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Knicks Morning News (Monday, Mar 04 2013)

  • [New York Times] Kobe, Lakers Hold Off Hawks to Get Back to .500 (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:25:56 GMT)
    Although Kobe Bryant has coined his own nicknames before, his latest self-created moniker seemed particularly appropriate after an intoxicating performance against Atlanta.

  • [New York Times] Kobe, Lakers Hold Off Hawks to Get Back to .500 (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:28:41 GMT)
    Kobe Bryant drove past Josh Smith and rose up with the athleticism of a player half his age, throwing down an arena-rocking, one-handed dunk. A few possessions later, Bryant drove right at Smith and willed a layup over the taller defender for the Los Angeles Lakers’ winning points.

  • [New York Times] Pacers Hold Off Late Bulls Rally for 97-92 Win (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 05:16:44 GMT)
    David West and George Hill came to Indiana to make the Pacers title contenders.

  • [New York Times] Carlesimo Seeking Answers to Nets’ Scoring Slump (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 04:35:12 GMT)
    After losing four of five games, Coach P. J. Carlesimo is struggling to come up with productive rotations as the season winds down.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Late Rally Falls Short as Clippers Lose to Thunder (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 04:02:52 GMT)
    The Thunder beat the Clippers in a showdown of two of the best teams in the Western Conference, and the Spurs, without Tony Parker, routed the Pistons.

  • [New York Times] Wall Rallies Wizards Past 76ers After Beal Injury (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 03:50:04 GMT)
    John Wall has longed for the opportunity he received Sunday night, though likely not in the way he got it.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Rout Pistons 114-75 Without Injured Parker (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:59:04 GMT)
    Manu Ginobili scored 17 points, Tim Duncan had 16 points and 11 rebounds, and the San Antonio Spurs routed the Detroit Pistons 114-75 on Sunday night despite playing without All-Star point guard Tony Parker.

  • [New York Times] After 10 Uneventful Days, Martin Hopes to Stay a Few More (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:52:23 GMT)
    Kenyon Martin has said and done the right things since joining the Knicks on a 10-day contract. The Knicks must decide Monday whether to keep him around for a bit longer.

  • [New York Times] Parsons Scores 32 as Rockets Beat Mavericks (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:50:11 GMT)
    Chandler Parsons scored a career-high 32 points on 12-for-13 shooting and the Houston Rockets snapped a nine-game losing streak to Dallas with an easy 136-103 win over the Mavericks on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] J. R. Smith’s Miscues Help Bring Down Knicks (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:39:32 GMT)
    Guard J. R. Smith continued his poor shooting against the Heat, hitting only three of a game-high 14 3-point attempts, and made critical turnovers in the loss.

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: LeBron James and the Heat Are Always in the Knicks’ Way (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:17:33 GMT)
    As long as LeBron James plays for the Miami Heat, the Knicks and their fans face an ultimately grim future.

  • [New York Times] Salmons, Thompson Lead Kings Past Bobcats, 119-83 (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 02:08:23 GMT)
    John Salmons scored 22 points and Jason Thompson had 18 points and 14 rebounds to lead the Sacramento Kings in a 119-83 victory over the slumping Charlotte Bobcats on Sunday.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Searching for a New Way to Measure Defensive Production (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:54:00 GMT)
    A research paper presented at the M.I.T. Sloan and Sports Analytics Conference showcases a method for assessing basket protection.

  • [New York Times] Big 1st Half Helps Memphis Coast Past Magic 108-82 (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:52:47 GMT)
    Tayshaun Prince had 14 points and Marc Gasol added 12 points and 11 assists as the Memphis Grizzlies cruised to a 108-82 victory over the Orlando Magic on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Section 15: The German (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:48:38 GMT)
    Toby Rolfes, a lawyer from Cologne, Germany, visited Barclays Center to cheer for his countryman Dirk Nowitzki when the Mavericks played the Nets.

  • [New York Times] Heat 99, Knicks 93: LeBron James and Heat Rally Past Knicks for 14th Straight Win (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:25:51 GMT)
    Led by LeBron James, who brushed off a knee injury and scored 29 points, Miami overcame a double-digit deficit to beat the Knicks for the first time this season.

