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Knicks Morning News (Monday, Dec 17 2012)

  • [New York Post] Ex-Knick returns to where rise to stardom began (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:00:56 -0500)
    There will be no Garden video tribute for Linsanity tonight. But it’s OK for the fans to give the struggling Jeremy Lin his own tribute â?? a nice ovation in his Garden return as a Houston Rocket.
    Raymond Felton, Lin’s replacement, and Steve Novak, one of Lin’s best…

  • [New York Post] Jeremy knocks â??terrible’ output in Houston (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:53:05 -0500)
    On the eve of his return to Madison Square Garden, Jeremy Lin didn’t mince words. The ex-Knick point guard said he has been “terrible” this season, not living up to his potential and can’t wait to get the Garden game over with.
    Lin’s rip job on himself…

  • [New York Post] Nothing Linsane about choice to let phenom go (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:36:04 -0500)
    Linsanity was never one of my favorite terms. Too silly, too commercial, too individual for such a team game as basketball.
    Yes, it is a good thing the Knicks have exchanged Linsanity for Winsanity, good for Jeremy Lin and good for the Knicks.
    Lin will return to the Garden tonight…

  • [New York Post] Melo expects to play (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:26:00 -0500)
    Carmelo Anthony is expected to play tonight against Jeremy Lin and the Rockets despite his sprained left ankle, but the Knicks did not upgrade his status from questionable, saying they had no updates.
    The Knicks did not hold a formal practice yesterday and were not made available to the media…

  • [New York Daily News] Lawrence: East leading Knicks hardly miss-Lin Jeremy (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 03:37:54 GMT)
    Whatever happens at the Garden on Monday night, when Jeremy Lin returns as a member of the Houston Rockets, it can’t come close to matching Linsanity. Then again, nothing could.

  • [New York Daily News] Homecom-Lin: Jeremy to hit Garden with Rockets (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:27:45 GMT)
    Madison Square Garden didn’t make Jeremy Lin a star but the famous building did serve as the stage where the undrafted Ivy League point guard experienced a breakout season and become the feel-good story of the NBA. “When I think about last year,â? Lin says, “the first thing I think about is playing in the Garden.â?

  • [New York Times] Raymond Felton, a Knick Who Didn’t Want to Go, Is Glad to Be Back (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:00:20 GMT)
    Raymond Felton, who returned this season to replace the popular point guard Jeremy Lin, has had a positive influence on the Knicks’ offense.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Lin Is Stymied by Calderon and Raptors (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 06:39:04 GMT)
    Jose Calderon had 18 points, 14 assists and 10 rebounds Sunday to lead the host Toronto Raptors to a 103-96 victory over Jeremy Lin and the Houston Rockets.

  • [New York Times] Lillard’s Last-Second 3 Lifts Blazers Over Hornets (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 05:01:02 GMT)
    Rookie Damian Lillard hit a 3-pointer with 0.3 seconds left and the Portland Trail Blazers handed New Orleans its sixth straight loss with a 95-94 victory over the Hornets on Sunday night.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Knicks Speak on Lin’s Return (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:26:27 GMT)
    Four Knicks players offer their thoughts on the Houston Rockets’ most famous former Knick.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: In Houston, Two Talented Guards, Only One Ball (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:00:49 GMT)
    The Rockets have gone through such an unusual series of events since the end of last season that Jeremy Lin’s return to New York on Monday is just one of many subplots.

  • [New York Times] McGee Scores 19, Nuggets Beat Kings 122-97 (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:57:11 GMT)
    Reserve JaVale McGee scored 19 points, Danilo Gallinari had 18 and the Denver Nuggets built a big lead in the first half and cruised past the Sacramento Kings 122-97 Sunday.

  • [New York Times] Bryant Helps Lakers Top 76ers 111-98 (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:53:55 GMT)
    Kobe Bryant scored 34 points, Metta World Peace added 19 points and a career-high 16 rebounds and the Los Angeles Lakers won consecutive games for the first time in nearly a month with a 111-98 victory over the Philadelphia 76ers on Sunday.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: 30 Seconds With Patrick Ewing (Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:08:13 GMT)
    Last month, former Knicks center Patrick Ewing received the inaugural Johnny Bach Award from Fordham University.

  • 22 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Monday, Dec 17 2012)

    1. Frank

      Looks like maybe the Lakers’ funeral was scheduled a little prematurely?

      Anyway, I hope the MSG crowd does the right thing and gives Jeremy Lin a LOOONG standing O tonight. Knick (and basketball) fans everywhere should really appreciate those days last year when one of the most remarkable stories I’ve ever seen just exploded onto the Garden court. I also hope the Dolan-owned MSG network does the right thing and actually shows that part of the intros.

    2. Frank

      Another thing about Jeremy – I wrote this after it became clear the Knicks wouldn’t match Houston’s offer, and I still think it’s true: the Knicks did the right thing in having basically media silence after they didn’t match him, because the reason they let him go is because they really didn’t think he was that good, mostly in fit but also in ability. And how do you say that in any sort of tactful way? What’s the saying again? “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt”?

