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Knicks Morning News (Friday, Mar 29 2013)

  • [New York Post] Stat: Knee surgery may mean playoff return for Amar’e (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:28:39 -0500)
    Amar’e Stoudemire has been down this road before. So he said playing four games in five nights for the Knicks last month did not bring about another knee surgery. The knee, Stoudemire said, was set to give out.
    “It was just a matter of time before it happened and…

  • [New York Post] Novak credits veterans (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 02:25:56 -0500)
    Just 11 days ago, the Knicks were teetering on the brink of disaster, having lost the first four games on their West Coast road trip.
    Coming off a loss in Los Angeles to the Clippers, the team headed to Utah, a place where they hadn’t won since 2005.
    All…

  • [New York Times] Pick 6: A Look at the NBA’s Late-Season Races (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:19:24 GMT)
    The races are on in the NBA, both on and off the court.

  • [New York Times] Former Coach Charged With Match-Fixing in South Korea (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:25:05 GMT)
    A leading South Korean basketball coach, arrested earlier this month for allegedly rigging matches, was among four people formally charged by prosecutors on Friday, local media reported.

  • [New York Times] Cousins Leads Kings Past Suns, 117-103 (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:37:15 GMT)
    DeMarcus Cousins scored 17 consecutive points in the first half and finished with 34 in the Sacramento Kings’ 117-103 victory over the Phoenix Suns on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Referees Missed Foul Call on Lakers’ Kobe Bryant (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:23:31 GMT)
    The N.B.A. informed the Timberwolves that the referee crew should have called the Lakers’ Kobe Bryant for a foul on a potential game-tying 3-pointer at the buzzer.

  • [New York Times] Kobe Bryant Has Bone Spur in Left Foot (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:13:32 GMT)
    Kobe Bryant has a bone spur in his left foot.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Bucks Rally Past Lakers With Help of Larry Sanders (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 03:55:21 GMT)
    Larry Sanders scored 13 of his career-high 21 points in the third quarter, and the host Milwaukee Bucks rallied to beat the Los Angeles Lakers.

  • [New York Times] George, Pacers Topple Mavericks 103-78 (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 03:22:50 GMT)
    Paul George had 24 points and eight rebounds and the Indiana Pacers broke open a close game in the third quarter to beat the Dallas Mavericks 103-78 on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Sanders Helps Bucks Beat Lakers 113-103 (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 03:19:45 GMT)
    Larry Sanders scored 13 of his career-high 21 points in the third quarter and the Milwaukee Bucks rallied to beat the Los Angeles Lakers 113-103 on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Knicks-Nets Race Heads for Final Stretch (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 03:15:48 GMT)
    The Knicks hold a small lead over the Nets in the Atlantic Division race, but it’s not enough to keep them feeling comfortable.

  • [New York Times] Tom Boerwinkle, Bulls Center, Dies at 67 (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 03:01:07 GMT)
    Mr. Boerwinkle, a stalwart center for the Chicago Bulls in the 1970s, set a franchise record with 37 rebounds.

  • [New York Times] Analysis: Heat Used Streak to Solidify a Top Seed (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 02:31:05 GMT)
    Miami not only put together a 27-game winning streak but also gave itself an insurmountable lead over the Eastern Conference competition.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Knicks’ Wild Thing Settles Into Groove at the Right Time (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 02:20:23 GMT)
    J.R. Smith has rarely shown the consistency that he has exhibited during the Knicks’ six-game winning streak. He’s scoring more and shooting better.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Stoudemire Happy After Surgery, but Playoffs Are Uncertain (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:50:07 GMT)
    Amar’e Stoudemire of the Knicks spoke about his rehabilitation from the surgery he had on his right knee three weeks ago.

  • [New York Times] NBA Commissioner-In-Waiting Eyes Global Expansion (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:13:07 GMT)
    A golden period awaits the National Basketball Association (NBA) with global interest and business opportunities growing, the man set to replace Commissioner David Stern, said on Thursday.

