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Knicks Morning News (Friday, Apr 12 2013)

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Release cruel twist for Thomas (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:11:48 GMT)
    The next time you hear a team owner, executive or player say “We’re a family,â? just remember the unfortunate ending to Kurt Thomas’ career.    

  • [New York Daily News] Raissman: Knicks’ ratings bear watching (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 05:30:19 GMT)
    In a state of euphoria, Stephen A. Smith opened his ESPN-98.7 extravaganza by chanting, “Go New York, Go New York, Go.â? This was Wednesday, the day after the Knickerbockers clinched the Atlantic Division crown.    

  • [New York Daily News] KRYPTONATE: Knicks’ 13-game win streak ends as Bulls, Robinson stun in OT (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 03:28:59 GMT)
    Undermanned, frustrated and running on fumes, Mike Woodson’s team rallied to force overtime Thursday night, but after 53 minutes of basketball the Chicago Bulls proved once again that they are, without a doubt, the one team that has the Knicks’ number.    

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Singleton in,Thomas out (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 01:11:23 GMT)
    James Singleton was in town last night but unavailable to play because he still hadn’t signed a contract with the Knicks. The club is expected to release veteran forward Kurt Thomas and add Singleton.    

  • [New York Post] 5 Questions for Steve Kerr (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 04:20:04 -0500)
    Tnt analyst Steve Kerr talks with The Post’s Justin Terranova about the Knicks’ winning streak, what they have to do with Amar’e Stoudemire and their likely first-round matchup against the Celtics.

    Q: How have the Knicks come out of their midseason struggles to discover their early-season success?

    A…

  • [New York Post] Ex-Knick Nate erupts for 35 to end it at 13 (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 03:46:31 -0500)
    CHICAGO â?? The way this magical Knicks streak and magical Carmelo Anthony surge had unfolded, Anthony’s last-second shot from the left of the key in regulation seemed destined to fall.
    But the Knicks’ run of fortune ran out in Chitown as well as Anthony’s brilliance. Instead, on a night…

  • [New York Post] Melo: Don’t rush Rose back (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 02:02:26 -0500)
    CHICAGO â?? Carmelo Anthony said Thursday Bulls point guard Derrick Rose shouldn’t come back this season if he’s not “110 percent” and wishes fans would be more patient with him.
    Rose, who tore his left ACL on the same day as the Knicks’ Iman Shumpert, April 28, 2012, is…

  • [New York Post] Knicks get â??big’ help (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 02:02:13 -0500)
    CHICAGO â?? While the Knicks officially will add 6-foot-8 forward James Singleton Friday, the club hasn’t ruled out Kenyon Martin for Sunday’s game against Indiana.
    When Glen Grunwald signed Martin in late February, the Knicks general manager said the club would have enough insurance in the big-man department to…

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Notebook: Different start, familiar end (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 01:09:08 EDT)
    CHICAGO — It was a taste of their own medicine as the New York Knicks were finally defeated by some sharp shooting.

    The Chicago Bulls’ Nate Robinson hit 10 of his 18 shots Thursday, including 5 of his 11 from 3-point range, as the Knicks fell 118-111 in overtime. The defeat ended their 13-game winning streak, which stands as the fourth longest in the NBA this season.

    During the length of their win streak, the Knicks had led the NBA in 3-point shooting, at 42.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Knicks press reset after seeing streak end (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 00:37:59 EDT)
    CHICAGO — Perhaps the road to the Eastern Conference finals starts with the kind of streak-ending defeat the New York Knicks suffered on Thursday.
    It’s twisted logic indeed, but after all, the end of the Knicks’ 13-game winning streak came in the same venue where the Miami Heat saw their 27-game winning streak end just two weeks prior. And it’s not as if the Heat’s title chances took a serious blow.

    In losing for the first time since March 27 in Los Angeles against the Clippers, the Knicks will merely hit the reset button.

  • [New York Times] Bulls Stop Knicks Streak at 13 With 118-111 OT Win (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:47:40 GMT)
    Suddenly, Chicago is the place where long winning streaks go to die.    

  • [New York Times] Thunder Whip Warriors 116-97 Behind Durant (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:26:39 GMT)
    Russell Westbrook blocked Stephen Curry’s layup, Kevin Durant corralled the ball and dribbled down court. He threw down a soaring dunk at full extension, then pretended to slice his throat and crossed his hands in prayer.    

  • [New York Times] Bulls Stop Knicks Streak at 13 With 118-111 OT Win (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 04:44:33 GMT)
    The win streak’s over. Bigger goals remain in play.    

