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Knicks Morning News (Friday, Sep 07 2012)

  • [New York Times] Former A.B.A. Owners Ozzie and Daniel Silna Earn Millions From N.B.A. (Fri, 07 Sep 2012 06:19:06 GMT)
    Thanks to a provision in the merger of the N.B.A. and the A.B.A. in 1976, former A.B.A. team owners Ozzie and Daniel Silna have earned $255 million from the N.B.A.’s television contracts.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Knicks Play Up Their ‘New’ Uniforms (Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:43:15 GMT)
    Faced with meaningful competition for the spotlight with the rebranded Nets set to open in Brooklyn, the Knicks unveiled uniforms that featured no striking changes.

  • [New York Times] Miller, Nelson Among Hoops Hall Inductees (Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:04:50 GMT)
    She was the first person he called after he got the call. And Cheryl Miller will be on stage to present her brother, Reggie, when he is inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Knicks will dress, not play like champs this season (Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:42:15 GMT)
    A new uniform for the Knicks raises the same old question that has dogged the franchise for 39 years and counting: Are the new threads still champagne retardant?

  • 22 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Friday, Sep 07 2012)

    1. er

      so brewer is supposedly out for 6 weeks with a meniscus tear….smmfh, shit was going too smoothly for the knicks i knew there would be something

      Life of a knick fan smh

    2. ruruland

      Junior was probably going to start anyway.

      The last time he was named full-time starter: 22 games, 29.3 mpg, 16.7 ppg, .617 TS%

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01/gamelog/2007/

      1) Starting allowed him to play more off the ball and in catch-and-shoot where he is one of the best in basketball (Melo and Miller) 2) His proportion of off-dribble shots was dramatically decreased by starting, meaning far fewer forced shots, and more efficient driving and playmaking opportunities 3) He’s never had a head coach who’s trusted him like Mike Woodson, and who is likely to give JR set minutes and consistent rotation.

      Check out JR’s efficiency compared with the percentage of assisted baskets

      2011: TS .508 Assisted basket percentage: 52%
      2010: TS .550 ABP 51%
      2009: TS .515 ABP 52%
      2008: TS .576 ABP 53%
      2007: TS .603 ABP 66%
      2006: TS .585 ABP 77%

      In a role where JR can predominately space the floor, shoot and attack on the weakside as opposed to initiate on the strongside, he’s a great complementary role player when you combine his defensive energy and versatility of skills on offense that can be used at more opportune times.

      Brewer and Shumpert are still going to get a lot minutes, but JR has a chance to be the best of all three, which while not great, is pretty good.

    3. thenamestsam

      Supposedly Brewer should be 100% by day 1, so no biggie. J.R.’s efficiency would certainly go up with the first unit, but it leaves the second unit utterly devoid of offense, which would mean Woodson has to be careful with his substitution pattern so those guys don’t end up on the floor at the same time.

      I think the way Woodson handles the rotation will be very important this year. We have a number of players who are very good on one end of the floor but not the other, and making sure we maintain good balance in our lineups is going to require a smart touch.

    4. daJudge

      ruru and others interested—the stats bear out the notion that JR can be a really fine complimentary player as a starter. Relied upon to be the man may in fact bring out the worst flaws in his game/head. Playing with those defined as stars may actually increase his ability to play a more disciplined game. Let’s not forget that his defense is also well above average. I’m OK with this scenario and believe that Stat’s resurgence with Felton will define 2012. BTW, Melo is not the problem.

      ruruland:
      Junior was probably going to start anyway.

      The last time he was named full-time starter: 22 games, 29.3 mpg, 16.7 ppg, .617 TS%

      http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjr01/gamelog/2007/

      1) Starting allowed him to play more off the ball and in catch-and-shoot where he is one of the best in basketball (Melo and Miller) 2) His proportion of off-dribble shots was dramatically decreased by starting, meaning far fewer forced shots, and more efficient driving and playmaking opportunities 3) He’s never had a head coach who’s trusted him like Mike Woodson, and who is likely to give JR set minutes and consistent rotation.

      Check out JR’s efficiency compared with the percentage of assisted baskets

      2011: TS .508Assisted basket percentage: 52%
      2010: TS .550ABP 51%
      2009: TS .515ABP 52%
      2008: TS .576ABP 53%
      2007: TS .603ABP 66%
      2006: TS .585ABP 77%

      In a role where JR can predominately space the floor, shoot and attack on the weakside as opposed to initiate on the strongside, he’s a great complementary role player when you combine his defensive energy and versatility of skills on offense that can be used at more opportune times.