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Amar’e knees, contract mean painful reality (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:58:17 GMT)
    Amar’e Stoudemire apparently shared the same concerns about his knees that the Phoenix Suns’ medical staff expressed to the team’s front office before the wild free agent summer of 2010.

  • 42 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Friday, Mar 29 2013)

    1. danvt

      I actually think the injuries have been good for this team. This incarnation of NYK had leveled off and it was apparent with a demolition at the hands of the Pacers coming off the all star break. People other than the big three needed to play better and to earn the trust of the coach. So, we’ve seen the JR rebirth plus Shumpert, Kidd, Prigioni, and Copeland have all contributed more. Max wrote about how poor everyone after our top 5 was and, IMHO, that’s because there was no belief in them from Woodson. Shumpert needed to play more than 5 faux starter minutes and to not get the evil eye every time he tried to create something on offense. Of course, the other variable is Kenyon Martin, who has been a revelation.

      So, now I have hope again. I can’t say I’m picking them to win it all but I’m excited about getting the Atlantic division, getting to 50 wins, and having a punchers chance in the playoffs. I appreciate the fortitude of our boys.

    2. danvt

      My concern with Amar’e actually isn’t the injuries. I think he’ll come back well. My concern is the inability to get beyond a .500 record with him. We may be better with Kenyon.

    3. DS

      d-mar:
      Too bad the playoffs don’t start today, we’d be playing Atlanta in the 1st round

      Don’t be scared of the Bulls or C’s.

    4. DS

      What’s the latest on Tyson?! It might be good to give him 15 mins. of burn against the ‘Cats to warm up.

    5. Keniman Shumpwalker

      DS:
      What’s the latest on Tyson?!It might be good to give him 15 mins. of burn against the ‘Cats to warm up.

      Given the recent history of the Knicks medical staff and Woodson’s comments yesterday saying he “thinks” Tyson “should” be back in time for the playoffs I’m lead to only one possible conclusion: Tyson Chandler has broken his neck, ruptured his spleen, his left eye fell out, and he will never walk again. And he’s probably dead too. And they’re just propping him up Weekend at Bernie’s style until the season’s over at which point they’ll publicly announce his untimely demise.

    6. DS

      Keniman Shumpwalker: Given the recent history of the Knicks medical staff and Woodson’s comments yesterday saying he “thinks” Tyson “should” be back in time for the playoffs I’m lead to only one possible conclusion: Tyson Chandler has broken his neck, ruptured his spleen, his left eye fell out, and he will never walk again. And he’s probably dead too. And they’re just propping him up Weekend at Bernie’s style until the season’s over at which point they’ll publicly announce his untimely demise.

      I like your username a lot and am sure you’re a funny person, but I’m too sensitive about Tyson’s health for that post!

    7. Z-man

      I’m OK with either the 2 or the 3 spot. Would prefer to play the Hawks, then the Nets, Celts, or Bulls are all about even. I think K-Mart gives us an edge we didn’t have vs. those teams.

      As much as I would hate to play the Celts, it would be great to eliminate them.

    8. Keniman Shumpwalker

      DS: I like your username a lot and am sure you’re a funny person, but I’m too sensitive about Tyson’s health for that post!

      I know, I know. One shouldn’t jest about these things. But seriously, my faith in the Knicks medical staff is non-existent and, further, the Dolan Code of Silence exacerbates the problem. How many times have we had somebody be “day to day” with some small, vaguely described injury, only to find out months later that it was significantly more serious than originally reported? As good as I’ve been feeling about this little win streak and uptick in quality of play, it’s tempered by the fact that I’m legit worried about Tyson. Bulging discs are NO JOKE. I’ve dealt with one in my L4-L5 area and I felt like a fucking cripple when it was at it’s worst. Not trying to be a doom prognosticator here, hoping for the best, but color me concerned.