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Basketball: Heat’s Dwyane Wade Plans Return Against Boston (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 04:26:44 GMT)
    Dwyane Wade plans to return to the Miami lineup Friday against Boston, after missing six straight games because of soreness in his right knee.    

  • [New York Times] Bulls 118, Knicks 111 (OT): Nate Robinson Helps Bulls End Knicks’ Winning Streak (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 03:49:32 GMT)
    Nate Robinson, the Chicago Bulls’ sprightly 5-foot 9-inch guard, exploded for 35 points, including 8 in overtime, sending the Knicks to their first loss since March 17.    

  • [New York Times] John J. Farmer Jr. Named Senior Vice President at Rutgers (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 02:04:36 GMT)
    John J. Farmer Jr., the dean of Rutgers School of Law-Newark since 2009, will replace John B. Wolf, who resigned last week amid a basketball scandal.    

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Changing Coaches Changed Nets Late in Games (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 00:37:47 GMT)
    Avery Johnson was 3-4 in games decided by 5 or fewer points this season, but in P.J. Carlesimo’s first 28 games the Nets were 9-0 in such games, a significant swing.    

  • [New York Newsday] Knicks fall to Bulls in overtime; winning streak ends at 13 (Fri, 12 Apr 2013 01:23:19 EDT)
    The Knicks' longest winning streak in 19 years ended Thursday night. Now you wonder if they'll be able to avoid their first losing streak in nearly a month.

  • 30 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Friday, Apr 12 2013)

    1. KnickfaninNJ

      That’s an excellent question. But it may reflect the fact that the Knick’s bench was much weaker than usual and so the team on the floor was weaker than our usual bench. Also, Nate Robinson torched the Knicks last night and he probably played most of his minutes with JR on the floor instead of Carmelo

    2. thenamestsam

      Knicks sign Solomon Jones for the rest of the year. Anybody have any kind of scouting report on this guy?

    3. Hubert Davis

      Yeah, Wojnarowski is reporting deal for Singleton fell through.

      I wish we could just sign anyone to play 35 minutes of garbage time down the stretch.

    4. er

      thenamestsam: Knicks sign Solomon Jones for the rest of the year. Anybody have any kind of scouting report on this guy?

      i think i remember him being pretty solid, and i think he is at least 6’10 unlike singleton

    5. TDM

      Why Solomon Jones? It’s too bad they did not call up Henry Sims from the D-League before he got plucked by NO. Even Jerome Jordan would have added some nice depth in that he can rebound and block shots.

    6. Hubert Davis

      Was Earl Barron available?

      Seriously, no one we add now is going to matter. All we need is someone who can play 35 minutes tonight and in Charlotte instead of one of our starters.

      Singleton seemed more likely to fill that role.

    7. Brian Cronin

      That’s too bad, I was actually getting quite interested in Singleton. Could it possibly be that Singleton had enough options that he didn’t have to agree to Grunwald’s patented “Non-guaranteed option year” contracts? After all, Singleton didn’t re-sign with Washington in part because he could make so much more money in China, so perhaps that was an issue here, as well.

      Solomon Jones is strictly bench fodder. Singleton at least had some theoretical upside.

    8. KnickfaninNJ

      It seems unlikely that the Knicks would insist on re-signability when signing anyone at this point in the season. My guess would be the opposite. Singleton or his agent didn’t want him to risk an injury that would make him unemployable next year for a simple ten day contract. If I am right, they would then have insisted on some confidence of income next year if that happened and Grunwald might have been reluctant to give that assurance. Given what I read about him, I think that assurance might have been worth it for the Knicks. Because he certainly sounded employable in the NBA and/or China. But the limited stats on the web about Singleton don’t make him sound much better than James White, except that he’s taller and gets a few more blocks.

    9. Brian Cronin

      Re-signability is important to the Knicks because of Grunwald’s trick of trading un-guaranteed contracts for guaranteed contracts, thereby allowing the other team to shed payroll and the Knicks to pick up good players for bad players. Like they did with Gadzuric last season.

    10. d-mar

      Just listening to Stephen A. say that the Knicks struggle against the Bulls because of the Bulls physical play and their ability to defend the 3 point line. Do these guys even watch the games? The Knicks were missing wide open shots the whole 4th quarter, it had nothing to do with the Bulls defense. And they did score 111 points.

      Just the usual case of trying to fit the narrative – Knicks rely too much on 3′s, Bulls don’t allow 3′s, therefore the Knicks can’t beat the Bulls.

