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Knicks Morning News (Friday, Jun 29 2012)

  • [New York Post] Knicks fans may never see 2nd-rounder in N.Y. (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:33:18 -0500)
    It’s all Greek to Knicks fans who thought the club would take a step forward last night in the NBA Draft in trying to win now and build up their bench.
    It wasn’t worth the wait. With the witching hour approaching, the Knicks selected late last night unheralded…

  • [New York Post] Bird-rights appeal could settle soon (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:23:25 -0500)
    The union and the NBA are closing in on a settlement to end the league’s Bird-rights appeal. The two sides made substantial progress during its weeklong talks on the case involving Jeremy Lin and Steve Novak, according to a league source.As one league official said, “I’d be…

  • [New York Post] Kentucky teammates Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist top NBA Draft (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 04:23:25 -0500)
    The No. 1 pick in the NBA draft came from Kentucky. The No. 2 pick came from Kentucky. Plus No. 18. And No. 29. No wonder Kentucky won it all.
    The NCAA champion Wildcats became the first team in history to land the top two picks in the collegiate draft…

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks draft Kostas Papanikolaou 48th overall (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:09:20 GMT)
    Glen Grunwald, in his first draft as general manager, used the 48th overall pick to select Kostas Papanikolaou, a 6-foot-8 forward who plays for Olympiacos in his native Greece. Grunwald made the pick with the understanding that Papanikolaou may not come to the NBA for another two years.

  • [New York Newsday] Knicks pick Kostas Papanikolaou; sources: They're likely to win Lin, Novak cases (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:40:57 EDT)
    The Knicks appear to be headed to their second offseason victory in a week, and just in time for free agency.

  • [New York Times] Hornets Take Anthony Davis With Top Pick in Draft (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:33:44 GMT)
    The first two selections in the N.B.A. draft were Kentucky Wildcats, with Anthony Davis going to New Orleans and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist going to Charlotte.

  • [New York Times] Knicks’ Draft Pick Is Likely to Remain Overseas (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:47:21 GMT)
    The Knicks drafted Kostas Papanikolaou, a Greek forward, but he remains under contract with Olympiacos.

  • [New York Times] Pat Cummings, Rugged N.B.A. Forward, Dies at 55 (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:00:49 GMT)
    Cummings, a 12-season N.B.A. veteran, spent four seasons with the Knicks, averaging double-digit scoring in two of them.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Draft — Tyshawn Taylor of Kansas Obtained by Nets (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:22:02 GMT)
    The Nets, who are headed for Brooklyn from New Jersey, obtained the draft rights to Tyshawn Taylor, who was born in Hoboken and played point guard for Kansas.

  • [New York Times] Wade Needs Knee Surgery, Out of London Olympics (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:36:56 GMT)
    Miami Heat guard Dwyane Wade needs surgery on his ailing left knee and will not play in next month’s London Olympics.

  • [New York Times] Davis to Bring ‘Fear the Brow’ Craze to NBA’s Hornets (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:18:06 GMT)
    Apart from his dynamic defensive skills, the NBA’s top draft pick Anthony Davis will bring a new look to the New Orleans Hornets, where “Fear the brow” will likely become a battle-cry for the NBA team.

  • [New York Times] First Round Draft Picks (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:41:58 GMT)
    First round selections in the 2012 NBA Draft on Thursday at the Prudential Center

  • [New York Times] List of Top Draft Picks (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:12:21 GMT)
    Following is a list of number one picks in the NBA Draft. Anthony Davis was named the top overall pick by the New Orleans Hornets on Thursday.

