Juany8: Yea the only time Melo has really showed bad attitude with the Knicks was when D’Antoni basically sold him out in favor of Lin and totally neutered his scoring ability by standing him in the wing and making him watch a rookie point guard set turnover records. It’s incredible that some people got so upset when such a bad coach left, but then it wasn’t that long ago that some people were saying Fields was better than Shumpert.

Juany

ruruland: See, if we agree with that, then we should be able to have a healthy dialogue about this team and what it can be……..OKC absolutely shut down in the second half tonight in a possible playoff preview. Their big 3 attempted a total of 2 shots at the basket in the second half. if they didn’t get such an amazing whistle they’d have scored 65.

Can’t read anything into these games unless teams are fighting for something super-important. The compressed schedule has surely taken a toll on most teams, mentally as much as physically. Come the playoffs, the Thunder and Heat will be kicking ass, just as expected.

Owen:
Alright, cool, I am glad we can agree on something at the end of the day….

See, if we agree with that, then we should be able to have a healthy dialogue about this team and what it can be……..

OKC absolutely shut down in the second half tonight in a possible playoff preview. Their big 3 attempted a total of 2 shots at the basket in the second half. if they didn’t get such an amazing whistle they’d have scored 65.

Owen:
“Well, Orlando somehow scores 110 on a b2b against Philly and wins.”\

Basically, to what extent is player performance driven by who your teammates are.

If you can’t find it in the thread you can just do ctrl-f “of course it is.”

I didn’t respond previously because I felt that our conversation had “largely” devolved into semantics. I don’t argue with the idea that 70-80 percent of past performance explains current performance. But 30 percent of a player’s output is quite significant. Obviously that’s just an average. A lot of guys play within 5-10 percent of their norms on a year-year basis with similar teammates and role.

Other guys fall outside of that 20-30 percent when they find themselves in a new role or with new teammates — if they are utilized differently and defended differently based upon myriad factors. Some guys drop off because of injury, some guys dramatically improve after getting healthy.

So, yes, situation and teammates play a “large” role in many players success. But, no, I concede that Glen Davis is never going to turn into Dwight Howard. Danilo Gallinari is never going to turn into Lebron James. That’s essentially what that means.

It largely depends on the player and the circumstances. Sometimes you don’t know if a player in one situation can develop into a larger role in a new one with similar results.

Anderson may be developing. He may benefit from the fact that the floor is wide open for him…. But it is common sense that he gets a lot of open shots out of double teams. That doesn’t mean that he can’t play well in another situation that affords him those looks in another way, but that does not decrease the value of creating double-teams for the shooter. It’s really quite complex. It means you have to evaluate a players abilities and how they fit into the mutliple dynamics of the…

Owen:
“Well, Orlando somehow scores 110 on a b2b against Philly and wins.”\

Ryan Anderson’s 26 points on 17 shots, with 16 boards, was helpful. Somehow he managed to produced with Daniel Orton and Earl Clark playing center.

heh, against the same Sixers team that somehow managed to lose at home to the Nets the other night, the same Sixers team that seems to not care at all whether they free fall out of the playoffs or not because they’re just that sick of listening to Doug Collins.

BigBlueAL:
Any chance Heat pass Bulls to finish 1st??They play on Thursday and Heat currently 2 back in loss column.

That’s what I was referring to.

If Miami wins they’d tie head to head and would be one back.

Ryan Anderson’s 26 points on 17 shots, with 16 boards, was helpful. Somehow he managed to produced with Daniel Orton and Earl Clark playing center.

Ruruland, still waiting for your answer on my question.

Basically, to what extent is player performance driven by who your teammates are.

If you can’t find it in the thread you can just do ctrl-f “of course it is.”