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Knicks Morning News (Friday, Feb 22 2013)

  • [New York Times] Heat Win Ninth Straight, Tighten Grip on East (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:33:38 GMT)
    The Miami Heat tightened their grip on the Eastern Conference by routing the Chicago Bulls 86-67 on Thursday.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Beat Clippers 116-90 for 5th Straight Win (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:27:43 GMT)
    Tony Parker scored 31 points and the San Antonio Spurs led all the way in beating the Los Angeles Clippers 116-90 on Thursday night for their fifth straight victory and first over the Clippers this season.

  • [New York Times] Cheerleader Makes Front-Flip Half-Court Shot (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:37:19 GMT)
    Let’s see LeBron James do this.

  • [New York Times] Heat Defeat Bulls (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:28:00 GMT)
    LeBron James scored 26 points and grabbed 12 rebounds to lift the Miami Heat over the Chicago Bulls.

  • [New York Times] On Basketball: Older Players the Knicks Could Have Added by the Trade Deadline (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:09:13 GMT)
    The Knicks, who started the season as the oldest team in N.B.A. history, just got older, by adding the 35-year-old forward Kenyon Martin. Here are some players the Knicks could have added who go way back.

  • [New York Times] Magic Trade Redick, 2 Others to Bucks (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:07:02 GMT)
    When he first took over as Orlando’s general manager this past summer, Rob Hennigan was adamant that it would take a deliberate process to rebuild the team following the decision to trade All-Star center Dwight Howard.

  • [New York Times] Knicks Add Kenyon Martin at N.B.A. Trade Deadline (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:23:43 GMT)
    Ronnie Brewer was traded to Oklahoma City, and the Knicks agreed to terms with Kenyon Martin, 35, who was expected to sign a 10-day contract this weekend.

  • [New York Times] Lakers Owner Jerry Buss Remembered at Service (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:57:59 GMT)
    Magic Johnson considered himself to be the adopted son of Los Angeles Lakers owner Jerry Buss. Shaquille O’Neal hailed Buss for his foresight, while Kobe Bryant cited Buss’ ability to convince people to believe in him. Jerry West remembered a party-loving Buss who never went to bed, making it easy to be the first one at work in the morning.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Trade Deadline â?? Teams Deal Sidekicks, but Stars Stay Put (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:04:30 GMT)
    Two dozen players changed teams at the N.B.A. trading deadline, but no full-time starters were dealt, with J. J. Redick the most prominent player traded.

  • [New York Times] NBA Trade Deadline Features Only Minor Moves (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 01:01:03 GMT)
    The only trade involving Dwight Howard came last summer. The potent scorers that moved did so long ago.

  • [New York Times] Big NBA Names Stay Put on Dull Deadline Day (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 00:45:41 GMT)
    The big names rumored to be on the move at the National Basketball Association’s trade deadline went nowhere on Thursday as teams opted for tweaks over blockbusters.

  • [New York Daily News] Make room for Kenyon: Knicks deal Brewer to Thunder (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:36:48 GMT)
    The Knicks took yet another gamble on an injury-prone player on Thursday by signing Kenyon Martin, the No. 1 pick in the 2000 NBA draft and former Net, to a 10-day contract. The move came after the Knicks traded the Ronnie Brewer to the Thunder for a second-round pick and a trade exception.

  • [New York Daily News] Raissman: Woodson’s free pass may soon expire (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:06:50 GMT)
    MSG Network’s cameras lingered on Mike Woodson standing courtside Wednesday night in Indiana, exposing facial expressions normally not associated with a fearless leader. This was the face of a coach with intense media scrutiny in his future.