  • [New York Times] New Orleans Swoop on Power Forward Davis (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:39:03 GMT)
    U.S. college player of the year Anthony Davis was taken with the number one pick of the 2012 NBA Draft by the New Orleans Hornets on Thursday at the Prudential Center.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Former Knicks Big Man Cummings Dead at 55 (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:19:02 GMT)
    Former Knicks big man Pat Cummings is being remembered for his shooting touch and love for life. He died on Wednesday, at age 55.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Who Should the Knicks Pick? (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:16:08 GMT)
    Scott Machado, William Buford, and Jae Crowder are all potential picks for the New York Knicks in the N.B.A. draft.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Nash to the Knicks? Not So Fast (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:08:51 GMT)
    Knicks fans serenaded Steve Nash about joining their team as a free agent during his annual charity soccer match in Manhattan. Nash, for his part, said he’s keeping his options open.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Grunwald: No potential rotation player at 48 (Fri, 29 Jun 2012 00:33:57 EDT)
    Ulf Duda/EB via Getty ImagesGlen Grunwald saw Kostas Papanikolaou as the Knicks’ best bet at 48.Kim English may have been the closest player to making some impact on the New York Knicks next season, based on his 45.9 percent 3-point shooting during his senior season at Missouri. But the Detroit Pistons selected him just four picks before the Knicks’ pick at 44.
    Once the Knicks were on the clock, GM Glen Grunwald didn’t believe any of the remaining draft prospects could cut next season’s rotation.

  • 54 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Friday, Jun 29 2012)

    1. SeeWhyDee77

      jon abbey: Howard Beck reported last night that an agreement to settle this will likely be worked out today or tomorrow, which will presumably let these 4-5 players keep their Bird rights, but not players in the same situation going forward, so NY will likely be OK on this.

      (that was from last thread

      Great news. I think now I’m gonna start wishin that Kaman soys it’s his dream to back Chandler up for 3 mil lol. I joke I joke I kid I kid!! Unfortunately there are really no bigs worth signing in free agency outside of Kaman, Landry and Bass..each out of our range. Last night I made a comment that we should throw our money at another big as insurance for Stat..but after lookin at the unrestricteds I can’t see that happening. Looks like we’re really gonna go hard after a vet PG, which unless it’s Kidd or Felton (leavin out Nash becuz I believe there’s no way he signs with NY..he’s still a star), I think we may be better served by bringin in Machado and Prigioni and letting them compete for minutes with Douglas. Douglas was crap last season I kno, but I believe we can get quality minutes behind Lin between those 3. Plus it’s always nice to develop a young guy for cheap (Machado). My worry for the immediate future is having a big man on the bench that we can trust other than Jorts as insurance for Stat. We’re gonna need that. I don’t think Stat is shot..but I do think there are things wrong with him that he’s too proud to address becuz of his salary and consistent denials. He doesn’t wanna let the fans down any further. But..my thing is get healthy and settle in ur role as second option. U may not get all the shots now, but u are still right up there among the best second options in the league!! We know he can go for 50 rite? We just need him there and productive…get healthy and accept ur role Stat..that is all..thanks

    2. 2FOR18

      Also, if Toronto amnesties Calderon so they can sign Nash, maybe we’d have a shot at him.

    3. JC Knickfan

      2FOR18:
      How about Reggie Evans for a big

      I suggest earlier also as he is polar opposite of Amare and can be had for the Vet min.

    4. yellowboy90

      I think I would rather them try and Get K-mart. I also would see what Sac will do with Thompson.

    5. JC Knickfan

      I just don’t think K-mart can be hand for vet min, but yeah I would take him over Evans.

      I’m pretty sure 3 mil MLE will be used on Guard. They can’t even use BAE without hitting the hard cap. You can confirm math, but Knicks resign Fields, Lin, Novak and Smith I think either be at or over 74 mil apron.

    6. JC Knickfan

      Laundry Fields AQ showing as $2,695,391 so we know he not going make any less then that.

      On July 2nd we can package TD, Josh Harrellson and $3 million for player making around $3 mil. Harrellson has non-guarantee contract and if team waive TD they actually make almost 1 million of the deal. It be pure salary dump of team, but there are quite a few player making around $3 range.

    7. ess-dog

      This is a good pick for a number of reasons. We can move Kostas to a team who wants young talent for a vet – along with a salary dump like TD – and it won’t eat up a roster spot for that team until they bring him over. Smart move.

    8. ephus

      If the Knicks hold on to the Early Bird rights for Lin and Novak (as the current reporting is saying), then I think there is an opportunity for the Knicks to move Amar’e to the Warriors. The Warriors have nearly $18 million in dead salary tied up in Jefferson and Biedrins, who are each now third string. I think the Knicks could offer to take one of the players, plus David Lee, in return for Amar’e.

