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Saturday, October 25, 2014

Knicks Morning News (Friday, Oct 25 2013)

  • [New York Times] Blazers Beat Warriors 90-74 in Preseason Finale (Fri, 25 Oct 2013 07:13:03 GMT)
    The taxing preseason, which included two games in China, is finally over. Whether the Golden State Warriors are ready to live up to lofty expectations remains unclear.    

  • [New York Times] Harden, Howard Help Rockets Roll Past Spurs (Fri, 25 Oct 2013 02:43:05 GMT)
    James Harden had 22 points and 11 assists, Dwight Howard added 15 points and 16 rebounds, and the Houston Rockets routed the San Antonio Spurs 109-92 on Thursday night.    

  • [New York Times] Pistons Beat Wolves on Smith’s 3-Pointer (Fri, 25 Oct 2013 02:16:02 GMT)
    Josh Smith made a 3-pointer as time expired and finished with 20 points to lift the Detroit Pistons to a 99-98 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Thursday night in both teams’ exhibition finale.    

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Melo's heart-to-heart with J.R. (Fri, 25 Oct 2013 00:33:40 EDT)
    NEW YORK — New York Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony said he had a “heart-to-heart” with longtime teammate J.R. Smith when news surfaced that Smith had been suspended five games for violating the NBA’s anti-drug policy.Anthony delivered a dose of tough love to Smith during the conversation.”The time is now,” Anthony said he told Smith. “You’ve got to want to help yourself. Everybody else wants to help you but if you don’t want to help yourself, that defeats the purpose.

  • [New York Daily News] J.R. to see first game action for Knicks (Fri, 25 Oct 2013 02:15:54 GMT)
    J.R. Smith visited Lambeau Field with a few teammates the other day when the Knicks were in Green Bay. Coming off knee surgery and still not feeling like his old explosive self, he didn’t try to do a Lambeau Leap on the field where they coined the term “the frozen tundra.”    

  • 28 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Friday, Oct 25 2013)

    1. MarcusRinaldi

      I’ve seen rumors that Chris Smith is reportedly in line to make the team as the 15th position.. http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nba/rumors/ Why oh why?? I just simply don’t see any real reason. Sure he’s J.R Smith’s brother, but that’s the same J.R who is suspended the first 5 games of the year because of marijuana.. I watched all of summer league.. I’ve watched pre-season… If they are going to take another guard it just HAS to be Murray… It’s not even a question.. Being A Syracuse fan I even saw Chris Smith play for Louisville… even then he was nothing special.. In fact he lost his scholarship and J.R paid for him to go to school. Do we really care about J.R Smith’s feelings enough to keep his brother around? The same J.R who cared enough about the team to fail a drug test? Please New York do the right thing, drop Chris Smith now… It’s also sad that I’m even debating the 15th spot on the roster considering how unlikely it is to get minutes, but hey, Cope started the year as the 15 man, and if injuries hit us hard again, whoever that has that spot may see some burn.

    2. Brian Cronin

      It seems pretty clear that they are doing it as a favor to JR. Woody even specifically noted that their interest in Half Pipe was in deference to their respect to the Smith family, as if the Smiths were, like, the Rockefellers or something.

      So yeah, it is awful, terrible and stupid, but at least it is only the 15th spot on the roster. Still, it is very, very disconcerting to know that the team is run so poorly that a player who has played his heart out and delivered like Murry has so far will possibly miss out on a roster spot just so the Knicks can do a favor for one of Dolan’s buddies.

      And even if Murry manages to hold on to a spot, that still means a different deserving player will be screwed out of a spot.

    3. Brian Cronin

      Royce White cut. He obviously has his issues, but man, he also has a whole lot of excess talent. I wonder if he wouldn’t be a nice pick-up to stash in the D-League.

    4. MarcusRinaldi

      Brian Cronin:
      Royce White cut. He obviously has his issues, but man, he also has a whole lot of excess talent. I wonder if he wouldn’t be a nice pick-up to stash in the D-League.

