Knicks Morning News (2021.09.13)

  • Column: Is it better to pay or punish the unvaccinated? – Tulsa World
    [tulsaworld.com] — Monday, September 13, 2021 1:00:00 AM

    Column: Is it better to pay or punish the unvaccinated?  Tulsa World

  • Giannis Of The Bucks, Draymond Of The Warriors, Julius Randle Of The Knicks? Who’s The Best Power Forward In The NBA? – Sports Illustrated
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    Giannis Of The Bucks, Draymond Of The Warriors, Julius Randle Of The Knicks? Who’s The Best Power Forward In The NBA?  Sports Illustrated

  • NY Knicks: Who Should Start ? Mitchell Robinson or Nerlens Noel? – Daily Knicks
    [dailyknicks.com] — Sunday, September 12, 2021 2:00:00 PM

    NY Knicks: Who Should Start ? Mitchell Robinson or Nerlens Noel?  Daily Knicks

  • 4 NBA Players Who Could Still Use A Change Of Scenery – NBA Analysis Network
    [www.nbaanalysis.net] — Sunday, September 12, 2021 1:37:28 PM

    4 NBA Players Who Could Still Use A Change Of Scenery  NBA Analysis Network

  • 3 Trade Targets For New York Knicks To Still Consider – NBA Analysis Network
    [www.nbaanalysis.net] — Sunday, September 12, 2021 11:59:37 AM

    3 Trade Targets For New York Knicks To Still Consider  NBA Analysis Network

  • NY Knicks: Reacting to a proposed Malik Beasley to NY trade – Daily Knicks
    [dailyknicks.com] — Sunday, September 12, 2021 10:00:00 AM

    NY Knicks: Reacting to a proposed Malik Beasley to NY trade  Daily Knicks

  • Knicks: Two versions of Kemba Walker result in feast or famine – Empire Sports Media
    [empiresportsmedia.com] — Sunday, September 12, 2021 7:48:33 AM

    Knicks: Two versions of Kemba Walker result in feast or famine  Empire Sports Media

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    58 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2021.09.13)”

    1. The title of the Sports Illustrated’s article is hilarious, it immediately brought memories of Game of Thrones.
      It’s just missing the “house”, so let’s correct it:
      Giannis Of The House Bucks, Draymond Of The House Warriors, Julius Of The House Knicks? Who’s The Best?

    2. Speaking of Bob Neptune….

      I wasn’t bothered by his tucker carlson bit as much as others, but what **really** got me was his constant stanning for Dave Gettelman. God I hate that guy. How does he still have a job? If, with four straight years of top 10 picks, you draft a RB, a QB, a LT, and a WR, and your offense still sucks, it’s time to move on.

    3. Gettleman is as much of a stubborn dinosaur as Phil Jackson was. I would rejoice at the thought of him being fired, but the Giants will almost certainly replace him with someone from in house.

    4. Are the Knicks the second best NY team right now?
      Hows this for an unofficial ranking? (leaving out Hockey…)
      Nets
      Knicks
      Mets?
      Yanks
      Gmen
      Jets Jets Jets

    5. If I had to pick one, It’d probably have to be Blood on the Tracks. Named my daughter Hazel, after the song on Planet Waves…

    6. I told y’all Daniel Jones was a reach

      *everyone* knew Jones was a reach at 6. I thought he graded as a 2nd round QB. But there have been times where, despite being a reach, he seemed like he might pan out. It’s been a while since one of those times.

    7. Are the Knicks the second best NY team right now?
      Hows this for an unofficial ranking? (leaving out Hockey…)

      I’d rank them in tiers (and I’ll include hockey):

      championship caliber teams: Nets

      teams exceeding expectations: Knicks, Islanders

      teams who are massively disappointing their fans: Yankees, Mets

      teams who are embarrassing to follow: Giants

      bad teams with encouraging young pieces and seemingly competent management in place: Jets, Rangers

    8. There’s no point trying to pick one Dylan album. They’re all pretty brilliant between ’63-’76 with some awesome spots of brilliance after that. It has been a truly amazing run.

    9. Knew Your Nicks: Can’t stand Astral Weeks

      Pretty tough for me to come to Van’s defense now that he’s revealed himself to be an ardent Anti-Vaxxer. I’ll just say the man made some pretty damn good records back in the day, not the least of which was Astral Weeks.

      That said, he was no Stratos Dionysiou,

    10. As for Dylan…

      I can better appreciate his artistry when his songs are sung by someone other than Bob Dylan. His voice just works my nerves,

    11. Count de Pennies:
      As for Dylan…

      I can better appreciate his artistry when his songs are sung by someone other than bob Dylan. His voice just works my nerves,

      Best Dylan covers would be a pretty good thread …..

