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Knicks Morning News (Friday, Nov 09 2012)

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Melo is ‘Car’ that makes Knicks go (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:44:06 GMT)
    The newish team in town ran a better, more compelling preseason campaign. But the best thing to come out of Brooklyn this NBA season has been Carmelo Anthony. The Knicks woke up on Thursday in first place and as the league’s only undefeated team. Yes, a 3-0 start doesn’t mean the franchise should begin planning a parade for late June.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Kidd, Mavs grow apart (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:11:09 GMT)
    The Dallas Mavericks team that shows up at Madison Square Garden will hardly resemble the squad that captured its first NBA title two years ago.

  • [New York Times] Thunder 97, Bulls 91: Durant Leads Thunder Past Bulls (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 06:51:42 GMT)
    Kevin Durant scored 8 of his 24 points in the fourth quarter, and the Oklahoma City Thunder beat the Chicago Bulls.

  • [New York Times] Clippers Build Big Lead, Beat Blazers 103-90 (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 06:45:30 GMT)
    Jamal Crawford scored 25 points and the Los Angeles Clippers held off the Portland Trail Blazers for a 103-90 victory on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Nets Caught Between Off-Season Hype and a Slow Start (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 06:39:05 GMT)
    The franchise received plenty of attention for moving to Brooklyn, but a subsequent 1-2 start, including a 30-point loss against the Heat, has not gone unnoticed.

  • [New York Times] Durant Helps Thunder Rally Past Bulls (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 05:51:11 GMT)
    Some late game heroics from three-time all-star Kevin Durant powered the Oklahoma City Thunder to a 97-91 victory against the Chicago Bulls at the United Center in Chicago on Thursday.

  • [New York Times] The Oklahoma City Thunder’s Fairy-Tale Rise (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 05:07:02 GMT)
    The uplifting story of the Oklahoma City Thunder may have suffered an agonizing plot twist, but just try to find someone in town who doesn’t still believe in a happy ending.

  • [New York Times] Durant Helps Thunder Rally Past Bulls (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:33:11 GMT)
    Some late game heroics from three-time all-star Kevin Durant powered the Oklahoma City Thunder to a 97-91 victory against the Chicago Bulls at the United Center in Chicago on Thursday.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: What’s Behind the Wolves’ Good Start? (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 03:49:16 GMT)
    In the absence of Ricky Rubio and Kevin Love, the veterans Andrei Kirilenko and Brandon Roy have provided needed leadership for the Minnesota Timberwolves.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Irving May Be Under the Radar, but Not for Long (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 03:45:32 GMT)
    Kyrie Irving of Cleveland has skills perfectly tailored for the modern N.B.A.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: In the Heat, Lessons for the Nets (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 03:25:56 GMT)
    The stars of the Heat had some advice for the Nets, who are exhibiting growing pains with an overhauled roster built around two All-Stars, Deron Williams and Joe Johnson.

  • [New York Times] Kings’ Robinson Suspended Two Games for Elbowing Opponent (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 01:09:11 GMT)
    Sacramento Kings forward Thomas Robinson has been suspended by the National Basketball Association for two games for elbowing Jonas Jerebko of the Detroit Pistons in the neck, the league said on Thursday.

  • [New York Times] Warriors Center Bogut Ruled Out for Up to 10 Days (Fri, 09 Nov 2012 00:42:12 GMT)
    Golden State Warriors center Andrew Bogut will be sidelined for the next seven to 10 days in a bid to further strengthen his surgically repaired left ankle, the National Basketball Association team said on Thursday.

  • 52 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Friday, Nov 09 2012)

    1. Frank

      Wow that was quick. Mike Brown fired according to Twitter folk. Who are they going to find? What a disaster.

    2. DS

      Frank: Wow that was quick. Mike Brown fired according to Twitter folk. Who are they going to find? What a disaster.

      Wow – it’s done?? Who on Twitter?!

      I think Dwight would be enough to bring Phil out of hiatus but who knows. I can’t imagine promoting Eddie Jordan is going to solve any problems. Again, would love to see D’Antoni get the job.

