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Knicks Morning News (Friday, Sep 14 2012)

  • [ESPN.com – New York Knicks] McGrady gets workout with Knicks (Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:18:47 EDT)
    The Knicks brought in veteran Tracy McGrady for a workout, a team source confirmed.
    The source said McGrady appeared to be in good health but it doesn’t appear that a signing is imminent.
    McGrady, who played 24 games for the Knicks in 2009-10, is among several players that the team is monitoring as training camp approaches.
    The Knicks currently have 19 players under contract, 13 of which are signed to guaranteed deals.
    NBA rules stipulate that teams can have a maximum of 15 players on the opening night roster.

  • [New York Post] McGrady might return to Knicks (Fri, 14 Sep 2012 03:59:59 -0500)
    Count J.R. Smith among those who think Tracy McGrady still has something left to give.
    “Definitely,â? Smith told The Post when asked if McGrady could help the Knicks after Yahoo! Sports reported Thursday McGrady has worked out for the team. “T-Mac has always been an elite player in this…

  • [New York Times] Tracy McGrady Works Out With Knicks (Fri, 14 Sep 2012 05:48:07 GMT)
    Tracy McGrady, a 33-year-old former All-Star, could be the team’s latest veteran addition of the off-season.

  • 20 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Friday, Sep 14 2012)

    1. d-mar

      Well, Chris Bosh for one thinks the Knicks are dangerous:

      “I just wanna say — the freakin’ Knicks, man. I think they’re going to be a good team,” Bosh said. “Nobody’s really talking about them, and I don’t like it. They’re flying under the radar right now. I think the Knicks are gonna be a very good team.”

      Days until first day of training camp: 17

      Days until first preseason game: 26

      Days until opening night in Brooklyn: 47

      Not that far away, boys, can’t wait!

    2. er

      the heat arent dumb…….the 03 class knows the potential of melo but they are really worried about a cohesive unit

      d-mar:
      Well, Chris Bosh for one thinks the Knicks are dangerous:

      “I just wanna say — the freakin’ Knicks, man. I think they’re going to be a good team,” Bosh said. “Nobody’s really talking about them, and I don’t like it. They’re flying under the radar right now. I think the Knicks are gonna be a very good team.”

      Days until first day of training camp: 17

      Days until first preseason game: 26

      Days until opening night in Brooklyn: 47

      Not that far away, boys, can’t wait!

    3. Frank

      Anyone think McGrady is big enough to play backup 4? If he did, other than LBJ he would probably be the best passing 4 in the league.

      I’m not opposed at all to signing him up. He’ll make zero difference in a playoff setting (can you imagine him trying to keep up with the thoroughbreds on Miami or OKC?) but having more guys who are versatile can’t hurt. And I think at this point in his career, he won’t demand too many minutes. Just wants to stay in the league.

    4. Brian Cronin

      I agree that T-Mac is more likely to be adaptable to back-up minutes than Kenyon Martin, as Martin could legitimately play 15-20 minutes for a contender still. I don’t think T-Mac is big enough for a back-up 4, though. But yeah, he’s so talented that if T-Mac is willing to earn any minutes he gets, then I’d be thrilled to have him on the Knicks.

    5. massive

      In a small-ball unit where T-Mac is at the 4 and Stat is at the 5, I don’t see why T-Mac can’t play the stretch 4 position. That said, I don’t know how much small-ball we’ll play with Chandler and Camby on the team.

    6. knicknyk

      I call BS on Bosh’s words. This was the same Heat team that was laughing at the Knicks during the PO’s. You think they respect us now? I think he was being insincere. I hope Amare manhandles him when next we play.

    7. thenamestsam

      knicknyk:
      I call BS on Bosh’s words. This was the same Heat team that was laughing at the Knicks during the PO’s. You think they respect us now? I think he was being insincere. I hope Amare manhandles him when next we play.

      I think there are reasons for a change in attitude that would explain the comments besides insincerity. Regardless of whether signing old guys is a smart move, players clearly have a ton of respect for veterans. A guy like Jason Kidd is still very respected by other players even if most analysts outside the game think he has lost a step or 5. The Knicks have added a lot of veteran presence with Kidd, Camby, Thomas, Felton etc., so I’m not surprised that we’d be viewed as a threat more by other players than by analysts or people outside the game.

      massive: In a small-ball unit where T-Mac is at the 4 and Stat is at the 5, I don’t see why T-Mac can’t play the stretch 4 position. That said, I don’t know how much small-ball we’ll play with Chandler and Camby on the team.