      Brewer and Shumpert are still going to get a lot minutes, but JR has a chance to be the best of all three,…

    5. ruruland

      thenamestsam:
      Supposedly Brewer should be 100% by day 1, so no biggie. J.R.’s efficiency would certainly go up with the first unit, but it leaves the second unit utterly devoid of offense, which would mean Woodson has to be careful with his substitution pattern so those guys don’t end up on the floor at the same time.

      I think the way Woodson handles the rotation will be very important this year. We have a number of players who are very good on one end of the floor but not the other, and making sure we maintain good balance in our lineups is going to require a smart touch.

      One of Amar’e or Melo will always be on the floor (20-24 shared).

      One of Novak, JR or Kidd will always be on the floor.

      So long as you stagger your substitutions to reflect those realities, the offense should do well.

      It will always have a focal point. It will always have at least one great shooter (sometimes 2-3).

      The Knicks don’t quite have the depth of shooting other clubs have, but they’ll be giving 48-54 minutes to arguably the best spot-up shooting combination in the NBA. You could be looking at the best per minute 3 pt shooting combination in NBA history.

      Even if Melo, Felton, Kidd and Shumpert all combine to shoot 33-35%, the Knicks will still be one of the better 3pt shooting teams in the NBA because of those aforementioned bombers.

    6. ruruland

      thenamestsam:
      Supposedly Brewer should be 100% by day 1, so no biggie. J.R.’s efficiency would certainly go up with the first unit, but it leaves the second unit utterly devoid of offense, which would mean Woodson has to be careful with his substitution pattern so those guys don’t end up on the floor at the same time.

      I think the way Woodson handles the rotation will be very important this year. We have a number of players who are very good on one end of the floor but not the other, and making sure we maintain good balance in our lineups is going to require a smart touch.

      I agree on using depth. To me, I always liked Nelson’s approach of making other teams adjust to you. Take away the opponents strength by forcing them to match your strengths.

      But, that’s just one way to use the depth. There are plenty of others. It will likely come down to how well guys play together (I know TCHJ and his ilk don’t believe players play differently depending on their teammates)… so the extra 2-3 weeks is going to be big in figuring that out.

    7. ruruland

      daJudge:
      ruru and others interested—the stats bear out the notion that JR can be a really fine complimentary player as a starter.Relied upon to be the man may in fact bring out the worst flaws in his game/head.Playing with those defined as stars may actually increase his ability to play a more disciplined game.

      This is correct. JR’s always played his best when surrounded by another dominant offensive player. Coaches, understandably, are intrigued by all of his talent. But by trying to bring out other parts of his game, they end up minimizing his tremendous strengths.

    8. Will the Thrill

      JR’s problem isn’t that he can’t create his own offense (he’s not good at it) but that he thinks he can create his own offense. There are very few players in the NBA who are good at creating offense, and JR is definitely not one of them, and we got a whiff of that in the playoffs last year. If he could get it through his head that the role of hitting open 3′s and converting the occasional drive would benefit the team more than him dribbling around trying to make a play for himself (85% of the time this ends with a step-back long 2), he would be a perfect fit for this team.

    9. ruruland

      Look, some of it is poor judgment but much of it is that he’s being burdened to create.

      It’s not that he’s too stupid to realize that he’s more efficient off the ball, it’s that he’s often playing without teammates who can put him in that position.

      And it should be understood that coaches have put him in playmaking situations off the bench because he’s shown tremendous promise — at times he’s a great pnr passer, he’s obviously an incredible finisher, and he’s got better than average handle for a two guard. Denver experimented with JR as the pg in the half-court much of the 2009 season after the series he had against LA. But he doesn’t have a great first step and too much of his movement is lateral. He doesn’t get to the basket that well.

      Miami is a perfect example of a situation that dictated JR make plays. I think you realize that without a pick and roll threat or a dribble penetration threat, JR became the de-facto initiator much of the time.

      He had a hard time getting a step on his defender last year compared to previous seasons, and did rely too much on very difficult step-backs.

      All of that being said, it’s not as though his ability to make difficult shots isn’t an asset. It’s just not one that a healthy offense should need very often. And if the team is healthy next year, it won’t.

    10. sidestep

      According to HoopData, among shooting guards who played 25mpg last season, JR Smith was the league leader in the percentage of unassisted (77.5%) long two pointers. (Long two pointer defined as 16-23 feet). Joe Johnson comes in second place.

