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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-morning-news-friday-sep-07-2012/#comment-403619</link>
		<dc:creator>ruruland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Z-man: 
I&#039;ve posted this before and I&#039;ll post it again. Raymond Felton is one of the better passers in the league. 

Consider most of these numbers are not adjusted for pace. Most of the teams he&#039;s led have played slow. Most of the players who rank ahead of him have played in faster offenses. 

Assists per 48 LEAGUE rank compared to Andre Miller (who is rightfully considered the most underrated passer in the NBA)

2011: Felton 13th (9.8 ap48)   Miller 5th (11.7 ap48)
2010: Felton 8th  (11.0 ap48)  Miller 11th (10.3)
2009: Felton 23rd (8.1 ap48)   Miller 16th (8.5) 
2008: Felton 20th (8.6 ap48)   Miller 19th (8.6)
2007: Felton 9th   (9.4 ap48)   Miller 14th (9.0)
2006: Felton 13th (9.2 ap48)   Miller 9th (10.1)

Here&#039;s the interesting part. They both do it in completely different ways. Felton is a traditional penetrate and kick, pick and roll point guard. Miller is an incredible quarterback who reads the defense at every point of the floor. 

Now, I think the post-Lin Knicks have constructed their backcourt brilliantly. 

Kidd is not a penetrate and kick point guard. He&#039;s now an Andre Miller kind of passer, leading the break from behind so to speak. Just two years ago Kidd was 6th in the NBA in ap48, and fifth in 2010 -- he&#039;s a brilliant passer in all the ways Felton is not. 

You can put both guys on the floor at the same time -- comfortably on defense -- and have the best passing combination in the NBA.

A BETTER version of Barrea/Kidd. 

Kidd provides better than average spot-up shooting in the half-court and is brilliant at putting teammates in position to score by anticipating defensive breakdowns. 

Dual pg lineups that will be incredibly efficient offensively:

Kidd/Felton/JR/Melo/Amar&#039;e
Kidd/Felton/Melo/Amar&#039;e/Chandler
Kidd/Felton/Novak/JR/Chandler
Kidd/Felton/Novak/Melo/Amar&#039;e

Those are all elite offensive units. You can sprinkle one pf Shumpert/Brewer/Camby into each of those lineups if you want more balance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z-man:<br />
I&#8217;ve posted this before and I&#8217;ll post it again. Raymond Felton is one of the better passers in the league. </p>
<p>Consider most of these numbers are not adjusted for pace. Most of the teams he&#8217;s led have played slow. Most of the players who rank ahead of him have played in faster offenses. </p>
<p>Assists per 48 LEAGUE rank compared to Andre Miller (who is rightfully considered the most underrated passer in the NBA)</p>
<p>2011: Felton 13th (9.8 ap48)   Miller 5th (11.7 ap48)<br />
2010: Felton 8th  (11.0 ap48)  Miller 11th (10.3)<br />
2009: Felton 23rd (8.1 ap48)   Miller 16th (8.5)<br />
2008: Felton 20th (8.6 ap48)   Miller 19th (8.6)<br />
2007: Felton 9th   (9.4 ap48)   Miller 14th (9.0)<br />
2006: Felton 13th (9.2 ap48)   Miller 9th (10.1)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the interesting part. They both do it in completely different ways. Felton is a traditional penetrate and kick, pick and roll point guard. Miller is an incredible quarterback who reads the defense at every point of the floor. </p>
<p>Now, I think the post-Lin Knicks have constructed their backcourt brilliantly. </p>
<p>Kidd is not a penetrate and kick point guard. He&#8217;s now an Andre Miller kind of passer, leading the break from behind so to speak. Just two years ago Kidd was 6th in the NBA in ap48, and fifth in 2010 &#8212; he&#8217;s a brilliant passer in all the ways Felton is not. </p>
<p>You can put both guys on the floor at the same time &#8212; comfortably on defense &#8212; and have the best passing combination in the NBA.</p>
<p>A BETTER version of Barrea/Kidd. </p>
<p>Kidd provides better than average spot-up shooting in the half-court and is brilliant at putting teammates in position to score by anticipating defensive breakdowns. </p>
<p>Dual pg lineups that will be incredibly efficient offensively:</p>
<p>Kidd/Felton/JR/Melo/Amar&#8217;e<br />
Kidd/Felton/Melo/Amar&#8217;e/Chandler<br />
Kidd/Felton/Novak/JR/Chandler<br />
Kidd/Felton/Novak/Melo/Amar&#8217;e</p>
<p>Those are all elite offensive units. You can sprinkle one pf Shumpert/Brewer/Camby into each of those lineups if you want more balance.</p>
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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruruland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-403603&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-403603&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sidestep&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
According to HoopData, among shooting guards who played 25mpg last season, JR Smith was the league leader in the percentage of unassisted (77.5%) long two pointers. (Long two pointer defined as 16-23 feet). Joe Johnson comes in second place.


JR Smith
4.0 attempts per 40min, 41.0 FG%, 77.5% unassisted.