    3. Frank

      If it’s D’Antoni (and that’s who Woj at Yahoo is saying is frontrunner), those Lakers/Knicks games are going to all-out wars. WOW.

    4. Brian Cronin

      It is not so much that I think it is a bad move, but how the hell do you give him a vote of confidence four games into the season and then fire him after game five?

    5. ruruland

      Frank:
      If it’s D’Antoni (and that’s who Woj at Yahoo is saying is frontrunner), those Lakers/Knicks games are going to all-out wars. WOW.

      This is crazy on so many levels.

    6. ruruland

      So, Jae Crowder thinks he’s going to hold Melo to 13 points tonight.

      Jae Crowder can shoot the basketball, I’m not sure he realizes who Carmelo Anthony is.

      Looking for a very energized Knicks team tonight.

    7. er

      lol i heart u ruru

      ruruland:
      So, Jae Crowder thinks he’s going to hold Melo to 13 points tonight.

      Jae Crowder can shoot the basketball, I’m not sure he realizes who Carmelo Anthony is.

      Looking for a very energized Knicks team tonight.

    8. Frank O.

      ruruland:
      So, Jae Crowder thinks he’s going to hold Melo to 13 points tonight.

      Jae Crowder can shoot the basketball, I’m not sure he realizes who Carmelo Anthony is.

      Looking for a very energized Knicks team tonight.

      Everyone knows people will try to provoke Melo into being a less efficient volume scorer. Wade seemed to be baiting Melo in game 1 – Wade was miced up – and it appeared to work with him taking 28 shots for 30 pts.
      Game 2 was a far better game for Melo.
      But you can see people trying to bait Melo into taking too many shots.
      I hope it doesn’t work, or if it does, Melo just destroys him.

    9. johnlocke

      True, but does make for entertaining game within the game.
      Melo v Crowder
      JR v Mayo
      Kidd & Chandler v Cuban / Mavs
      Felton v Collison should also be fun to watch

      Frank O.: Everyone knows people will try to provoke Melo into being a less efficient volume scorer. Wade seemed to be baiting Melo in game 1 – Wade was miced up – and it appeared to work with him taking 28 shots for 30 pts.
      Game 2 was a far better game for Melo.
      But you can see people trying to bait Melo into taking too many shots.
      I hope it doesn’t work, or if it does, Melo just destroys him.

    10. johnlocke

      Kobe and D’Antoni have a good relationship. I think D’Antoni make some sense. The only issue is that the Lakers have been losing primarily b/c of bad defense, so not sure how D’Antoni solves that, but they would be much more entertaining.

      ephus:
      MDA to Los Angeles would be the ultimate test for 7SOL.Would Kobe run those sets?

    11. Eternal OptiKnist

      I’d think D’antoni would want a smaller market after his NY ass-raping. My guess is you don’t fire a coach 5 games in unless you’ve already shaken hands with his replacement. D’antoni just had knee surgery and wont be walking until December. My $ is on Phil Jackson.

    12. thenamestsam

      Frank O.:
      D’Antoni would be perfect for Nash. Not far fetched.

      Perfect for Nash, and arguably perfect for Dwight, but a truly awful fit with the rest of that roster in my opinion. Pau would be completely out of place and lead to many of the same spacing issues we saw with the Amare+Tyson combo last year. Plus we already saw how one star scoring wing reacted to being turned into more of a secondary option/spot-up shooter, and Melo doesn’t have half the ego of Kobe. Then add in MWP, and their main lineup doesn’t provide nearly the spacing you need for SSOL.

      However, MWP could do a sort of reasonable approximation of Marion’s role I think if he played mostly as a small-ball 4 on offense. Which leads me to the conclusion that the only way Dantoni makes sense there is paired with moving Pau for somebody who can stretch the floor at either the 3 or 4, and ideally a couple guys capable of helping them in that regard.

      But now you’re talking about a big change to the roster, a 100% shift in offensive philosophy (from PG minimizing Princeton to PG maximizing SSOL) all midseason, and all in an effort to “fix” an offense that’s currently 6th in the league despite players totally unfamiliar with it. Seems nuts to me.

