trying to trade Ellis forever. But I give Morey a pass on this one — Lowry and Dragic may, when it’s all said and done, be better than Lin.

    43. ruruland

      Melo/Amar’e pick and roll got Amar’e a layup because of the Chandler flash post.

      Melo is getting trapped on all pick and rolls. What the flash post allows you to do is pass the ball downcourt instead of horizontally or diagonally.

      It gives the Knicks a much better angle to get the ball to Amar’e as the screener.
      Amar’e has been open as the screener because the Heat have trapped Melo— but there hasn’t been an angle to get him the ball when it’s reversed to the wing (it’s always too late at that point oto get AMar’e the ball)……

      Plus, it effectively clears the middle out for an Amar’e finish. If Miami starts to overplay the roll — I know Chandler is big, strong and quick enough to get a shot at the basket from the elbow when the defense gives him space. He may not be able to shoot but he can pressure the rim from that point.

      Go to the :50 second mark of this video. You notice that Fields is trying to get the ball to Melo on the front. He beats Mike Miller off the dribble and Melo’s man (Lebron) is both behind the play and late to help, eventually leading to a Melo layup.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH87HVB-ZWU

      This is why most teams can’t front so aggressively. They get killed by penetration on the strong side because the help is late. Melo is essentially setting a devastating screen on his man.

      If Lin were healthy for this series he’d likely be able to take huge advantage of the Heat fronting Melo. Take away the fronting and the series is much different, IMO (how many possessions have completely stalled because of it?). And Lin changes a lot more than that.

    44. Frank

      I don’t think Nash is coming here. The owner (and rightfully so in this circumstance) will force the re-signing of Lin, which is probably the right call. Kid is 23, likeable, coachable, and is already a global icon.

      Here’s my prediction for the 2012-13 Knicks, trying to be as realistic as possible:

      1) Lin resigns for MLE
      2) Novak signs for biannual
      3) JR walks, unfortunately
      4) Jeffries resigns for vet’s minimum
      5) Marcus Camby signs for vet’s minimum
      6) we beg any SG who can shoot the 3 and defend a little to take a vet’s minimum to hold down the fort until Shump returns.
      7) Landry resigns for something close to the minimum contract, works on his shot all summer, shoots 33% from 3 and 70% from the FT line next year.
      8) Woodson gets a new contract when Phil walks away from the job offer.
      9) Knicks get the #4 seed, win the atlantic.

    45. Caleb

      Frank:
      I don’t think Nash is coming here.The owner (and rightfully so in this circumstance) will force the re-signing of Lin, which is probably the right call.Kid is 23, likeable, coachable, and is already a global icon.

      Here’s my prediction for the 2012-13 Knicks, trying to be as realistic as possible:

      1) Lin resigns for MLE
      2) Novak signs for biannual
      3) JR walks, unfortunately
      4) Jeffries resigns for vet’s minimum
      5) Marcus Camby signs for vet’s minimum
      6) we beg any SG who can shoot the 3 and defend a little to take a vet’s minimum to hold down the fort until Shump returns.
      7) Landry resigns for something close to the minimum contract, works on his shot all summer, shoots 33% from 3 and 70% from the FT line next year.
      8) Woodson gets a new contract when Phil walks away from the job offer.
      9) Knicks get the #4 seed, win the atlantic.

      That’s about how I’d guess it shakes out, although Novak is maybe a little less than 50-50, and Camby might not want to leave home. Of course if all that happens, why wouldn’t the Knicks be #3? Who’s ahead of them?

      Glad I’m not thinking too hard about it! Game 5 Wednesday night!

    46. JC Knickfan

      Lin vs Nash argument keep on popping up many places. Dolan’s will force Glen G to resign or match any offer for Lin. Until he stop being Cash Cow, he basically untouchable. Other owners also realize this and teams like Raptors w\ large Asian population will probably make a backload offer. Get use Lin being a Knick for the foreseeable future.

    47. Frank

      Caleb: That’s about how I’d guess it shakes out, although Novak is maybe a little less than 50-50, and Camby might not want to leave home. Of course if all that happens, why wouldn’t the Knicks be #3? Who’s ahead of them?

      Glad I’m not thinking too hard about it! Game 5 Wednesday night!