  • [New York Post] GM gets Martin, says Knicks can win it all (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:56:10 -0500)
    TORONTO â?? Knicks GM Glen Grunwald’s work is done. But are the Knicks done, too?
    Grunwald said he has built a team with a chance to break the club’s 40-year championship drought despite evidence to the contrary amid its recent doldrums. Grunwald did his final minor tinkering Thursday to…

  • [New York Post] No reason to believe Woody can turn ‘em around (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:35:26 -0500)
    TORONTO â?? We already know Glen Grunwald isn’t the type of general manager who courts attention or is prone to hyperbole. Heck, the guy acts as if he’d rather have root canal than speak publicly about the status of the Knicks.
    So we weren’t expecting he’d be…

  • [New York Post] Knicks staff fed up with Smith’s antics (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 03:03:12 -0500)
    TORONTO â?? J.R. Smith’s act is starting to wear thin on the Knicks’ coaching staff.
    Coach Mike Woodson, Smith’s most ardent supporter, ripped his sixth man and the club in general for losing their composure in Wednesday’s 125-91 disgraceful loss to the Pacers.
    Smith attempted to bait…

  • [New York Post] Starter-turned-benchwarmer Brewer traded to Thunder (Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:50:38 -0500)
    TORONTO â?? Amid injuries, Ronnie Brewer began the season as a starter and played a nice role in the Knicks’ 18-5 start. But soon he lost confidence in his 3-point shot and slid from starter to 15th man.
    Thursday Brewer got his wish as he was dealt at the trading deadline…

  • 24 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Friday, Feb 22 2013)

    1. SeeWhyDee77

      I like Joe Budden…but isn’t he like way too small to be a frontcourt player. And isn’t he havin problems with drugs and Tahyri? Whas that u say?? That’s not Joe Budden?? THAT’S KENYON MARTIN?? O my bad..hope he’s healthy and in shape. I have less of a problem with adding Martin now that I know Jermaine O’Neal isn’t getting bought out. Hopefully we now have enough backup bigs to piece together some rest for Chandler and Stat..even with injury. I will admit the fact that we now have 3 microfracture surgery patients on our roster scares me. Especially when the youngest one is 30

    2. Frank O.

      By the way, I can feel myself beginning to spiral into a weird sense of helplessness about these Knicks.
      The offense is too Melo-focused. Ball movement is off. They haven’t adjusted to their drop off in 3 pt shooting percentage. They don’t use the PnR as much as they once did, which is probably why assists are down…along with poorer 3 pt shooting.
      We have three very good rollers. How is it they aren’t running PnRs more?
      And one last point. In the early 18-5 run, these knicks were defense-focused, which fed their offense.
      Right now our perimeter defense is pretty terrible and it’s putting immense pressure on our bigs in the paint. Felton is unable to defend quick guards, Shump is a step slow still, and Kidd is walking through mud.
      That’s a recipe for a long season.
      Ray Felton, I fear is reverting to bad Ray, and it mostly may result from injury.

    3. Frank O.

      Brian Cronin:
      It is absolutely amazing that Smith actually said that to someone. Moreover, the fact that I’m sure he gets laid plenty off of that line is hilarious.

      Yeah, I mean, in professional athlete circles that line constitutes trying hard…

    4. Frank O.

      Sadly, I believe in the second half of the season, unless our guard start showing something, the Knicks are getting the “pipe.”
      It also could become a euphemism for when JR appears to be unfocused.

      like in a circumstance where JR has taken a host of fall aways and long threes to no effect: JR’s thinking about his pipe.

    5. Frank O.

      Brian Cronin:
      “Why yes, I am, indeed, trying to get the pipe. Would you like to meet after the game to pursue this?”

      “Of course, you cannot get the pipe at age 15. This would be illegal and unethical.”

    6. Frank

      I went back and watched some parts of the games recently and – I hate to say it – but I’m starting to agree a little with hoolahoop. This offense is really ugly right now, and the only thing that has rescued it for last month+ is when Melo goes absolutely nuts. There was about a week during which Amare was unstoppable in the post, but that seems to have faded too.

      And it goes back to what a few people, including Grunwald on the Michael Kay show, have said – the league (or at least the better teams – I’m not really looking at the sacramento and detroit games) has adjusted to the Knicks’ attack, and Woodson etc. have not evolved. I’m not smart enough to know exactly how, but they’re shutting down the high PNR and after that fizzles, it turns into iso-Melo or iso-JR.

