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Knicks Morning News (Monday, Feb 27 2012)

  • [New York Daily News] Linsanity grips All-Star Weekend in Orlando (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:38:20 GMT)
    When Jeremy Lin suddenly appeared in the lobby of the players’ hotel here on Friday, the crowd pushed forward and Max Cayard politely pushed back.

  • [New York Post] Ex-Knick Houston still a shooting star (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 05:19:46 -0500)
    ORLANDO â?? Allan Houston looked as fit as he did during his playing days Saturday night at Amway Center when he sank two halfcourt shots to help the New York squad win the “Shooting Stars” competition.
    But Houston, the Knicks’ 40-year-old assistant general manger, making an NBA comeback is probably as…

  • [New York Post] Anthony, Lin & Co. could take Knicks far if they learn to sacrifice (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 05:22:18 -0500)
    ORLANDO, Fla. â?? Carmelo Anthony, Amar’e Stoudemire, Tyson Chandler, Jeremy Lin and Landry Fields left AmericanAirlines Arena in Miami late Thursday night headed their separate ways for the All-Star break.
    The Knicks starting five â?? and it is a very good starting five â?? were all going someplace warm.
    Stoudemire headed southeast…

  • [New York Post] Stars likely to align at MSG in ’15 (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:26:59 -0500)
    ORLANDO, Fla. ALL­â?? So when will the refurbished Garden finally get its NBA All-Star Game? It won’t be 2014, but you can bet big on 2015, according to sources familiar with the situation.
    Once Knicks owner James Dolan kicked off plans for his $800 million Garden transformation, one of the…

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. All-Star Game: West 152, East 149: West Holds Off the East After Bryant Overtakes Jordan (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:15:51 GMT)
    Kobe Bryant scored 27 points and surpassed Michael Jordan to become the most prolific scorer in the history of the N.B.A. All-Star Game.

  • [New York Times] Asian-American Players Show Their Love of the Game (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:09:09 GMT)
    Asian-Americans displayed their love of the game at a tournament in Hillburn, N.Y. Even before Jeremy Lin’s emergence, they had fallen for the sport.

  • [New York Times] Trademark Dispute Looming Over Who Discovered Jeremy Lin (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:38:08 GMT)
    The New York Knicks may have given Jeremy Lin his break in the NBA, but a sports ball maker in eastern China saw potential in the Harvard-educated Chinese-American more than a year and a half ago — and quietly registered his trademark for $700.

  • [New York Times] Durant Shines Brightest to Lead West to All-Star Victory (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 04:47:23 GMT)
    Kevin Durant stole the spotlight from LeBron James to help orchestrate a stirring 152-149 All-Star Game victory for the Western Conference Sunday that shifted from exhibition to grudge match in the closing stages.

  • [New York Times] Durant Says Winning All-Star MVP a Childhood Dream (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 05:03:34 GMT)
    Kevin Durant cringes a little whenever he hears his name next to words like elite or superstar.

  • [New York Times] Bryant, West Hold On to Win NBA All-Star Game (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:30:33 GMT)
    Kobe Bryant got the scoring record, Kevin Durant the MVP, and the West got the win — barely.

  • [New York Times] Sports of The Times: Chamique Holdsclaw Is Sharing Her Struggles Off the Court (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:09:09 GMT)
    Chamique Holdsclaw, who battled depression while starring at Christ the King High School in New York City and at Tennessee and in the W.N.B.A., is becoming an ambassador for Active Minds, a mental health advocacy group.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] LeBron praises Melo for second-half effort (Mon, 27 Feb 2012 01:01:35 EDT)
    ORLANDO — As it’s been since these famous words were said in 2010, “I’m taking my talents to South Beach,” the NBA has been all about pairing the popular quoter, LeBron James, with his superstar sidekick, Dwyane Wade.
    That was the case after the NBA All-Star game, when James, who scored 36 points, and Wade, who had a triple-double (24 points, 10 assists and 10 rebounds), once again stepped up to the press conference podium together — this time at the Amway Center Sunday night.

  • 38 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Monday, Feb 27 2012)

    1. Frank O.

      For the David Lee lovers out there, young Mr. Lee is putting together another solid season. More than 37 mins a game, second in the east in scoring, TS% a little off his career, as is eFG%! But with a career high usage of 24.6%, a little dip may have been expected.
      Still working the boards! 9.5 per 36. 10th in the west in scoring, 8th in rebounding. 7th in minutes. 8th in double-doubles.
      Probably the fifth best PF in the west.
      Lee…

    2. Dr. K

      Next up is a showdown between Lin and Kyrie Irving. The editors of Basketball I.Q. will post this again on Wednesday, but this link is an alternative statistical response to the question that TrueHoops asked over the weekend, “More special player: Irving or Rubio?”
      http://hoopstats101.blogspot.com/
      When Lin gets a few more games under his belt, Basketball I.Q. will have enough significant data to begin head-to-head comparisons between the three emerging backcourt neophytes: Lin, Irving, and Rubio.