      Yeah, I’m only thinking about next year to keep myself from getting overhyped about a possible game 6 at MSG with a full-on Return of Linsanity.

      Re: Novak – I think if the Knicks offer him some flexibility and security (ie. player options) he would come back. He just seems like he’s having too much fun playing here. I’d love to think JR wants back, but his reported history of $ problems (and his father’s quotes) make me think otherwise.

      btw – I forgot to add on that I think Baron will be back with the team next year. He’s still getting paid by Cleveland next year, and given his injuries, I don’t think he’ll be getting much of an offer from any other team. With J-Lin (and probably Bibby) coming back, he can take his sweet time getting back this time.

      Possible SG stopgaps? Delfino, Pietrus, Jodie Meeks, Sonny Weems – prob all could be had for minimum.

    48. Frank

      ruruland:
      Bucher reporting is Lin to be 95% likely to play game 5.

      http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:7900434

      Man I hope he doesn’t get peer-pressured into playing if he’s not ready. And certainly I think it’s a bad idea to start him and/or play him heavy minutes. If he plays at all, I can’t imagine it’ll be for more than 15 minutes, and probably will be when the 2nd unit comes on the floor.

    49. TheRant

      johnlocke: The CEO of MSG was saying he has never seen a “product” (Lin) have this much impact on a business ever… in terms of increase in sales, global opportunity and the like. Plus during the Linsanity streak, he was among the best players in the NBA and he’s young. There is just no way we give all that up for maybe 2 more strong years from a 38 year old pt guard.

      Plain and simple — MSG gets a percentage of licensing from jersey sales. And Lin’s Jersey is I think the second best seller in the NBA right now, and he’s played, what, 20 games?

      I think Dolan would sooner find Jesus and be born again than lose Lin.

    50. ruruland

      Frank: Yeah, I’m only thinking about next year to keep myself from getting overhyped about a possible game 6 at MSG with a full-on Return of Linsanity.

      Re: Novak – I think if the Knicks offer him some flexibility and security (ie. player options) he would come back. He just seems like he’s having too much fun playing here.I’d love to think JR wants back, but his reported history of $ problems (and his father’s quotes) make me think otherwise.

      btw – I forgot to add on that I think Baron will be back with the team next year. He’s still getting paid by Cleveland next year, and given his injuries, I don’t think he’ll be getting much of an offer from any other team.With J-Lin (and probably Bibby) coming back, he can take his sweet time getting back this time.

      Possible SG stopgaps? Delfino, Pietrus, Jodie Meeks, Sonny Weems – prob all could be had for minimum.

      Delfino and Pietrus would be steals — both can defend, drive on wrong-footed defenders, and shoot 3s at above average rates.

      Neither as overall talented as JR of course, but if you’re talking about maximizing Lin, Melo and Amar’e maybe you prefer lower usage players.

      Would still prefer keeping JR if he was willing to sign for a little less this year.

    51. 2FOR18

      Z: Why not??

      2015 has a lot more hope than 2013 and 2014.

      Besides, not looking 3 years down the road brought us: Eddy Curry, Jerome James, Steve Francis, Shandon Anderson, Jamal Crawford, Allan Houston’s contract, Howard Eisley…; and it lost us: Treor Ariza, Joakim Noah, LaMarcus Aldridge, Marcus Camby, Nene…

      We should definitely be worried about 2015 (and not let one playoff victory in 12 years go to our heads:)

      Fine, so when Amare and Tyson are walking around like Fred Sanford in 2015, I will post an “I told you so” :)

    52. johnlocke

      If we lose JR and Novak (which I think is highly likely, close to 75% for Novak, and 95%+ for JR) …we’ll desperately need 3 point shooting and will have no consistent 3 point shooter left on the team. Both Delfino and Peitrus are above average, but not great shooters. Looking at free agent market, not that many knock-down shooters out there, that are within our price range. Maybe we could do some sort of deal to package Toney to get one…but his market value is so low right now, I don’t think we could trade him for free. This is esp. important — as you’ve pointed out several times — importance of knock down shooters to a melo centric offense. Potentially big problem next season.

      ruruland: Delfino and Pietrus would be steals — both can defend, drive on wrong-footed defenders, and shoot 3s at above average rates.

