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		<title>By: KnickFanInCelticLand</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-morning-news-friday-feb-22-2013/#comment-421027</link>
		<dc:creator>KnickFanInCelticLand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-421019&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-421019&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Frank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.


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Extra red blood cells (blood doping) improves endurance while while platelets to get the growth factors supposedly stimulate healing.  However every unbiased study on this technique has proved it to be ineffective.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-421019" rel="nofollow">Frank</a></strong>:<br />
Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.</p>
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<p>Extra red blood cells (blood doping) improves endurance while while platelets to get the growth factors supposedly stimulate healing.  However every unbiased study on this technique has proved it to be ineffective.</p>
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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-421022&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Owen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Ruru – The offense ran through Joe Johnson. And the offense runs through Melo. Not sure what is so dissimilar about those two guys and the way they both play. It’s a lot of wing iso and spot up threes and both can lay claim to have been the centerpieces of some pretty efficient offenses, despite not being the most efficient players on the team. The Hawks had the second best offense in the league in 2009-10. And that was keyed to a large extent by a league leading turnover rate, much like the Knicks this year. Also, they shared a coach and played at almost exactly the same pace.The similarity seems pretty strong, despite the lack of a Ray Felton on the Hawks, and i think that’s been a pretty conscious effort by the Knicks FO and Woodson to emulate that system. Certainly, they could have gone a different direction after Lin showed up towards a more aggressive, fast paced, transition oriented offense. But they chose not to….

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I&#039;m not denying those similarities. Without going into greater detail at the moment, why not compare it to iso-Nowtizki, or iso-Durant/Westbrook. 

Both teams isolate more than the Knicks this year. 

At least in Dallas they had some semblance of pick and roll, played slow, etc/ 
It&#039;s just a really lazy comparison that really does delve into any substance at all. 

The whole Woodson &quot;likes isolation and wanted to bring his isolation system to New York&quot; is really stupid for a lot of reasons, but first when we consider that every team runs isolations in the half-court, and like most teams, the Knicks go to isolations when their continuity offense does not provide scores. 

You want less isolation? Have more players who can drive, pass and or post. Kidd and Chandler in the starting lineup have something to do with the lack of balance and need for more individual oriented, inside-out offense.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-421022" rel="nofollow">Owen</a></strong>:<br />
Ruru – The offense ran through Joe Johnson. And the offense runs through Melo. Not sure what is so dissimilar about those two guys and the way they both play. It’s a lot of wing iso and spot up threes and both can lay claim to have been the centerpieces of some pretty efficient offenses, despite not being the most efficient players on the team. The Hawks had the second best offense in the league in 2009-10. And that was keyed to a large extent by a league leading turnover rate, much like the Knicks this year. Also, they shared a coach and played at almost exactly the same pace.The similarity seems pretty strong, despite the lack of a Ray Felton on the Hawks, and i think that’s been a pretty conscious effort by the Knicks FO and Woodson to emulate that system. Certainly, they could have gone a different direction after Lin showed up towards a more aggressive, fast paced, transition oriented offense. But they chose not to….</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m not denying those similarities. Without going into greater detail at the moment, why not compare it to iso-Nowtizki, or iso-Durant/Westbrook. </p>
<p>Both teams isolate more than the Knicks this year. </p>
<p>At least in Dallas they had some semblance of pick and roll, played slow, etc/<br />
It&#8217;s just a really lazy comparison that really does delve into any substance at all. </p>
<p>The whole Woodson &#8220;likes isolation and wanted to bring his isolation system to New York&#8221; is really stupid for a lot of reasons, but first when we consider that every team runs isolations in the half-court, and like most teams, the Knicks go to isolations when their continuity offense does not provide scores. </p>
<p>You want less isolation? Have more players who can drive, pass and or post. Kidd and Chandler in the starting lineup have something to do with the lack of balance and need for more individual oriented, inside-out offense.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the centrifuge technique in cycling is for increasing your VO2max. That&#039;s blood doping. 