      Woodson needs to come up with some counters to what other teams are doing. Maybe there’s not a lot to do against a team like Indiana — they are just so solid defensively.

    7. Frank O.

      Frank:
      I went back and watched some parts of the games recently and – I hate to say it – but I’m starting to agree a little with hoolahoop.This offense is really ugly right now, and the only thing that has rescued it for last month+ is when Melo goes absolutely nuts.There was about a week during which Amare was unstoppable in the post, but that seems to have faded too.

      And it goes back to what a few people, including Grunwald on the Michael Kay show, have said – the league (or at least the better teams – I’m not really looking at the sacramento and detroit games) has adjusted to the Knicks’ attack, and Woodson etc. have not evolved. I’m not smart enough to know exactly how, but they’re shutting down the high PNR and after that fizzles, it turns into iso-Melo or iso-JR.

      Woodson needs to come up with some counters to what other teams are doing.Maybe there’s not a lot to do against a team like Indiana — they are just so solid defensively.

      The knock on Woodson in the past has been unimaginative offenses. When he got here, he essentially left a lot of what D’Antoni did in the playbook, and that worked for a time, but he hasn’t adjusted much and the easy answer has always been ISO.
      I think it is more about personnel. I think our guards are dinged up, again, which has a cascading effect. Worse, our guards are shooting poorly as well.
      The failure recently, as it was last year, is our guards’ inability to contain on defense, and or shoot and penetrate on offense.
      If that is working, the rest falls in place. Without them playing well, the rest kind of falls apart.
      Then we have the Melo show. And then Melo gets blamed for shooting too much, running to many ISOs, and generally not winning.
      Look no further than our guard rotation.

    8. Owen

      What are our offensive efficiency splits since Dec. 1?

      I agree our offensive is really ugly. And I blame Carmelo and Woodson for it. But that’s really more of an aesthetic problem, because our offense realistically has been ok even in this bad stretch. While we have tumbled to below average defensively we still are the third rated offense in the league.

      Woodson is doing the same thing he did in Atlanta, basically committing to a ground and pound offense with very low turnovers and a lot of threes.

      I don’t like watching it but it has been successful, even given the fact that we had some hot shooting to start the year.

      To me, the defense is a much bigger concern….

    9. KnickfaninNJ

      No our offense hasn’t been OK. As I mentioned before, if you look at the actual scores for our losses we score less than 90 points in almost all of them. That’s not a good number, no matter what the pace of the game.

    10. ruruland

      Owen:
      What are our offensive efficiency splits since Dec. 1?

      I agree our offensive is really ugly. And I blame Carmelo and Woodson for it. But that’s really more of an aesthetic problem, because our offense realistically has been ok even in this bad stretch. While we have tumbled to below average defensively we still are the third rated offense in the league.

      Woodson is doing the same thing he did in Atlanta, basically committing to a ground and pound offense with very low turnovers and a lot of threes.

      I don’t like watching it but it has been successful, even given the fact that we had some hot shooting to start the year.

      To me, the defense is a much bigger concern….

      Oh, Owen…

      In Atlanta, Woodson lacked a creative, playmaking point guard. So the offense did not run through a point guard.

      In New York, the Knicks lack the personnel to run a lot in transition, and play most of their basketball in the half court. That’s probably why you think there’s an aesthetic problem.

      IF you actually look across the league and study half-court offenses, the Knicks run much of what other teams run, some of this, some of that.

      There are better passing teams, teams with more creative point guards, teams with more playmaking balance, etc., teams with better finishing athletes, but the stuff is basically the same across the board.

      San Antonio has the balance and passing at multiple positions, that their half-court “execution” is a bit better than everyone else’s.

      But look at the Clippers. They play an “ugly” game when they aren’t running — a lot of Griffin post-ups, a lot of Paul isolations out of pick and roll.

      Thunder, same thing. Heat, same thing. Your favorite teams, Denver and Houston, basically same thing, though Houston runs a lot more pnr and plays a much better half-court game.

