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Knicks Morning News (Friday, Apr 06 2012)

  • [New York Daily News] Magic infighting helps Knicks cruise, 96-80 (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:23:18 GMT)
    The organization has never looked more dysfunctional. The star player is having a very public war with the head coach and the season is slowly falling apart.

  • [New York Daily News] Van Gundy pulls Magic trick on star center (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 06:04:00 GMT)
    The Nets should never, ever try to bring Dwight Howard aboard via a trade or free agency. Howard, the clown prince of NBA players, got what has long been coming to him leading up to Thursday’s Knicks-Magic game.

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks eye Calipari, but coach focused on Kentucky (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 02:00:07 GMT)
    John Calipari was still nine months away from winning his first national championship when a coaching confidant broached the subject of possibly coaching the Knicks in the not-so-distant future.

  • [New York Daily News] Magic coach knows Dwight wants him fired (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 00:22:53 GMT)
    Dwight Howard was outed Thursday by Stan Van Gundy, who revealed to reporters that he knows that the Orlando Magic center asked management to fire him.

  • [New York Times] Knicks 96, Magic 80: Dwight Howard Drama Eclipses Knicks’ Victory Over Magic- (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 05:48:04 GMT)
    The Knicks beat the Magic after Orlando Coach Stan Van Gundy said the team’s star center, Dwight Howard, had asked management to fire him.

  • [New York Times] Deng and Noah Lead Rose-Less Bulls Past Celtics (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 05:48:17 GMT)
    Luol Deng scored 26 points and Joakim Noah added 17 points and 9 rebounds as the Bulls beat the Boston Celtics, 93-86, in Chicago.

  • [New York Times] Bulls Storm Past Celtics, Knicks Trump Magic (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 05:48:19 GMT)
    The Eastern Conference leading Chicago Bulls roared back from a 13-point first-half deficit to defeat the Boston Celtics 93-86 in a meeting between playoff-bound teams on Thursday.

  • [New York Times] Griffin Leads Clippers Past Kings 93-85 (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 04:54:24 GMT)
    Blake Griffin made three straight jumpers in the closing minutes to finish with 14 points and nine rebounds, lifting the Los Angeles Clippers to a 93-85 victory over the Sacramento Kings on Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Knicks Rout Beleaguered Magic (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 03:52:04 GMT)
    The New York Knicks beat the beleaguered Orlando Magic 96-80 on Thursday, with New York’s Carmelo Anthony scoring 19 points while a subdued Dwight Howard could manage just eight for the Magic.

  • [New York Times] Stuckey, Wallace Lead Pistons Past Wizards (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 02:22:49 GMT)
    Greg Monroe had 18 points and seven rebounds, Rodney Stuckey scored 15 points in his return from injury, and Ben Wallace made five key free throws down the stretch as the Detroit Pistons beat the Washington Wizards 99-94 Thursday night.

  • [New York Times] Anthony Leads Knicks Past Reeling Magic 96-80 (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 03:37:03 GMT)
    The New York Knicks seemed to be the NBA’s resident team-in-turmoil last month, stumbling through coaching issues and their second prolonged losing streak of the season.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Magic Coach Says Star Wants Him Fired (Fri, 06 Apr 2012 02:12:05 GMT)
    The stunning assertion by Stan Van Gundy on Thursday may speed up a decision on how the Magic will resolve tensions between their coach and star player.

  • 99 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Friday, Apr 06 2012)

    1. Frank O.

      Citing Howard’s poor game last night as if it happened in a vacuum is a mistake. The last time they played, Chandler tamed him.
      Last night, the Knicks D was stifling. They doubled him quickly and rotated quickly when he passed out.
      When they didn’t double, they feigned a double, and in some cases, Howard dumped the ball out in anticipation of the double. And when they left Chandler on an island, he managed to hold his own and frustrate the human Transformer.
      No, this wasn’t just Dwight playing poorly. The Knicks D was superb.
      One other point, even when the Magic got a few open shots, which will happen playing pro all, their offense was so disrupted, the rhythm so off, that they weren’t hitting their shots, for the most part.
      With an unhealthy Jameer, btw, this Magic team is a first round out.
      But this Knicks team is very good defensively.

    2. Frank O.

      Another point, Novak is seeing some tight defense, but even when he’s not getting shots his value is undeniable.
      Opposing teams simply cannot ignore him. It’s like one fifth of their team is simply tied down for the entire time he’s out there.
      Many teams cheat on D. They simply can’t with Novak out there.
      Rarely in the past two decade did the Knicks have a momentum stopper or builder like Novak.
      Truly a devastating weapon that spreads the floor. And he plays D.
      The Knicks simply must find a way to keep him.

    3. Frank O.

      Last post, is anyone as surprised as me that every time the Knicks lose a key player, someone from the bench steps up and delivers?
      I mean, TD was an impact layer last night. He hit tough shots, played stifling D and was competent with the ball.

      And did anyone else see a little point guard minutes in Smith’s ball handling last night?
      Explosive, but in control, dishing to make teammates better. Squint a little and watch his play last night. I swear I saw about 10 minutes of point guard work from him last night.

      I don’t think Baron is done, btw. I just think he’s playing with no confidence in his hammie.
      Give him time.

      Watched the bulls last night. Hey are big. They played without several key guys and they continue to look very formidable.
      We match well with them, but man this may be their year.

    4. JC Knickfan

      I’ve said few times, every team can use 3pt specialist.
      I not sure how CBA rules work with Novak, but Knicks can try to sign Novak to 3 year guarantee contract where it’s backloaded. We screw cap for next 3 year anyways so we try our best to retain Novak.

