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Thursday, June 27, 2019

Knicks Morning News (2019.04.14)

  • [Sports Illustrated] Hall of Famer Patrick Ewing to Serve as Knicks’ Representative at Draft Lottery
    (Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:55:11 PM)

    Ewing was drafted by the Knicks with the first-overall pick in 1985.

  • [YahooSports] Report: Patrick Ewing to represent Knicks at NBA draft lottery for a chance to select Zion
    (Saturday, April 13, 2019 1:30:28 PM)

    Former New York Knicks star Patrick Ewing is rumored to be representing the struggling franchise at next month’s NBA draft lottery. The New York Knicks are counting on Patrick Ewing to be their good luck charm at next month’s NBA draft lottery, according to ESPN. Ewing, who was New York’s last first overall pick has been tasked to represent the franchise in hopes they can land NCAA superstar Zion Williamson.

  • [Hoops Rumors] Knicks Notes: Jordan, Ewing, Williamson, Fizdale, Coaching Staff
    (Saturday, April 13, 2019 11:42:42 AM)

    The Knicks acquired veteran center DeAndre Jordan as part of the Kristaps Porzingis blockbuster in February. Jordan was viewed as a potential buyout candidate; a veteran player likely interested in latching on with a contending team. However, he finished out the season in New York. Head coach David Fizdale said this week that the Knicks […]

  • [NYPost] Now hear this: New York’s loudest sports moments
    (Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:13:19 PM)

    I won’t pretend this is any kind of complete list. I have no idea, for instance, what the old Polo Grounds sounded like in 1921 and ’22 when the Yankees and the Giants played every World Series game there. I never set foot inside Ebbets Field or the Old Garden, so I can’t tell you…

  • [NYTimes] N.B.A. Photographers ‘Do It for the Gram,’ Too
    (Saturday, April 13, 2019 5:33:32 PM)

    New technology and the rise of social media have changed what it means to take pictures of the N.B.A. One new requirement: making the athletes look good on Instagram.

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    33 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2019.04.14)

    1. alsep73

      So which of yesterday’s Game 1 upsets seems most likely to lead to a series upset? Nets, because Atkinson >>>>> Brown, while the Sixers roster is mismatched? Magic, because Playoff Lowry stinks? Or Spurs, because the Nuggets are inexperienced and going up against Pop?

    2. The Glass Half Rebuilt

      I like SAS over Denver the most just because Pop is a much better coach than Mike Malone (and Mike Malone isn’t even a bad coach), DeRozan/LMA have a wealth of playoff experience between themselves, and Denver doesn’t have an offensive player I would categorize as unstoppable.

      I wonder if an early playoff exit would make Denver trade some of their youth for Anthony Davis.

    3. Frank

      Yikes that knee brace on Embiid- according to @profootballdoc that is a sign of likely chronic arthritis = limited lifespan.

    4. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      The idea that you can compete for a title by surrounding LeBron with shooters has clearly passed its sell-buy date. If LeBron really wants to win a title in LA, he’s going to have to make the same sacrifices for the team that Bosh and Love made for him.

      IMO, the idea that you should have one player doing everything and construct the team around him is kind of flawed from the start. For one thing, if that player is hurt or resting, you are probably screwed because in all likelihood you won’t have another player like him and won’t have the pieces you need to run things effectively in a different manner when he’s out (Wade being one possible exception) .

      Also, just because a player can do everything, that does not mean there aren’t players that do one of those things better than him.

      If Michael Jordan was asked to get 10 assists per night to go along with his 30 efficient points and all time great defense, I’d bet any amount of money he could do it. If we asked him to average a triple double he could probably do that too or at least get close.

      But would that have made the Bulls better?

      It would have made his personal boxscore stats look better, but I doubt it they would have been as good as they were with Pippen often handling the ball and running the offense and Rodman getting all the rebounds and playing defense.

    5. Hubert

      The Sixers are the embodiment of the team-building philosophy I was arguing against a few months ago. If the Knicks do a stars and scrubs approach with KD, Durant, and Fizdale, they will most likely end up like these guys.