      It probably was a close call within the organization, and then when Houston bumped up the poison pill, that clinched it.

      Whether it was the right move for the short term is really no question at all now – obviously it WAS the right move. Whether it was the right move for the long-term is not clear right now. But I agree with how they handled it.

      As for all the sniping, unsourced comments re: Lin being ungrateful, etc.? I put very little stock nowadays in these unsourced comments. For all we know it’s just reporters making up stuff.

    3. airchibundo507

      meh Holiday didn’t even play against the Lakers. Although MDA has been experimenting with Artest at the 4 and having some degree of success (if you consider success as not losing to scrub teams). Artest had 19 points, 16 boards yesterday.

    4. d-mar

      Frank:
      Looks like maybe the Lakers’ funeral was scheduled a little prematurely?

      Anyway, I hope the MSG crowd does the right thing and gives Jeremy Lin a LOOONG standing O tonight.Knick (and basketball) fans everywhere should really appreciate those days last year when one of the most remarkable stories I’ve ever seen just exploded onto the Garden court.I also hope the Dolan-owned MSG network does the right thing and actually shows that part of the intros.

      I’ll be at the game and will give him a well deserved ovation. He saved our season last year, and there should be no hard feelings about Lin chasing the big bucks just like every other pro athlete would have.

      (Of course, once the game starts, I hope Felton slices and dices him!)

    5. jon abbey

      yeah, I’ve been rooting hard against Lin all year and don’t especially like him, but I would also cheer him loudly at the intros tonight if I was there.

    6. Frank

      According to Berman’s twitter feed, Amare might be cleared for practice tomorrow. Will be great to have him back. As ephus said, Woody will figure it out.

    7. Frank O.

      You know, I sometimes wonder how Patrick interacts with other players. His interactions with the media always seems a bit abrupt and a bit tone deaf.
      I loved the guy as a player. He just comes across weird.
      Like his push at the end for commercial and movie chances. It felt beneath him to make a plea like that. Same way he goes about trying to get a coaching gig. Keep doing the work and stop sounding like your are continually dissed for not landing a job no one has seen fit to give you yet. There are plenty of assistants out there who want to coach. There are plenty of former head coaches out there doing assistant work right now.
      I just wish Patrick would handle this all a little better.

    8. Frank

      Great to see David Lee playing so well again – this week apparently in 4 games averaged 22.8 pts on 60.6% FG, 12.5 reb, 2.8 assists, 1 stl. 7 straight 20-10 games per Sam Amick. Still think it was probably the right move to basically trade him for Amare — I don’t necessarily think Melo pushes as hard to come to NYC with David Lee being the headliner, and in turn I don’t think Tyson and then the rest come after that.

    9. Juany8

      Frank:
      Great to see David Lee playing so well again – this week apparently in 4 games averaged 22.8 pts on 60.6% FG, 12.5 reb, 2.8 assists, 1 stl. 7 straight 20-10 games per Sam Amick. Still think it was probably the right move to basically trade him for Amare — I don’t necessarily think Melo pushes as hard to come to NYC with David Lee being the headliner, and in turn I don’t think Tyson and then the rest come after that.

      What’s more impressive is that he’s playing solid defense too, he’s nothing special but he’s no longer a layup line, and the Landry and Lee Frontcourt has actually held it’s own overall on the defensive end, which seems preposterous given those players’ careers. Golden State will be very interesting to watch if Bogut comes back healthy that’s for sure

    10. bockadoo

      Just wondering…has there ever been a team in league history freakin 18 and freakin 5 with 2 starters and a key reserve (Camby – you know he will be at some point) having barely played? This really could be historic – if everything goes right of course – but the pieces will be there. What are we lacking? Rebounding and interior defense – welcome to Camby and Stat. A reliable second scorer if our star is cold/out – here comes Stat. A perimeter defender to stymie opposing quick guards – ladies and gentleman, Iman Shumpert. We have everything else, and alot of it. Just feeling really good these days.

    11. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      bockadoo:
      Just wondering…has there ever been a team in league history freakin 18 and freakin 5 with 2 starters and a key reserve (Camby – you know he will be at some point) having barely played?This really could be historic – if everything goes right of course – but the pieces will be there.What are we lacking?Rebounding and interior defense – welcome to Camby and Stat.A reliable second scorer if our star is cold/out – here comes Stat.A perimeter defender to stymie opposing quick guards – ladies and gentleman,Iman Shumpert.We have everything else, and alot of it.Just feeling really good these days.

      What could be historic is that the two “starters” aren’t as good as the “bench” players who have taken their minutes. And when Amar’e and Shumpert come back and put up their woeful numbers, the media will talk about “gel” and “chemistry” instead of “eFG%” and “ORB%”.