  • [New York Times] Thunder Holds Off Clippers to Win 108-104 (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 00:53:07 GMT)
    With Oklahoma City trying to hold off another marquee team, Russell Westbrook took charge â?? in the huddle. He urged his Thunder teammates to keep their composure, set screens and play defense.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks blow big lead, bow down to King James’ Heat (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 05:00:51 GMT)
    There were two convincing statements made on Sunday at Madison Square Garden; the Miami Heat is the NBA’s best team and LeBron James is still the best player on the planet. The latter has plenty to do with the former as LeBron scored 12 fourth quarter points.

  • [New York Daily News] Lawrence: Role for Amar’e doesn’t sit well (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 04:40:31 GMT)
    LeBron Jame marched like a soldier on parade on Sunday afternoon after bombing in a 3-pointer, and a little while later he was stealing a mindless J.R. Smith pass and sealing the Knicks’ fate with a monster breakaway dunk that they must have loved back in South Beach.

  • [New York Daily News] Melo loses star war with King James (Mon, 04 Mar 2013 04:30:28 GMT)
    More than an hour after the Knicks had been humbled by the Miami Heat on Sunday, Carmelo Anthony ambled over to his locker with an amused look.

  • 43 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Monday, Mar 04 2013)

    1. thenamestsam

      Losing sucks, but I definitely think yesterday was mostly good news for the Knicks. Miami is clearly better than us, but that was much was already abundantly clear, whether we won yesterday or not. They’re the defending champs, running away with the 1st seed, etc. They’re clearly the class of the Eastern Conference regardless of what the Knicks players say in press conferences.

      But I also think it’s pretty clear at this point that we match up very well with them. We certainly shouldn’t be the favorites against them in a series or anything crazy like that (they’re even stronger in the playoffs when they max out the Big 3′s minutes), but if we had a hot stretch from downtown we could push them to the limit and I don’t think beating them is inconceivable. It’s just a good matchup for us.

    2. jon abbey

      I disagree, it was a 1 PM Sunday start in a regular season game, very easy to start sluggish. once Miami woke up, they won the second half by 20 points, on our floor. home court advantage has totally disappeared for NY in the last few months, 11-9 in their last 20 after the 10-0 start. none of that is good news in my book.

      over/under for Irving if he plays tonight? 40?

    3. thenamestsam

      That’s fair on the 1 PM start and I think Miami has made it pretty clear (as they did in the 2nd half yesterday) that their top gear is unmatched certainly in the Eastern Conference, and probably in the entire league. But I still think there are reasons to be optimistic about that specific matchup. We don’t turn the ball over much, we limit their ability to attack in transition, and we’re at our most fluent offensively when teams force us to move the ball with the kind of swarming defense that Miami uses. If we had shot well (which granted we haven’t really done in months, and may not really be capable of) we might have been up 30 at half. Not sure that can all be down to a 1 PM tip, especially in a National TV game that the Heat clearly had circled on their calendar a little bit.

      To be clear though I’m not generally optimistic about this Knicks team, just about that specific matchup. You’re right that the home court advantage is a big issue (Neil Paine has an article about HCA up today with a table that shows we have one of the worst in the league over the last ~10 years) and I have almost no confidence that we will advance to face the Heat in the playoffs. But I do think we can do damage if we get there.

    4. er

      jon abbey: I disagree, it was a 1 PM Sunday start in a regular season game, very easy to start sluggish. once Miami woke up, they won the second half by 20 points, on our floor. home court advantage has totally disappeared for NY in the last few months, 11-9 in their last 20 after the 10-0 start. none of that is good news in my book.over/under for Irving if he plays tonight? 40?

      I disagree jon, the knicks in the three matchups have played the heat well. Yesterday the Heat won because of 3-5 specific plays and some open shots that were made by the Heat and missed by the bockers. They can get back on track in clev and det and hopefully okc

    5. d-mar

      jon abbey:
      I disagree, it was a 1 PM Sunday start in a regular season game, very easy to start sluggish. once Miami woke up, they won the second half by 20 points, on our floor. home court advantage has totally disappeared for NY in the last few months, 11-9 in their last 20 after the 10-0 start. none of that is good news in my book.

      over/under for Irving if he plays tonight? 40?

      That’s a pretty negative way to look at yesterday’s game Jon. We were tied with 3 minutes left, which I think any team would take against the best team in the NBA on a 13 game win streak, home or on the road.