    5. Brian Cronin

      The cap rules with Novak are as follows:

      The Knicks do not have any kind of Bird Rights with regards to Novak, so they are limited to offering him one of the following contracts:

      1. A 20% raise over his current salary (which is a little under $1 million).
      2. Part of or all of their $2 million Bi-Annual Exception
      3. Part of or all of their $5 million Mid-Level Exception

      They can not backload any of these three contracts. They are limited to standard raises (something like 8% per year – I don’t know the exact figure).

      The third option is not really an option, since it is needed to sign Jeremy Lin. That pretty much leaves the $2 million Bi-Annual Exception. That’s not a terrible offer, but the odds that no other team will offer the guy leading the NBA in three-point shooting more than that (especially capped out luxury tax-paying teams that can offer him the $3 million mini-MLE) seem fairly slim.

    6. Brian Cronin

      Also, do note that Novak did not choose to sign with the Knicks this season. He was claimed off waivers. So we don’t even know for sure that he’d pick the Knicks if it was a free market situation. He could have signed here last year and he signed with Dallas instead. He could have signed with the Knicks after getting cut by the Mavs, but he signed with the Spurs instead.

    7. JC Knickfan

      Steve Novak is 28 and in league for 6 years. Look like he would look for biggest payday from Financial standpoint. Look like going to be impossible retain him.

    8. Brian Cronin

      Yes, I imagine that will be the case. A three-year/$9 million offer from a team like the Lakers or the Heat seems too good to say no to. And there are plenty of teams that will be able to offer him part of their MLE, as well.

    9. JC Knickfan

      Brian Cronin:
      The cap rules with Novak are as follows:

      The Knicks do now have any kind of Bird Rights with regards to Novak, so they are limited to offering him one of the following contracts:

      Brian
      Do you know how many years does Steve have to be on team to get Bird Rights? Hypothetically could sign to 1 year deal until we get Bird rights? Then give him one year big contract rewarding him for staying on team. This would probably be against CBA rules, but possible to do?

    10. Brian Cronin

      If he signs with the Knicks next year, then after next season the Knicks can re-sign him for up to the MLE without having to use an exception. So yeah, that would end up paying him more than he likely will get on the open market, but that would require him to put a whole lot of faith in him putting up a good year next year and trusting that the Knicks will take care of him in 2013. It seems more likely that he’d try to cash in this offseason. But yes, if he chooses to wait, they can pay him up to $5 million a year next offseason.

    11. Frank O.

      On Howard, I realize players have a lot of sway in the nBA, and arguably should, but I’m surprised tht players and former players are surprised that a coach decided to stand up for himself and attempt to counter what the player has done.
      That Melo went to support Howard after the game, Howard, of all people, spoke volumes.
      Howard is a douche. He expected to run out yet another coach, yet he continues to be an uneven performer and a heinous free throw shooter who has yet to lead a team deep into the playoffs.
      Warfare is all about measures and countermeasure. If players can start a whispering campaign, if they can demand that a successful coach be fired, well, they should expect push back. And hard push back.
      I mean, in most cases, coaches are more intellectually and experientially seasoned. They don’t often have a strong hand, but that doesn’t mean they won’t push back.
      In my view, SVG was either trying to get fired, or trying to get Howard to quit, which is his mo, and I mean leave Orlando next year.
      You can say SVG hasn’t won a championship, but neither has Howard.
      How many coaches were going to get pushed out by players before coaches started to avail themselves of the tools they have?
      I’m not talking Larry “crazy” Brown either. SVG has a winning team. He may lose his job, but he’ll get picked up in no time and make more money.
      In the end, this may expose Howard for the mental pussy he is.

    12. Frank

      As I remember the Novak signing, I think he was waived due to a “mutual agreement” and it was pretty much understood that he would be picked up by the Knicks.

      Meanwhile – Grunwald picked up Novak (leading the league in 3P%) and Lin (leading the league in (deserved) hype, millions made for owner while getting paid the minimum), and got Baron off the scrap heap. Really amazing to get this level of production from guys that no one else wanted.

      Re: resigning guys – the 3 guys that need resigning are Lin, Novak, and Jeffries. Unfortunately all we have are the MLE which presumably will go to Lin, a 2M biannual exception, and vet’s minimum. I have some hope that Jeffries will take the vet’s minimum (although he has outplayed that kind of contract). If we could somehow convince Lin to take less than the full MLE then we would have a chance to resign all 3. Unlikely but possible.

      By the way – it’s not like Novak is really hurting – he’s already made $5M playing basketball, which is probably $4M more than his father made in his whole life. Obviously he would want to get his payday, but maybe he could somehow be convinced to take the 2 year biannual with the 2nd year being a player option to give him maximum flexibility. He does seem to love playing in NYC.

      A lot of this may come down to how well we finish this year out. If we don’t make the playoffs, then I think all these guys will bolt. If we make it to the 2nd round or beyond, it might be reasonable to hope that they all come back to give it another good run. One thing we will definitely need to do is make a quick decision on who is going to be the coach. The players seem to really like Woodson, who is definitely growing on me too. Maybe he is the father-figure-type that guys like Melo, JR, etc. need. They certainly have picked up their play and intensity since he took over the top job.

    13. Brian Cronin

      Baron wasn’t off the scrap heap. He chose the Knicks over other teams that wanted him. I mean, it is great to have him, but that wasn’t something you credit Grunwald with. Davis had his pick of contenders and chose the Knicks because of the role he’d play and his friendship with Chandler.

      Lin and Novak, though, were all Grunwald and he does deserve a ton of credit. Same with the Chandler move. Once it was clear they weren’t getting a standout 1, he went out and got the best 5 he could. Great move.