      David Lee fits better on this Knick roster than Amar’e. His mid-range game gives better spacing, and he is a stronger defensive rebounder. If given my choice, I would rather take Jefferson than Biedrins, but I have a feeling that the Warriors would be more eager to send Biedrins out the door.

    9. johnlocke

      From what I’ve been reading doesn’t sound like the front office wants to move Amare just yet, they want to give him another year given his first year with the team and the extenuating circumstances this past season (injuries, death in family, extra weight, etc).

      Would not be in love w/ a David Lee for Amare deal….not a big fan of D.Lee or Biedrins. Jefferson may be washed up also.

      ephus:
      If the Knicks hold on to the Early Bird rights for Lin and Novak (as the current reporting is saying), then I think there is an opportunity for the Knicks to move Amar’e to the Warriors.The Warriors have nearly $18 million in dead salary tied up in Jefferson and Biedrins, who are each now third string.I think the Knicks could offer to take one of the players, plus David Lee, in return for Amar’e.

      David Lee fits better on this Knick roster than Amar’e.His mid-range game gives better spacing, and he is a stronger defensive rebounder.If given my choice, I would rather take Jefferson than Biedrins, but I have a feeling that the Warriors would be more eager to send Biedrins out the door.

    10. Loathing

      The ESPN rumor mill is reporting that the Blazers may not extend a QO to JJ Hickson…if that’s the case, what’s wrong with him for 3 mil?

    11. Frank

      Loathing:
      The ESPN rumor mill is reporting that the Blazers may not extend a QO to JJ Hickson…if that’s the case, what’s wrong with him for 3 mil?

      I think he’s more of a vet’s minimum guy. I think we need backcourt help with the mini-MLE. Front court is already pretty crowded with TC/Amare/Melo each probably playing 34 min/game leaving only 42 minutes frontcort minutes total for Novak, Jeffries, Harrellson, Jerome Jordan. Figure Novak gets at least 20 of those, Jeffries 10-15 min, and you’d be throwing your mini-MLE away on a 5-7 min/game guy. That’s not even counting lineups that play JR or Fields at the 3.

      We need either a backup point to give us 15 min/game who can also swing to the 2 while Shump gets healthy. Kidd would be great especially as a mentor to Lin, but I’d also love to see Hinrich.

      What would be most great is if Kidd would take the vet’s minimum. Not sure he gets mini-MLE from anyone at this point?

    12. 2FOR18

      Frank: I think he’s more of a vet’s minimum guy. I think we need backcourt help with the mini-MLE. Front court is already pretty crowded with TC/Amare/Melo each probably playing 34 min/game leaving only 42 minutes frontcort minutes total for Novak, Jeffries, Harrellson, Jerome Jordan.Figure Novak gets at least 20 of those, Jeffries 10-15 min, and you’d be throwing your mini-MLE away on a 5-7 min/game guy. That’s not even counting lineups that play JR or Fields at the 3.

      We need either a backup point to give us 15 min/game who can also swing to the 2 while Shump gets healthy.Kidd would be great especially as a mentor to Lin, but I’d also love to see Hinrich.

      What would be most great is if Kidd would take the vet’s minimum. Not sure he gets mini-MLE from anyone at this point?

      I think Lin is big and athletic enough to play some 2 if they can’t get a combo guard like Hinrich.

      I love the Amare for Lee/crap idea. I can see Lee coexisting better with melo since Lee doesn’t need the ball to be useful, and that would give us a great rebounding team. Plus Lee is younger/healthier. And I can see GS going for that too. Amare would be a good compliment to Bogut, and a Steph Curry/Amare PnR would be awesome.

    13. Frank

      2FOR18: I love the Amare for Lee/crap idea. I can see Lee coexisting better with melo since Lee doesn’t need the ball to be useful, and that would give us a great rebounding team. Plus Lee is younger/healthier. And I can see GS going for that too. Amare would be a good compliment to Bogut, and a Steph Curry/Amare PnR would be awesome.