    13. Eternal OptiKnist

      So i wasn’t the only one thinking that that comment by Jae Crowder was in effort to goat Melo into taking 600 shots making 36%! Seems like the type of thing that would totally work too..at least last season. Last year if Melo says “I don’t care how much i score as long as we win”, i could imagine him still reacting emtionally…maybe this coach and team keeps that type of reaction in check though.

    14. iserp

      johnlocke: Kobe and D’Antoni have a good relationship. I think D’Antoni make some sense. The only issue is that the Lakers have been losing primarily b/c of bad defense, so not sure how D’Antoni solves that, but they would be much more entertaining.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if D’Antoni makes for an uber-efficient offense. Even if the D stays bad, that should get the team going. D’Antoni has turned very questionable offensive players into respectable players…. That should work at least with their weak bench, i am pretty sure Jodie Meeks would benefit from it. Not sure what to think about Kobe. On one hand, he is really talented and could adapt perfectly into that system, besides, he would take less of a beating each game. OTOH, he might not like spotting for Steve Nash….

    15. Juany8

      Brian Cronin:
      It is not so much that I think it is a bad move, but how the hell do you give him a vote of confidence four games into the season and then fire him after game five?

      Let’s face it, if you’re getting a vote of confidence from management it pretty much means you’re gone. He never should have been hired in the first place, although I don’t think D’Antoni is going to fix their D lol. If I was the Lakers, I would make Larry Brown or Jerry Sloan a big offer and force them to say no first.

    16. yellowboy90

      MDA can go from Lin, Melo, and Stat to Nash, Kobe, and Howard. Life would be nice for MDA. Although, the rest of the roster does not fit with ssol. Would Gasol be on the block to get more shooters?

    17. thenamestsam

      Eternal OptiKnist:
      I’d think D’antoni would want a smaller market after his NY ass-raping.My guess is you don’t fire a coach 5 games in unless you’ve already shaken hands with his replacement.D’antoni just had knee surgery and wont be walking until December.My $ is on Phil Jackson.

      This is my thought process. 5 games is so freaking quick, and even earlier today there were rumblings that Brown needed a good homestand or he was done. That makes some sense. If, at the end of the homestand, they were say 3-8, that seems like an appropriate time to make a change. 11 games is still short, but it’s 15% of the season almost, and if your team has a 2 year window you can’t really afford to wait around too much.

      Then suddenly, out of nowhere, Brown is fired that same afternoon. Seems like something changed their mind. The thing that makes the most sense to me is that they started calling around to some candidates so they’d have some idea of what was out there if they decided to go that route at the end of the homestand. But then someone said yes who made them think, “Well we’d rather have him than Brown no matter what, so why wait and give Brown the chance to turn things around”. For that to make sense it would logically be someone who they assumed wasn’t available. Makes the most sense if it’s Phil. Alternate name: Jeff Van Gundy.

      There’s my completely idle speculation.

    18. iserp

      yellowboy90: MDA can go from Lin, Melo, and Stat to Nash, Kobe, and Howard. Life would be nice for MDA. Although, the rest of the roster does not fit with ssol. Would Gasol be on the block to get more shooters?

      Pau has a nice shooting touch, and he passes really well. Even if he is better in the post, he fits well for SSOL. I wouldn’t be surprised if he expanded his range to 3pt.

    19. ephus

      thenamestsam: Alternate name: Jeff Van Gundy.

      Since Dwight Howard is not signed for next year, I highly doubt that the Lakers are going to bring another Van Gundy into to be his coach.

    20. Count de Pennies

      I could not imagine a worse fit for that Lakers team than D’Antoni.

      That team has one of the oldest and slowest rosters in the NBA. I’m not sure how successful a 7SOL offense would be when the seven foot center is the fastest guy on the team. Making matters worse, the Lakers have no bench to speak of, either.

      I’m holding out hope that they bring on Stan Van Gundy. If for no other reason that to see Dwight’s head explode.