    9. lavor postell

      Keniman Shumpwalker: I know, I know. One shouldn’t jest about these things. But seriously, my faith in the Knicks medical staff is non-existent and, further, the Dolan Code of Silence exacerbates the problem. How many times have we had somebody be “day to day” with some small, vaguely described injury, only to find out months later that it was significantly more serious than originally reported? As good as I’ve been feeling about this little win streak and uptick in quality of play, it’s tempered by the fact that I’m legit worried about Tyson. Bulging discs are NO JOKE. I’ve dealt with one in my L4-L5 area and I felt like a fucking cripple when it was at it’s worst. Not trying to be a doom prognosticator here, hoping for the best, but color me concerned.

      I’d imagine that if today were the playoffs he could play and be a factor, but looking at how the schedule has opened up for us. If we take care of business tonight and on Sunday against Boston while the Nets hopefully lose both, but at least one of their games tonight at Denver or tomorrow at Utah we’ll have a 3.5 game lead with 10 to plays for us and 9 for them. Then Tuesday we play Miami and Wednesday at Atlanta. I’d hope Tyson could be back for the Hawks, but at the latest next Friday against the Bucks. After that we travel to OKC for the Sunday matinee, Wizards at home and then an @ Chicago, @ Cleveland back to back Thursday, Friday followed by the Pacers at home on Sunday.

      The Nets have a far easier schedule after these next two. They travel to Cleveland on Wednesday and get Chicago at home the next night. Charlotte at home next Saturday followed by a Tuesday, Wednesday back to back at home vs. Philly and then at Boston. That Friday they play at Indiana and then travel to Toronto on the same Sunday we play the Pacers. We’d each have 2 games left at that point which would hopefully be…

    10. massive

      I’m starting to believe the Knicks’ medical staff got their jobs by being really good at the Operation board game. I really want them gone. Health has been a problem with this team for a while, so it’s either we have a terrible medical staff, or all of our players have terrible health. This “longer than we thought” injury garbage is sickening.

    11. Keniman Shumpwalker

      lavor postell: I’d imagine that if today were the playoffs he could play and be a factor, but looking at how the schedule has opened up for us.If we take care of business tonight and on Sunday against Boston while the Nets hopefully lose both, but at least one of their games tonight at Denver or tomorrow at Utah we’ll have a 3.5 game lead with 10 to plays for us and 9 for them.Then Tuesday we play Miami and Wednesday at Atlanta.I’d hope Tyson could be back for the Hawks, but at the latest next Friday against the Bucks.After that we travel to OKC for the Sunday matinee, Wizards at home and then an @ Chicago, @ Cleveland back to back Thursday, Friday followed by the Pacers at home on Sunday.

      The Nets have a far easier schedule after these next two.They travel to Cleveland on Wednesday and get Chicago at home the next night.Charlotte at home next Saturday followed by a Tuesday, Wednesday back to back at home vs. Philly and then at Boston.That Friday they play at Indiana and then travel to Toronto on the same Sunday we play the Pacers.We’d each have 2 games left at that point which would hopefully be…

      I’m pretty confident that we can hold on to the Atlantic even without Tyson giving us much, if anything, over these last 12 games and I agree that he’d probably be playing right now if the playoffs had already begun. My concern is in knowing how debilitating these types on injuries can be and that a limited Tyson would really hinder our chances if we run into the Bulls or Pacers in the 2nd round (or the Bulls in the 1st, for that matter).

    12. Brian Cronin

      I am very optimistic about the Knicks’ #2 seed chances, but at the same time, Chandler’s injury scares the crap out of me. As noted already, a bulging disc in your neck is very, very bad.

    13. Brian Cronin

      I think he always knew it would be beneficial, he was just doing so well even without it that he just never felt like putting the effort in to learn it.

    14. lavor postell

      Brian Cronin:
      I think he always knew it would be beneficial, he was just doing so well even without it that he just never felt like putting the effort in to learn it.

      I think it probably had a lot to do with getting labelled as a power forward and what that entailed. He was very hesitant to play the 4 in Cleveland and talked about it a bunch. Losing to Dallas in the finals and all the shit he got for it after “The Decision” probably gave him the final nudge in that direction that he needed.