      What’s so surprising is that he was on the one team in the league where I would have expected him to get minutes. The tanking 76er’s of all teams.. But as a team with barely any young talent, it’s definitely worth taking a flier risk and putting him on your D-League squad. C.J Leslie has shown very few glimpses of future contribution, so a push to gain young talent with actual potential would be very much welcomed. It does make me very skeptical though that he was cut by the 76er’s.. The same team who still has Kwame Brown on their roster…..

    5. JK47

      It would be nice to take a flyer on a guy with lottery upside like Royce White, maybe even have Metta World Peace mentor him or something.

      Or we could throw the roster spot away to Chris Smith. Either way I’m cool. I mean, those 15th spots never turn out to be anything useful like Jeremy Lin or Chris Copeland.

    6. Jp

      Knicks beat writers are saying on twitter that powell and diogu have been cut and hearing that smith, murry, and tyler will be filling the last spots.

    7. er

      JK47:
      It would be nice to take a flyer on a guy with lottery upside like Royce White, maybe even have Metta World Peace mentor him or something.

      Or we could throw the roster spot away to Chris Smith.Either way I’m cool.I mean, those 15th spots never turn out to be anything useful like Jeremy Lin or Chris Copeland.

      yes we get it. They are idiots for keeping smith very true

    8. Jp

      Is tyler so good that even while hurt he’s going to make the team? Knicks need size and woody almost guaranteed one of powell diogu and aldrich would make it.

    9. stratomatic

      If it was possible, I’d be in favor of cutting JR Smith and keeping his little brother! I think that would be an EV+ move. Chris Smith not playing has to be better than JR Smith on the team and playing. lmao

    10. massive

      I just don’t understand why the worst basketball player in the NBA gets a roster spot here. I have never seen a worse basketball player in all my days of watching the NBA. He sucked in college, he sucked in summer league, he more than sucked in the pre season, and now the trash that is Half Pipe is going to be a New York Knick? Over Cole Aldrich and Ike Diogu? This makes me very, very angry.

      Has anyone ever seen a worse player than Chris Smith? Seriously. He has zero skills. He can’t shoot. He can’t pass. He can’t rebound. He can’t defend. But he is JR Smith’s little brother, so there’s that.

      And Jeremy Tyler? So we think it’s a good idea to give a player with an injury a roster spot WHEN EVERY PLAYER IN OUR FRONT COURT IS INJURY PRONE? That has to be the smartest thing ever.

      I guess we made it last year with Camby and James White on the roster. That still doesn’t excuse this inept handling of the roster spots. Our final roster should have Toure Murry, Cole Aldrich, and Ike Diogu. They earned the roster spots. The nepotism is disgusting.

    11. JK47

      It’s a joke. Yeah, in the big scheme of things Cole Aldrich and Ike Diogu probably weren’t gonna bring the Knicks a chip but those guys can at least go on an NBA floor and not completely embarrass themselves.

      Why do I root for this dumb shit team?

    12. steveoh

      Just going to throw this out this theory:

      Is having Chris Smith on the team a big deal if it means that JR will grow up a bit because he’ll have his little brother around? Is showing your little brother “the right way” begins with having an iota or responsibility and accountability? I think there’s something positive to the mindset of being the big brother. JR isn’t everyone’s little brother anymore. And if it gets JR to do just that, isn’t it worth a roster spot to someone who will never play?

      Or maybe not.

    13. MarcusRinaldi

      IF they sign Chris Smith I’m going to have a major dilemma on hand. I won’t know which of my favorite team’s management and ownership to be more angry with. Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, or Dolan and the Knicks.. At least Jerry THINKS he’s making a helpful move for his team when he does it, there isn’t any possible way someone could justify taking Chris Smith on their NBA roster.. Even the Bobcats and 76er’s have higher standards than a player who was mediocore at best in college. Heck I want my man Andy Rautins back over Smith.. Even give me Balkman… okay that ones a joke

    14. JK47

      The addition of Chris Smith was obviously a wink-wink pre-condition when it came to JR Smith signing his contract. This could not be any more obvious. This will probably end up costing the Knicks whatever draft picks they have left in the next ten years. I have a bad feeling about this.