    21. thenamestsam

      ephus: Since Dwight Howard is not signed for next year, I highly doubt that the Lakers are going to bring another Van Gundy into to be his coach.

      Possibly. I’m sure they’d at least talk to Dwight before going forward with it, but it’s not like Jeff and Stan are the same guy. It’s not that hard for me to imagine that Dwight would be fine working with Jeff despite his problems with Stan.

      I just get the feeling it’s not going to be someone from the obviously available class of coaches: Dantoni, McMillian, Sloan etc. If they preferred those guys enough to want to make the move 5 games into the season, I think they would have preferred them enough to make the change in the offseason.

    22. Brian Cronin

      Let’s face it, if you’re getting a vote of confidence from management it pretty much means you’re gone. He never should have been hired in the first place, although I don’t think D’Antoni is going to fix their D lol. If I was the Lakers, I would make Larry Brown or Jerry Sloan a big offer and force them to say no first.

      It likely means you’re going to eventually be gone, but not get fired two days later, especially five games into the season. Unless some big name suddenly made himself available, this is a weird move by the Lakers (and kind of jerky, I think). I agree that Brown was awful and never should have been hired, but two days after you say you’re not firing him you fire him?

    23. Brian Cronin

      By the way, Simmons’ attitude on D’Antoni is bizarre. He goes from praising him to ripping him to praising him to ripping him. And D’Antoni has not changed in the meantime, Simmons just keeps changing his mind about him. Recently he was making jokes about how D’Antoni would be lucky to coach in the WNBA and now Simmons says he’d be worried about Lakers getting D’Antoni as their coach? How does that make sense?

    24. ephus

      thenamestsam: Possibly. I’m sure they’d at least talk to Dwight before going forward with it, but it’s not like Jeff and Stan are the same guy. It’s not that hard for me to imagine that Dwight would be fine working with Jeff despite his problems with Stan.

      When Stan was fired, there were a lot of stories (including an extended interview on Real Sports on HBO) about how closely Stan and Jeff follow each other’s careers. IIRC, they speak about coaching every night. I will be shocked if a Van Gundy coaches Howard this season, but I have been shocked before and I will be shocked again.

    25. Eternal OptiKnist

      thenamestsam: Possibly. I’m sure they’d at least talk to Dwight before going forward with it, but it’s not like Jeff and Stan are the same guy. It’s not that hard for me to imagine that Dwight would be fine working with Jeff despite his problems with Stan.I just get the feeling it’s not going to be someone from the obviously available class of coaches: Dantoni, McMillian, Sloan etc. If they preferred those guys enough to want to make the move 5 games into the season, I think they would have preferred them enough to make the change in the offseason.

      JVG strikes me as a loyal guy; he’s opened his mouth to have his brother’s back in many instances when it wouldnt be politically correct to do so. Two occasions that come to mind – 1) when SVG got fired in Orlando..kinda ripping DH12 in doing so and 2) When his brother’s ESPN offer was pulled..definitely ripping ESPN in doing so. I can’t imagine Jeff going to LA, so i’d say it doesnt happen. But then again there was a story out there i think recently about how DH12 and SVG have spoken since everything went down and are cool now..so maybe its all water under the bridge and JVG could go without screwing is big bro.

    26. thenamestsam

      ephus: When Stan was fired, there were a lot of stories (including an extended interview on Real Sports on HBO) about how closely Stan and Jeff follow each other’s careers.IIRC, they speak about coaching every night.I will be shocked if a Van Gundy coaches Howard this season, but I have been shocked before and I will be shocked again.

      Yeah, I know they’re pretty tight, but that seems like more of an argument for why JVG might not want to coach Dwight than why Dwight might not be cool with JVG.

      Either way I don’t feel that strongly that it will be JVG, just that I think it’s likely someone outside of the group of coaches commonly thought of as available. Like Brian said, why do this so suddenly unless something changed suddenly? Either a big name made themselves available, or one of the stars (read: Kobe) came to them and made a stink. Outside of that I just can’t figure why this happened today, immediately after a vote of confidence, and the same day it leaked that Brown needed a good homestand to save his job. All signs pointed to a firing at the end of the homestand unless things turned around quickly, but not an immediate firing.