    3. Gideon Zaga

      Hahahah I couldn’t believe Lebron didn’t take the last shot last night. What’s more even sad is that Melo was wide open one pass away from him. It’s even more amusing that the two most selfish players Kobe and Melo were mad at LBJ for not taking the shot. It will really have been a perfect ending for the 03 draft, Lebron wins MVP, melo displays his clutchness and hits the game winner and Wade with a triple double. That’s just too much of a bball fairy-tale

    4. flossy

      Howard and Nash would be pretty dangerous in the short term. That pair, plus the many 3 point shooters the Magic have, would actually be a better roster for D’Antoni that the Knicks currently sport.

      Hard to tell what Nash’s trade value is right now, but you gotta figure it’s higher than a steeply-declining Jameer Nelson and what, some low future draft picks? Ryan Anderson?

    5. ephus

      DS:
      Also:
      http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219230/Magic_To_Aggressively_Pursue_Trade_For_Nash

      What would it look like for Orland to aggressively seek a trade for Nash? To my eyes, Ryan Anderson is the only non-DH asset that might bring back Nash. The Magic could trade Anderson/Nelson for Nash, but I do not think that would placate Howard and make him more likely to re-sign. The other road would be to take some of Phoenix’s really bad contracts — Childress and Frye, but the only way I could make those numbers work would be to send Hedo to Phoenix, and I do not think that is going to fly.

      So, to me this sounds like Orlando is trying to stoke the bidding for DH by claiming that they have a viable plan to get him to stay. BTW, there is nothing that would stop Dallas from poaching both DH and Steve Nash during the offseason. How would Nash/Dirk/Howard would be an awesome core for the next two years.

    6. Frank O.

      Frank O.:
      For the David Lee lovers out there, young Mr. Lee is putting together another solid season. More than 37 mins a game, second in the east in scoring, TS% a little off his career, as is eFG%! But with a career high usage of 24.6%, a little dip may have been expected.
      Still working the boards! 9.5 per 36. 10th in the west in scoring, 8th in rebounding. 7th in minutes. 8th in double-doubles.
      Probably the fifth best PF in the west.
      Lee…

      not second in the east…I forgot to cut

    7. Frank O.

      Practice hard guys. Practice hard.
      I’m missing the games, but we need you all to practice hard and explode on the league in the second half.

    8. Dan Panorama

      I’m still smiling over that win vs. the Mavs, Heat game be damned. Psyched for the second half of the season, if only we can get Melo and Amare even close to their average production and range this team should be terrifying. Why of all times to fall off their career averages it has to be when there’s finally the talent around them to capitalize on it?

    9. rururuland2

      Dan Panorama:
      Why of all times to fall off their career averages it has to be when there’s finally the talent around them to capitalize on it?

      Like I’ve said before, this season reminds me a lot of ’08 for Melo. That year his numbers went way down as he dealt with elbow, wrist injuries and a broken hand. Through all of that Denver was trying to figure out how to build it’s offense with the unique skills of Billups and Melo (it was an iso-centric offense).

      He appeared to have broken out of the slump (the same kind he’s in now) with his 33 pt third quarter against Minnesota (and something like this is on the horizon)…

      But soon thereafter he suffered the sprained wrist and his numbers shot way down again. Right as he was beginning to recover, with big point games where he shot 13-19, 10-17, 10-20, 10-17, he broke his hand driving to the basket against Indiana (a game he was dominating at 8-12 with 9 assists in just 23 minutes)

      He sits out a month but comes back to drop 35 pts (on 10-17) on the Spurs two games in and 32 with 11 dimes with the game winner against OKC but twists his ankle (sounds familiar right) in the third quarter against New Jersey.

      He fights through it, his numbers suffer, but the team wins games with him as a the decoy for a couple of weeks.

      Denver goes on to win 15 of their finals 17 games to get the second seed.

      The offense starts to click in mid-March. Denver goes on to dominate New Orleans and Dallas in the first two rounds, with Melo playing better than anyone not named Lebron (and that’s on both ends of the floor). Denver eventually loses to the Lakers in a series in which they clearly outplayed LAL in four games. Denver was obviously the second best team in the West the next year until Karl was diagnosed with cancer, Nene, Kenyon Martin and Chris Andersen hobbled by injury.