      Neither as overall talented as JR of course, but if you’re talking about maximizing Lin, Melo and Amar’e maybe you prefer lower usage players.

      Would still prefer keeping JR if he was willing to sign for a little less this year.

    53. Z

      2FOR18: Fine, so when Amare and Tyson are walking around like Fred Sanford in 2015, I will post an “I told you so”:)

      Honestly, Amar’e will have more value to the Knicks in 2015 than he will in 2013 and 2014. He’ll be a $23,000,000 expiring contract.

    54. Caleb

      Amare can offer a lot, even on the downside of his career. As team centerpiece – forget it. As 30 mpg, 3rd big man? He’s awesome. People fall all over themselves for Brandon Bass and Amare can do the same thing twice as well. Assuming his ego can take it, which I think it can.

      Lin vs. Nash – a summer argument, but let’s not make it out to be just about the cash. Nash is 38 years old!!!!! Yes he’s hold up great, but Lin probably has a 20-30 percent chance of being better next year, and about a 50+ percent chance in 2013-2014. And he could be our PG forever, if he’s any good.

      You could make a decent case for signing Nash, but it’s not a clear money vs. winning argument.

    55. gjknick

      Caleb: Amare can offer a lot, even on the downside of his career. As team centerpiece – forget it. As 30 mpg, 3rd big man? He’s awesome. People fall all over themselves for Brandon Bass and Amare can do the same thing twice as well. Assuming his ego can take it, which I think it can. Lin vs. Nash – a summer argument, but let’s not make it out to be just about the cash. Nash is 38 years old!!!!! Yes he’s hold up great, but Lin probably has a 20-30 percent chance of being better next year, and about a 50+ percent chance in 2013-2014. And he could be our PG forever, if he’s any good. You could make a decent case for signing Nash, but it’s not a clear money vs. winning argument.

      It’s all about timing. And ours sucks. To get Nash, you need to use the exemption. Which means bye bye Lin. Now there’s no way you throw away a 23 year old Lin for a 38 year old Nash. Yes, Nash is a hall of famer. Yes, he’s kept himself in superb shape. But to make that trade is just so short sighted.

    56. thenamestsam

      gjknick: It’s all about timing. And ours sucks. To get Nash, you need to use the exemption. Which means bye bye Lin. Now there’s no way you throw away a 23 year old Lin for a 38 year old Nash. Yes, Nash is a hall of famer. Yes, he’s kept himself in superb shape. But to make that trade is just so short sighted.

      Couldn’t agree more. Letting Lin leave to pursue the past his prime superstar is the sort of shortsighted, bad front office move this team has been making for years. We’re all excited about finally breaking the playoff schnide, but this team is not one player away, it’s just not. Miami is at best 2nd favorite to win the title right now, aren’t giving us anywhere near their best shot, and we were one jumper away from getting swept.

      Yes, we have a ton of injuries, but I feel like a lot of Knicks fans are under the impression that this is the best the Heat can do and if we can just get to this level we could win the series. The Heat honestly haven’t even needed their top gear yet. Lebron is averaging 37.5 minutes a game in this series. He averaged over 44 for the entire playoffs last year. Wade is at 35. He averaged 39 a game last year. If we were actually close to beating them those guys would be playing an extra 15 minutes a game combined. That’s a big difference.

      We are improving, but we still need to get significantly better in a number of ways to win a championship. We are not one player away right now, and gambling the future on the idea that we are would be very foolish indeed.

    57. Doug

      Bad news, guys. Baron completely tore both his ACL and MCL, in addition to the partially torn patellar tendon.

      Pretty close to a Shaun Livingston special. This might be the end of the road for him.

    58. thenamestsam

      Doug:
      Bad news, guys. Baron completely tore both his ACL and MCL, in addition to the partially torn patellar tendon.

      Pretty close to a Shaun Livingston special. This might be the end of the road for him.

      I’d go stronger than “might be”. It would be unbelievable if he made it back from this. Given his age, the severity of the injury, his other health issues, and the fact that he was pretty borderline as an NBA player this year anyway, I’d say it’s the longest of long shots that he ever gets real minutes in the NBA again.