    12. All Along the Watchtower – Hendrix
      Mr. Tambourine Man – The Byrds
      Don’t Think Twice – Susan Tedeschi
      Make You Feel My Love – Adele

    13. #Pretty tough for me to come to Van’s defense now that he’s revealed himself to be an ardent Anti-Vaxxer. I’ll just say the man made some pretty damn good records back in the day, not the least of which was Astral Weeks.

      That said, he was no Stratos Dionysiou,#

      :-)

      I’m a sucker for minor keys music as most greeks
      (Joy Division are my fave ever) but i just can’t relate to Van’s ‘cat whining’ on astral weeks…
      And i truly love his “Them” period!

      Stratos Dionysiou is one of the best singers coming from GR along with Stelios Kazantzidis amd Grigoris Bithikotsis.
      Unfortunately the genres he used to sing weren’t too delicate to call it aesthetically pleasing but when it comes to ntalgkas (Love Pain/Heartache) Stratos is tough to beat.
      One more Stratos singer worth investigating if you love Adventurous JazzRock is Area’s singer/keybordist Demetrio Stratos.

    14. Van Morrison has been a total asshole his whole life, this is nothing new.

      Made some good records though.

    15. Raven:
      Mr. Tambourine Man — William Shatner

      Shatner shouting, “Mr. Tamborine Man!!” at the very end of the song (the first time I heard it) remains one of the great spit-take moments of my life! Until that moment…stunned amusement.

    16. Dylan covers that are (probably) better than the originals (off the op of my head):

      Richie Havens – Just Like a Woman
      Joe Cocker/Leon Russell – Girl From The North Country
      Nina Simone – Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues
      Guy Davis – What’s a Sweetheart Like You Doing In A Dump Like This
      Tom Petty – License to Kill
      Sam Cooke – Blowin’ in the Wind
      Leon Russell – Hard Rain
      The O’Jays – Emotionally Yours
      Ron Isley – Lay, Lady, Lay
      Eddie Vedder – Masters Of War
      The Band – Tears Of Rage
      Bruce Springsteen – Chimes Of Freedom
      Jimi Hendrix – Watchtower
      Calexico – Goin’ to Acapulco

    17. Did not know the Isleys did Lay Lady Lay. Thanks for that.

      I will take this opportunity to give props to their The Heat is On album, which I think doesn’t get enough attention as a seminal piece of work.

    18. I like Emmylou Harris’ version of “Every Grain Of Sand” better than Dylan’s, but in almost all cases I prefer Dylan’s original.

      Nico’s cover of “I’ll Keep It With Mine” is another one of my favorite Dylan covers.

    19. (If I was really being honest, actually, I think I actually prefer Dylan’s Watchtower to Hendrix’s and kind of regret including it on the above list. Dylan’s is an extremely evocative recording, and if we are penalizing Dylan for not having a good voice, I think Jimi’s a pretty terrible singer too who, like Dylan, had greater skills that transcend his vocal shortcomings).

      (Also, I am sure there are a few that I am forgetting that should be on the list, and I’m sure there are a bunch that should be there that I don’t even know about. But I went deep into Dylan back when I was young, and I used to collect covers of his songs. And the list above are the songs that stood out, to me, as taking the original ideas (bob basically just recorded ideas) and made them into more complete songs.

    20. Neil Young’s Blowin in the wind in his live album Weld always give me the chills
      And Father of night by Manfred Mann kicks ass too!
      …but the original ones have their own unique charm and so much “truth” that I can’t say they’re worse…just different

    21. I like the cover of “Masters of War” by Eddie Vedder and Mike McCready on Dylan’s 30th anniversary concert.

      “And I’ll watch as you’re lowered
      Into your deathbed
      And I’ll stand over your grave
      ‘Til I’m sure that you’re dead”

    22. Hendrix does a really great version of “Tears of Rage,” but it’s just a really phenomenal song, I suppose.

      Fairport Convention’s “I’ll Keep it with Mine,” Van’s “Baby Blue,” simone’s “I Shall be Released,” and Jim James’ “Goin to Acapulco” are all other fav Dylan covers.

    23. ***and Jim James’ “Goin to Acapulco” are all other fav Dylan covers.***

      Yeah, this is the Calexico version I referenced above. (I have no idea who Jim James is, and I saw Calexico open for Amos Lee once and they were just okay, but this Goin’ To Acapulco version they do was by far the best thing to come out of that Todd Haynes movie I thought.

    24. “some awesome spots of brilliance after that…”

      Like “Infidels”

      As to covers, how about “I Got You Babe”- Sonny and Cher (LOL)

      This site blows my mind. Y’all even know more than me about Dylan!