      I don’t think there’s a chance in the world Amare gets dealt, but a RJ+Lee for Amare trade isn’t that bad. GS saves a ton of money long-term while probably buying low on Amare, and RJ fills a need as a backup wing who can shoot the 3. We’ll be above the cap/tax line through RJs contract so that’s fine, but it looks like Lee’s contract is a year longer than Amare?

      I’m sure J-Lin would love it – still calls Lee is his big bro.

    14. Frank

      wow – John Schuhmann just tweeted that Memphis is NOT going to offer OJ Mayo a qualifying offer. He just went to the very top of my wish list for the mini-MLE. He’ll probably get full MLE offers though. WOW.

    15. thenamestsam

      Frank:
      wow – John Schuhmann just tweeted that Memphis is NOT going to offer OJ Mayo a qualifying offer. He just went to the very top of my wish list for the mini-MLE.He’ll probably get full MLE offers though. WOW.

      Surprising, but not really an option for the Knicks I wouldn’t think. He’ll get offers for at least the full mid-level I’d imagine. I bet he ends up in Boston. That’s a perfect fit given that they could use some backcourt help, and especially could use shooting to fit with Bradley and Rondo.

    16. 2FOR18

      I love Mayo. I think some team (Nets, Clippers, Minn, Phoenix?) might throw a lot of $ at him. Or maybe the Heat will go after him if Allen falls through. Chi could really use him.

    17. JC Knickfan

      Mayo’s shooting numbers continued a downward trajectory, as he set career lows in shooting from the field, on 3s and at the line. He rank a mere 58th out of 66 shooting guards in TS%. That’s pretty ugly.

      I don’t know if it’s enough red flags not get at last a full MLE.
      He only 24 and did average about 18 ppg first 2 year in league so probably alot GM think he can make a turnaround.

      Knicks starting SG position is up for graps. So I think it make most sense spending MLE on SG.

    18. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      JC Knickfan:

      Knicks starting SG position is up for graps. So I think it make most sense spending MLE on SG.

      Which is why Denmon would have been an ideal pick. $500k for a guy who could end up giving you 20 mpg.

    19. Frank

      It probably comes down to JR vs. Mayo — and given Mayo will prob get a full MLE from someone and resigning JR won’t require using the MLE, I think I’d keep JR.

      I really have high hopes for JR this year. His playoff performance was obviously horrible, but there is no doubt he was asked to do way too much with our entire backcourt injured and out. I thought he played great in April on both ends of the floor – shot 42% from 3, TS 60, Assist rate 20, and did a solid job defending and rebounding the ball.

      So unless Mayo wants to come for the mini-MLE (which he most likely won’t), he’ll end up playing elsewhere.

    20. Frank

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: Which is why Denmon would have been an ideal pick. $500k for a guy who could end up giving you 20 mpg.

      I would’ve been ok with Denmon as the pick. But there’s no doubt Shump is the starting 2 guard and will probably play 35 min/game when he is healthy again.

      Again – for all we know maybe Denmon was 1 slot under Kostas on the Knicks draft board, and if some other team takes Kostas, we end up with Denmon. Can’t kill the result without seeing the whole draft board, especially since no one’s actually played any games yet!

      btw, sounds like Dejuan Blair is on the block. Surprisingly there are no takers. Can’t imagine why the God that is RC Buford would want to give him up.

    21. JC Knickfan

      When healthy is the big question for Shump. Also whoever starting SG spot next season is going get at least half season to proof he belongs in spot. If he does, even if healthy Shump would be coming off the bench and would need earn the spot back.

      Knicks have roster spot to fill so I’m thumb down not getting a player who could possible play now.

    22. TelegraphedPass

      Frank: btw, sounds like Dejuan Blair is on the block. Surprisingly there are no takers. Can’t imagine why the God that is RC Buford would want to give him up.

      Trapped between Diaw, Splitter, Red Rocket, and Duncan I think Blair fell out of favor with the Spurs.

    23. TelegraphedPass

      Honestly, I’d rather have JR than Mayo. I know Mayo is younger and shinier, but JR is a true sharpshooter. Earl is also an insane athlete, and isn’t bad at operating the pick-and-roll at all. His efficiency and role will be heavily dependant on the ability of our PGs. It’s beyond important that Lin stay healthy and has a skilled backup. If JR isn’t asked to handle the ball as much he would provide serious floor-spacing.