    15. ruruland

      lavor postell: I think it probably had a lot to do with getting labelled as a power forward and what that entailed.He was very hesitant to play the 4 in Cleveland and talked about it a bunch.Losing to Dallas in the finals and all the shit he got for it after “The Decision” probably gave him the final nudge in that direction that he needed.

      It’s just another glaring example of how important shot distribution is, and how a really talented offensive player can change it largely dependent on surrounding personnel.

    16. Juany8

      I think we can all agree that having Chandler back for the playoffs at full strength is more important than the 2 seed, but having Kenyon Martin and JR smith playing like all stars softens the blow.

      Also I know this seems a bit silly, but does anyone else feel like amar’e and JR couldn’t play together properly? jR often seemed to be ignoring amar’e, and he was terrible the entire time ama’re was healthy.

    17. Darrell H.

      Knicks (44- 26)

      Fri, Mar 29 vs Charlotte 7:30PM Win
      Sun, Mar 31 vs Boston 7:30PM ?
      Tue, Apr 2 @ Miami 8:00PM Loss
      Wed, Apr 3 @ Atlanta 7:00PM ?
      Fri, Apr 5 vs Milwaukee 7:30PM Win
      Sun, Apr 7 @ Oklahoma City 1:00PM Loss
      Tue, Apr 9 vs Washington 7:30PM Win
      Thu, Apr 11 @ Chicago 8:00PM ?
      Fri, Apr 12 @ Cleveland 7:30PM Win
      Sun, Apr 14 vs Indiana 3:30PM ?
      Mon, Apr 15 @ Charlotte 7:00PM Win
      Wed, Apr 17 vs Atlanta 8:00PM ?

      Finish 49 – 28 with 5 very questionable

      Nets (42 – 29)
      Fri, Mar 29 @ Denver 9:00PM Loss
      Sat, Mar 30 @ Utah 9:00PM Win
      Wed, Apr 3 @ Cleveland 7:00PM Win
      Thu, Apr 4 vs Chicago 7:00PM ?
      Sat, Apr 6 vs Charlotte 7:30PM Win
      Tue, Apr 9 vs Philadelphia 7:30PM Win
      Wed, Apr 10 @ Boston 8:00PM ?
      Fri, Apr 12 @ Indiana 7:00PM ?
      Sun, Apr 14 @ Toronto 3:30PM Win
      Mon, Apr 15 vs Washington 7:30PM Win
      Wed, Apr 17 vs Detroit 8:00PM Win

      Finish 49 – 30 with 3 very questionable

      Holding off the Nets is going to be pretty tough. If the Knicks win all the questionable home games, that is 52-30. That would do it since I think the Nets end up with about 50. Still, there are many variables in all of this. If Woodson continues to overplay JR and Martin, we could have more injury issues too. I also worry that the Knicks will relax in some of the “easy” win games and give away a couple of those too. The Nets are wildly inconsistent so they are harder to predict…

      Should be an interesting 3 weeks coming up !!!

    18. Garson

      Looks like Celtics will most likely end up in the 7 spot

      I think i would prefer the 3rd slot and an easier first rounder vs the hawks then be the 2nd seed and face off vs the Celtics.

    19. Brian Cronin

      Also I know this seems a bit silly, but does anyone else feel like amar’e and JR couldn’t play together properly? jR often seemed to be ignoring amar’e, and he was terrible the entire time ama’re was healthy.

      While that was really dumb, I’d like to believe it was part of JR’s overall malaise of January-February and that it wouldn’t repeat if the two played together again.

    20. Brian Cronin

      By the way, how perfect are things working out vis a vis JR? His mid-season suckitude has likely made it so that no team will offer him more than what the Knicks can offer. If JR played like he has been playing recently all season long, there’s no way the Knicks would be able to keep him as he’d be getting offers for $7-8 million a year as good JR (as ephus likes to tell us) is a legit All-Star. So hooray for JR’s Jan/Feb malaise!

    21. DRed

      Who is in charge of the Knicks medical staff? I envision it being some Dr. Nick type figure who was a friend of guitar Jimmy’s and partied his way through med school.