      I wouldn’t be shocked to see them lose but I think they’ll prevail in 7 and all the favorites move on.

    6. Early Bird

      The Sixers are the embodiment of the team-building philosophy I was arguing against a few months ago. If the Knicks do a stars and scrubs approach with KD, Durant, and Fizdale, they will most likely end up like these guys.

      They’ll end up with a young core that will compete for a championship every year for at least the next half decade barring injury? How awful. Let’s at least wait until they lose the series to complain.

      Even if it doesn’t work for Philly, it did work pretty damn well for Boston and Miami. I really don’t understand why you wouldn’t want them, the alternative isn’t build a solid team and then buy superstars, it’s likely cap out with a mediocre team and then rebuild again.

    7. ess-dog

      That Nets team has good depth – something the Sixers lack. So if Ben or Embid goes down or have off games, they don’t have an answer. Ed Davis, Dinwiddie, and Levert were awesome off the bench. Idk how you do it in today’s nba, but a team with that kind of depth is a nice thing to have.

    8. rama got that Fizdale Magic

      Thing is, I like Horford, so I can’t root against them that hard, particularly against the Pacers.

    9. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      the only way to explain an opponent’s 8-point quarter is that the Boy Wonder “made” “some” “adjustments”

    10. chrisconley

      Spurs! I totally intended to bet them but have been busy as shit the past few days.

      I just had the frightening thought that there is a very real chance a top-6 record lottery team (please not Dallas) jumps into the top 4, Memphis drops to 9, loses their pick to the Celtics, and the Cs grab Brandon Clarke who CBS has falling to 11th in their latest mock from earlier today.

    11. chrisconley

      How ridiculous will it be when the Knicks take Reddish/Little at 5 and the Cs get Clarke at 9!? Rhetorical question. Please dont answer.

    12. ptmilo

      i know portland has an early lead but if they play enes 25mp+ they cannot win this series.

    13. ptmilo

      there should a word for when a guard can beat his defender but is smart enough to slow play it just enough so he can beat him at the rim without help coming. we haven’t had one of those in a long time. kidd and pablo were smart enough of course but by the time we had them their fastballs were their changeups.

    14. Hubert

      Even if it doesn’t work for Philly, it did work pretty damn well for Boston and Miami.

      Boston? You mean the team that supported three hall of famers with Kendrick Perkins and Rajon Rondo? Who was the weak link in that starting 5? That team was built perfectly.

      Miami pulled it off, yes. They had a player considered by many to be the GOAT, an outstanding coach, and got lucky AF with their “scrubs”. That’s an extremely hard model to duplicate.

    15. Hubert

      They’ll end up with a young core that will compete for a championship every year for at least the next half decade barring injury?

      Will they?

      They look like a perrennial 2nd round playoff team to me that’s about to get rimrocked with their roster flexibility.

    16. Bruno Almeida

      I think people are underrating Kanter a lot and overrating Nurkic. Yes he’s a huge negative on defense, but he has 15 boards already and is scoring very well, in a game where Lillard is being ineffective. Kanter is still very productive despite his flaws, but this has gotten lost in the narrative.

    17. d-mar

      From the “what have you done for me lately “ school of announcing, Schroeder makes 2 baskets and Mark Jackson starts gushing about him.

      Meanwhile, he’s 4-15

    18. Bruno Almeida

      @22

      So much for him being “unplayable” I guess.

      The worst thing is Breen having to deal with Mark Jackson, going from Clyde to him must be a terrible experience for him.

    19. ptmilo

      oh yes point proven. the worst drapm player in nba history leads his team to a single 5 point home win in which the opponent shot 5-33 from three and the but double double contrarians of the north may claim their spoils. the enes sucking narrative is officially debunked as rumor and fairytale.

    20. MBunge

      oh yes point proven.

      I don’t think the point is that Enes is great or anything…because he’s not.