    12. thenoblefacehumper

      d-mar: I’ll be at the game and will give him a well deserved ovation. He saved our season last year, and there should be no hard feelings about Lin chasing the big bucks just like every other pro athlete would have.

      I’ll be there too giving him a huge ovation. One thing I’ll add is that he didn’t exactly chase the big bucks. The Knicks didn’t make a lesser offer, they made no offer.

      (Of course, once the game starts, I hope Felton slices and dices him!)

    13. ruruland

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: What could be historic is that the two “starters” aren’t as good as the “bench” players who have taken their minutes. And when Amar’e and Shumpert come back and put up their woeful numbers, the media will talk about “gel” and “chemistry” instead of “eFG%” and “ORB%”.

      You don’t think Amar’e will easily surpass Brewer’s 4.8 orb % and .483 efg and .480 ts% %???

      Why don’t we do another one of those friendly bets on those 3 numbers for Amar’e, like we did for Melo and the Knicks as a team?

      Shumpert isn’t going to start over Kidd. Amar’e is a big upgrade over Brewer, as he’s currently playing. Though I can’t see either Shumpert or Amar’e taking Brewer completely out of the rotation.

    14. bockadoo

      @12 Amare has point guards now and will be more efficient. Shump will be a net plus because of his D. Even if they don’t start, Amare will probably play 25-30 minutes and Shump 15, and improve weak areas. Woody will figure it out and neither player will want to screw things up. Gotta stay positive and ride this tasty wave.

    15. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      bockadoo: You don’t think Amar’e will easily surpass Brewer’s 4.8 orb % and .483 efg and .480 ts% %???

      I think that Brewer and Amar’e play totally different positions, so I’d hope that Amar’e can get more than 2.1 ORB/48, which is what Brewer does. (That’s 1 more than the average SF.) Brewer also has 28 steals and only 8 TO. He’s a possession creator. You might fail to see value in a player who doesn’t “create shots,” but I see it.

    16. ruruland

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: I think that Brewer and Amar’e play totally different positions, so I’d hope that Amar’e can get more than 2.1 ORB/48, which is what Brewer does. (That’s 1 more than the average SF.) Brewer also has 28 steals and only 8 TO. He’s a possession creator. You might fail to see value in a player who doesn’t “create shots,” but I see it.

      What does that matter when Amar’e is replacing Brewer in the lineup?

      Makes no sense.

      There is plenty of value in a guy who gets steals and doesn’t turn the ball over and plays better than average defense. I loved the Brewer signing as we all did, and even though he hasn’t been his normal self in transition and defense, he’s a quality role player and should get better as his knee improves.

      He just can’t porivde nearly as much value as a healthy and not overweight Amar’e will provide in these circumstances.

    17. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      ruruland: He just can’t porivde nearly as much value as a healthy and not overweight Amar’e will provide in these circumstances.

      It’s not 2007 anymore.

    18. ruruland

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: It’s not 2007 anymore.

      2007?

      Guy had a .615 TS on 28 % usage and .181 ws/48 in 2010.

      Put up a .589 TS in 2010 playoffs while facing Camby/Aldridge, McDyess/Duncan, Gasol/Bynum.

      Last year he had a higher fg% at rim than in all but one of his previous five seasons.

      When you actually go back and watch Amar’e from 2010, arguably still the best offensive power forward in basketball, you realize that he had about as much explosion as he did when he finally lost the extra 20 pounds last season, and he’s still more explosive, agile and skilled than 90-95% of the bigs in the league.

      All the numbers from the last two seasons point to the fact that Amar’e is still Amar’e when there is either penetration or a pnr pg beside him, and when his usage isn’t above 30% (an indicator that he’s taking far too many isolation shots).

      All of the pieces are in place for Ama’re to have great year. The only question, as it is with Melo and Chandler, is how long can he stay healthy?

      If all three of those guys stay healthy all year, they’ll be the best froncourt in the NBA, easily.

    19. jon abbey

      and he was second team All-NBA in 2011, capped by one dominating playoff game against Boston in which Garnett had zero chance of stopping him, before he hurt his back in warmups before the next game. that was only about 18 months ago.

      and it’s hard to take your relative rankings seriously when you insisted for a couple of years that Landry Fields was better than Melo. still sticking by that nugget of insight? :)

    20. Brian Cronin

      Great to see David Lee playing so well again – this week apparently in 4 games averaged 22.8 pts on 60.6% FG, 12.5 reb, 2.8 assists, 1 stl. 7 straight 20-10 games per Sam Amick. Still think it was probably the right move to basically trade him for Amare — I don’t necessarily think Melo pushes as hard to come to NYC with David Lee being the headliner, and in turn I don’t think Tyson and then the rest come after that.

      You know I disagree on the Chandler thing, but the interesting thing to me is how little Melo seems to give a shit about Amar’e. I thought that they were really good friends and I agreed at the time that Amar’e being really good friends with Melo (and others) was a plus with Amar’e over Lee. But since Melo has gotten here, they’ve barely seemed like good friends at all. It is weird.

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