    22. ruruland

      jon abbey:
      Ty Lawson out for the Nets game tonight.

      plantar fascia tear in his right heel. That’s not going away this year.

      Shouldn’t be a problem with Denver’s depth, right Owen?

    23. Brian Cronin

      So what, are you just officially not a Nuggets fan anymore? That’s fair enough, of course, but if you’re still a fan, that’s weird, since you’ve been ripping on them pretty hard lately.

    24. flossy

      Juany8: Also I know this seems a bit silly, but does anyone else feel like amar’e and JR couldn’t play together properly? jR often seemed to be ignoring amar’e, and he was terrible the entire time ama’re was healthy.

      Yeah, it always felt like JR passed to Amar’e as a last option and sometimes went out of his way *not* to pass to him. But then I read somewhere (and forgot where) that JR had assisted more of Amar’e's FGs than any other Knick, which I guess would be a function of them playing so many minutes together, but still seems odd. I don’t think I can even remember a single JR to Amar’e pass for an easy score.

    25. ruruland

      Brian Cronin:
      So what, are you just officially not a Nuggets fan anymore? That’s fair enough, of course, but if you’re still a fan, that’s weird, since you’ve been ripping on them pretty hard lately.

      Of course I’m a fan. Not ripping them either. Lawson, despite having a bad season statistically (which is an interesting convo) is the most irreplaceable player on that team for a few reasons.

      Theres a long list of somewhat prominent basketball writers who’ve tried to argue that the Nuggets don’t rely on an individual player, and because of their depth, skill malleability and style of play, can easily absorb loss of top rotation player.

      Silly.

      This great streak has coincided with Lawson and Chandler playing like all-stars. I’m not sure if Chandler can keep it up, but Lawson can, and he is the engine of that team even if he’s turning ball over and missing shots. He’s the guy who establishes that constant semi-transition game. While Miller is a great complement making all of those long passes, he does not start fast breaks.

    26. ruruland

      flossy: Yeah, it always felt like JR passed to Amar’e as a last option and sometimes went out of his way *not* to pass to him.But then I read somewhere (and forgot where) that JR had assisted more of Amar’e’s FGs than any other Knick, which I guess would be a function of them playing so many minutes together, but still seems odd.I don’t think I can even remember a single JR to Amar’e pass for an easy score.

      JR was definitely ignoring Amare on PnR. Can’t happen.

      The Knicks can get to another level offensively when Amare comes back if they run more of the offense through him, which often means patience in setting up multiple side pnrs.

      JR is breaking his bad habits. A JR/Melo/Amare/Chandler/Felton can be a ridiculously good offensive lineup. Melo and JR will have to defer a lot more and actually concentrate on making Amare the focus. I think it will happen. Melo’s largely made Amare the focus when they share the court ( his usage goes down quite a bit.

    27. jon abbey

      JR is still ignoring Novak, although it matters less when he is scoring like he has been the last couple of games.

    28. nicos

      Juany8:

      Also I know this seems a bit silly, but does anyone else feel like amar’e and JR couldn’t play together properly? jR often seemed to be ignoring amar’e, and he was terrible the entire time ama’re was healthy.

      I think JR just doesn’t like playing off of screens- in fact it seemed like more often than not he’d dribble away from the screen any time Amar’e tried setting one. I think it possible that JR’s so used to isolating and using the dribble to create space that he’s not comfortable with the extra traffic involved in the pnr. That said, he also didn’t seem overly eager to dump the ball into the post when Amar’e had good position either so maybe there is something there- JR is playing for a contract so having his role of first scoring option off of the bench usurped by Amar’e might have affected him either consciously or unconsciously.

    29. Keniman Shumpwalker

      flossy: But then I read somewhere (and forgot where) that JR had assisted more of Amar’e’s FGs than any other Knick, which I guess would be a function of them playing so many minutes together, but still seems odd.I don’t think I can even remember a single JR to Amar’e pass for an easy score.