    15. Donnie Walsh

      steveoh:
      Just going to throw this out this theory:
      Is having Chris Smith on the team a big deal if it means that JR will grow up a bit because he’ll have his little brother around?

      I’m pretty sure JR’s little brother is always around him. Giving the kid a redshirt jersey isn’t going to change a single thing in the psychological makeup of his older brother.

      Not that it matters. Chris Smith is going to be waived as soon as his contract becomes guaranteed. (Let’s just hope Steve Mills got pre-approval from the commish)

    16. johnno

      JK47: It’s a joke. Yeah, in the big scheme of things Cole Aldrich and Ike Diogu probably weren’t gonna bring the Knicks a chip but those guys can at least go on an NBA floor and not completely embarrass themselves

      If the rumors are true (and I am hoping against hope that they are not), how pissed must Aldrich, Powell and Diogu be? They might have had the chance to go to a camp where they had a legitimate chance to earn a spot on merit and, instead, they get cut so that Chris Smith gets a roster spot? Wow. That really, really sucks. I am happy for Murry though…

    17. Donnie Walsh

      johnno: how pissed must Aldrich, Powell and Diogu be?They might have had the chance to go to a camp where they had a legitimate chance to earn a spot on merit and, instead, they get cut so that Chris Smith gets a roster spot?

      In fairness, Toure Murray was in the same situation and actually made the team, despite the nepotism, so it’s not like Diogu, Cole, et al, had 0 chance of making the squad. (Basically, they had to outperform an injured guy with 0 NBA experience, and they didn’t. That has nothing to do with Chris Smith).

    18. lavor postell

      Somedays I really wonder why the fuck I support the Knicks. Keeping Chris Smith over Aldrich or Diogu is so irresponsible and foolish I barely have any words to describe the absurdity of the decision. I try and look at the positive most of the time in any personnel decisions the team makes, but there is actually nothing positive about this move. I’m going to be hitting happy hour real hard this evening…

    19. EB

      I think it says more about the ineptitude of Diogu and Aldrich. I liked that aldrich could rebound but god was he slow and horrible on offense

    20. lavor postell

      Mills announced the waiving of Leslie, Powell, Diogu, Tyler and CDR. I think what’s going to happen is we keep smith and once Tyler is healthy sign him again and waive Smith or send him down to D-League or something. I refuse to belive that Chris fucking Smith is going to be a Knick for the entirety of the season.

    21. stratomatic

      Hey guys, why the outrage and shock over this?

      Our owner is a total imbecile. That should not be a shock to anyone.

      It was obvious during the Isiah days. The only thing that has changed is that instead of getting his advice from Isiah, he’s getting it from a bunch of self serving idiots at CAA. Nothing will change until Dolan is gone or he legitimately hands over the reigns and all power and decision making to a competent person.

    22. yellowboy90

      would anyone of those guys contracts would have been guaranteed if they kept them? I think they probably bring Tyler back and Diougu seems like a player who can be signed anytime during the season

    23. EB

      Maybe the thinking is that with the increased depth we don’t actually need a 15th man. Still wanted Tyler.

    24. nicos

      I don’t even know what to say about Chris Smith making the team- just awful. Assuming that Smith had a guaranteed spot for whatever reason, I’d have kept Tyler over Murry- the Knicks just have too many injury prone big men not to have that extra insurance. I’d guess that they figured Tyler was less likely to get snapped up by another team given the foot injury. I could see Smith getting waived as soon as Tyler is healthy but that’ll make the whole thing even sketchier than it already is. I doubt the league would do anything about Smith making the team unless he gets waived almost immediately after getting his guaranteed money.

    25. Frank

      real thought – and not that it makes it ok, but maybe JR is generally better behaved when is brother is around. From all reports JR takes his role as big bro very seriously. If lil’ Pipe = 70% frequency of good JR instead of 50% good JR, then it’s not that dumb.

    26. Brian Cronin

      he’s getting it from a bunch of self serving idiots at CAA.

      I dunno, they seem to be doing their job well, so I wouldn’t deem them idiots.

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