      It’s always a shame to see a guy go out life that, but he had his head held high even on the stretcher and it was nice to see everyone, even the Heat, showing him respect as he left the court. His career was probably something of a disappointment overall but he had some truly, truly unforgettable moments on a basketball court and those will live on for a long time.

    59. johnlocke

      That’s pretty crazy…and there wasn’t really much contact on the play. Same for Shump. Crazy how many times so many of these injuries just happen w/o contact. Pretty sure, he’s done…seems to be a smart guy with lots of other stuff going on.

      Doug:
      Bad news, guys. Baron completely tore both his ACL and MCL, in addition to the partially torn patellar tendon.

      Pretty close to a Shaun Livingston special. This might be the end of the road for him.

    60. gjknick

      Doug: Bad news, guys. Baron completely tore both his ACL and MCL, in addition to the partially torn patellar tendon.Pretty close to a Shaun Livingston special. This might be the end of the road for him.

      That’s a shame. Hate to see guys careers end due to a major injury. From a basketball standpoint, not sure he had alot more to give based on what we saw this year, but you never know. This year we’ve seen Bibby go from being the butt of daily jokes regarding his dead/undead status to playing some important minutes in a semi-competent manner.

    61. formido

      It’s because of his back. His back pain is a symptom of posterior chain strength imbalances. When your back is weak, the rest of your posterior chain strains to compensate, and it puts enormous pressure on your knees. For regular people, that usually means back and/or knee and/or ankle pain. For top flight athletes the consequences can be more dire.

      Derrick Rose was also out with back pain this season. I read recently that he doesn’t like to work out. He said he started doing it in the last year, but in my experience, people who aren’t really self-motivated to train don’t see much improvements in strength regimens. That’s a shame, because his high natural power output puts a lot of stress on his joints and is a huge continuing risk. If he doesn’t build up posterior chain strength, this won’t be the last of his problems.

      My girlfriend used to have chronic back spasms as a result of breaking her back 4 years ago in college. I started her on hip thrusts [1] and she’s been back spasm free for almost a year. I like it because it strengthens the erector spinae and glutes while not putting any vertical compression on the spine (i.e., it’s safe). Once those are strong, the spine stays very stable. Anecdotally, hip thrusts have cured others’ back pain, too, but it’s too new to have been scientifically validated by peer reviewed research yet.

      Of course, NBA teams have world class physios, and there are other safe ways to strengthen the posterior chain, but the motivation of the athlete to properly condition himself is 90% of it. You can’t make someone do the work.

      [1] http://bretcontreras.com/2010/08/the-hip-thrust-spread-the-word/

      johnlocke: That’s pretty crazy…and there wasn’t really much contact on the play.

    62. bobneptune

      am i the only one who was completely embarrassed by the confetti and streamers from the rafters for the mighty “not getting swept again” celebration.

      thr absolute low class low point in my 50+ year knick/ranger fandom.

      what’s next in the dolan garden….. “participation ribbon/trophies!”

    63. jon abbey

      bobneptune:
      am i the only one who was completely embarrassed by the confetti and streamers from the rafters for the mighty “not getting swept again” celebration.

      thr absolute low class low point in my 50+ year knick/ranger fandom.

      what’s next in the dolan garden….. “participation ribbon/trophies!”

      the Lakers supposedly do that after every win, regular season too.

    64. bobneptune

      jon abbey: the Lakers supposedly do that after every win, regular season too.

      a complete embarrassment at the supposed “mecca”.

      will dolan commission a playoff participation ring ceremony next opening night. i mean after all, after a decade of suck fever, tanking 2 seasons and rebuilding for 2 more…. we won a home playoff game!!!! whoopie….. confetti and streamers for all!

    65. johnlocke

      That hadn’t been just a regular occurrence for us…..11 year wait man. 1 win but felt like more…huge monkey off the back of the franchise.

      bobneptune:
      am i the only one who was completely embarrassed by the confetti and streamers from the rafters for the mighty “not getting swept again” celebration.

      thr absolute low class low point in my 50+ year knick/ranger fandom.

      what’s next in the dolan garden….. “participation ribbon/trophies!”

    66. Doug

      bobneptune: thr absolute low class low point in my 50+ year knick/ranger fandom.

      I hate it when people are so dramatic. It makes me want to set my self on fire!

