Knicks Morning News (2021.09.17)

  • Zach Harper’s Knicks offseason report: Overall grade, roster breakdown, goals for 2021-22 – The Athletic
    [theathletic.com] — Friday, September 17, 2021 7:03:21 AM

    Zach Harper’s Knicks offseason report: Overall grade, roster breakdown, goals for 2021-22  The Athletic

  • New York Knicks’ R.J. Barrett Is Surprisingly Ranked Higher Than This Player In NBA 2k22 – Sports Illustrated
    [www.si.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:57:35 PM

    New York Knicks’ R.J. Barrett Is Surprisingly Ranked Higher Than This Player In NBA 2k22  Sports Illustrated

  • Opinion: LiAngelo Ball? He Deserves To Be Signed By The Brooklyn Nets, New York Knicks Or Indiana Pacers For Training Camp – Sports Illustrated
    [www.si.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:53:24 PM

    Opinion: LiAngelo Ball? He Deserves To Be Signed By The Brooklyn Nets, New York Knicks Or Indiana Pacers For Training Camp  Sports Illustrated

  • Dallas Mavericks sign ex-New York Knicks guard, No. 8 pick Frank Ntilikina – UPI News
    [www.upi.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:40:36 PM

    Dallas Mavericks sign ex-New York Knicks guard, No. 8 pick Frank Ntilikina  UPI News

  • Mavericks sign Frank Ntilikina, former Knicks guard – The Athletic
    [theathletic.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:10:45 PM

    Mavericks sign Frank Ntilikina, former Knicks guard  The Athletic

  • NY Knicks: How a reunion could have added to Carmelo Anthony’s Legacy – Daily Knicks
    [dailyknicks.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 6:00:00 PM

    NY Knicks: How a reunion could have added to Carmelo Anthony’s Legacy  Daily Knicks

  • Opinion: LiAngelo Ball? He Deserves To Be Signed By The Brooklyn Nets, New York Knicks Or Indiana Pacers For Training Camp – Sports Illustrated
    [www.si.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 3:59:59 PM

    Opinion: LiAngelo Ball? He Deserves To Be Signed By The Brooklyn Nets, New York Knicks Or Indiana Pacers For Training Camp  Sports Illustrated

  • NY Knicks: 1 Trade NY should have made and 1 they shouldn’t have – Daily Knicks
    [dailyknicks.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 2:00:00 PM

    NY Knicks: 1 Trade NY should have made and 1 they shouldn’t have  Daily KnicksKnicks Players Who Will Determine NY’s Ceiling During 2021-22 NBA Season  Bleacher ReportThis Blazers-Knicks Trade Is Centered Around CJ McCollum  NBA Analysis NetworkWhat drives Julius Randle: Winning NBA MVP and ending Knicks’ title drought  Empire Sports MediaExploring Situational Lineups for the 2021-22 Knicks  The Knicks WallView Full Coverage on Google News

  • Breaking down Kevin Knox’s contract year with NY Knicks | NBA Analysis – Yahoo Sports
    [sports.yahoo.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:12:56 PM

    Breaking down Kevin Knox’s contract year with NY Knicks | NBA Analysis  Yahoo Sports

  • Q&A With Miles McBride: Expectations With Knicks, Playing At MSG, Summer League Experience – The Spun
    [thespun.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:05:37 PM

    Q&A With Miles McBride: Expectations With Knicks, Playing At MSG, Summer League Experience  The Spun

  • New York Knicks Guard Has a Big Fan in Damian Lillard – Heavy.com
    [heavy.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:32:44 PM

    New York Knicks Guard Has a Big Fan in Damian Lillard  Heavy.com

  • Will the Knicks break their losing streak against the 76ers in 2021-22? – Posting and Toasting
    [www.postingandtoasting.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:54:52 AM

    Will the Knicks break their losing streak against the 76ers in 2021-22?  Posting and Toasting

  • Knicks News: Damian Lillard raves about Immanuel Quickley, what’s in store for the young guard? – Empire Sports Media
    [empiresportsmedia.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 10:09:18 AM

    Knicks News: Damian Lillard raves about Immanuel Quickley, what’s in store for the young guard?  Empire Sports Media

  • What NBA insiders really think of the new-look Knicks – New York Post
    [nypost.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:20:00 AM

    What NBA insiders really think of the new-look Knicks  New York Post

  • 4 Knicks’ players on the roster bubble as training camp approaches – Empire Sports Media
    [empiresportsmedia.com] — Thursday, September 16, 2021 7:47:26 AM

    4 Knicks’ players on the roster bubble as training camp approaches  Empire Sports Media

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    1. For those interested, Zach Harper gave Knicks offseason a B-. He did not like the Bullock to Fournier transition, mostly due to the amount being paid to the latter. Here is his summary of Knicks prospects
      How do the Knicks turn the success of last season and the moves this summer into further success next year? That’s going to be tricky, simply due to the landscape in the Eastern Conference. The Knicks — barring massive injuries up and down the East — aren’t going to be better than Philadelphia (even with a Ben Simmons deal), Brooklyn or Milwaukee. It would take injuries to Miami for New York to be considered better than them as well. Boston shouldn’t be nearly as bad as it was last season, and Atlanta has established itself as a team knocking on the door of an upper tier in the conference. That could leave New York in the Play-In Tournament pool with teams like Chicago, Charlotte, Washington, Toronto and Indiana.