Whereas the platelet therapy Deron and others have pursued is to promote healing in injured joints....

Not sure though.....

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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-421021&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nick&#032;C&#046;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
+1

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the centrifuge technique in cycling is for increasing your VO2max. That&#8217;s blood doping. </p>
<p>Whereas the platelet therapy Deron and others have pursued is to promote healing in injured joints&#8230;.</p>
<p>Not sure though&#8230;..</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-421021" rel="nofollow">Nick&#32;C&#46;</a></strong>:<br />
+1</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ruru - The offense ran through Joe Johnson. And the offense runs through Melo. Not sure what is so dissimilar about those two guys and the way they both play. It&#039;s a lot of wing iso and spot up threes and both can lay claim to have been the centerpieces of some pretty efficient offenses, despite not being the most efficient players on the team. The Hawks had the second best offense in the league in 2009-10. And that was keyed to a large extent by a league leading turnover rate, much like the Knicks this year. Also, they shared a coach and played at almost exactly the same pace.  The similarity seems pretty strong, despite the lack of a Ray Felton on the Hawks, and i think that&#039;s been a pretty conscious effort by the Knicks FO and Woodson to emulate that system. Certainly, they could have gone a different direction after Lin showed up towards a more aggressive, fast paced, transition oriented offense. But they chose not to....

p.s. I would like to thank whichever poster made similar points in the past. Not an original observation....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruru &#8211; The offense ran through Joe Johnson. And the offense runs through Melo. Not sure what is so dissimilar about those two guys and the way they both play. It&#8217;s a lot of wing iso and spot up threes and both can lay claim to have been the centerpieces of some pretty efficient offenses, despite not being the most efficient players on the team. The Hawks had the second best offense in the league in 2009-10. And that was keyed to a large extent by a league leading turnover rate, much like the Knicks this year. Also, they shared a coach and played at almost exactly the same pace.  The similarity seems pretty strong, despite the lack of a Ray Felton on the Hawks, and i think that&#8217;s been a pretty conscious effort by the Knicks FO and Woodson to emulate that system. Certainly, they could have gone a different direction after Lin showed up towards a more aggressive, fast paced, transition oriented offense. But they chose not to&#8230;.</p>
<p>p.s. I would like to thank whichever poster made similar points in the past. Not an original observation&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-421019&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-421019&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Frank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-421019" rel="nofollow">Frank</a></strong>:<br />
Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowboy90</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-421019&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Frank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.


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That has been on my mind too. Also, I wonder why more players(maybe they do) do not do what T.O. did a have a personal hyperbaric chamber or like Anthony Gonzalez with his oxygen tent.

It is similar to blood doping but is legal. I guess blood doping is better though. IDK]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-421019" rel="nofollow">Frank</a></strong>:<br />
Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.</p>
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<p>That has been on my mind too. Also, I wonder why more players(maybe they do) do not do what T.O. did a have a personal hyperbaric chamber or like Anthony Gonzalez with his oxygen tent.</p>
<p>It is similar to blood doping but is legal. I guess blood doping is better though. IDK</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.</p>
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		<title>By: danvt</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing definitive if we win tonight.  If we lose, we&#039;re in full Michael Ray Richardson, &quot;The ship be sinkin&#039;&quot; mode.  After the last loss I was ready to give up hope, not just for this year, but for this nucleus of talent.  Please, someone give me a reason to expect better.  I&#039;ll accept a well articulated argument for the possibility that this team might play into the second round of the playoffs and extend that round to six or seven games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing definitive if we win tonight.  If we lose, we&#8217;re in full Michael Ray Richardson, &#8220;The ship be sinkin&#8217;&#8221; mode.  After the last loss I was ready to give up hope, not just for this year, but for this nucleus of talent.  Please, someone give me a reason to expect better.  I&#8217;ll accept a well articulated argument for the possibility that this team might play into the second round of the playoffs and extend that round to six or seven games.</p>
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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-421006&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Owen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
What are our offensive efficiency splits since Dec. 1? 