      JR Smith
      4.0 attempts per 40min, 41.0 FG%, 77.5% unassisted.

      Joe Johnson
      4.9 attempts per 40min, 42.0 FG%, 76.6% unassisted.

    11. sidestep

      We could see he was chucking a lot of unassisted long twos, but I was surprised to see that he’s among the most chuckery of shooting guards.

      If the definition of ‘creating your own shot’ is simply chucking a fadeaway long 2, well, it doesn’t take any special skill to do this if you are a starter-level offensive player.

    12. Z-man

      I truly believe that much of JR’s issues (and Melo’s and Amare’s, for that matter) derived from a complete lack of competent leadership and play at the PG position. JR is not the ideal starting 2, but for $2.8 mill, he is as good as we were gonna get. His D was a pleasant surprise, he seems durable (critical now that Shump and Brewer both have knee issues) and we have 3 options at PG that all can orchestrate an offense much better than TD, Baron, Bibby, or Shump, all of whom played significant minutes at PG. The more decision-making taken out of JR’s hands, the better.

      Except for when Lin played well, the Knicks were for the most part a team that played like a chicken with it’s head cut off. Raymond Felton is not John Stocton, but he had double-figure assists 27 times in his 54 games with the Knicks in 2010-11. Kidd and Prigioni are quintessential pass-first PGs with enormously high b-ball IQ’s. They will have lots of time in preseason to figure out how to utilize JR’s talents and minimize his faults.

    13. Z-man

      Another thing, I knew JR was athletic, but he made some plays last year that were off the charts freakish. Yes, he is definitely more suited to a 6th man role, but I am interested to see how he adapts to a starting role if Woodson uses him that way.

    14. ruruland

      sidestep:
      According to HoopData, among shooting guards who played 25mpg last season, JR Smith was the league leader in the percentage of unassisted (77.5%) long two pointers. (Long two pointer defined as 16-23 feet). Joe Johnson comes in second place.

      JR Smith
      4.0 attempts per 40min, 41.0 FG%, 77.5% unassisted.

      Joe Johnson
      4.9 attempts per 40min, 42.0 FG%, 76.6% unassisted.

      Yep bad shots. But making those kind of shots at 41% takes special talent. That’s a very difficult shot for a reason. You just want to take the vast majority of them out of your offense if you can– IF YOU CAN– and the Knicks can.

    15. ruruland

      Z-man:
      I’ve posted this before and I’ll post it again. Raymond Felton is one of the better passers in the league.

      Consider most of these numbers are not adjusted for pace. Most of the teams he’s led have played slow. Most of the players who rank ahead of him have played in faster offenses.

      Assists per 48 LEAGUE rank compared to Andre Miller (who is rightfully considered the most underrated passer in the NBA)

      2011: Felton 13th (9.8 ap48) Miller 5th (11.7 ap48)
      2010: Felton 8th (11.0 ap48) Miller 11th (10.3)
      2009: Felton 23rd (8.1 ap48) Miller 16th (8.5)
      2008: Felton 20th (8.6 ap48) Miller 19th (8.6)
      2007: Felton 9th (9.4 ap48) Miller 14th (9.0)
      2006: Felton 13th (9.2 ap48) Miller 9th (10.1)

      Here’s the interesting part. They both do it in completely different ways. Felton is a traditional penetrate and kick, pick and roll point guard. Miller is an incredible quarterback who reads the defense at every point of the floor.

      Now, I think the post-Lin Knicks have constructed their backcourt brilliantly.

      Kidd is not a penetrate and kick point guard. He’s now an Andre Miller kind of passer, leading the break from behind so to speak. Just two years ago Kidd was 6th in the NBA in ap48, and fifth in 2010 — he’s a brilliant passer in all the ways Felton is not.

      You can put both guys on the floor at the same time — comfortably on defense — and have the best passing combination in the NBA.

      A BETTER version of Barrea/Kidd.

      Kidd provides better than average spot-up shooting in the half-court and is brilliant at putting teammates in position to score by anticipating defensive breakdowns.

      Dual pg lineups that will be incredibly efficient offensively:

      Kidd/Felton/JR/Melo/Amar’e
      Kidd/Felton/Melo/Amar’e/Chandler
      Kidd/Felton/Novak/JR/Chandler
      Kidd/Felton/Novak/Melo/Amar’e

      Those are all elite offensive units. You can sprinkle one pf Shumpert/Brewer/Camby into each of those lineups if you want more balance.

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