      Should the Knicks be better than those teams? Yes, I think they should. But that doesn’t mean things can’t get weird in a Play-In Tournament scenario.

      “With mostly the same group from the previous season, the Knicks went from 23rd in defensive rating to fourth in their first year under Thibodeau. That’s during a chaotic schedule of a season in which they didn’t really have time to practice a ton. That will change this season. Can the Knicks sustain — or even improve — that defensive execution all season long and manage to improve the offense as well? Will Walker and Fournier boost the offense that much? They went from 27th to 22nd under Thibodeau in one year, but they also didn’t have a lot of offensive options. That should change now, and they’ll need to find balance in order to build upon last season. If they find that balance, it may keep them out of the Play-In Tournament and bump one of their peers in the East down into the chaos.”

    2. ***Breaking down Kevin Knox’s contract year with NY Knicks | NBA Analysis Yahoo Sports***

      What is the word for the opposite of clickbait? Click repellant?

    3. Now the Giants’ iffy first-round pick is complaining about his role in the offense, two games into his rookie career. So things continue to go fantastic under Dave Gettleman.

    4. I hate Giants management so much, I’m starting to take a perverse amount of pleasure in the team’s ongoing ineptitude.

      same. except I’ve been taking that pleasure for 2 seasons before this and it hasn’t gotten anyone fired except Pat Shurmur.

    5. In 1925 a NYC bookie made the best bet of his life when he ponied up $2000 to buy the NY franchise of a fledgling pro football league. That turned out to be the last really smart football related decision ever made by a member of the Mara family.

      Problem was the bookie’s son, Wellington, believed his father’s prescience had gifted him with some kind of special insight into running a football team. By the 1960’s, he had run it into the ground. When the team hit its nadir in 1978 following the Pisarcik fumble, the NFL Commissioner knew he had to take steps to rescue the league’s flagship franchise from itself. That’s when Pete Rozelle took the unprecedented step of installing George Young as head of the Giants’ football operations, effectively relieving Wellington of that role.

      That turned the team’s fortunes around. Young hired Ray Perkins who hired the 2 Bills, Parcells & Belichick, and the rest is history. Wellington came to decide that he enjoyed winning more than being the big football brain so he kept himself and his family on the sidelines to let the football people do their thing. That’s how things remained until Wellington’s death in 2005.

      With Wellington gone and his eldest son, John, now in charge the Maras began reinserting themselves back into football operations. John’s brother, Chris, was named Vice President of Player Personnel in 2011, Earlier this year John’s nephew and former Giants ball boy, Tim McDonnell was hired as Co-Director of Player Personnel. In short, Maras have been making key operational decisions for the Giants following their last Super Bowl win. Is it any wonder that that has produced a decade of futility unseen in these parts since the last time a Mara was in that role?

      Doesn’t matter who is eventually hired to replace Gettleman and Judge when they are both inevitably fired. The organizational rot in the Giants franchise runs deep and its name is Mara.

    6. So how many New York teams are currently run by men whose only qualification for the job is that their dad own or owned it? Dolan, Mara, Hal Steinbrenner… I miss anybody?

    7. I think I remember Jowles using a safety squat bar in his infamous KB video. Anyone who has used SSBs: what’s your experience been like with this vs. a traditional barbell? What motivated you to make the change? My squat has been limited by my lower back despite good core strength/proper form and I’m thinking about making the switch after tweaking my back recently.

    8. kburt8:
      I think I remember Jowles using a safety squat bar in his infamous KB video.Anyone who has used SSBs: what’s your experience been like with this vs. a traditional barbell?What motivated you to make the change?My squat has been limited by my lower back despite good core strength/proper form and I’m thinking about making the switch after tweaking my back recently.

      I’m really taking advantage of offseason mode, so as to not annoy the shit out of GM DRed, so let me follow up on this.

      I will never go back to barbell back squats. Never. The camber of an SSB puts the back in a much better position (upright), far less torque on the spine near the pelvis. I used to do a low-bar squat because it felt more natural for my leg proportions, but occasionally went with high-bar when my hamstrings felt too sore from deadlifting. Never again. My wrists, elbows, shoulders and lower back are so much better for it.