Joe Johnson
4.9 attempts per 40min, 42.0 FG%, 76.6% unassisted.


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Yep bad shots. But making those kind of shots at 41% takes special talent. That&#039;s a very difficult shot for a reason. You just want to take the vast majority of them out of your offense if you can-- IF YOU CAN-- and the Knicks can.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-403603" rel="nofollow">sidestep</a></strong>:<br />
According to HoopData, among shooting guards who played 25mpg last season, JR Smith was the league leader in the percentage of unassisted (77.5%) long two pointers. (Long two pointer defined as 16-23 feet). Joe Johnson comes in second place.</p>
<p>JR Smith<br />
4.0 attempts per 40min, 41.0 FG%, 77.5% unassisted.</p>
<p>Joe Johnson<br />
4.9 attempts per 40min, 42.0 FG%, 76.6% unassisted.</p>
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<p>Yep bad shots. But making those kind of shots at 41% takes special talent. That&#8217;s a very difficult shot for a reason. You just want to take the vast majority of them out of your offense if you can&#8211; IF YOU CAN&#8211; and the Knicks can.</p>
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		<title>By: diehardknickerbocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>diehardknickerbocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-403591&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
		Knicks
	
BasketballBoards.Net
Buckets Over Broadway
Knicks City
Knicks Now
KnicksFan
KnicksOnline.com&lt;/blockquote&gt;
u don&#039;t even like yourself]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-403591" rel="nofollow">The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles</a></strong>:<br />
		Knicks</p>
<p>BasketballBoards.Net<br />
Buckets Over Broadway<br />
Knicks City<br />
Knicks Now<br />
KnicksFan<br />
KnicksOnline.com</p></blockquote>
<p>u don&#8217;t even like yourself</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 14:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing, I knew JR was athletic, but he made some plays last year that were off the charts freakish. Yes, he is definitely more suited to a 6th man role, but I am interested to see how he adapts to a starting role if Woodson uses him that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing, I knew JR was athletic, but he made some plays last year that were off the charts freakish. Yes, he is definitely more suited to a 6th man role, but I am interested to see how he adapts to a starting role if Woodson uses him that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-morning-news-friday-sep-07-2012/#comment-403607</link>
		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 13:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I truly believe that much of JR&#039;s issues (and Melo&#039;s and Amare&#039;s, for that matter) derived from a complete lack of competent leadership and play at the PG position. JR is not the ideal starting 2, but for $2.8 mill, he is as good as we were gonna get. His D was a pleasant surprise, he seems durable (critical now that Shump and Brewer both have knee issues) and we have 3 options at PG that all can orchestrate an offense much better than TD, Baron, Bibby, or Shump, all of whom played significant minutes at PG. The more decision-making taken out of JR&#039;s hands, the better.

Except for when Lin played well, the Knicks were for the most part a team that played like a chicken with it&#039;s head cut off. Raymond Felton is not John Stocton, but he had double-figure assists 27 times in his 54 games with the Knicks in 2010-11. Kidd and Prigioni are quintessential pass-first PGs with enormously high b-ball IQ&#039;s. They will have lots of time in preseason to figure out how to utilize JR&#039;s talents and minimize his faults.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly believe that much of JR&#8217;s issues (and Melo&#8217;s and Amare&#8217;s, for that matter) derived from a complete lack of competent leadership and play at the PG position. JR is not the ideal starting 2, but for $2.8 mill, he is as good as we were gonna get. His D was a pleasant surprise, he seems durable (critical now that Shump and Brewer both have knee issues) and we have 3 options at PG that all can orchestrate an offense much better than TD, Baron, Bibby, or Shump, all of whom played significant minutes at PG. The more decision-making taken out of JR&#8217;s hands, the better.</p>
<p>Except for when Lin played well, the Knicks were for the most part a team that played like a chicken with it&#8217;s head cut off. Raymond Felton is not John Stocton, but he had double-figure assists 27 times in his 54 games with the Knicks in 2010-11. Kidd and Prigioni are quintessential pass-first PGs with enormously high b-ball IQ&#8217;s. They will have lots of time in preseason to figure out how to utilize JR&#8217;s talents and minimize his faults.</p>
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		<title>By: sidestep</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidestep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We could see he was chucking a lot of unassisted long twos, but I was surprised to see that he&#039;s among the most chuckery of shooting guards.

If the definition of &#039;creating your own shot&#039; is simply chucking a fadeaway long 2, well, it doesn&#039;t take any special skill to do this if you are a starter-level offensive player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could see he was chucking a lot of unassisted long twos, but I was surprised to see that he&#8217;s among the most chuckery of shooting guards.</p>
<p>If the definition of &#8216;creating your own shot&#8217; is simply chucking a fadeaway long 2, well, it doesn&#8217;t take any special skill to do this if you are a starter-level offensive player.</p>
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		<title>By: sidestep</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidestep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to HoopData, among shooting guards who played 25mpg last season, JR Smith was the league leader in the percentage of unassisted (77.5%) long two pointers. (Long two pointer defined as 16-23 feet). Joe Johnson comes in second place.