      His athleticism makes him a hyper-efficient cutter as well, but he doesn’t get to utilize that if he’s being asked to handle the ball due to the ineptitude of our point man. He’s a skywalker, so he’s also a target for lobs.

    24. ephus

      For all the reasons in @25, I would rather have JR Smith than OJ Mayo for this team.

      In addition, since the Grizzlies still have not yet renounced Mayo, they still hold his Bird Rights. If Mayo were only going to get the mini-MLE, it would make sense for him to stay with the Grizzlies for one more year at that price and hold on to his Bird Rights.

    25. 2FOR18

      Mayo actually has a slightly higher 3pt%, is 2 years younger, and isn’t a nut job. I’m kind of tired of hearing about JR’s athleticism and upside, and I’m tired of having knuckleheads on the team I root for. Having said that, it’s not really an either/or situation anyway, and JR at 2.8 mil is probably a good deal.

    26. Frank

      Across the board JR looks like a slightly better player. Defensively, he’s bigger than Mayo so can probably guard 1 through 3 if forced to, whereas Mayo can probably only check PG/SG.

      Re: the higher 3pt% — the “difference” between them is 6 3 pointers made per 1000 attempts, or roughly 1 3 pointer made, or roughly 1 extra 3 pointer made every 2.5 seasons. I think we can probably agree 37.5 and 36.9 is the same number.

      http://bkref.com/tiny/3p8CF

      Re: knuckleheadedness – I don’t think anyone is confusing Mayo with Steve Nash in terms of basketball savvy.

    27. JC Knickfan

      Since JR can get a 20% raise, I wouldn’t want use mini-MLE on him. If he doesn’t except that, Knicks should say GoodBye.

      Also for me bit hard watching his streaky shooting. I think it best he come off bench and possible play either guard spot. Plus he used to that role. Laundry effectively play himself out of starting lineup.

      So I still think we are in need for a starting SG.

    28. 2FOR18

      Agree that we can call their 3 pt. rates equal, but if JR’s claim to fame is being a sharpshooter, and he has the same 3pt rate as Mayo…..

      Just from watching him, JR seems like he’s either ice cold or red hot. I put value into knowing what you’re getting every night, and you have no idea what JR is going to do from minute to minute. He is exciting, but I find myself always hoping he doesn’t do something stupid.

    29. jon abbey

      2FOR18:
      Mayo actually has a slightly higher 3pt%, is 2 years younger, and isn’t a nut job.

      pretty sure Mayo’s a nut job too, actually.

    30. TelegraphedPass

      2FOR18: Mayo actually has a slightly higher 3pt%, is 2 years younger, and isn’t a nut job. I’m kind of tired of hearing about JR’s athleticism and upside, and I’m tired of having knuckleheads on the team I root for. Having said that, it’s not really an either/or situation anyway, and JR at 2.8 mil is probably a good deal.

      You wanna know what I’m really tired of? People making blanket statements about players they don’t know. Also, it’s getting absurd how many times we have to explain how good of a shooter JR typically is.

      JR Smith just had a down year shooting the three. He is still one of the very best in the league as a spot up shooter. JR Smith this season shot 39.5% on spot up threes. In a down season. OJ Mayo shot 38.6% percent on the same shot.

      JR Smith posted 1.07 PPP on spot up shooting this season after a rough start. OJ put up a significantly less efficient .99.

      OJ’s shooting percentages have trended downwards through his career. That’s not a concern?

      OJ Mayo also allowed .02 more points per possession on defense than JR Smith did this season, so it’s not like he’s some sort of dominant defender.

      And I’m really over blacklisting players as headcases. They are human beings. Why the hell is it ok to call JR a nut job? For what? His shot-selection? His Instagram?? He doesn’t have a spotless criminal record: He must be insane. Only insane people commit misdemeanors and DUIs, right? It’s despicable to me that in 2012, when we have so much more information about mental health than ever before, some people still resort to calling players mentally frail and nutjobs for doing regular human things. Piss all the way off.