      Lady Jowles and I squat the 531 program once a week, without fail. I have suffered zero injuries from the SSB in about three years of use, and I go ass-to-putting-green-grass, per the infamous video. I also do not use wraps or belts. I am not an elite athlete and I have never had good mobility. Because of the deep SSB squatting I have incredible mobility in my quads, hamstrings and hips. I don’t have a static stretching routines and I can put my palms on the ground from a standing position.

      If you are using a barbell for deadlifts, that’s what I’d fix first. The hex bar is a miracle for the lower back. I pulled 420 @ BW 165 with no belt and no wrist straps and aside from normal DOMS, I had no issues with back pain afterward.

      Straight bars are ancient tech at this point. I would do SSB for squat/good mornings, hex bar for deadlift (I still use a straight bar for Romanians) and a Swiss/football bar for bench, if not dumbbells.

    9. Also, my sister-in-law has a Titan SSB, and I find it adequate but not great. Doesn’t fit in a 3″x3″ Rogue squat rack, slightly too narrow between the cambers.

      The EliteFTS one is fantastic, and was worth every penny. (Lady Jowles has the physique of a 5’10” Maria Sakkari, and she never would squat this often or this much with a barbell. Her max is 225 x 3 with the SSB and she was the antithesis of an athlete in high school and college.) Should last me until I get to Z-man octogenarian territory.

      I think the Rogue one is pretty solid too, but I haven’t kept up on what’s changed since I bought the EliteFTS one. There are some others out there that are priced very high (Black Widow?) but I doubt it’s worth the extra cost unless you plan to be a competitive lifter or are using it in a commercial setting.

      One more thing: if you are having a big problem with barbell squats but can only afford a hex bar (buy a good one like the Titan v2 rackable hex bar or the superior Rogue version) OR a SSB, consider switching to a front squat with the barbell. It’ll be much better on your lower back. Might tweak your wrists, but there are ways around that.

    10. My ultimate reward for being a Giants football fan were the ’86, ’90. ’07 & ’11 seasons.

      As Mets fan, ’69 & ’86.

      And the Knicks? ’70 & ’73.

      Some would say that witnessing eight championships in a lifetime is pretty good return for any fan. But once I factor in that enjoying those eight titles were the payoff for a combined ~150 years of emotional investment in teams that have been pretty shitty by and large, I can’t help but wonder sometimes if it’s all been worth it.

      Especially now. Having reached my late 60s, I’m really starting to question whether I want to spend the scant years I have left on this planet emotionally invested in poorly run sports franchises. It’s not like I have decades to patiently wait for the Maras and Dolans of this world to figure things out.

      Last night was a serious gut punch for me as a Giants fan. I know that at my age I shouldn’t take this shit so seriously; that it’s only entertainment; and has no real bearing on my life but it’s also an emotional connection that’s been with me since I was a kid when it did seem like one of the most important things in the world. I’m not sure that’s something I really need in my life anymore, Rooting for sports is supposed to be enjoyable, and last night was anything but. Think I really need to reassess the level of my emotional commitment to all of the teams I root for.

      I know folks have high hopes for the Knicks this year. I also had high hopes for the Mets and Giants, too, going into this season. Think it’s time to take a page out of Donnie’s book and start viewing all of these teams with the amused detachment that their histories of chronic incompetence deserve. Fuck the Maras. Fuck Jim Dolan. And, yeah, fuck Steve Cohen, too – even though he just came on board. I shouldn’t let the playthings of those scions of privilege upset me so damn much anymore.

      ~rant over~

    11. I don’t think it’s possible to top the 2007 and 2011 seasons, so I’m pretty thankful that CTE has obliterated any enjoyment I can get out of the game.

    12. CDP Great post. As we are contemporaries, I have also witnessed the same chps. What made them even better was how awful these teams were prior to their respective chp runs ( cf. Yankees). I was also way less sophisticated about the teams back then, ergo ownership meant nothing. It’s tough to divorce oneself emotionally after being invested for so long.

    13. Miami I think is the most volatile of the East teams. If Lowry and Butler stay healthy all season, they’re definitely a top team but Lowry is old now and Butler is no spring chicken either.

      People are throwing in a lot of “ifs” for the Knicks to not be as good as they were last year.

      Randle would have to regress while RJ, Mitch, Quickley and Toppin all stay the same or regress a bit and Fournier and Kemba would all have to not be the offensive upgrade they so clearly are in order for the Knicks to not be the same or better than last year. I think we’re again being underrated bc we didn’t make some huge home run type move. But as many have pointed out, we were way better once we got Rose and we will have him all season. The first half we gave lots of minutes to Elf and Rivers and even Frank/Knox and those minutes are now replaced with Kemba and Fournier. Plus Mitch was hurt the second half of the season.

