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Knicks Morning News (2019.03.13)

  • [NYDN] Knicks fall to Pacers on James Dolan day
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:00:00 PM)

    INDIANAPOLIS — Bojan Bogdanovic scored 24 points and Darren Collison made two free throws 19.5 seconds left to help the Indiana Pacers slip past the New York Knicks 103-98 on Tuesday night.

    Indiana snapped its two-game losing streak and remained tied with Philadelphia for the No. 3 spot in the…

  • [NYDN] New video amplifies James Dolan’s story about Knicks heckler
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 4:30:00 PM)

    Let’s go to the Knicks tape.

    Video from inside Madison Square Garden appears to show James Dolan’s famous heckler making his way across multiple sections before mildly ordering the Knicks owner to sell the franchise following the team’s 53rd loss of the season on Saturday.

    That brief interaction…

  • [NYDN] James Dolan: Knicks rival is sabotaging our foolproof free agency plan
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:55:00 PM)

    James Dolan almost assured the Knicks will land a top free agent this summer, claiming he’s been informed by either players or agents that the signatures are coming. He also accused a rival GM of planting a story to sabotage New York’s free agency.

    Those were among the highlights Tuesday of a long…

  • [Newsday] Knicks fall to Pacers on James Dolan day
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:00:00 PM)

    INDIANAPOLIS — Bojan Bogdanovic scored 24 points and Darren Collison made two free throws 19.5 seconds left to help the Indiana Pacers slip past the New York Knicks 103-98 on Tuesday night.

    Indiana snapped its two-game losing streak and remained tied with Philadelphia for the No. 3 spot in the…

  • [Newsday] New video amplifies James Dolan’s story about Knicks heckler
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 4:30:00 PM)

    Let’s go to the Knicks tape.

    Video from inside Madison Square Garden appears to show James Dolan’s famous heckler making his way across multiple sections before mildly ordering the Knicks owner to sell the franchise following the team’s 53rd loss of the season on Saturday.

    That brief interaction…

  • [Newsday] James Dolan: Knicks rival is sabotaging our foolproof free agency plan
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:55:00 PM)

    James Dolan almost assured the Knicks will land a top free agent this summer, claiming he’s been informed by either players or agents that the signatures are coming. He also accused a rival GM of planting a story to sabotage New York’s free agency.

    Those were among the highlights Tuesday of a long…

  • [Sports Illustrated] Barkley on Durant Possibly Signing With Knicks: ‘You Ain’t Tough Enough For New York’
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:51:23 PM)

    Charles Barkley says Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving aren’t tough enough to play in New York.

  • [Hoops Rumors] Knicks, Hawks, Suns Carrying Most 2018/19 Dead Money
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:59:25 PM)

    All but two of the NBA’s 30 teams are carrying some sort of “dead money” on their salary cap for 2018/19. This dead money is created as a result of having, at some point, waived a player who had guaranteed money left on his contract (or having 10-day contracts expire). In some cases, teams are […]

  • [Hoops Rumors] Knicks Notes: Hezonja, Dolan, Scouting
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:53:00 AM)

    Knicks head coach David Fizdale recently spoke about the challenges presented by having a roster packed with free-agents-to-be who might be tempted to focus on improving their stock for the summer rather than playing team-first ball. However, Mario Hezonja believes he’s been able to stick to Fizdale’s desired style of play despite his upcoming unrestricted […]

  • [NYTimes] In Rare Interview, James Dolan Insists He Won’t Sell Knicks
    (Wednesday, March 13, 2019 12:08:36 AM)

    Dolan, who has been in the news over his argument with a fan over the weekend, said in a radio interview he would not part with the team, even for $6 billion.

  • [NYTimes] A Fan Yells ‘Sell the Team.’ Did Knicks Owner James Dolan Threaten Him?
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:53:55 AM)

    Dolan called the shouted comment rude and suggested the fan would only be able to watch the team on TV — which might be just as well in an ugly season.

  • [ESPN] Dolan says banned Knicks fan set up an ‘ambush’
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 6:26:59 PM)

    New York Knicks owner James Dolan said the fan who told him to “sell the team” on Saturday has been banned. Dolan called the confrontation an “ambush.”

  • [NYPost] One incredibly crazy day in New York sports — plus Aunt Becky
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:59:36 PM)

    They say this is the city never sleeps. Good thing. Because if you slept at all during the 24 ½ hours from 12:01 a.m. Tuesday, March 12 until around 12:30 a.m. on Wednesday, March 12 … well, there’s no telling how much you missed, so hopefully it was a good nap. Actually, that’s not true….

  • [NYPost] James Dolan: Knicks will be an attractive spot for free agents
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:46:54 PM)

    Knicks owner James Dolan doesn’t believe the bad optics of kicking fans out of the Garden — or of a dead-last finish — will spoil the team’s plans to land marquee free agents this summer. By shipping out Kristaps Porzingis and others at the trade deadline, the Knicks are expected to have enough salary-cap space…

  • [NYPost] Knicks keep plummeting after James Dolan’s big 2019-20 talk
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 5:52:06 PM)

    INDIANAPOLIS — Don’t worry, an “extremely dramatic’’ change will happen by next season, according to overly optimistic Knicks owner James Dolan. On a night when Dolan predicted free-agent coups and a deep playoff run for 2019-2020, the Knicks’ current tank machine fell deeper into the hole after building a 10-point lead in the first half…

  • [NYPost] Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving aren’t ‘tough enough’ for Knicks glory: Barkley
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:26:36 PM)