    10. rururuland2

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01/gamelog/2009/

      As an aside, Melo was probably the MVP of the first third of the ’10 season….

      It’s only a matter of time before that guy comes back out again. And this situation is much different than those previous ones because there is much less burden on Melo to create his own shot.

      He’s never played in an offense where he can get so many clean looks in so many different ways. He’ll finally be able to utilize all of his versatility. People want to talk about his days with Andre Miller but don’t understand that those teams were arguably the worst 3pt shooting teams in the league, Miller was not a pick and roll pg who could create opportunities for Melo to attack from the wing against a rotating defender, nor had Melo developed a 3pt shot to that point. (Though he did in ’06, and finally had someone to help spread the floor in JR Smith, he was putting up 32ppg on over 50 % from field before the Iverson trade)

      In the Billups and Iverson offense it was all about him creating his own offense, the Billups offense was built entirely from him tilting the floor.

      So, my thesis is that the best has yet to come from Melo. He’s never been surrounded with this much offensive talent, he’s never been in a situation where he can get so many great looks, and all of that will free up energy for him on the defensive end– I look for him to be an impact player there in the second half.

      Melo just needs that one breakout game. I think the timing of how this plays out is perfect, however.

      Amar’e seems much more like a physical issue, both explosion and shooting mechanics.

      But if he gets going as well they absolutely can beat the HEat or Chicago.

    11. ephus

      If the Knicks:

      – Miss the playoffs, I will be really disappointed and would strongly consider that the whole thing should be blown up.

      -Get swept in the first round, I think that would be the end of the line for MDA.

      -Lose in a close and exciting first round series, I can live with it.

      -Make it to the second round but get swept, I will be content for the offseason.

      -Win more than one but less than four games in the second round, I will be crushed for weeks because my hopes will have risen so high.

      -Make it to the Conference Finals, I will be beyond giddy.

      -Make it to the Finals, beyond my wildest dreams.

      -Win the Finals, too amazing to even contemplate.

    12. Nick C.

      I had league pass to watch Melo when he came into the league (SU alum) IIRC the Miller teams were very run and gun for the time and place.

    13. rururuland2

      Nick C.:
      I had league pass to watch Melo when he came into the league (SU alum) IIRC the Miller teams were very run and gun for the time and place.

      They were.

    14. d-mar

      Just a random thought during the All Star break – would you all agree that basketball is the hardest sport to win a championship in? In football, you can have a mediocre season and catch fire in the playoffs, (Giants) same thing with baseball (Cardinals) but that never happens in the NBA. If you don’t have superior talent, the best you can do is win a couple of rounds, but you aren’t going to beat the heavy favorite for the title. I’m trying to remember if it’s ever happened in the NBA, maybe the Warriors in the 70’s?

    15. jon abbey

      you could make an argument that Dallas last year was less talented than the last three teams they beat (maybe even less talented than Portland in the first round), LAL, OKC, MIA.

    16. d-mar

      Yeah, not a bad example, except they did win 55 games during the season. Was thinking more about a team hovering around .500 and catching fire in the playoffs, sort of like the Knicks in ’99.

    17. jon abbey

      the 2004 Pistons also beat three teams in a row seeded higher than them.

      the thing about the Giants is that they were probably more talented than at least three of the four playoff teams they beat (maybe not GB), they just had guys hurt all year and finally got healthy at the end of the year. almost no one else in the NFL this year had both a good offense and defense, almost every top team was very lopsided towards one or the other, but the stretch run Giants had both.

    18. Z-man

      I would agree that picking an NBA champion at the beginning of the year is easier than picking the eventual Super Bowl or World Series winner, even with the lopsided spending in MLB.

    19. Count de Pennies

      The task of predicting an NBA champion is made much easier by the fact that the league, under Stern, has become so heavily tilted in favor of its superstars.

      Teams that do not possess one of the league sanctioned superstars (i.e. one who will almost certainly get the lion’s share of favorable calls in a short series) have virtually no shot of winning a title (the aforementioned ’04 Pistons being one of the rare exceptions)

      The number of superstars in the NBA is very small. Most teams don’t have one on the roster. Consequently, those teams can be eliminated from consideration when handicapping prospective champions.