    14. hoolahoop

      Frank O.:
      Another point, Novak is seeing some tight defense, but even when he’s not getting shots his value is undeniable.
      Opposing teams simply cannot ignore him. It’s like one fifth of their team is simply tied down for the entire time he’s out there.
      Many teams cheat on D. They simply can’t with Novak out there.
      Rarely in the past two decade did the Knicks have a momentum stopper or builder like Novak.
      Truly a devastating weapon that spreads the floor. And he plays D.
      The Knicks simply must find a way to keep him.

      JJ Reddick’s assignment clearly was to stay glued to Novak at all times, no matter what.

    15. Mulligan

      Some possible Novak replacements – Kapono, Brandon Rush, Anthony Parker, Bellineli.. ?

    16. TelegraphedPass

      @16 It’s tough to replace a shooter THAT good. Anthony Parker is far too old and far too much of a liability. We’re stacked on the wings anyways, unless we lose Junior.

      Kapono is a viable option, but he’s been beyond underwhelming this year.

      Rush and Bellinelli are young enough for a team under the cap to offer them better than anything we can.

    17. JC Knickfan

      Brian Cronin:
      If he signs with the Knicks next year, then after next season the Knicks can re-sign him for up to the MLE without having to use an exception. So yeah, that would end up paying him more than he likely will get on the open market, but that would require him to put a whole lot of faith in him putting up a good year next year and trusting that the Knicks will take care of him in 2013. It seems more likely that he’d try to cash in this offseason. But yes, if he chooses to wait, they can pay him up to $5 million a year next offseason.

      This only way keeping Novak. Ask him sign one deal 20% raise deal or maybe include player option and then tell him will give him a guarantee 2 year 10 million afterwards.
      It would have to be under table guarantee.

      JJ should get Mini-MLE and JLin will get MLE.

    18. villainx

      How does things change for Novak, JJ, and Lin depending on Fields? I think early on Fields looked to be getting a bigger contract, but his value kinda went south with his poor shooting. What if he doesn’t even sign with the Knicks? Or sign and trade?

    19. TelegraphedPass

      JC Knickfan: This only way keeping Novak. Ask him sign one deal 20% raise deal or maybe include player option and then tell him will give him a guarantee 2 year 10 million afterwards.It would have to be under table guarantee.P>

      This isn’t how NBA business works.

    20. Bruno Almeida

      TelegraphedPass:
      @16 It’s tough to replace a shooter THAT good. Anthony Parker is far too old and far too much of a liability. We’re stacked on the wings anyways, unless we lose Junior.

      Kapono is a viable option, but he’s been beyond underwhelming this year.

      Rush and Bellinelli are young enough for a team under the cap to offer them better than anything we can.

      yeah, Novak is just the perfect option, because he can play the 4 due to his height… we don’t have room for a 3pt shooter who can only play the 2, like Rush or Parker.

      I really hope we can resign all of them, but if one has to go, unfortunately it’s Novak.

      I don’t think we can afford not having Jeffries on this team (and I can’t believe I’m saying this), he solves a lot of the problems we have, while Novak is a nice (and very important) ‘luxury’ to have on offense.

    21. Brian Cronin

      How does things change for Novak, JJ, and Lin depending on Fields? I think early on Fields looked to be getting a bigger contract, but his value kinda went south with his poor shooting. What if he doesn’t even sign with the Knicks? Or sign and trade?

      It doesn’t affect anything. They’re over the cap with or without re-signing Fields. And his contract doesn’t affect the others, since the Knicks have Early Bird Rights for Fields. So whatever they do with Fields it does not have an impact on the other players.

    22. JLam

      It’s toxic in Orlando
      My bold prediction:
      Magic will go 1-5 in the next 6 games SVG will be fired and Patrick Ewing will be the interim coach as the Magic fight for the 8th seed

    23. TelegraphedPass

      And a S&T with Fields just seems unlikely. Who really wants him THAT badly after this season and what substantial could we get in return?

      To be clear, I’m not writing Fields off. More that his stock is sure to be miniscule with other teams.

    24. Garson

      I am uneducated on the rules of restructuring a contract mid term. Would it be possible for Amare or Melo to move some moneys around to keep the current roster intact?

      If so, would be a big team first move on their part and would gain them (melo more-so after the roster depleting move he pulled) some fan appreciation.

      I personally wouldnt be able to Boo melo if he shaved some salary to keep novak, fields.

    25. TelegraphedPass

      Garson: I am uneducated on the rules of restructuring a contract mid term. Would it be possible for Amare or Melo to move some moneys around to keep the current roster intact? If so, would be a big team first move on their part and would gain them (melo more-so after the roster depleting move he pulled) some fan appreciation.I personally wouldnt be able to Boo melo if he shaved some salary to keep novak, fields.

      No, that isn’t possible. Players can’t change the terms of their deal or take less money to change the team’s cap situation.

    26. TelegraphedPass

      Garson: I am uneducated on the rules of restructuring a contract mid term. Would it be possible for Amare or Melo to move some moneys around to keep the current roster intact? If so, would be a big team first move on their part and would gain them (melo more-so after the roster depleting move he pulled) some fan appreciation.I personally wouldnt be able to Boo melo if he shaved some salary to keep novak, fields.

      https://webfiles.uci.edu/lcoon/cbafaq/salarycap.htm#Q53

      Here you go, bruh.

    27. Brian Cronin

      That used to be true, TelegraphedPass, but now players are able to lower their salaries. However, it can only come when they sign extensions, and neither Amar’e nor Melo are eligible for extensions for another year (it might be two years for Melo).

    28. 2FOR18

      If MDA gets another job, then Jeffries will probably follow him. The way MDA stood up for Jeffries earlier in the year won’t be forgotten.
      Novak is gone. Somebody will offer him more than us and he has to look out for his best interests and take the best offer. JR will be gone for the same reason.
      Given how strong the pg position is league wide, I can’t see anyone offering Baron more than the 2MM exception, so my guess is he stays.