    6. cgreene

      These guys absolutely make a point of playing against the Knicks because of the additional media exposure. I made the point last week that MSG is barely if at all a home court bc other players know that if they play well there they will get extra coverage and attention. We always get most teams best shot. That’s why I think we will be a bit more battle tested come playoffs.

      On another note I think Woodson through terrible rotation decisions has blown this team’s offensive momentum. I don’t get at all what he is doing w Shumpert, Amare, White starting. I have been crowing about this for weeks. He’s a good motivator. His tactical instincts suck.

    7. Frank

      cgreene: On another note I think Woodson through terrible rotation decisions has blown this team’s offensive momentum. I don’t get at all what he is doing w Shumpert, Amare, White starting. I have been crowing about this for weeks. He’s a good motivator. His tactical instincts suck.

      not that i necessarily think you’re wrong, but we should also consider that this is a marathon and not a sprint. of course you’d like to win these games, but I imagine part of the theory behind not playing Amare at the end of games is so the opponent doesn’t take advantage of his defense, but part of it is probably also Woodson wants Amare to know that same thing – so he’ll work harder on defense. Shumpert may have been put on secondary offensive players so that he didn’t lose his defensive confidence going up against the Kyrie Irvings of the world until he was ready – and recently we’ve seen him on the ball more than in the weeks prior.

      James White I have no idea about.

    8. er

      cgreene: These guys absolutely make a point of playing against the Knicks because of the additional media exposure. I made the point last week that MSG is barely if at all a home court bc other players know that if they play well there they will get extra coverage and attention. We always get most teams best shot. That’s why I think we will be a bit more battle tested come playoffs.On another note I think Woodson through terrible rotation decisions has blown this team’s offensive momentum. I don’t get at all what he is doing w Shumpert, Amare, White starting. I have been crowing about this for weeks. He’s a good motivator. His tactical instincts suck.

      i agree, btw where you trying to say amare should start? I think he should stay on the bench but just play way more down the stretch

    9. flossy

      Frank: but I imagine part of the theory behind not playing Amare at the end of games is so the opponent doesn’t take advantage of his defense, but part of it is probably also Woodson wants Amare to know that same thing – so he’ll work harder on defense.

      But Amar’e was playing pretty stellar defense by his standards and still got dissed at the end of the game (and on national TV, against a rival, to boot). So what’s the point?

    10. Frank

      flossy: But Amar’e was playing pretty stellar defense by his standards and still got dissed at the end of the game (and on national TV, against a rival, to boot).So what’s the point?

      I wasn’t necessarily talking about yesterday’s game, but just in general.

      btw, as I wrote in my last posts on the previous thread, I think the offense was perfectly fine yesterday. TWENTY-TWO wide open 3′s, 29 shots at the rim. Overall I’m a little disturbed that Melo only took 1 shot in the last 6 minutes of the game, but this is a completely different discussion today if JR and Novak shoot just a little better on WIDE OPEN unguarded shots.

    11. cgreene

      er: i agree, btw where you trying to say amare should start? I think he should stay on the bench but just play way more down the stretch

      I don’t care if Amare starts or not. But I have no idea what the artificial starting lineups are about. I think it’s indicative of a some dogma to needing to think they have depth. Depth is not what wins titles. Depth is more of a reg season attribute. The best 7-8 wins titles. Our best 8 are Felton, Shumpert, Melo, Stat, Chandler, Kidd, JR, Camby/Kenyon (whoever is playing better of the 2). In no particular order.

      When Woodson answered the question yesterday about why he didn’t play Amare down the stretch he said specifically “they were going small so I wanted to match them.” He also mentioned that he wanted to go with Tyson. This goes to show that he got the strategy completely wrong. The only way to beat the Heat is with size and rebounding. So he was thinking about this completely wrong. Kinda scary if you ask me. He will have to choose between closing games with JR, Kidd or Shumpert. Period.

    12. Frank

      What I didn’t like about Woodson yesterday, though, was when he called out JR for shooting 3′s – ““You can’t take 18 shots and 14 shots be 3s. That’s a bit much. A lot of times, those shots look appetizing — and he makes a lot of them — but tonight, he didn’t make them.””

      Sorry Woody – Jason Kidd had been shooting 7 for his last 70 from 3 point range and you tell him to keep shooting. JR has been shooting 40+% from 3 for the last month+, and has WIDE OPEN 3s. You want him to drive out of an open 3 and go into his stepback from 19 feet?