      In today’s NBA, there’s almost no point in being a good team that lacks a “superstar.” That’s the limbo in which teams like Portland perpetually seem to dwell in. Good enough for a 4-8 seed and maybe even a first round series win but never quite good enough to win it all. In many ways, they’d be better off blowing shit up entirely, and sucking year after year in the hopes of one day landing the NBA’s next big thing in the lottery.

    20. daJudge

      I agree totally with Jon that the G-Men had a very balanced talented team that was on the mend. They didn’t just get hot, they got healthy. In addition, their last third of the year was not average by any means—it wasn’t just the playoffs that they made a run. I watched every game closely. Intelligent football fans, like my wife, who has studied football like a young Talmud student, and even less intelligent pundits, all knew that you didn’t wanna play the G-men in the later part of the season. Since there are so many less games in the NBA, your performance for 1/3 of the year is like 20 games in the NBA short season and like 27 games in the regular season. Why this is so cool is that our boys now have a full half season to rock. They can reach 3/4/5 seed if they play well. That is not unreasonable (maybe the 3). We are deep and we are healthy. We play D. We even have a quarterback now. Will he be elite? I don’t know, but I don’t think we need him to be. Competent, yes. My four questions are injuries, coaching, STAT and Melo. Sorry, but I do not have great confidence in Mike and I think STAT is either injured, has a chronic condition like arthritis or who knows what. Melo needs to be healthy and play his game, within the confines of a talented team. Hero ball has its place, in its place. Can’t predict injuries, but I’m glad we have depth. BTW, if we stay healthy, STAT gets back to a semblance of his former self, Melo finds his killer role and Mike assimilates this collection of talent, we can beat any team. Any team. That is not hype. Take it to the bank and take a look back at my G-Men if you don’t believe it.

    21. Count de Pennies

      @31

      Much as NBA teams today need a superstar to win, the recent rules changes in the NFL (which heavily favor the passing game) mean it’s no longer possible for teams to win a Super Bowl without an elite QB.

      For most of this year, not many took the Giants seriously because very few people considered Eli Manning an elite QB. Of course, if anyone had paid attention to the first 14 games, they would have noticed that without Eli, the Giants would likely have been 2-12 instead of 7-7. In at least five games, he singlehandedly carried the team on his shoulders. In other words, an elite QB.

    22. flossy

      Count de Pennies: In today’s NBA, there’s almost no point in being a good team that lacks a “superstar.” That’s the limbo in which teams like Portland perpetually seem to dwell in. Good enough for a 4-8 seed and maybe even a first round series win but never quite good enough to win it all. In many ways, they’d be better off blowing shit up entirely, and sucking year after year in the hopes of one day landing the NBA’s next big thing in the lottery.

      Or you can pick Greg Oden in the lottery.

    23. jon abbey

      Count de Pennies:
      @31

      Much as NBA teams today need a superstar to win, the recent rules changes in the NFL (which heavily favor the passing game) mean it’s no longer possible for teams to win a Super Bowl without an elite QB.

      disagree with this too, the Niners or Ravens easily could have won it all this year, both conference championship games were essentially coin flips.

    24. Shad0wF0x

      @34

      Was Brandon Roy’s retirement avoidable? As I remember it, he was heavily injured in a (meaningless) Game 3/4 of a 1st round series. It’s a horrible idea to try to force yourself to play if it’s any game that’s not Game 7 of the Finals. I’m just wondering if whether he played or not, if the knee would have taken him out by now anyway.

    25. 2FOR18

      Juany8: Or even Greg Oden and Brandon Roy…

      Or Sam Bowie. Portland has only itself to blame for not drafting Jordan and Durant. (though there was nothing wrong with the Roy pick – didn’t they draft and trade Foye for Roy?)

    26. Z-man

      Also, when you only play 5 at a time, when all players play both ways, when individual players can dominate any aspect of the game at any time during the game, and when scoring is fluid and always occurring, 1 superstar has a chance to impact a game at a far greater proportion to the other players than in perhaps any other team sport.

      If the league only had, say, between 10 and 20 teams, with current cap rules, there might be more parity and unpredictability. The league is probably about 30-40 deep in stars, and another 100 or so players deep in good to very good players. The rest of the league is basically filler. If every team had at least 1 top 20 players and 1 top 40 player, and then 5-6 other really good players, the quality of NBA basketball would be awesome. Even the teams that don’t win the championship would be more fun to watch. Sort of like the Knicks now compared to the Knicks during our 1-9 stretch earlier in the season, when TD, Walker and Bibby were getting significant minutes. Every team has guys like that, and some have them in their starting lineups. Even if the league contracted by 5 teams, I think it would be better for the league overall.

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