    27. Brian Cronin

      By the by, whichever coach gets this job is going to look great. It is like a no-lose proposition. If they continue to struggle, it is all Brown’s fault. If they improve, it is all you.

    28. Donnie Walsh

      Eternal OptiKnist:
      My guess is you don’t fire a coach 5 games in unless you’ve already shaken hands with his replacement.D’antoni just had knee surgery and wont be walking until December.My $ is on Phil Jackson…

      Perhaps Pat Riley is ready to whip out his fax machine?

    29. Eternal OptiKnist

      man, i love it…the big drama is literally as far away as possible from MSG! This saves us from the “Amare is going to ruin the team when he comes back” talk for at least a week.

    30. Brian Cronin

      man, i love it…the big drama is literally as far away as possible from MSG! This saves us from the “Amare is going to ruin the team when he comes back” talk for at least a week.

      Right? Everything is coming up roses for the Knicks! I love it! I am so used to bad luck that I can hardly believe it when the Knicks get good luck!

    31. johnlocke

      Tonight’s predictions :
      1) Mayo goes off for ~30 pts or more
      2) Knicks keep Dallas under 100 points
      3) Knicks win by 12

    32. OTK

      Can someone help a brother out?

      I’m flying to Austin, TX tonight during the game. Don’t want to miss it. Will have internet access the whole way.

      Any you guys know how I can legally watch or listen to the game? I know about League Pass but I don’t need an annual subscription. This is just for one night. Does the NBA doing anything for such a thing?

    33. max fisher-cohen

      thenamestsam: Perfect for Nash, and arguably perfect for Dwight, but a truly awful fit with the rest of that roster in my opinion. Pau would be completely out of place and lead to many of the same spacing issues we saw with the Amare+Tyson combo last year. Plus we already saw how one star scoring wing reacted to being turned into more of a secondary option/spot-up shooter, and Melo doesn’t have half the ego of Kobe. Then add in MWP, and their main lineup doesn’t provide nearly the spacing you need for SSOL.

      However, MWP could do a sort of reasonable approximation of Marion’s role I think if he played mostly as a small-ball 4 on offense. Which leads me to the conclusion that the only way Dantoni makes sense there is paired with moving Pau for somebody who can stretch the floor at either the 3 or 4, and ideally a couple guys capable of helping them in that regard.

      I think the Lakers know they’ll have to move Gasol to improve their awful bench — he, Kobe and Dwight are the only valuable pieces LA has, and Kobe and Dwight aren’t going anywhere — so it’s less a problem than it might seem, and Kobe I think is truly at a point where he’s ready to take less of the scoring load as long as the team is still winning.

      I could see LA sending Gasol and Duhon to Toronto for Bargnani (stretch 4), Calderon (keep Nash’s minutes down while maintaining the offense), Amir Johnson (Marion replacement). Maybe Fields can rejoin MDA too.

      Harrington, Afflalo and Nelson also work in a trade for Gasol, but you’d probably have to involve a 3rd team as Orlando probably doesn’t want Gasol.

    34. ruruland

      Frank O.: Everyone knows people will try to provoke Melo into being a less efficient volume scorer. Wade seemed to be baiting Melo in game 1 – Wade was miced up – and it appeared to work with him taking 28 shots for 30 pts.
      Game 2 was a far better game for Melo.
      But you can see people trying to bait Melo into taking too many shots.
      I hope it doesn’t work, or if it does, Melo just destroys him.

      Let’s just say this, it’s not just what Crowder said, it’s also what Dallas offers up defensively without Marion.

      I’m typically in the 85 % range when predicting a big Melo game going back to his Denver days, tonight will be the first this season I predict a big Melo game, meaning 30+ points on efficient shooting (55ts or above)

    35. ruruland

      max fisher-cohen: I think the Lakers know they’ll have to move Gasol to improve their awful bench — he, Kobe and Dwight are the only valuable pieces LA has, and Kobe and Dwight aren’t going anywhere — so it’s less a problem than it might seem, and Kobe I think is truly at a point where he’s ready to take less of the scoring load as long as the team is still winning.