      So next season looks like this:
      Chandler
      Amare
      Melo
      Shump
      Lin

      Baron
      Jorts
      Fields
      tddwttd
      B Walker
      J Jordan

      plus roster filler

      I can get excited about that team, assuming they are ever healthy at the same time. I don’t like Melo, but he’s not going anywhere so I will just have to hope he goes to Paul Pierce school over the summer.

    29. TelegraphedPass

      Brian Cronin: That used to be true, TelegraphedPass, but now players are able to lower their salaries. However, it can only come when they sign extensions, and neither Amar’e nor Melo are eligible for extensions for another year.

      I was under the impression that a team had to be under the cap for that to be an option, though. Also I thought they cannot be renegotiated downwards in any situation (like a pay cut).

    30. cgreene

      JLam:
      It’s toxic in Orlando
      My bold prediction:
      Magic will go 1-5 in the next 6 games SVG will be fired and Patrick Ewing will be the interim coach as the Magic fight for the 8th seed

      Let’s hope the 1 is in Philly tomorrow. Philly could lose that and to Boston in Boston on Sunday. That would be best outcome.

    31. Mulligan

      Man, apparently Howard only wants to go to NJ? What’s wrong with that dude. I guess it’s a perfect storm – they don’t know how to manage their franchise and he doesn’t know how to manage his career.

      http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/220318/Magic_Threatened_To_Trade_Howard_To_Lakers

      In what world is it a threat to be traded to one of the league’s premier franchises, with a history of exceptional centers, a former MVP and one of the biggest media markets in the country? And you’ll still be given a max contract? WTF.

    32. TelegraphedPass

      @33 I’m just so confused as to why he opted in. He really wanted to go to Brooklyn to play with Deron Williams, and that makes a lot of sense, but is going to LA with Kobe that much worse?

      I suppose the biggest problem would be his perceived impact. If Dwight were to be sent to LA and LA won a title, people would attribute it to Kobe’s “championship mentality” or something of that nature. Dwight wouldn’t get the credit he wants or deserves.

    33. Mulligan

      Well, unless he knows something we don’t know, he’s not pairing up with DWill in NJ. That dude’s outta there and going to Dallas. I guess maybe Dwight will try and go there himself in another year? Is that possible?

      They should all go to Dallas. Well-run team, deep with talent. Them, Miami, OKC, the Bulls and the Clippers.. that’s a bunch of good teams for the next few years.

    34. TelegraphedPass

      Couldn’t he conceivably just refused to opt-in ANYWHERE and force his way to Brooklyn in free agency? Why ruin your opportunity to start relatively fresh with one of the best PGs of the past decade?

    35. Bruno Almeida

      TelegraphedPass:
      @33 I’m just so confused as to why he opted in. He really wanted to go to Brooklyn to play with Deron Williams, and that makes a lot of sense, but is going to LA with Kobe that much worse?

      I suppose the biggest problem would be his perceived impact. If Dwight were to be sent to LA and LA won a title, people would attribute it to Kobe’s “championship mentality” or something of that nature. Dwight wouldn’t get the credit he wants or deserves.

      that’s irritating to watch, really.

      if this is true, it just shows how incredibly stupid Howard really is.

    36. TelegraphedPass

      Bruno Almeida: that’s irritating to watch, really.if this is true, it just shows how incredibly stupid Howard really is.

      Look at it from Dwight’s point of view, though. Dwight knows he’s a Hall-of-Fame caliber center. He knows his organization has been fairly inept at acquiring sufficient talent to support him. For some reason, he doesn’t like SVG. It seems like he genuinely likes Orlando as a city, but not more than he’d like to be the face of a championship team. He’s an incredibly personable guy. He’s attractive and fans love him.

      No matter where he plays, he’s good enough that they would likely be contending no matter his supporting cast. Why risk his legacy by playing alongside the 2nd best marketed NBA player of all time? Regardless of whether or not he’s actually better than Kobe (he is), people would automatically assume that Kobe led that Lakers team to another title.

      NJ/BK just makes so much more sense for Dwight. Doesn’t excuse The Indecision by any means, but his reasoning isn’t completely off.

    37. Brian Cronin

      I was under the impression that a team had to be under the cap for that to be an option, though. Also I thought they cannot be renegotiated downwards in any situation (like a pay cut).

      They did not use to be able to negotiate downward, but now they can. As to whether a team has to be under the cap or not, I honestly do not know. I don’t believe there is a restriction, but I suppose there could be.

    38. TelegraphedPass

      Brian Cronin: They did not use to be able to negotiate downward, but now they can. As to whether a team has to be under the cap or not, I honestly do not know. I don’t believe there is a restriction, but I suppose there could be.

      “Only teams under the cap can renegotiate a contract, and the salary in the then-current season can be increased only to the extent that the team has room under the cap. Raises in subsequent years are limited to 10.5% of the salary in the first renegotiated season. The renegotiation may not contain a signing bonus. Contracts cannot be renegotiated downward (players can’t take a ‘pay cut’ in order to create salary cap room for the team) or to contain fewer seasons.” -from Larry Coon’s FAQ

    39. TelegraphedPass

      JLam: Tyson is the best free agent signing the Knicks made. He got Dirk to play D and win a NBA titleThis year Dirk is another Melo. Just scoring playing less attention to defense. Mavs aren’t going to win another championship without their stars playing D

      Tyson didn’t “get” Dirk to play D. He covered up for Dirk’s deficiencies. Dirk has never been a great defender. It’s no coincidence that he’s exposed again this year.

    40. KnickfaninNJ

      Howard might have some sort of personal reason for wanting the NYC area. Then all his actions make sense.

      On the salary cap front, our general management seems to have done so well at finding underpriced talent that the sum of all the values of the players we have is more than the salary cap, so we can’t pay them all what they deserve. Of course this is frustrating, but it’s a lot better than not having the talent.