    11. danvt

      Nothing definitive if we win tonight. If we lose, we’re in full Michael Ray Richardson, “The ship be sinkin’” mode. After the last loss I was ready to give up hope, not just for this year, but for this nucleus of talent. Please, someone give me a reason to expect better. I’ll accept a well articulated argument for the possibility that this team might play into the second round of the playoffs and extend that round to six or seven games.

    12. Frank

      Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.

    13. yellowboy90

      Frank:
      Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.

      That has been on my mind too. Also, I wonder why more players(maybe they do) do not do what T.O. did a have a personal hyperbaric chamber or like Anthony Gonzalez with his oxygen tent.

      It is similar to blood doping but is legal. I guess blood doping is better though. IDK

    14. Nick C.

      +1

      Frank:
      Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.

    15. Owen

      Ruru – The offense ran through Joe Johnson. And the offense runs through Melo. Not sure what is so dissimilar about those two guys and the way they both play. It’s a lot of wing iso and spot up threes and both can lay claim to have been the centerpieces of some pretty efficient offenses, despite not being the most efficient players on the team. The Hawks had the second best offense in the league in 2009-10. And that was keyed to a large extent by a league leading turnover rate, much like the Knicks this year. Also, they shared a coach and played at almost exactly the same pace. The similarity seems pretty strong, despite the lack of a Ray Felton on the Hawks, and i think that’s been a pretty conscious effort by the Knicks FO and Woodson to emulate that system. Certainly, they could have gone a different direction after Lin showed up towards a more aggressive, fast paced, transition oriented offense. But they chose not to….

      p.s. I would like to thank whichever poster made similar points in the past. Not an original observation….

    16. Owen

      I think the centrifuge technique in cycling is for increasing your VO2max. That’s blood doping.

      Whereas the platelet therapy Deron and others have pursued is to promote healing in injured joints….

      Not sure though…..

      Nick C.:
      +1

    17. ruruland

      Owen:
      Ruru – The offense ran through Joe Johnson. And the offense runs through Melo. Not sure what is so dissimilar about those two guys and the way they both play. It’s a lot of wing iso and spot up threes and both can lay claim to have been the centerpieces of some pretty efficient offenses, despite not being the most efficient players on the team. The Hawks had the second best offense in the league in 2009-10. And that was keyed to a large extent by a league leading turnover rate, much like the Knicks this year. Also, they shared a coach and played at almost exactly the same pace.The similarity seems pretty strong, despite the lack of a Ray Felton on the Hawks, and i think that’s been a pretty conscious effort by the Knicks FO and Woodson to emulate that system. Certainly, they could have gone a different direction after Lin showed up towards a more aggressive, fast paced, transition oriented offense. But they chose not to….

      I’m not denying those similarities. Without going into greater detail at the moment, why not compare it to iso-Nowtizki, or iso-Durant/Westbrook.

      Both teams isolate more than the Knicks this year.

      At least in Dallas they had some semblance of pick and roll, played slow, etc/
      It’s just a really lazy comparison that really does delve into any substance at all.

      The whole Woodson “likes isolation and wanted to bring his isolation system to New York” is really stupid for a lot of reasons, but first when we consider that every team runs isolations in the half-court, and like most teams, the Knicks go to isolations when their continuity offense does not provide scores.

      You want less isolation? Have more players who can drive, pass and or post. Kidd and Chandler in the starting lineup have something to do with the lack of balance and need for more individual oriented, inside-out offense.

    18. KnickFanInCelticLand

      Frank:
      Here’s a question: how is the platelet rich plasma they are giving all the players now not basically the same as the blood doping that cyclists used to do (they would bleed themselves into bags then reinject price to races to increase oxygen carrying capacity)? As far as I can tell, PRP is taking your blood, spinning it to separate the platelets (which have growth factors) and re injecting it.

      Extra red blood cells (blood doping) improves endurance while while platelets to get the growth factors supposedly stimulate healing. However every unbiased study on this technique has proved it to be ineffective.

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