      I could see LA sending Gasol and Duhon to Toronto for Bargnani (stretch 4), Calderon (keep Nash’s minutes down while maintaining the offense), Amir Johnson (Marion replacement). Maybe Fields can rejoin MDA too.

      Harrington, Afflalo and Nelson also work in a trade for Gasol, but you’d probably have to involve a 3rd team as Orlando probably doesn’t want Gasol.

      This is wher things start to get silly.

      If the logic is to build an MDA offense knowing he’s too stubborn to alter his offense some to the personnel (hich he is of course), than you ought to trade Kobe and Gasol.

      Moreover, while Howard is a good pnr center who’d work well with Nash, I don’t believe he’s as good a movement and pnr center as even Gortat, let alone Amar’e.

      Remember, many of the looks for even a center in MDA’s offense are mid-range jumpers.

      Dwight’s greatest offensive strength is when he’s in the post. He has no peer down there, and MDA is not going to cater to what would be the Lakers greatest strength.

      MDA still makes little sense, even with an aging Nash.

    36. max fisher-cohen

      @ruru, I don’t think it’s about building an MDA team. It’s about building a team that can take advantage of Nash, and it’s about getting some depth. The easiest position to find talent at is on the wings.

      MDA’s system just happens to work well with just one big man, and it just happens to be the case that Gasol is the only real asset LA would be willing to trade.

      If Jackson comes on, then Nash is going to be pretty useless. The Lakers probably could get a couple overpaid players for MWP (MWP only has 2 years left including this one), but the return is going to be pretty crappy.

    37. ruruland

      Knicks point differential with Woodson (21-6)= 11.7

      Knicks point differential including playoffs with incredibly high SOS (22-11)= +8.66

      Highest point differential last ten years.

      2011: Bulls + 8.1
      2010:Bulls +7.3
      2009: Cavaliers 6.6
      2008: Cavaliers 8.8
      2007: Boston 10.2
      2006:Dallas 8.2
      2005:Spurs 7.3
      2004: Suns 9.1
      2003:Indiana 5.9
      2002: Dallas 7.8

      All ten teams won at least 60 games.

      A 33 game sample which ad more than 20% of the games played against the best team in the NBA!!!!!!!!

    38. ruruland

      max fisher-cohen:
      @ruru, I don’t think it’s about building an MDA team. It’s about building a team that can take advantage of Nash, and it’s about getting some depth. The easiest position to find talent at is on the wings.

      MDA’s system just happens to work well with just one big man, and it just happens to be the case that Gasol is the only real asset LA would be willing to trade.

      If Jackson comes on, then Nash is going to be pretty useless. The Lakers probably could get a couple overpaid players for MWP (MWP only has 2 years left including this one), but the return is going to be pretty crappy.

      Don’t believe that for a second. Jackson is smarter than confining himself to the triangle when he has the greatest pick and roll pg of all time.

      Believe it or not, there are ways to incorporate high pick and roll with a motion offense. One Jerry Sloan did it for years with a guy named John Stockton.

      Bad coaches are the ones who can’t find congruency between system and personnel.

      No way the Lakers trade the only real glue piece that would make Kobe/Dwight/Nash on both ends of the floor.

      Trade Gasol for a bunch of poor defensive MDA floor spreaders, and you suddenly don’t have a defense good enough to win an NBA championship.

      Having two 7 foot rim protector is the biggest reason the Lakers won their last two championships.

    39. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Plus you don’t trade Gasol unless you’re getting productive players back. You don’t talk about “fit” before “efficient.”

    40. max fisher-cohen

      fair points. I don’t think either do much good defensively though against uptempo teams like OKC, Miami or San Antonio. Howard helps, but you’d be better off with a Marion or Amir Johnson type player who can jump the pick and roll than with both Gasol and Howard running around at the three point line.