    31. TelegraphedPass

      Arghh I got so worked up over that comment but I tried so hard not to swear so why is it awaiting moderation ughhhh

    32. 2FOR18

      I’m interested on any dirt about Mayo since I’m bored. The only bad thing I know about is that he got paid to play at USC. Now that’s not unusual, but it could indicate that he’s not too bright for getting caught

    33. TelegraphedPass

      Also, how long until we stop using box scores to make claims about players’ shooting ability and start to utilize Goldsberry’s (and others’) spacial analysis and Synergy’s fine work? Because it’s more than tiresome having to pull and individually analyze and point out why some players are far more efficient shooters than their box score percentages entail.

    34. 2FOR18

      TelegraphedPass:
      Also, how long until we stop using box scores to make claims about players’ shooting ability and start to utilize Goldsberry’s (and others’) spacial analysis and Synergy’s fine work? Because it’s more than tiresome having to pull and individually analyze and point out why some players are far more efficient shooters than their box score percentages entail.

      Sorry for being a trogoldyte and using 3pt%. If there are any advanced stats that say that JR is a much better shooter than Mayo I’m all ears. I say much better because JR’s “streakiness” and boneheaded plays wear me out, so he’d have to be a significantly better shooter than Mayo to balance that out for me,

    35. 2FOR18

      And hey, if you can use supercalifragilisticexpialidocious metrics like “true sharpshooter”, “insane athlete” “serious floor-spacing”, “athleticism”, “hyper-efficient cutter” and “skywalker”, then cut me some slack for using something abstract like “3pt. %”.

    36. JK47

      We still haven’t seen the real JR Smith as a Knick. At his best the dude is a .580+ TS%, .390+ 3P% player. He was way off that pace in last year’s chaotic season. This is an opportunity to buy low on JR. If he plays defense like he played last season and his shooting numbers return to form you’re looking at a pretty sick 2-guard.

    37. Frank

      JK47:
      We still haven’t seen the real JR Smith as a Knick.At his best the dude is a .580+ TS%, .390+ 3P% player.He was way off that pace in last year’s chaotic season.This is an opportunity to buy low on JR.If he plays defense like he played last season and his shooting numbers return to form you’re looking at a pretty sick 2-guard.

      And on top of the generalized chaos, he was asked to play PG and also be a primary scoring option at times. I think if you ask him to occasionally run a PNR it’s ok, but too many JR 1-on-1′s is not a great idea.

    38. BigBlueAL

      Looks like the Belgian League MVP Chris Copeland along with JR’s younger brother Chris Smith will play with Knicks Summer League team.

    39. thenamestsam

      Don’t know if anyone already posted this, but a very funny article about Jared Jeffries expert fishing:

      http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/20972/jeffries-takes-charge-on-the-open-water

      Mostly just a fluff piece (albeit an entertaining one) but one nugget of basketball info in there: when asked whether he plans to return to the Knicks JJ says he “would hate to leave right now” and adds:

      “I know that the Knicks are interested. I love New York. I’m still proud that I’ve been part of back-to-back playoffs. I feel like we made improvements this year as a team. That’s my ultimate goal. I want to improve, I want to get better. I want to be on a winning team, and I think we have a chance to do that.”

      Sounsd very promising for bringing him back.

    40. Frank

      Wow – looks like someone is doing JR and his brother a favor. Chris played at Mercer and only got 10 min/game at a small school. If that’s not a sign JR’s coming back, nothing is.

    41. thenamestsam

      Frank:
      Wow – looks like someone is doing JR and his brother a favor. Chris played at Mercer and only got 10 min/game at a small school.If that’s not a sign JR’s coming back, nothing is.

      Chris Smith? He played at Louisville.

    42. Frank

      Oops. There’s only 1 Chris Smith on Draftexpress and it’s the one from Mercer. I see now that Louisville’s Chris Smith played 27.5 min/game, averaged 10 points/game, shot 40% from 3. That makes more sense.

    43. thenamestsam

      Frank:
      Oops. There’s only 1 Chris Smith on Draftexpress and it’s the one from Mercer. I see now that Louisville’s Chris Smith played 27.5 min/game, averaged 10 points/game, shot 40% from 3.That makes more sense.