    13. d-mar

      cgreene: I don’t care if Amare starts or not.But I have no idea what the artificial starting lineups are about.I think it’s indicative of a some dogma to needing to think they have depth.Depth is not what wins titles.Depth is more of a reg season attribute.The best 7-8 wins titles.Our best 8 are Felton, Shumpert, Melo, Stat, Chandler, Kidd, JR, Camby/Kenyon (whoever is playing better of the 2).In no particular order.

      When Woodson answered the question yesterday about why he didn’t play Amare down the stretch he said specifically “they were going small so I wanted to match them.”He also mentioned that he wanted to go with Tyson.This goes to show that he got the strategy completely wrong.The only way to beat the Heat is with size and rebounding.So he was thinking about this completely wrong.Kinda scary if you ask me.He will have to choose between closing games with JR, Kidd or Shumpert.Period.

      Blowhard Francesa was going on and on today about how you can’t play Stat down the stretch because Miami will go small and kill you from the outside. (He also stated that Amare plays “no defense” so he was obviously watching the game very closely)

      But you can’t just concede the last move to the other coach, let Miami try and go small and punish them inside.

    14. flossy

      Frank: I wasn’t necessarily talking about yesterday’s game, but just in general.

      btw, as I wrote in my last posts on the previous thread, I think the offense was perfectly fine yesterday. TWENTY-TWO wide open 3?s, 29 shots at the rim. Overall I’m a little disturbed that Melo only took 1 shot in the last 6 minutes of the game, but this is a completely different discussion today if JR and Novak shoot just a little better on WIDE OPEN unguarded shots.

      The offense was fine… until the last 7 minutes of the game after Amar’e was benched, Miami played keep-away with Melo and let JR Smith chuck the Knicks out of the game.

    15. ruruland

      cgreene: I don’t care if Amare starts or not. But I have no idea what the artificial starting lineups are about. I think it’s indicative of a some dogma to needing to think they have depth. Depth is not what wins titles. Depth is more of a reg season attribute. The best 7-8 wins titles. Our best 8 are Felton, Shumpert, Melo, Stat, Chandler, Kidd, JR, Camby/Kenyon (whoever is playing better of the 2). In no particular order. When Woodson answered the question yesterday about why he didn’t play Amare down the stretch he said specifically “they were going small so I wanted to match them.” He also mentioned that he wanted to go with Tyson. This goes to show that he got the strategy completely wrong. The only way to beat the Heat is with size and rebounding. So he was thinking about this completely wrong. Kinda scary if you ask me. He will have to choose between closing games with JR, Kidd or Shumpert. Period.

      Woodson moves slowly, but he won’t stick with a failed strategy.

      Amar’e can guard Battier just fine. He’s far more mobile than Kendrick Perkins near the 3-point line.

      Who on Miami’s small lineup guards Amar’e? Battier (lol). I don’t think Lebron can guard him down there.

      Bosh has always struggled with Amar’e, and that frees up Chandler on offensive rebounds.

    16. cgreene

      ruruland: Woodson moves slowly, but he won’t stick with a failed strategy.

      Amar’e can guard Battier just fine. He’s far more mobile than Kendrick Perkins near the 3-point line.

      Who on Miami’s small lineup guards Amar’e? Battier (lol). I don’t think Lebron can guard him down there.

      Bosh has alwaysstruggled with Amar’e, and that frees up Chandler on offensive rebounds.

      Exactly. But it’s not a question of evolving towards a better strategy over time. It’s reading what is happening in the game and making the adjustment in real time. Some games going w Amare will be the wrong strategy. Recognize when you have the advantage and use it.

    17. ruruland

      jon abbey: I disagree, it was a 1 PM Sunday start in a regular season game, very easy to start sluggish. once Miami woke up, they won the second half by 20 points, on our floor. home court advantage has totally disappeared for NY in the last few months, 11-9 in their last 20 after the 10-0 start. none of that is good news in my book.over/under for Irving if he plays tonight? 40?

      Dating back to last season, the Knicks have yet to allow Miami to score over 100 points in the Garden (84, 99, 93, 89, 83). Also, they’ve lead for something like 85 percent of the minutes in their three games this year, giving up 99, 84 and 92 points to them this year.

      The Heat were about as fired up as they can get in the regular season when the Knicks blew them out in Miami.

      And yes, the Knicks match up really well, far better than they did last year.

      Why?