      Its like the opposite of all those bad years when I would justify how we might be good at the start of the season. If Calderon bounces back and MElo stays healthy and KP can contribute right away, etc. I would always have to add up a bunch of “ifs” in order to justify how we could be decent. Now I have to add up a bunch of negative “ifs” in order for us to not be good. The east is better but so are we. I think we’ll be right where we were last year but deeper in the regular season and better prepared for the playoffs. Its also the first season in ages where we actually have the same core coming back (with clear, defined upgrades).

    14. Philly is also volatile, as there’s no guarantee they’ll get anything of value out of Simmons. He had a dreadful playoffs and deserves a lot of criticism for the way he vanished during the series, but he’s also a perennial DPOY candidate who is outstanding at transition offense and setting up his teammates. Even if Maxey takes a big step this year, you’re not realistically doing any addition by subtraction by getting rid of a ball-handling 6’10” player who can guard 90% of the league’s players.

    15. Count, you nailed the Giants history with the Maras. My father was a diehard Giants fan since the 40’s, but he could not stomach the decline years in the late 60’s-70’s. Letting Lombardi and Landry leave and watching Sherman take the coaching reins angered him to no end. When the team moved to the Meadowlands he officially became a Giants and Mara hater. My Giants fandom was constantly answered by his “Beat the Giants” chants. The Maras are the reason so many Cowboy fans live in NY.

    16. I agree that Philly is no lock to be Top3, all is going to depend on how the Ben Simmons situation is handled. Also i think the press is showing too much respect for the Celtics, they have Brown and Tatum, ok that’s a very good core, but besides those two the team is a mess. And the cherry on top is Schroder’s ability to ruin the locker room balance.

    17. Think I really need to reassess the level of my emotional commitment to all of the teams I root for.

      hey penny counter, i’d like to refer you to the do what donnie do fan satisfaction and sanity program…basically, sometimes it’s much better to be more cautious with your fan devotion…i mean, knowing the most likely outcome of a sporting event involving your team will result in a lost – in the case of the new york giants, most likely a depressing and discouraging loss – limit your connection to the activity…most definitely limit your emotional investment…

      at this point expecting “feel good” results from being a giant’s fan – is pretty much not gonna happen…accept and adjust…

      i wish i had learned this lesson years ago reference the knicks…for whatever reason i felt somewhat obligated to endure watching terrible knicks basketball for a few years just so i could post here in a somewhat coherent fashion about what was taking place on the court…

      time is short…or, really long, depending on what you’re doing…what is constant though is that time is a precious and limited resource for us…

    18. Color me unimpressed with the Marcus Smart/Dennis Schroeder backcourt. The Celtics look mediocre to me on paper.

    19. It seems Titan updated their design and essentially made a copy of the EliteFTS product, though possibly still a little shorter between the camber. True Olympic sizing is a plus. My rack is quite wide, so will have to break out the tape measurer. Now you’ve got me thinking about swiss bars, haha.

    20. People are throwing in a lot of “ifs” for the Knicks to not be as good as they were last year.

      To clarify my position: when I said the Knicks are unlikely to improve I meant with regard to their standing in the conference.

      Even with modest improvement, I see the 6th seed as our ceiling.

    21. I’m more or less where you’re at, Hubert. I expect the team to be better than last year — some of that depends on Walker’s health (both availability and how much he can do when he plays), but we’re deeper now and just the ability to not ever have to play Elfrid Payton is huge — but I also expect several teams that had Seasons From Hell last year to rebound. So our quality of play can be improved even while our record and/or seeding will probably be worse.

    22. The benefit of the barbell grip is extra pec activation but at the cost of your elbows and shoulders. Neutral grip with a cambered bar just hits the delts more, according to some study I read this year. I’d rather have long-term joint health than 10% more pec work. I have a Titan cambered bar and I don’t enjoy the full neutral grip. Would definitely go with a 30-45 degree angle all the way through the bar, and the camber really doesn’t do that much. I would buy a straight Swiss bar from EliteFTS if I could do it again.

    23. Personally, I think Miami is the most overrated team in the league. It was true last year and I think it’ll be true again this year. Sure, Miami upgraded from a washed up Dragic to a mostly washed up Lowry, but that’s nowhere near the improvement from Elf to Kemba/Rose. The bubble was a fluke.

      Boston had a horror tale of a season, but part of that was Kemba’s injury. Update: they don’t have Kemba anymore. Even with injury Kemba may outperform Schroeder. Last year Kemba had 2.5 OBPM & Schroder had -1.1 OBPM.

    24. That’s more or less my position also. We’ll probably need some upside surprises or good luck to break into the upper level. It’s not impossible, but I’m tempering my enthusiasm even though the team is better.

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