      He’s also a dead ringer for J.R., so that’s always fun. I saw him a few times and he was halfway decent. Reasonable summer league guy, but I agree with you that bringing him in is probably at least somewhat a goodwill gesture towards JR. Can’t hurt certainly.

      Also supposedly TD volunteered to play in summer league. Has to be a good sign that he realizes he needs to completely reearn his spot. I’m not giving up entirely on him. He was basically as bad as it’s humanly possible to be this past year, but it was a pretty horrible situation. It seems like the complete loss of his shot was probably at least partially due to injury, and then he was completely miscast as a Dantoni style PnR PG which seemed to mess with his head somewhat. If he can just refind his shot this offseason I still think he can be a useful guard off the bench as long as you let him do Toney Douglas stuff instead of trying to make him a PnR point.

    44. woolygator3

      @12 wasn’t it just a couple of years ago that Cleveland refused to include hickson in a potential deal for amare at the deadline? Oh how things have changed since then

    45. BigBlueAL

      Settlement reached, Lin/Novak keep their early Bird rights. Knicks and their fans celebrate lol

    46. ephus

      BigBlueAL:
      Settlement reached, Lin/Novak keep their early Bird rights.Knicks and their fans celebrate lol

      Wow! I have never been so happy to be wrong. Major credit to Mark Bartlestein and Jeffrey Kessler. They pressed the case despite the fact that the conventional wisdom (as distilled in cbafaq.com) was that a player claimed off of waivers had his Bird Rights clock reset to zero.

      The Knicks now get to keep Lin, keep Novak, sign another veteran at the mini-MLE, sign unlimited additional veteran’s at the vet’s minimum and avoid the hard cap. If the ruling had gone the other way, the Knicks would have had to use the MLE on Lin, said goodbye to Novak , had no mini-MLE and been limited to signing only veteran’s minimum players up to the $74 million hard cap.

      Can’t wait for Game 1.

    47. Frank

      How about this for a plan:
      Sign Camby to the mini-MLE for 2 years. Ask Jason Kidd to play for the vet’s minimum. That would be a very solid and deep team. One of the problems with our D last year is that Chandler couldn’t play too aggressively on defense because the whole defense would fall apart if he had to sit. Interior D on the 2nd unit was a big issue.

      That is, unless they think Jerome Jordan is really ready to contribute.

    48. ephus

      So the new rule will be that players claimed off of waivers who would have had Early Bird Rights or Full Bird Rights with their old team will have Early Bird Rights, and only players claimed through Amnesty will keep Full Bird Rights.

    49. JK47

      Help me here, capologists: how does JR Smith fit into this new cap reality? Will the Knicks be able to keep Lin, keep Novak, use the mini-MLE and also retain JR Smith? The Knicks are gonna need JR because we are paper thin at shooting guard, even with a healthy Shump.

    50. Frank

      JK47:
      Help me here, capologists: how does JR Smith fit into this new cap reality?Will the Knicks be able to keep Lin, keep Novak, use the mini-MLE and also retain JR Smith?The Knicks are gonna need JR because we are paper thin at shooting guard, even with a healthy Shump.

      Yes yes and yes. Lin and Novak are Early Bird exceptions and JR hopefully will be a non-Bird exception. So we will still have the mini-MLE. Can’t use either the full MLE or the biannual exception without triggering the hard cap though.

    51. JC Knickfan

      Frank:
      How about this for a plan:
      Sign Camby to the mini-MLE for 2 years. Ask Jason Kidd to play for the vet’s minimum. That would be a very solid and deep team. One of the problems with our D last year is that Chandler couldn’t play too aggressively on defense because the whole defense would fall apart if he had to sit. Interior D on the 2nd unit was a big issue.

      That is, unless they think Jerome Jordan is really ready to contribute.

      Jerome Jordon had nice PER given his scrap minutes. With preseason they better give him opportunity earn some playing time.

    52. JK47

      Jerome Jordan has now put up nice numbers overseas, in the D-League and in limited NBA minutes. His soft shooting touch seems to be for real– he shot 93.8% from the free throw line in the D-League and 80% from the line in the NBA.

      I hope he gets a chance, because I bet he’d be productive.

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