      Yeah I read the same thing and found it really odd because I remember screaming at JR to pass STAT the damn ball many times. There was one game in particular, can’t remember which (maybe Pistons…Sixers…I dunno) where STAT dominated in the first half and then barely touched the ball in the 2nd half, largely because JR refused to dump it down to him in the post. It was infuriating. Especially so because JR was in major chuck and duck mode that night.

    30. Keniman Shumpwalker

      nicos: I think JR just doesn’t like playing off of screens- in fact it seemed like more often than not he’d dribble away from the screen any time Amar’e tried setting one.I think it possible that JR’s so used to isolating and using the dribble to create space that he’s not comfortable with the extra traffic involved in the pnr.That said, he also didn’t seem overly eager to dump the ball into the post when Amar’e had good position either so maybe there is something there- JR is playing for a contract so having his role of first scoring option off of the bench usurped by Amar’e might have affected him either consciously or unconsciously.

      I think you might be on to something here. When he does run the P N R, he’s pretty good at making that little pocket pass to the roll man or using the space to get to the rim, but he does turn it down an awful lot.

    31. Nick C.

      jon abbey:
      JR is still ignoring Novak, although it matters less when he is scoring like he has been the last couple of games.

      I’m not disagreeing, but it’s weird because I recall early in the season JR was quoted as saying the plan (re: the backups) was get the ball to Novak or that he looked for Novak. I think here some (or just me) commented on the odd friendship they appeared to have. Anyway, who cares when JR is playing like this, or more precisely it is a quibble.

    32. Keniman Shumpwalker

      Nick C.: I’m not disagreeing, but it’s weird because I recall early in the seasonJR was quoted as saying the plan (re: the backups) was get the ball to Novak or that he looked for Novak. I think here some (or just me) commented on the odd friendship they appeared to have. Anyway, who cares when JR is playing like this, or more precisely it is a quibble.

      I recall that as well (the part about JR talking about their unlikely friendship and how he’s always looking to get the ball to Novak). The problem is, I think JR lost faith in him. He’s not hitting at the same clip he was last year, obviously, and he’s also getting a lot more attention from defenses who are loathe to give him any space. Also, a lot of the threes Novak hit last year off of JR feeds were on the break and we simply haven’t consistently got out in the open court as much this year (which is one of the factors in our low TO rate). (I love parentheses).

    33. Brian Cronin

      Of course I’m a fan. Not ripping them either. Lawson, despite having a bad season statistically (which is an interesting convo) is the most irreplaceable player on that team for a few reasons.

      Theres a long list of somewhat prominent basketball writers who’ve tried to argue that the Nuggets don’t rely on an individual player, and because of their depth, skill malleability and style of play, can easily absorb loss of top rotation player.

      Silly.

      This great streak has coincided with Lawson and Chandler playing like all-stars. I’m not sure if Chandler can keep it up, but Lawson can, and he is the engine of that team even if he’s turning ball over and missing shots. He’s the guy who establishes that constant semi-transition game. While Miller is a great complement making all of those long passes, he does not start fast breaks.

      Sorry I didn’t reply to this earlier today. I was out and then I was at the game.

      Anyhow, good, I’m glad (I always like when people stick with their teams. It is why I couldn’t fathom when people wanted to jump ship after the Lin silliness). It just seemed weird that you didn’t post any comments about the Nuggets during their big win streak (though you replied to some comments by other people, of course) but then they lost to the Spurs by a point the other night and you posted

      Gallo choke. gaming metrics doesn’t look so good in a last shot situation when your number is called.

      That struck me as odd. And then you made the Lawson comment deriding the talk of the Nuggets’ depth and it made me think, “Wow, isn’t that pretty much what he always complains about Owen doing?” That it seemed like you were placing the whole “this proves my point!” approach over celebrating your favorite team’s victories/mourning their losses (like not “Oh crap, Lawson’s hurt!” but “Lawson’s hurt, this will show those people who talk about how good the Nuggets’ depth is!”). So I thought that maybe you weren’t following them anymore and that was why you were doing that.

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