      The Knicks have the right mixture of size, interior mobility and spread pick and roll attack that can exploit their over-aggressive defense.

      The Heat really don’t have an answer for the Knicks pick and roll, whether Melo is on the ball or off of it with Raymond running it. Their traps just aren’t effective most of the time.

      The Heat yielded the same kind of looks to the Knicks they did when they got blown up.

      The Heat are the better team against the field, I’m not sure they’re all that much better head to head because of their inability to guard the high pick and roll, which largely slows down their semi-transition offense.

    18. ruruland

      cgreene: Exactly. But it’s not a question of evolving towards a better strategy over time. It’s reading what is happening in the game and making the adjustment in real time. Some games going w Amare will be the wrong strategy. Recognize when you have the advantage and use it.

      Well, I agree with the issues in real-time. But luckily Woodson will have four regular season games to adjust to Miami in the playoffs. He tried making adjustments in last year’s matchup but he didn’t have the personnel to do it.

      The Knicks have a lot more dimensions on offense that Woodson can use, and I think he’ll see that they can’t guard Amar’e in the post, which was not much of an option last year.

    19. max fisher-cohen

      er:
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/cavaliers-guard-kyrie-irving-likely-to-face-knicks-after-missing-3-games-with-knee-injury/2013/03/04/788d261c-84ea-11e2-a80b-3edc779b676f_story.html

      why does it always feel like people return from injury just to beat up on the knicks lol.

      I don’t know — I feel like we’ve been lucky in this regard. Lee missed the GS game and Nene missed the Wizards game. We were due for a reversal.

      I agree that NY matches up well with Miami, but they’re such an inferior team that that doesn’t make much difference. Miami’s defense is better for teams that attack with penetration/PnR due their great quickness. THey struggle against post threats, which is why Melo has done well. They also struggle against teams that protect the ball well, another asset of NY’s. Still, you’d rather your post threat be a true big man so that Lebron couldn’t contain him, which is why the Knicks will never match up as well as Dallas did or even as well as Indiana can when Hibbert plays well. if you can force Miami to play Joel Anthony, you make in MUCH easier to rotate to their three point shooters after helping in the paint and your chances of winning go up significantly.

    20. Frank

      ruruland: The Heat yielded the same kind of looks to the Knicks they did when they got blown up.

      Exactly. If we hit half our totally unguarded 3 pointers (which I would guess is our average rate on that kind of shot when Novak/Melo/JR are shooting them), we win this game going away. That 14 point lead we had is a 20+ point lead and we never look back.

      Re: Woody, I think he’ll do some second-guessing of himself about not playing Amare more down the stretch. If LBJ is going to take on the task of covering Melo one-on-one, then Amare will be a massive mismatch against anyone on the Heat except maybe Joel Anthony (who doesn’t play anymore).

      btw, love how the media is fawning over Lebron’s play on Tyson, when the basket-cam clearly showed it was an obvious off-arm foul on him. That was one of the biggest plays of the game.

    21. jon abbey

      on one hand, I agree that NY matches up better than most teams against MIA, but on the other hand, LeBron is one of the few people that can shut down Melo down the stretch, and then we have basically no offense, especially if Woodson isn’t playing Amar’e more.

      and yes, I’m exceedingly negative on this team right now, sorry.

    22. Frank

      jon abbey: and yes, I’m exceedingly negative on this team right now, sorry.

      I just don’t see why. They’d won 3 in a row prior to that, including an excellent win against on the road against an underrated Washington squad. It’s a little disconcerting to see them not be able to score in the last 6 minutes of the game, but again – other than a couple bad possessions, the good shots were there — they just didn’t go down. maybe i’ve got rose-colored glasses on, but I didn’t feel so terrible about that game. Not sure what the odds would be if they were to meet in a 7 games series, but I think we’d have a 1 in 3 shot of beating them. That’s not bad.

    23. Frank

      if anything, I think the bad offense was us spending too much time trying to get the ball to Melo. By my limited basketball knowledge, the way around that is to either just run another play (which they did, with Felton/TC high PNR the last couple minutes) or to have Melo bring the ball up.

      The downside of LBJ blanketing Melo is that he might not see the ball. The upside of LBJ blanketing Melo is that their best defender both on the perimeter and down low can be effectively moved wherever we want him to be, opening up other stuff.