    67. 2FOR18

      Doug: I hate it when people are so dramatic. It makes me want to set my self on fire!

      I see what you did there.

    68. 2FOR18

      If you don’t sign JR nor Novak, can you use that combined $ (5 mil?) and give it all to Nash so you can also give Lin the MLE?

    69. Z

      2FOR18:
      If you don’t sign JR nor Novak, can you use that combined $ (5 mil?) and give it all to Nash so you can also give Lin the MLE?

      No. But you can try to get one of them (Lin or Nash) to sign for $5 mil and the other to sign for $2 mil. I think that’s the only way to get them both in NY next year (and Novak would have to take some kind of vets minimum if he wants to return, too). Basically, you’d be asking a lot of marketable players to play for peanuts just to be in NY. Could happen, I’d suppose, but the name Coach Jackson would probably have to be thrown in there somewhere…

    70. bobneptune

      Doug: I hate it when people are so dramatic. It makes me want to set my self on fire!

      yeah, i love to see msg turned into a bush league gym. i expect that silliness when i take my kids to a lexington legends single a baseball game with the mustard chasing the hot dog during the 7th inning stretch. i better shut up before i give dolan any more halftime ideas.

      http://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/PavSs.jpeg

    71. StatsTeacher

      Z: No. But you can try to get one of them (Lin or Nash) to sign for $5 mil and the other to sign for $2 mil. I think that’s the only way to get them both in NY next year (and Novak would have to take some kind of vets minimum if he wants to return, too). Basically, you’d be asking a lot of marketable players to play for peanuts just to be in NY. Could happen, I’d suppose, but the name Coach Jackson would probably have to be thrown in there somewhere…

      How does San Antonio have a 5 deep bench? They throw waves of 6 foot 7 inch scorers at you, they haven’t lost in a month.

      Novak loves NY and I think JR does too, we’ll see what happens this summer.

    72. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      StatsTeacher: How does San Antonio have a 5 deep bench?They throw waves of 6 foot 7 inch scorers at you, they haven’t lost in a month.

      Novak loves NY and I think JR does too, we’ll see what happens this summer.

      Well, they picked up two players in DeJuan Blair and Kahwi Leonard who were projected to be excellent NBA players. Some stats guy backed them with his pseudoscientific PAWS40 statistic. Luck, I think.

    73. nicos

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: Well, they picked up two players in DeJuan Blair and Kahwi Leonard who were projected to be excellent NBA players. Some stats guy backed them with his pseudoscientific PAWS40 statistic. Luck, I think.

      Still with Dejuan Blair?? DeJuan Blair is basically a nice back-up. Solid pick, but there’s a reason he’s never averaged more than 22 minutes a night (and 13 minutes a night in the playoffs). He can’t guard anyone- his synergy defensive stats are about as bad as they can possible be. I’m sure the Knicks would trade TD for him in a heartbeat but if SA was looking to trade him for a first round pick do you think they’d have any takers? I really doubt it. There are players worth still kicking yourself for not taking three years later- DeJuan Blair isn’t one of them.

    74. MJG1789

      I have read with some fascination all these months (and years) the ongoing battle between stats and “the eye,” and of course the pro-Melo and anti-Melo factions. It’s true that Blair and Leonard were both “intelligent” picks based on stats, but that still only tells part of the story. Stephen Jackson, for example, the late season pickup, has terrible stats but has played brilliantly for the Spurs, from the very first game when he bumped the hell out of Dirk Nowitski. He was great again tonight. It remains to be seen whether Blair will ever get consistent enough to do more than bounce around the next few years, but Leonard looks like he will be in a Spurs uniform for the next 10 years.

      Since I am also a Knicks fan, it does make me genuflect toward the Spurs FO in terms of putting together this team. Paddy Mills would be playing 40+ minutes a night for the Knicks…

      I’ll be praying for a miracle to overcome the LeBrons, but I’m mostly hoping to watch a Lin/Shump backcourt for the next several years.

    75. Brian Cronin

      Tony Allen is a great defender, so I don’t want to take anything away from his great play in the last minute of the Clippers/Grizzlies game (which the Grizzlies just tied). However, if you need to get the ball inbounds, why in the world would you ever throw it in Tony Allen’s direction? The Clippers are such morons.

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