    11. KnickfaninNJ

      Brian,

      I understand what you mean about re-signability. I’m not arguing with that. I’m suggested that Singleton wanted some guarantee of income for more than just this season in case of injury. Grunwald’s preferred type of contract doesn’t give that. Maybe that was the sticking point.

    12. mr front row

      Having done a bit of due diligence has led me to the discovery that solomon jones may be a woodson request. seeing how he started his career with the hawks during woody’s tenure.. That would defensively make a rapid transition. He would know some of the plays. Im sure mike could get the most out of him..Time 2 let james white go and bring in another body..i have a bad feeling about tyson..

    13. Brian Cronin

      Brian,

      I understand what you mean about re-signability. I’m not arguing with that. I’m suggested that Singleton wanted some guarantee of income for more than just this season in case of injury. Grunwald’s preferred type of contract doesn’t give that. Maybe that was the sticking point.

      Oh, gotcha. Yes, I totally agree. That’s what I think happened, as well.

    14. BigBlueAL

      Saw a tweet that said Singelton couldnt get a letter of clearance from his Chinese team.

      Looking at Jones for his career not horrible, certainly just a backup but numbers could be worse. Has played in 16 playoff games too (all with the Hawks under Woodson early in his career).

    15. flossy

      http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/58126/courtvision-so-this-is-what-carmelo-anthonys-prime-looks-like?ex_cid=facebook

      Nice piece from Goldsberry on the changes in Melo’s scoring patterns this year. Seems to support both the notion that a player of Melo’s talents can choose a more efficient approach to scoring (by shooting 3s instead of long 2s, for instance), but also that this choice doesn’t occur in a vacuum, and that the abilities of one’s teammates determine whether or not, or at least to what extent, the chosen approach succeeds.

    16. sidestep

      d-mar:
      Just listening to Stephen A. say that the Knicks struggle against the Bulls because of the Bulls physical play and their ability to defend the 3 point line. Do these guys even watch the games? The Knicks were missing wide open shots the whole 4th quarter, it had nothing to do with the Bulls defense. And they did score 111 points.

      Just the usual case of trying to fit the narrative – Knicks rely too much on 3?s, Bulls don’t allow 3?s, therefore the Knicks can’t beat the Bulls.

      I give a lot of credit to Butler denying Melo the ball on many occasions, and taking him out of his comfort zone.

      As for Chicago defending 3s, it’s not a matter of either/or. The Knicks offense is going to get their 3 attempts no matter what. At the same time, it is well known that Chicago defense tries to deny corner 3s as much as possible.

      Eg, if there is dribble penetration, the Bulls defender near the corner will not collapse as many defenses do, but but will stick to his guy in the corner.

      I thought one play in the last game was particularly interesting. There was a hockey pass sequence going from Cope at the top, to Felton at the wing, and finally to Kidd in the corner. Once Cope started his hockey-pass to Felton, the defender closest to Felton was Hinrich but Hinrich did NOT close out Felton. Instead, Hinrich started to close out Kidd in the corner, not when the ball was one pass away but when the ball was two passes away! The defender who closed out Felton was actually Boozer, even though he was farther away from Felton than Hinrich. The possession ended with a great challenge of Kidd’s 3 by Hinrich and Kidd missed. If you have the tape, watch it at 11:25 left in 4th quarter.

    17. yellowboy90

      sidestep:
      Here are screenshots of what I’m talking about.

      http://imageshack.us/a/img11/8527/nba20130411knicksbulls7.png

      http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8527/nba20130411knicksbulls7.png

      Boozer leaves the corner to close out Felton, which induces Felton to
      pass to Kidd in the corner. Hinrich starts to close out Kidd way before Kidd even receives the pass. These defensive rotations anticipate the hockey pass before it even starts.

      I believe battier talk about this earlier in the year after Miami’s game against the bulls. Weak side dribble penetration would have hurt the Bulls especially without Noah

    18. sidestep

      yellowboy90: I believe battier talk about this earlier in the year after Miami’s game against the bulls.Weak side dribble penetration would have hurt the Bulls especially without Noah

      What did Battier say?