    41. Bruno Almeida

      TelegraphedPass: Look at it from Dwight’s point of view, though. Dwight knows he’s a Hall-of-Fame caliber center. He knows his organization has been fairly inept at acquiring sufficient talent to support him. For some reason, he doesn’t like SVG. It seems like he genuinely likes Orlando as a city, but not more than he’d like to be the face of a championship team. He’s an incredibly personable guy. He’s attractive and fans love him.

      No matter where he plays, he’s good enough that they would likely be contending no matter his supporting cast. Why risk his legacy by playing alongside the 2nd best marketed NBA player of all time? Regardless of whether or not he’s actually better than Kobe (he is), people would automatically assume that Kobe led that Lakers team to another title.

      NJ/BK just makes so much more sense for Dwight. Doesn’t excuse The Indecision by any means, but his reasoning isn’t completely off.

      I agree on him wanting to leave Orlando, a franchise that makes the kind of moves they have made with the intention of contending is a sad place to be.

      but he should be looking at titles in the first place, and not his “brand” or marketing stuff… any team with Howard is a contender, but quite possibly not a title winning team.

      if he truly cared about winning and being a champion, he would agree on going to Dallas, Chicago or Los Angeles… do you really think, specially if Deron leaves, that New Jersey is a good basketball opportunity for him?

      and even if Deron stays, is Deron + Howard + bunch of overpaid scrubs good enough for a title? (Wallace and any other decent asset would have to be packaged to Orlando on any trade).

      his moves and his opinions just don’t make sense on a basketball standpoint.

    42. ruruland

      JLam: Tyson is the best free agent signing the Knicks made. He got Dirk to play D and win a NBA titleThis year Dirk is another Melo. Just scoring playing less attention to defense. Mavs aren’t going to win another championship without their stars playing D

      Melo D>>>Dirk D

    43. Brian Cronin

      “Only teams under the cap can renegotiate a contract, and the salary in the then-current season can be increased only to the extent that the team has room under the cap. Raises in subsequent years are limited to 10.5% of the salary in the first renegotiated season. The renegotiation may not contain a signing bonus. Contracts cannot be renegotiated downward (players can’t take a ‘pay cut’ in order to create salary cap room for the team) or to contain fewer seasons.” -from Larry Coon’s FAQ

      Larry’s Salary Cap FAQ is out of date. It has not yet been updated for the new CBA, which is where the change in restructuring came in that allows players to renegotiate their contracts lower. He mentions on Twitter a lot that he keeps trying to fit in time to work on the revisions. Hopefully he’ll have them up soon!

    44. Count de Pennies

      Dwight Howard may be a drama queen of the first water but doesn’t he at least deserve a wee bit of credit for wanting to be the ringmaster of his own circus?

      I mean it wasn’t all that long ago that folks on here were killing LeBron for choosing the role of D Wade’s second banana over the opportunity to be The King of New York.

    45. Bruno Almeida

      Count de Pennies:
      Dwight Howard may be a drama queen of the first water but doesn’t he at least deserve a wee bit of credit for wanting to be the ringmaster of his own circus?

      I mean it wasn’t all that long ago that folks on here were killing LeBron for choosing the role of D Wade’s second banana over the opportunity to be The King of New York.

      he is the ringmaster right now, and it’s not working… being the “alpha dog” on a team is much more based on attitude than talent, and Howard has never shown that extra edge that all number 1 superstars have, the one that pushes them over the top.

      and, for all it’s worth, he wants to go to NJ to play with another superstar, Deron Williams… we don’t know if he’ll still want to go there if he leaves.

      just think about it: if Deron leaves, and Howard goes to NJ as a free agent, who’ll be on his team? the Nets have exactly 2 players on contract for the 2013/14 season (MarShon Brooks and Damion Jones, if they pick up both options)… anyone really trusts this New Jersey front office, the one that gave Johan Petro, Jordan Farmar and Travis Outlaw huge contracts, to build a contender around Howard strictly via free agency and one lottery pick in 2013?

      they probably won’t get the Rockets and Warriors pick they are due this summer, and they owe first rounders to both Utah and Portland due to the Williams and Wallace trades…

    46. KnickfaninNJ

      The unusual guy isn’t Howard. People have been complaining about their bosses and players have complained about their coaches from time immemorial. The unusual one is Stan Van Gundy. He talked publicly about it.

    47. johnlocke

      That’s a horrible 3pt shooting team. The space filler will need to be another 3pt specialist…dunno who that would be though

      2FOR18:
      If MDA gets another job, then Jeffries will probably follow him.The way MDA stood up for Jeffries earlier in the year won’t be forgotten.
      Novak is gone. Somebody will offer him more than us and he has to look out for his best interests and take the best offer.JR will be gone for the same reason.
      Given how strong the pg position is league wide, I can’t see anyone offering Baron more than the 2MM exception, so my guess is he stays.

      So next season looks like this:
      Chandler
      Amare
      Melo
      Shump
      Lin

      Baron
      Jorts
      Fields
      tddwttd
      B Walker
      J Jordan

      plus roster filler

      I can get excited about that team, assuming they are ever healthy at the same time.I don’t like Melo, but he’s not going anywhere so I will just have to hope he goes to Paul Pierce school over the summer.

    48. TelegraphedPass

      Brian Cronin: Larry’s Salary Cap FAQ is out of date. It has not yet been updated for the new CBA, which is where the change in restructuring came in that allows players to renegotiate their contracts lower. He mentions on Twitter a lot that he keeps trying to fit in time to work on the revisions. Hopefully he’ll have them up soon!

      Ahhh, right I missed that! Yeah, he did a great job with the last one. Hope to see a new one soon.