    24. er

      Frank: Exactly. If we hit half our totally unguarded 3 pointers (which I would guess is our average rate on that kind of shot when Novak/Melo/JR are shooting them), we win this game going away. That 14 point lead we had is a 20+ point lead and we never look back. Re: Woody, I think he’ll do some second-guessing of himself about not playing Amare more down the stretch. If LBJ is going to take on the task of covering Melo one-on-one, then Amare will be a massive mismatch against anyone on the Heat except maybe Joel Anthony (who doesn’t play anymore). btw, love how the media is fawning over Lebron’s play on Tyson, when the basket-cam clearly showed it was an obvious off-arm foul on him. That was one of the biggest plays of the game.

      I saw the game sealing lebron dunk on sportscenter and almost vomited lol

    25. jon abbey

      Frank: I just don’t see why. They’d won 3 in a row prior to that, including an excellent win against on the road against an underrated Washington squad.It’s a little disconcerting to see them not be able to score in the last 6 minutes of the game, but again – other than a couple bad possessions, the good shots were there — they just didn’t go down.maybe i’ve got rose-colored glasses on, but I didn’t feel so terrible about that game.Not sure what the odds would be if they were to meet in a 7 games series, but I think we’d have a 1 in 3 shot of beating them. That’s not bad.

      agreed about the Washington win, and I’m not talking about yesterday, I’m talking overall. there is still no real rotation, no set group of starters, and no reliable second offensive threat for the bulk of the game with Amare’s minutes being held to the mid-20′s. but mostly I hate the way we match up against almost every Eastern playoff team, and I think that will be even worse in a playoff series where teams adjust to each other. Melo has played way too many minutes also.

    26. er

      massive: http://bkref.com/tiny/UeJUKSince when has LeBron been able to shut down Carmelo? In other news, we need to stomp Cleveland tonight.

      he never shuts him down. Yesterday he helped deny him the ball though in the second half. He only got up something like 11 shots

    27. er

      jon abbey: agreed about the Washington win, and I’m not talking about yesterday, I’m talking overall. there is still no real rotation, no set group of starters, and no reliable second offensive threat for the bulk of the game with Amare’s minutes being held to the mid-20?s. but mostly I hate the way we match up against almost every Eastern playoff team, and I think that will be even worse in a playoff series where teams adjust to each other. Melo has played way too many minutes also.

      I think you are overestimating the east. The Hawks and Bucks are worthless, I think we can handle brooklyn and boston easily at our best. Even Chicago i feel can be beaten by the knicks in a 7 game series at our best

    28. nicos

      ruruland: Woodson moves slowly, but he won’t stick with a failed strategy.

      Amar’e can guard Battier just fine. He’s far more mobile than Kendrick Perkins near the 3-point line.

      Who on Miami’s small lineup guards Amar’e? Battier (lol). I don’t think Lebron can guard him down there.

      Bosh has alwaysstruggled with Amar’e, and that frees up Chandler on offensive rebounds.

      I agree that Woodson should figure it out. It’s really tough to play outside-in against the Heat- when they’re in full playoff mode they’ll take away a lot of the good looks the Knicks got yesterday. That said, like most teams, if you can make them move in and out as well as side to side you can get really good looks (and one big flaw they have is that they scramble even when it isn’t really necessary). Amar’e's post game is the easiest way to do that- not only did he score himself yesterday but the Knicks got great looks when he passed out of the post. Even if you suffer on defense, make a couple of buckets inside and I think you can put pressure on Spoelstra to go big to match up even if they’re scoring well on the other end. I think Spoelstra’s a good coach but he’s as weak a link as the Heat have- you have to try to make him blink and have him put out a less than optimum lineup.

    29. jon abbey

      Melo only got up 3 shots in the final 10:57, LeBron blanketed him. Melo has had a lot of success against him in the past, agreed, but I wouldn’t count on that in 4th quarters of tight games going forward, and then our offense is JR and Felton chucking a lot with the shot clock running down.

    30. er

      jon abbey: Melo only got up 3 shots in the final 10:57, LeBron blanketed him. Melo has had a lot of success against him in the past, agreed, but I wouldn’t count on that in 4th quarters of tight games going forward, and then our offense is JR and Felton chucking a lot with the shot clock running down.

      whoa @ 3 shots!!! I think melo should have been primary ball handler as many of the astute posters have said. The stat melo pnr is pretty leathal and woody needs a slap for not seeing that

    31. Frank

      jon abbey:
      Melo only got up 3 shots in the final 10:57, LeBron blanketed him. Melo has had a lot of success against him in the past, agreed, but I wouldn’t count on that in 4th quarters of tight games going forward, and then our offense is JR and Felton chucking a lot with the shot clock running down.