JR Smith
4.0 attempts per 40min, 41.0 FG%, 77.5% unassisted.

Joe Johnson
4.9 attempts per 40min, 42.0 FG%, 76.6% unassisted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to HoopData, among shooting guards who played 25mpg last season, JR Smith was the league leader in the percentage of unassisted (77.5%) long two pointers. (Long two pointer defined as 16-23 feet). Joe Johnson comes in second place.</p>
<p>JR Smith<br />
4.0 attempts per 40min, 41.0 FG%, 77.5% unassisted.</p>
<p>Joe Johnson<br />
4.9 attempts per 40min, 42.0 FG%, 76.6% unassisted.</p>
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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruruland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look, some of it is poor judgment but much of it is that he&#039;s being burdened to create. 

It&#039;s not that he&#039;s too stupid to realize that he&#039;s more efficient off the ball, it&#039;s that he&#039;s often playing without teammates who can put him in that position. 

And it should be understood that coaches have put him in playmaking situations off the bench because he&#039;s shown tremendous promise -- at times he&#039;s a great pnr passer, he&#039;s obviously an incredible finisher, and he&#039;s got better than average handle for a two guard. Denver experimented with JR as the pg in the half-court much of the 2009 season after the series he had against LA. But he doesn&#039;t have a great first step and too much of his movement is lateral. He doesn&#039;t get to the basket that well. 

Miami is a perfect example of a situation that dictated JR make plays. I think you realize that without a pick and roll threat or a dribble penetration threat, JR became the de-facto initiator much of the time.   

He had a hard time getting a step on his defender last year compared to previous seasons, and did rely too much on very difficult step-backs. 

All of that being said, it&#039;s not as though his ability to make difficult shots isn&#039;t an asset. It&#039;s just not one that a healthy offense should need very often. And if the team is healthy next year, it won&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, some of it is poor judgment but much of it is that he&#8217;s being burdened to create. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that he&#8217;s too stupid to realize that he&#8217;s more efficient off the ball, it&#8217;s that he&#8217;s often playing without teammates who can put him in that position. </p>
<p>And it should be understood that coaches have put him in playmaking situations off the bench because he&#8217;s shown tremendous promise &#8212; at times he&#8217;s a great pnr passer, he&#8217;s obviously an incredible finisher, and he&#8217;s got better than average handle for a two guard. Denver experimented with JR as the pg in the half-court much of the 2009 season after the series he had against LA. But he doesn&#8217;t have a great first step and too much of his movement is lateral. He doesn&#8217;t get to the basket that well. </p>
<p>Miami is a perfect example of a situation that dictated JR make plays. I think you realize that without a pick and roll threat or a dribble penetration threat, JR became the de-facto initiator much of the time.   </p>
<p>He had a hard time getting a step on his defender last year compared to previous seasons, and did rely too much on very difficult step-backs. </p>
<p>All of that being said, it&#8217;s not as though his ability to make difficult shots isn&#8217;t an asset. It&#8217;s just not one that a healthy offense should need very often. And if the team is healthy next year, it won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Will the Thrill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will the Thrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JR&#039;s problem isn&#039;t that he can&#039;t create his own offense (he&#039;s not good at it) but that he thinks he can create his own offense. There are very few players in the NBA who are good at creating offense, and JR is definitely not one of them, and we got a whiff of that in the playoffs last year.  If he could get it through his head that the role of hitting open 3&#039;s and converting the occasional drive would benefit the team more than him dribbling around trying to make a play for himself (85% of the time this ends with a step-back long 2), he would be a perfect fit for this team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR&#8217;s problem isn&#8217;t that he can&#8217;t create his own offense (he&#8217;s not good at it) but that he thinks he can create his own offense. There are very few players in the NBA who are good at creating offense, and JR is definitely not one of them, and we got a whiff of that in the playoffs last year.  If he could get it through his head that the role of hitting open 3&#8242;s and converting the occasional drive would benefit the team more than him dribbling around trying to make a play for himself (85% of the time this ends with a step-back long 2), he would be a perfect fit for this team.</p>
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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruruland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 01:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-403595&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-403595&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;daJudge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
ruru and others interested—the stats bear out the notion that JR can be a really fine complimentary player as a starter.Relied upon to be the man may in fact bring out the worst flaws in his game/head.Playing with those defined as stars may actually increase his ability to play a more disciplined game.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is correct. JR&#039;s always played his best when surrounded by another dominant offensive player. Coaches, understandably, are intrigued by all of his talent. But by trying to bring out other parts of his game, they end up minimizing his tremendous strengths.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-403595" rel="nofollow">daJudge</a></strong>:<br />
ruru and others interested—the stats bear out the notion that JR can be a really fine complimentary player as a starter.Relied upon to be the man may in fact bring out the worst flaws in his game/head.Playing with those defined as stars may actually increase his ability to play a more disciplined game.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This is correct. JR&#8217;s always played his best when surrounded by another dominant offensive player. Coaches, understandably, are intrigued by all of his talent. But by trying to bring out other parts of his game, they end up minimizing his tremendous strengths.</p>
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