    25. I’m honestly not convinced the Jets are worse than the Giants. I think it may be the other way around.

    26. Knick fan not in NJ:
      I’m honestly not convinced the Jets are worse than the Giants. I think it may be the other way around.

      i am going to the jet home opener this week…flying out tomorrow…looking forward to seeing zach in person..

    27. this wu-tang series on hulu is much better than I expected. usually when artists tell their own stories it’s a puff piece but this is actually a quality drama. our old friend jamie hector does a good job in it, but it’s mostly filled with new talent.

    28. The Wu Tang documentary was amazing. I was practically in tears during parts of it. I had the pleasure of meeting Raekwon once, I was in awe.

    29. there’s both a documentary and a dramatic series. the series is about to drop a new season, and that’s what brought it to my attention (season 1 was 2 years ago).

    30. Knew Your Nicks: Stratos Dionysiou is one of the best singers coming from GR along with Stelios Kazantzidis amd Grigoris Bithikotsis.

      I’ve been on a serious laiko binge lately and, for me, Stratos is #1. His records – especially his earlier stuff from the 1960s – have been in heavy rotation on the turntable here. “Last Night at the Tavern” is my jam!

      I dig Kazantzidis, too, but I think he’s harder for me – as a non-Greek – to fully appreciate. He’s clearly influenced many Greek singers who have come after him and seems to have spawned a host of imitators. Although that’s a tribute to his greatness, having heard all of those generic Stelios wannabes over the years have made his style seem less unique to my untrained American ear. Stratos, on the other hand, just sounds different to me than anyone else and that’s why he’s at the top of my playlist.

      Of course, we’re talking really small sample sizes here. It’s not like I have crates stuffed with laiko records. Just a few dozen. And not speaking a word of Greek, I have no idea what any of them are singing about and I’m sure it would change my thinking if I could hear how skilled the singers were at interpreting the lyrics. All I can do is respond to the sound of the voice as another instrument in the ensemble. In other words, I really don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about when it comes to Greek music but I’ve developed some clear preferences among the little that I do know.

      Have never heard of Bithikotsis before and I’ll definitely check him out. Thanks for the tip!

    31. A friend of mine worked for MTV a long time ago and he got his hands on a tape of an uncut Ghostface/Raekwon interview they shot to promo the 2nd wutang album. They were both high as shit and they had a bag of chips on the floor between the two of them that they kept eating from. The producer kept trying to explain to them that they couldn’t eat chips because the mics they were wearing would pick up the crunching but they were so high that whichever one of them wasn’t talking would start eating chips and you’d hear it over the other guys answer. The producer would interrupt and tell them not to eat chips again and they’d agree, and they’d ask a question and while one of the was answering you’d hear the crunching start up again. It’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.

    32. This Raider game is nuts

      A whole year of people saying Josh Jacobs sucks seems to have motivated him.

    33. There’s way too many good Dylan covers for me to narrow it down, but I will note that I was always fond of Rod Stewart’s streak of doing Dylan covers on his early albums. Not saying they were the best, but whenever I think about Dylan covers, I think of that streak he had there in the early 70s putting one Dylan cover on each of his albums from 1970-74, including his final Faces album (before Stewart’s music started to really kind of suck at the end of the decade).

    34. Nina Simone did some great Dylan covers: Just Like A Woman, I Shall Be Released, Ballad Of Hollis Brown

    35. @Count de Pennies
      Check out these ones
      They’re Iconic in the Laiko genre:

      Bithikotsis – Drapetsona
      Bithikotsis – Vrehei sti Ftohogeitoneia
      Kazantzidis – Yparho
      Kazantzidis – I zoi mou oli
      Stratos – Vrehei fotia sti strata mou
      Stratos – Itan pseftika
      Mitsias – As ton trelo stin trela tou

      *And definitely check out Vassilis Tsitsanis
      He’s the Patriarch of Laiko in Greece
      And a Top Composer of all times imo

    36. pepper: i am going to the jet home opener this week…flying out tomorrow…looking forward to seeing zach in person..

      Enjoy. I hope they play well

    37. I always thought that covering an already great track is not going to end up well for the artist who tries to do it but there are many examples that prove me wrong over the years.
      Moby’s New Dawn Fades cover on Joy Division classic kicked my mouth pretty hard recently!

      Savvopoulos – O paliatsos ki o listis is a pretty guttsy dylan-watchtower cover in greek!

    38. Knew Your Nicks: I always thought that covering an already great track is not going to end up well for the artist who tries to do it but there are many examples that prove me wrong over the years.

      Same here. Started to change my mind when i first heard “Sweet Jane” on a version by the Cowboy Junkies. What a great version that is. And is beautifully inserted on the “Natural Born Killers” movie. Which i find a great movie, btw.

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