      I agree though that Jackson could probably figure out a way to make Nash matter. No matter what, I would certainly hire Jackson before MDA just because of hte instant respect he demands. That still doesn’t fix the depth issue though. I suppose LA could trade Nash, but that would be really cold.

      Think about the Knicks now. They are winning with a single mobile big in the middle, one strong wing defender, a combo forward in Melo, and two decent point guard defenders. They are not big. What is effective about their defense is the fact that they have smart defensive players who make the right rotations in addition to the single paint patroller. This allows them to control penetrators, which is increasingly the

      The only decent teams that plays two real big guys up front are Chicago and Memphis. Chicago is likely to amnesty Boozer and replace him in the SL with Gibson, and both of Memphis’s bigs have decent range. OKC has perkins and Ibaka, but they don’t share much time on the floor together.

    41. nicos

      ruruland: Don’t believe that for a second. Jackson is smarter than confining himself to the triangle when he has the greatest pick and roll pg of all time.

      Believe it or not, there are ways to incorporate high pick and roll with a motion offense. One Jerry Sloan did it for years with a guy named John Stockton.

      Bad coaches are the ones who can’t find congruency between system and personnel.

      No way the Lakers trade the only real glue piece that would make Kobe/Dwight/Nash on both ends of the floor.

      Trade Gasol for a bunch of poor defensive MDA floor spreaders, and you suddenly don’t have a defense good enough to win an NBA championship.

      Having two 7 foot rim protector is the biggest reason the Lakers won their last two championships.

      Not sure how much Pau has left defensively at the four. There were times in the playoffs last year where he was positively statuesque. He just doesn’t move well enough anymore to deal with mobile fours- that puts a lot of pressure (and potential for fouls) on DH.

    42. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      nicos: Not sure how much Pau has left defensively at the four.There were times in the playoffs last year where he was positively statuesque.He just doesn’t move well enough anymore to deal with mobile fours- that puts a lot of pressure (and potential for fouls) on DH.

      Does Dwight Howard take pressure off the 4 or does the 4 put pressure on him?

    43. ruruland

      max fisher-cohen:
      fair points. I don’t think either do much good defensively though against uptempo teams like OKC, Miami or San Antonio. Howard helps, but you’d be better off with a Marion or Amir Johnson type player who can jump the pick and roll than with both Gasol and Howard running around at the three point line.

      I agree though that Jackson could probably figure out a way to make Nash matter. No matter what, I would certainly hire Jackson before MDA just because of hte instant respect he demands. That still doesn’t fix the depth issue though. I suppose LA could trade Nash, but that would be really cold.

      Think about the Knicks now. They are winning with a single mobile big in the middle, one strong wing defender, a combo forward in Melo, and two decent point guard defenders. They are not big. What is effective about their defense is the fact that they have smart defensive players who make the right rotations in addition to the single paint patroller. This allows them to control penetrators, which is increasingly the

      The only decent teams that plays two real big guys up front are Chicago and Memphis. Chicago is likely to amnesty Boozer and replace him in the SL with Gibson, and both of Memphis’s bigs have decent range. OKC has perkins and Ibaka, but they don’t share much time on the floor together.

      Yes, that is all true, but I think the proper strategy would be to try to take advantage of having a great power forward who can crush a small team like the Heat on the glass.

      I’d even allow Gasol to play Lebron and stay 5-7 feet off him and dare him to beat you with jumpers for a whole series.

    44. ruruland

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: Does Dwight Howard take pressure off the 4 or does the 4 put pressure on him?

      Some of both.

      From an offensive perspective, look at how Ryan Anderson’s production has dipped without Dwight in the lineup.

    45. yellowboy90

      I do not think Gasol is going to work well with MDA. He has been playing the floor spreader for the past two years and has struggled. I believe it was S.A.S that mentioned he has shot more 3s under Brown than he had ever with Jackson.

      Who exactly would you try to get though? Bargnani or try to get Anderson when he is able to get traded. Maybe go outside the box and try to get Granger and maybe West(highly unlikey) from the Pacers and Have Metta play the Shawn Marion small 4 role. Bring West off the bench to sure up the second unit. Thats a little too crazy.

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