    19. johnlocke

      The Bulls were funneling their rotations toward our weakest outside shooter (Kidd) all game and in some cases he did the Landry Fields and passed up the open shot, which killed the ball movement or actually took the shot and bricked. If a player is so cold from the outside and doesn’t have the ability to penetrate effectively, he becomes a liability in the Knicks offense, esp when there is no big-man PnR threat. The other thing the Knicks could have done besides subbing Kidd for Novak (who only played 12 minutes to Kidd’s 37 minutes), would have been to employ more ball fakes, and either take the shot or drive (as Copeland could have done in your attached pics) to get the Bulls to think twice about anticipating the swing pass

      sidestep:
      Here are screenshots of what I’m talking about.

      http://imageshack.us/a/img11/8527/nba20130411knicksbulls7.png

      http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8527/nba20130411knicksbulls7.png

      Boozer leaves the corner to close out Felton, which induces Felton to
      pass to Kidd in the corner. Hinrich starts to close out Kidd way before Kidd even receives the pass. These defensive rotations anticipate the hockey pass before it even starts.

    20. d-mar

      sidestep:
      Here are screenshots of what I’m talking about.

      http://imageshack.us/a/img11/8527/nba20130411knicksbulls7.png

      http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8527/nba20130411knicksbulls7.png

      Boozer leaves the corner to close out Felton, which induces Felton to
      pass to Kidd in the corner. Hinrich starts to close out Kidd way before Kidd even receives the pass. These defensive rotations anticipate the hockey pass before it even starts.

      I sort of get what you’re saying, but it makes it a lot easier to defend the perimeter when no one like Chandler is diving to the hoop. And while I understand the corner 3 is more makeable than others, the Knicks missed a whole bunch of wide open 3′s from the top in the 2nd half. I can’t imagine crazy Thibs was happy about all those open shots (and 111 points)

    21. yellowboy90

      sidestep: What did Battier say?

      If I remember correctly he just mentioned how their scheme threw them off because they were by passing the wing and going to the corner. I can’t remember the rest.

      also like Johnlocke was saying I too had flashbacks of Fields with Kidd out there. I know Shump is not the best finisher at the rim but he is better than Kidd and shoots better. Ny needed someone to attack Boozer’s weak close outs.

      I know people are scared of the Bulls but I think they will be an easy out in the playoffs given prep time.

    22. sidestep

      yellowboy90: ” NY needed someone to attack Boozer’s weak close outs.” This.

      Thanks for that Battier snippet. That nicely summarizes what took me so many words to describe.

    23. johnlocke

      Since our offense revolves so much around the three pointer (we just broke the record for most made in a season)..I’ve been thinking about whether the mantra “live by the three, die by the three” is actually supported by statistics / facts or just something people like to say. Specifically, how variable / dependable is three point shooting %, and does it vary by team from the regular season to the post season?

      I couldn’t find one source that had this information in one place to do a comparison and don’t have the time to compile and analyze the data, but pulled a few stats (interesting, though not conclusive) that I thought were interesting. My initial observation — three point shooting can be variable across teams/match ups and definitely in pre-season versus playoffs. The Knicks are shooting 38% for the season.

      Knicks three point percentages versus potential playoff opponents this season: (Heat – 43%), (Celtics – 38%); Bulls (36%); Pacers (22%). Perhaps indicates home court against Pacers is essential?

      3pt% at home (39%); 3 pt % on the road (36%)

      Last year, we shot 34% during the season and 28% in the playoffs.

      Only three teams shot better in the playoffs last year than during the season (SA – 42% v 39%); Clippers (38% v 36%), (Dallas 37% v 34%). Biggest upside was +6%.

      Utah had the biggest decline in playoffs versus season at -12%, Knicks had the 2nd worst decline at -6%. The average decline was much higher overall than the average increase in 3pt shooting %. Limited data, high-level analysis — indicates however that three point shooting more likely to increase than decrease in the playoffs and matchups will make a difference as well. Will be interesting to see what happens, but this volatility may explain why we need Amare in the long-term to be successful come playoff time.

    24. johnlocke

      Should read that three point shooting more likely to decrease than increase in the playoffs… (if someone has a more robust data source or time to do the analysis the right way) would really be interested in the results. I’d bet that it’s probably directionally fairly close in terms of the conclusions though

    25. smokinjoe

      sidestep:
      Here are screenshots of what I’m talking about.

      http://imageshack.us/a/img11/8527/nba20130411knicksbulls7.png

      http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8527/nba20130411knicksbulls7.png

      Boozer leaves the corner to close out Felton, which induces Felton to
      pass to Kidd in the corner. Hinrich starts to close out Kidd way before Kidd even receives the pass. These defensive rotations anticipate the hockey pass before it even starts.

      Gotta believe Felton is gonna learn to just take that shot instead of passing to Kidd..dont know exact number but it seems like hes making more open 3s now than Kidd..

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