I agree our offensive is really ugly. And I blame Carmelo and Woodson for it. But that’s really more of an aesthetic problem, because our offense realistically has been ok even in this bad stretch. While we have tumbled to below average defensively we still are the third rated offense in the league. 


Woodson is doing the same thing he did in Atlanta, basically committing to a ground and pound offense with very low turnovers and a lot of threes. 


I don’t like watching it but it has been successful, even given the fact that we had some hot shooting to start the year. 


To me, the defense is a much bigger concern….


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Oh, Owen...

In Atlanta, Woodson lacked a creative, playmaking point guard. So the offense did not run through a point guard.

In New York, the Knicks lack the personnel to run a lot in transition, and play most of their basketball in the half court. That&#039;s probably why you think there&#039;s an aesthetic problem. 

IF you actually look across the league and study half-court offenses, the Knicks run much of what other teams run, some of this, some of that. 

There are better passing teams, teams with more creative point guards, teams with more playmaking balance, etc., teams with better finishing athletes, but the stuff is basically the same across the board.

San Antonio has the balance and passing at multiple positions, that their half-court &quot;execution&quot; is a bit better than everyone else&#039;s. 

But look at the Clippers. They play an &quot;ugly&quot; game when they aren&#039;t running -- a lot of Griffin post-ups, a lot of Paul isolations out of pick and roll. 

Thunder, same thing. Heat, same thing. Your favorite teams, Denver and Houston, basically same thing, though Houston runs a lot more pnr and plays a much better half-court game.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-421006" rel="nofollow">Owen</a></strong>:<br />
What are our offensive efficiency splits since Dec. 1? </p>
<p>I agree our offensive is really ugly. And I blame Carmelo and Woodson for it. But that’s really more of an aesthetic problem, because our offense realistically has been ok even in this bad stretch. While we have tumbled to below average defensively we still are the third rated offense in the league. </p>
<p>Woodson is doing the same thing he did in Atlanta, basically committing to a ground and pound offense with very low turnovers and a lot of threes. </p>
<p>I don’t like watching it but it has been successful, even given the fact that we had some hot shooting to start the year. </p>
<p>To me, the defense is a much bigger concern….</p>
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<p>Oh, Owen&#8230;</p>
<p>In Atlanta, Woodson lacked a creative, playmaking point guard. So the offense did not run through a point guard.</p>
<p>In New York, the Knicks lack the personnel to run a lot in transition, and play most of their basketball in the half court. That&#8217;s probably why you think there&#8217;s an aesthetic problem. </p>
<p>IF you actually look across the league and study half-court offenses, the Knicks run much of what other teams run, some of this, some of that. </p>
<p>There are better passing teams, teams with more creative point guards, teams with more playmaking balance, etc., teams with better finishing athletes, but the stuff is basically the same across the board.</p>
<p>San Antonio has the balance and passing at multiple positions, that their half-court &#8220;execution&#8221; is a bit better than everyone else&#8217;s. </p>
<p>But look at the Clippers. They play an &#8220;ugly&#8221; game when they aren&#8217;t running &#8212; a lot of Griffin post-ups, a lot of Paul isolations out of pick and roll. </p>
<p>Thunder, same thing. Heat, same thing. Your favorite teams, Denver and Houston, basically same thing, though Houston runs a lot more pnr and plays a much better half-court game.</p>
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		<title>By: KnickfaninNJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No our offense hasn&#039;t been OK.  As I mentioned before, if you look at the actual scores for our losses we score less than 90 points in almost all of them.  That&#039;s not a good number, no matter what the pace of the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No our offense hasn&#8217;t been OK.  As I mentioned before, if you look at the actual scores for our losses we score less than 90 points in almost all of them.  That&#8217;s not a good number, no matter what the pace of the game.</p>
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