    49. flossy

      Frank O.: Howard is a douche. He expected to run out yet another coach, yet he continues to be an uneven performer and a heinous free throw shooter who has yet to lead a team deep into the playoffs.

      The NBA Finals isn’t deep?

    50. TelegraphedPass

      @51 It would be a bit inaccurate to say it “isn’t working”. He led that team to the NBA Finals a couple years ago, remember, featuring guys like Courtney Lee, Hedo Turkoglu, and the shell of Rashard Lewis.

      Deron doesn’t leave if Howard goes there. The sole reason he planned on staying was for a shot to be the face of the Brooklyn Nets with a superstar like Dwight.

      And that “extra edge” to me is a myth. Dirk didn’t have it until he mysteriously did last year. Dwight is one of the best centers in NBA history. You can win a title with him as your best player.

    51. Brian Cronin

      Howard’s a lame guy, but I’d love to have him on the Knicks. He’s one of the five best players in the game. Look how little talent the Magic had to put around him for them to make the NBA Finals. That’s what players like him do for you – they make adding support staff a lot easier.

    52. Dan Panorama

      Horrible news everyone, Isiah just got fired from FIU. That means he’s free to join ours.

    53. 2FOR18

      Dan Panorama:
      Horrible news everyone, Isiah just got fired from FIU. That means he’s free to join ours.

      That would finish me off. Maybe I’d start following hockey again.

    54. KnickfaninNJ

      That’s a shame for Isiah, but I don’t think it will affect us. I’m sure people, including Dolan, have figured out what he is good at by now, which is identifying talent. So that means he’s likely to be a scout or consultant on that. I don’t think anyone will hire him as a coach or GM. His record at FIU and at NY was just too terrible.

      Dan Panorama: Horrible news everyone, Isiah just got fired from FIU. That means he’s free to join ours.

    55. TelegraphedPass

      KnickfaninNJ: I’m sure people, including Dolan, have figured out what he is good at by now, which is identifying talent.

      #TrollSoHard

      Wait, are you serious? Nahhhh

    56. Frank O.

      flossy: The NBA Finals isn’t deep?

      Forgot. Didn’t win tho. My point stands. He hasnt won a title, he’s not a guy u can go to in the end because he can’t shoot FTs. Obviously, I don’t think much of him. I used to feel he was the most dominant guys out there, but I’ve watched him quit a lot this year and chandler has been His match.

    57. TelegraphedPass

      Frank O.: Forgot. Didn’t win tho. My point stands. He hasnt won a title, he’s not a guy u can go to in the end because he can’t shoot FTs. Obviously, I don’t think much of him. I used to feel he was the most dominant guys out there, but I’ve watched him quit a lot this year and chandler has been His match.

      What does that even mean? Steve Nash has never BEEN to the NBA Finals. Clearly you can win a ring with him as your best player; it just didn’t shake out that way.

    58. TelegraphedPass

      So we live in a world where players are good enough to lead a team to the NBA Finals but somehow lacking some quality to win four games after that? Frank O., you’re usually pretty on point but you’re face down in left field right now.

    59. KnickfaninNJ

      Yes, He drafted well, and even many of thethe players he traded for (Crawford and Randolph for example) haven proven to be talented and had good roles on other teams after Isiah left. His draft choices are all still in the league, except for maybe Balkman, and Balkman played three years or so in a supporting role, which is at least average for where he was drafted. Eddy Curry was his biggest disaster, but I am not sure you can say that was totally Isiah. There basically bad work ethic and maybe bad luck too sabotaged reasonable talent for scoring. That’s happened to many GMs

      I know that his teams didn’t play well and weren’t well constructed and he also seemed to have no idea how to manage a salary cap, but that’s different than just selecting talent. If you remember previous GMs, who, say, passed on Ron Artest in the draft or traded for players way past their prime, you can see that Isiah doesn’t come off badly in pure talent selection.

      TelegraphedPass: #TrollSoHardWait, are you serious? Nahhhh

    60. Frank

      Actually I agree that Isiah is a reasonably good talent evaluator – it was his ability to actually put together a good roster or do any kind of cap management that was the problem. He would probably be good (somewhere else) as a director player personnel or some such thing, leading the business of actually putting a team together under a cap to someone else. Trouble is – his name is just toxic around the league now and any fan base would lose it if he were hired.

      I’m very underwhelmed by Howard also – granted I don’t watch him play much and it seems like Chandler knows how to play him. As a fan I know I’m supposed to care most about the bottom line (wins/championships) but I would much rather have a warrior like Chandler on my team than a soft, waffling, underhanded baby like Melo, I mean Howard on my team.

    61. jon abbey

      TelegraphedPass:
      So we live in a world where players are good enough to lead a team to the NBA Finals but somehow lacking some quality to win four games after that?

      Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller among others say yes, that is the world we live in.

    62. TelegraphedPass

      @67 That you, Zeke?

      Jerome James – 5 year $30m after averaging 4.9 and 3 in 17 minutes per game for the Sonics. Avged 9 minutes per game for NY next season.

      You drafted Renaldo Balkman right before Rajon Rondo, which I suppose would have been acceptable, right? People whiff on hidden talent sometimes. Except, wait, NOBODY HAD BALKMAN ON THEIR DRAFT BOARDS THAT YEAR! The announcers had to search his info to be able to talk about him. Why draft him at all, least of all in the first round?

      We’re just supposed to excuse Eddy Curry? He was overweight, had a heart condition that he wouldn’t treat, and couldn’t rebound.

      Or Channing Frye over Andrew Bynum and Danny Granger? How’d that one work out?

      FOH, dawg, you can’t fool us into excusin your mess.

    63. TelegraphedPass

      jon abbey: Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller among others say yes, that is the world we live in.