      I think the point is that there’s something screwy when fans of the worst team of the league term a guy who can get you a double-double on almost any night “unplayable” while simultaneously losing their minds about a guy who plays the same position who, I believe, got 4 or fewer rebounds in 24 games this season and didn’t score a single point from beyond 19 feet in today’s NBA.

      Mike

    21. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      Nurkic is actually really really good (every metric agrees on this). And Kanter is very overrated by box score metrics because they don’t capture just how horrible–how truly, soul-rendingly bad–he is on the defensive end. I thought that at the very least that the members of this board wouldn’t take the double-doubles seriously if only given that we’ve had to endure his defensive lapses for well over a year. This is the guy who Billy Donovan (“can’t play Kanter”) had to take out against Houston because he was targeted literally every possession. If he’s succeeding, it’s only because the other team is too dumb to take advantage. He’s the definition of basketball empty calories.

    22. Bruno Almeida

      Yeah, I never said he was great you know? Just that this reputation of being unplayable that follows Kanter wherever he goes is bullshit. Even if he was the literal worst defender in NBA history, there’s still a lot of value in what he does bring to a team, and today was a good example, example, not proof, of it.

    23. Bruno Almeida

      @26
      If you truly think his rebounding made no difference in the game today, you’re crazy. I’ve never said he’s better than Nurkic too, or even that he’s on the same level, just that people are overrating the impact the switch from Nurkic to Kanter has had on this Blazers team, turning a OKC team that can’t shoot and has been stumbling for weeks into the hands down favorite against the 3rd seed in the West.

    24. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      I’m not arguing that he might have been a plus this game, I’m arguing that he’s likely to not be a plus over 7 games, and that if he is a plus in any individual game it’s because the other team simply failed to take advantage of the worst defensive player in the league.

      Kanter has a -1.74 PIPM, good for 412th in the league, and a -1.78 RAPM, good for 60th among NBA centers.

      His offense is likely overrated (negative OPIPM and ORAPM, actually) because he’s a complete black hole who doesn’t create and who completely fucks your spacing up. When he was on the Knicks this year, opposing PPP was 1.169, which would lead the league in PPP by a fair margin. The Warriors would be second at 1.124.

      When Enes Kanter is on the floor teams on average play better offense than the Golden State Warriors. That’s by definition unplayable unless you’re one of the greatest offensive players of all time.

      I don’t mean to accuse you of saying that Nurk is overrated–I just think a lot of people actually underrate him. He’s the second best player on that team by a wide margin. Kanter is not a suitable replacement in any sense.

    25. Bruno Almeida

      He might still be unplayable against the Rockets and the Warriors, but does that mean he’s simply unplayable all the time against all the other teams, who are not quite literally some of the best offenses we’ve ever seen in the history of the league? How many Centers are even playable against the Warriors or against Harden anyway, the guy who destroyed Rudy freaking Gobert in the playoffs last season?

      All I’m saying is that the pendulum has swung too far on this one, from praising his production to arguing that everything he does is empty calories in every single game.

    26. Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019

      When Enes Kanter is on the floor teams on average play better offense than the Golden State Warriors

      Yes but he was on the floor with other Knicks. It’s not that he is good on defense, but the team around you matters when assessing your impact on defense. If he is surrounded by decent defenders then the overall numbers when he’s on the floor will be better than when he was on the Knick’s

    27. Early Bird

      Boston? You mean the team that supported three hall of famers with Kendrick Perkins and Rajon Rondo? Who was the weak link in that starting 5? That team was built perfectly.

      Go look at Perkins and Rondos numbers from the year before and tell me they weren’t going into that year with stars and scrubs.

      Miami pulled it off, yes. They had a player considered by many to be the GOAT, an outstanding coach, and got lucky AF with their “scrubs”. That’s an extremely hard model to duplicate.

      So, you’re saying it worked? Sounds like the two times teams tried it, it worked.

      The Knicks are going in with Mitch, a top 5 pick, and some decent young players. I don’t see it being too different than either of those two. Arguably better, since Mitch and the 5 pick will be there after.

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