      Can you seriously imagine this group being even marginally competitive defensively or on the glass? If you want to play a 4-5 combo like that you have to be committed to going up and down like the Nash Suns and running the other team off the floor. I really don’t think a Woodson coached team is going to play that way.

    8. Brian Cronin

      Yeah, I just don’t see how you’d play T-Mac at the 4. If you want to go small, Melo will be the 4, right? T-Mac can play the two and three, though, so he’d be a really useful piece (if he was okay with being a part-time player, of course).

    9. JK47

      Tracy McGrady would fit right in with this team, considering he’s way past his prime and is a guard who can’t shoot the rock to save his life.

    10. ruruland

      knicknyk:
      I call BS on Bosh’s words. This was the same Heat team that was laughing at the Knicks during the PO’s. You think they respect us now? I think he was being insincere.

      Nah..

    11. ruruland

      Brian Cronin:
      Yeah, I just don’t see how you’d play T-Mac at the 4. If you want to go small, Melo will be the 4, right? T-Mac can play the two and three, though, so he’d be a really useful piece (if he was okay with being a part-time player, of course).

      McGrady or Martin would be a great get. People think Mac can’t shoot. 34 percent from 3 but like all players shoots spot ups better, always been predominatelty self shot creator though.. Guy is a quality shooter, quality playmaker and passable defensively with his length.

      Kidd,Smith, TMac,Melo,Amare would be another devastating lineup among a ton of quality permutations on a legitimately 12 deep squad. Reminds me of some of those high quality veteran laden Blazers teams.

    12. Brian Cronin

      Yeah, while he might not be a sniper or whatever, McGrady is good shooter. And if he is only a bench guy for you, he can really cause some matchup problems for other teams.

    13. Z-man

      Brian Cronin: Yeah, while he might not be a sniper or whatever, McGrady is good shooter. And if he is only a bench guy for you, he can really cause some matchup problems for other teams.

      He still has to guard somebody…

    14. massive

      T-Mac shot 45% from three last year. He only took 33, so that number is likely to drop. You have to like your chances of T-Mac wide open for three, though.

    15. Brian Cronin

      He still has to guard somebody…

      Ha! True. Hey, I’m not arguing that the guy play 25 minutes or anything like that, just that he could be a pretty impressive change-of-pace guy at the #2 spot, especially as a back-up. He’s still a guy that other teams react to when he is on the court. That, in and of itself, carries some value. Enough to give the guy the vet minimum.

      Unless, of course, we don’t think he’ll accept earning playing time. If he is going to be a jerk (which he was at times last year for Atlanta) then eff ‘em. He’s not worth the hassle.

    16. massive

      It’s interesting that nobody brought up Ronnie Brewer as one of the most likeable Knicks. He’s basically Landry Fields + Iman Shumpert with a worse shot. I’m certainly looking forward to him being in a Knicks jersey.

    17. Z-man

      Brian Cronin: Ha! True. Hey, I’m not arguing that the guy play 25 minutes or anything like that, just that he could be a pretty impressive change-of-pace guy at the #2 spot, especially as a back-up. He’s still a guy that other teams react to when he is on the court. That, in and of itself, carries some value. Enough to give the guy the vet minimum.Unless, of course, we don’t think he’ll accept earning playing time. If he is going to be a jerk (which he was at times last year for Atlanta) then eff ‘em. He’s not worth the hassle.

      The thing is, right now the roster seems very well balanced in terms of PT/rotation. If T-Mac goes into primadonna mode, that could upset things. Of course, at the vet’s minimum, we could just cut him. I guess I’m ambivalent; he is good insurance in case White flops.

    18. diehardknickerbocker

      Frank:
      Anyone think McGrady is big enough to play backup 4? If he did, other than LBJ he would probably be the best passing 4 in the league.

      I’m not opposed at all to signing him up. He’ll make zero difference in a playoff setting (can you imagine him trying to keep up with the thoroughbreds on Miami or OKC?) but having more guys who are versatile can’t hurt. And I think at this point in his career, he won’t demand too many minutes. Just wants to stay in the league.
      why not get josh howard then he’s better at the 3 n 4

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