      And all of them are champions in my eyes, but your point seems to be that they just didn’t have that championship gene. Which is absurd to me but we’ll just have to disagree there.

    64. TelegraphedPass

      I suppose Zeke was a satisfactory talent evaluator in that he selected guys who are tall and play basketball, but beyond that he had little success. The players he did acquire were almost universally overpaid, resulting in the Knicks consistently fielding a team that ranks near the top in salary but the bottom in wins. It’s one thing to be a bad team because of inexperience. It’s quite another to seal off your salary cap to retired or out-of-shape players.

    65. TelegraphedPass

      Frank: Actually I agree that Isiah is a reasonably good talent evaluator – it was his ability to actually put together a good roster or do any kind of cap management that was the problem.

      Get out of here, Steve Francis. You can’t fool me, I know it’s you.

    66. TelegraphedPass

      And I’m clearly trolling a bit, calling you guys Stevie Franchise and Zeke and Starbury and Jerome James and Eddy Curry but no offense intended. I’m just illustrating how absurd Zeke’s decision-making was here in NY.

    67. BigBlueAL

      “This the most surprising thing that has happened to me in basketball,” Thomas said. “I never been fired before for basketball reasons. This is the first time.

      “When I was in Toronto I was trying to buy a team and I left. When I was in Indiana Larry Bird told me that he liked what I was doing but he was closer to Rick Carlisle. The whole thing in New York was crazy. This is the first time someone told me that I was being fired for basketball reasons.”

      LOL

    68. steveoh

      This just goes to prove that the only thing that can overshadow an “Is Melo overrated?” debate is some news about Isiah Thomas.

    69. Frank O.

      TelegraphedPass:
      So we live in a world where players are good enough to lead a team to the NBA Finals but somehow lacking some quality to win four games after that? Frank O., you’re usually pretty on point but you’re face down in left field right now.

      The point I’m trying to make is, if you are a player who has won no championship, you are hardly in a position to judge whether or not a very good coach is good enough to lead your team. Shaq made the case that SVG’s Heat team didn’t respect him because he wasn’t a champion, but they respected Riley because he was. But Shaq forgot to note that he was a champion. He could say that. Howard has not won. Who is he to say who has the stuff to win and who doesn’t? Certainly he can say it; but clearly management hasn’t even willing yet to act in his behalf. That says something, I think.
      And there are many great players who never won anything, and they will tell you, they feel less for it. And they are less for it. There are huge differences between someone who hypothetically is good enough to win and someone who has won.
      The star who won has a great deal more legitimacy if they have a beef with a coach than a star that has won nothing, IMHO. And if I’m face down in right field, that’s fine. Howard has only so many years in this league, and it seems as if he took this entire year for granted.

    70. JLam

      This team still has some of Isiah’s fingerprints as Grunwald and Woodson were on the same college team with Isiah at Indiana. However I think they are doing a good job at present and I hope the Dolan is no longer influenced by Isiah any longer.

    71. Frank O.

      BigBlueAL:
      “This the most surprising thing that has happened to me in basketball,” Thomas said. “I never been fired before for basketball reasons. This is the first time.

      “When I was in Toronto I was trying to buy a team and I left. When I was in Indiana Larry Bird told me that he liked what I was doing but he was closer to Rick Carlisle. The whole thing in New York was crazy. This is the first time someone told me that I was being fired for basketball reasons.”

      LOL

      Delusional. Fascinating.

    72. Frank O.

      Frank O.: The point I’m trying to make is, if you are a player who has won no championship, you are hardly in a position to judge whether or not a very good coach is good enough to lead your team. Shaq made the case that SVG’s Heat team didn’t respect him because he wasn’t a champion, but they respected Riley because he was. But Shaq forgot to note that he was a champion. He could say that. Howard has not won. Who is he to say who has the stuff to win and who doesn’t? Certainly he can say it; but clearly management hasn’t even willing yet to act in his behalf. That says something, I think.
      And there are many great players who never won anything, and they will tell you, they feel less for it. And they are less for it. There are huge differences between someone who hypothetically is good enough to win and someone who has won.
      The star who won has a great deal more legitimacy if they have a beef with a coach than a star that has won nothing, IMHO. And if I’m face down in right field, that’s fine. Howard has only so many years in this league, and it seems as if he took this entire year for granted.

      To this day I’ll never forget Babe Ruth League. We were in the championship game, it was the last inning, and we we’re up by two runs. Bases were loaded and I was in center, with two outs. A guy hit a screaming, diving liner to center that I tried to catch, and it squirted under my glove. Three runs and we lost. I had a great season. My team was very good, but I still remember that feeling as I got to that ball and let it go to home, simply knowing I had blown the game. Didn’t matter how well I had played to that point. Honestly, the thing I remember most about that season was that ball getting by me.
      Big difference between winning and losing.

    73. gbaked

      JR signed a 2 year deal. He is on the knicks next season.

      2FOR18:
      If MDA gets another job, then Jeffries will probably follow him.The way MDA stood up for Jeffries earlier in the year won’t be forgotten.
      Novak is gone. Somebody will offer him more than us and he has to look out for his best interests and take the best offer.JR will be gone for the same reason.
      Given how strong the pg position is league wide, I can’t see anyone offering Baron more than the 2MM exception, so my guess is he stays.

      So next season looks like this:
      Chandler
      Amare
      Melo
      Shump
      Lin

      Baron
      Jorts
      Fields
      tddwttd
      B Walker
      J Jordan

      plus roster filler

      I can get excited about that team, assuming they are ever healthy at the same time.I don’t like Melo, but he’s not going anywhere so I will just have to hope he goes to Paul Pierce school over the summer.

    74. daJudge

      Can I shift gears for a minute and ask what you folks think about Stat coming off the bench. Maybe as an experiment while his back is still weak. I think there are many reasons to try it and I also believe Stat is mensch enough to do it and do it well.