      I know we lost the game and that we didn’t score many points down the stretch, but I encourage you to go back and actually watch the last 6 minutes of the game. The open shots were there. We just didn’t hit them. And not to blame the refs, but 2 big plays that ended up in hoops at the other end for Miami were not called as fouls – the Tyson off-hand pull-down by Lebron, and a drive to the hoop where Felton got bumped hard on the body. Both resulted in our guy flat on his back (and complaining and not running back). No calls –> 5-on-4 runouts for Miami. Otherwise there were a lot of open shots being missed. Yes, they were jumpers, but they were jumpers by good shooters – JR and Melo.

      The offense didn’t look pretty but it still resulted in shots that were basically open looks. Can’t ask for more than that against Miami. If anything, having Amare in there would have resulted in more good looks nearer to the basket. But we had good looks.

    32. er

      Frank: I know we lost the game and that we didn’t score many points down the stretch, but I encourage you to go back and actually watch the last 6 minutes of the game. The open shots were there. We just didn’t hit them. And not to blame the refs, but 2 big plays that ended up in hoops at the other end for Miami were not called as fouls – the Tyson off-hand pull-down by Lebron, and a drive to the hoop where Felton got bumped hard on the body. Both resulted in our guy flat on his back (and complaining and not running back). No calls –> 5-on-4 runouts for Miami. Otherwise there were a lot of open shots being missed. Yes, they were jumpers, but they were jumpers by good shooters – JR and Melo.The offense didn’t look pretty but it still resulted in shots that were basically open looks. Can’t ask for more than that against Miami. If anything, having Amare in there would have resulted in more good looks nearer to the basket. But we had good looks.

      yea i agree with your premise. I particularly remember melo missing two uncontested J’s. And of course Earl was building a house

    33. BigBlueAL

      Same starting lineup tonight. Gotta keep White in their for his defense against the great Alonso Gee.

    34. er

      BigBlueAL: Same starting lineup tonight. Gotta keep White in their for his defense against the great Alonso Gee.

      lol, although i remeber him dropping like 25 on the knicks last year smh

    35. ruruland

      Al Iannazzone ?@Al_Iannazzone

      Woodson also said he has to find ways to get Amare more minutes, including at end of games.

    36. Donnie Walsh

      er: I think you are overestimating the east. The Hawks and Bucks are worthless, I think we can handle brooklyn and boston easily at our best. Even Chicago i feel can be beaten by the knicks in a 7 game series at our best

      The fact the Knicks are struggling against the east is the biggest reason to be pessimistic. The east is really weak this year, and yet the Knicks are struggling to beat the lesser teams in it. Hard to really discuss the Knicks as a serious title threat, or a team that matches up well with the Heat, when they are a pretty mediocre team in a bad conference. (the only reason they are clinging in the Atlantic is because of Jason Kidd and Rasheed Wallace front-loading their age 40-year-old seasons).

      Frank: but this is a completely different discussion today if…

      Yup. “If”. It’s a completely different discussion “if” a lot of things. Fact is, I can count the number of times “if” happened to the Knicks in my lifetime: “what if Larry Johnson had gotten fouled on that three point shot”; “what if Michal Jordan decided basketball was too easy and decided to try baseball”; “what if David Stern rigged the 1985 lottery”. Everything else is just a bad dose of reality.

    37. BigBlueAL

      Talking about LeBron’s knee on Sportscenter right now and showing highlights of what he did after he injured it. Really is remarkable how he just doesnt get hurt, that was an ugly looking landing on his leg yesterday.

    38. jon abbey

      BigBlueAL:
      Same starting lineup tonight.Gotta keep White in their for his defense against the great Alonso Gee.

      Woodson seems to increasingly be one of the weakest links here, why doesn’t Kenyon Martin get this job if you’re not going to play him otherwise? JAMES WHITE GIVES YOU NOTHING.

    39. flossy

      ruruland:
      Al Iannazzone ?@Al_Iannazzone

      Woodson also said he has to find ways to get Amare more minutes, including at end of games.

      Here’s a way: give James White zero minutes

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