    75. erobes

      gbaked:
      JR signed a 2 year deal. He is on the knicks next season.

      Except its a player option for next year, and there’s no way JR would exercise it when he can get a longer-term deal for more money on the free agent market. He is not going to be on the Knicks next season.

    76. BigBlueAL

      Bobcats actually had a 1pt lead with a few mins left in Milwaukee but the Bucks have responded by scoring 9 in a row and lead by 8 with less than 2 mins left. Oh well.

    77. JC Knickfan

      Bucks still one game back. Buck probably lose to Thundar and Portland game is toss up. If don’t split with Chi-town, we probably same record going into Weds 4/11 matchup. We must win that just to split head-to-head matchup.

      We only half game up on Conf record which I believe is next tiebreaker.

    78. ess-dog

      In most businesses, there is an owner and then a ladder of managers. The one at the top Is the one that makes the most money. Like it or not, D12 makes the most on the Magic and is therefore in charge. That’s just how it is in the NBA. It’s not gonna change. They may as well fire Van Gundy now – maybe they can save their season ?

    79. Brian Cronin

      The West playoff race is insane. Every night it seems like everyone loses or everyone wins, so no one ever gains or loses. It it is such a jumbled mess.

      And yeah, it is irritating as heck to see Milwaukee come back to win that game tonight. Also, Indy beat OKC? Seriously?

    80. jon abbey

      I expect Chicago to come at us especially hard as there’s a good chance we’ll be their first round matchup, and they can send a message. have we heard yet if Jeffries will actually be back?

    81. jon abbey

      wow, did anyone mention that we are temporarily up to #5 in the Hollinger rankings now? Indy might jump us after beating OKC tonight, but that’s incredible, only behind the clearcut top four teams coming into tonight.

      and yet we easily still could miss the playoffs.

    82. Brian Cronin

      By the way, who was it that made the argument that the NBA’s super-unbalanced schedule (with West teams playing more West teams than normal and East teams playing more East teams than normal) mixed with the East having most of the worst teams in the NBA has made Hollinger’s rankings a bit unreliable this year (as the Eastern teams are being overrated because they are having an inordinate amount of blowouts against the bottom of the barrel East teams)? I think it was someone here. I wonder if there’s anything to that, as it seems awfully odd that six of the first nine teams in the rankings are from the East and five of the first seven.

    83. 2FOR18

      daJudge:
      Can I shift gears for a minute and ask what you folks think about Stat coming off the bench.Maybe as an experiment while his back is still weak.I think there are many reasons to try it and I also believe Stat is mensch enough to do it and do it well.

      Well I’m all for it. Brian has already explained a few times about how Melo and Amare’s talents overlap to result in a less than the sum of their parts thing. Also, since Amare is more effective at C, it makes sense to split him and Chandler up as much as possible.

    84. ruruland

      2FOR18: Well I’m all for it. Brian has already explained a few times about how Melo and Amare’s talents overlap to result in a less than the sum of their parts thing. Also, since Amare is more effective at C, it makes sense to split him and Chandler up as much as possible.

      I’m not convinced of this yet.

      Look, we’ve only seen 10-12 games where Amar’e and Melo played with a solid pick and roll point guard.

      Last year for Amar’e, the numbers fell off in direct proportion to the difference in penetration and passing ability between Felton and Billups.

    85. Tony Pena

      “On paper” STAT should compliment Melo’s ISO’s nicely with baseline cuts and spot up Js. Technically T1000s O overlaps with STAT. I still think there has to be one base set that should create for at least 3 of our own “Big Four”. Hopefully in the works somewhere in Woody’s head. Or Phil Jackson’s. Lol

    86. ruruland

      Tony Pena: “On paper” STAT should compliment Melo’s ISO’s nicely with baseline cuts and spot up Js. Technically T1000s O overlaps with STAT. I still think there has to be one base set that should create for at least 3 of our own “Big Four”. Hopefully in the works somewhere in Woody’s head. Or Phil Jackson’s. Lol

      Right. Just because they score in similar areas really doesn’t mean thier skills overlap. There’s a lot more overlap between Lebron and Wade, actually.

      Amar’e is much better getting the ball on the move, either as he’s going towards the basket or jumpers– he gets his shooting rhythm after movement.

      There’s no reason those actions can’t be accommodated with Melo isos — he just needs to be willing.

      Lin and Amar’e make the offense much more diverse and more difficult to defend. The problem is that they’ve not played together at full strength, really ever (Because I don’t think Melo was ever right when Amar’e was right, and Lin’s knee was hurting him the last couple of weeks).

      I think it takes high usage score-first players longer to adjust to each other. The Celtics adjusted quickly because Rondo, Garnett and Pierce are more pass oriented players.

      However, the Knicks don’t need to have Celtics kind of ball movement to be extremely efficient on offense.

      I don’t think there’s a team in the NBA that can outscore Melo at 4, Amar’e at 5, with Lin and whatever combination of wings you want to throw out there.

    87. johnno

      ruruland: I’m not convinced of this yet.Look, we’ve only seen 10-12 games where Amar’e and Melo played with a solid pick and roll point guard. Last year for Amar’e, the numbers fell off in direct proportion to the difference in penetration and passing ability between Felton and Billups.

      Why does everyone think that Melo and Stat can’t coexist on offense? The stats don’t even come close to supporting that notion. Last year, in the month before the trade, Amare averaged 24.8 points and 8 rebounds on 50% shooting. In the month after the trade, Amare averaged 24.3 points and 8 rebounds on 52% shooting. Melo averaged 25 during that time. People seem to forget that, after the trade, the Knicks were one of the top offenses in the league. It was on defense that they struggled.

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