    Charles Barkley isn’t sure if Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving have thick enough skin for New York, but, if they do, he thinks they could end up as legendary as Mark Messier. Every year, prior to the NCAA Tournament, Turner and CBS hold their March Madness media day, and this time around two things are…

  • [NYPost] Here’s James Dolan’s video ‘proof’ that fan ‘ambushed’ him
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 2:56:47 PM)

    Madison Square Garden video shows the origin of the confrontation between Knicks owner James Dolan and a fan, which Dolan claimed as proof he was being “stalked” around the arena. The clip, obtained by ESPN NY Radio, shows the fan walking down and across multiple sections, waiting for Dolan to walk away from his courtside…

  • [NYPost] James Dolan claims banned Knicks fan set up an ‘ambush’
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 2:07:04 PM)

    James Dolan stands by expelling a fan from Madison Square Garden for heckling him and demanding he sell the Knicks, even using the words “ambush” and “stalking” to describe Saturday’s incident. For any Knicks fans dreaming otherwise, Dolan also unequivocally declared, “For the record, I’m not selling the team and I’m not quitting” during an…

  • [NYPost] David Fizdale defends ‘delightful’ James Dolan after latest fan incident
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:35:32 AM)

    INDIANAPOLIS — Charismatic Knicks coach David Fizdale gets along with everybody — except some select Europeans. So it’s no surprise Fizdale has maintained a good connection with Long Island-bred James Dolan, the Knicks’ owner who made his way into headlines again for threatening a heckling fan Saturday after the team’s Garden loss to the Kings….

  • [NBA] Knicks x Squarespace: Fourth Exclusive Full-Arena Poster Giveaway
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:17:36 AM)

    The Knicks will feature five full-arena poster giveaways this season in collaboration with Squarespace user and New York artist Mike Perr

  • [NBA] Knicks x Squarespace: Third Exclusive Full-Arena Poster Giveaway
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:12:07 AM)

    The Knicks will feature five full-arena poster giveaways this season in collaboration with Squarespace user and New York artist Mike Perr

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks owner James Dolan says heckling fan banned due to ‘planned’ confrontation
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 6:28:16 PM)

    Knicks owner James Dolan clarified the MSG incident where a fan yelled “Sell the team!” and he banned the fan from The Garden. He defended his decision due to the ‘planned’ confrontation.

  • [SNY Knicks] James Dolan says he knows free agents want to play for Knicks
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 6:27:45 PM)

    Knicks owner James Dolan explains why he is awfully confident that free agents want to play in New York.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks owner James Dolan explains why Kristaps Porzingis trade went down
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:38:28 PM)

    Speaking on ESPN’s “The Michael Kay Show” on Tuesday to discuss the incident this weekend at MSG regarding a Knicks fan, Knicks owner James Dolan also touched on the Porzingis traded briefly

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks match up against Pacers on the road at 7 p.m.
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 6:32:05 PM)

    New York heads to Indiana on a six-game losing streak after starting a three-game road trip with a 103-92 loss at Minnesota on Sunday. The Knicks are on their fourth skid of at least six games.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks coach David Fizdale comes to James Dolan’s defense after recent events
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:00:56 PM)

    James Dolan has been making headlines this week after his latest run-in with a Knicks fan. On Tuesday, coach David Fizdale called Dolan “delightful” and defended the owner.

  • [SNY Knicks] Charles Barkley doesn’t think Kevin Durant or Kyrie Irving are tough enough to play in New York
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 2:22:00 PM)

    Charles Barkley criticized Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving on Tuesday, saying neither are tough enough to deal with the media attention that comes with playing in New York.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks forward Mario Hezonja: ‘I don’t give a s–t about myself’ regarding upcoming free agency
    (Tuesday, March 12, 2019 11:38:19 AM)

    With free agency awaiting him, Mario Hezonja insists he will play for his teammates down the stretch, saying “I don’t give a s–t about myself.”

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    19 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2019.03.13)

    1. thenoblefacehumper

      I bit the bullet and listened to the full Dolan interview on the Michael Kay show this morning. I don’t normally listen to the show but I have to give props to Kay and whoever his co-host was for not holding much of anything back. Some notes:

      -If you’re reading this website this isn’t exactly going to come as a shock, but it’s truly amazing what a pompous, totally self-unaware jackass he is. He’s convinced that the NYDN actively roots for the Knicks to fail, whines incessantly about how they haven’t written “a single positive story,” (this seems both unlikely but also justifiable if true) and more generally has seemingly never considered that being the worst-run franchise in the NBA for 20 years will naturally lead to critical coverage.

      -He says KP’s fallout with the Knicks happened under Phil Jackson and the new front office basically just wasn’t able to contain the damage. Normally I wouldn’t believe a word out of the guy’s mouth for all of the aforementioned reasons, but this dovetails with what Zach Lowe and Ian Begley both said on Lowe’s podcast a few weeks ago. So if you’re mad about that whole saga (I’m not because I think the trade was simply an objectively good move), Phil is to blame.

      -He makes several references to “what we’ve heard” in terms of free agency, which sounds like a straight up tampering confession but I guess you never really know with Dolan. Based on everything we’ve heard it sure seems like they have a more concrete indication of interest than “we can pay them the max and we’re in New York City, so of course they’ll want to come.

      -He threw Ntilikina a few bones, but based on his audible sigh when asked why he let Phil draft him, one definitely gets the impression that the braintrust is largely out on Frank.

      -He spoke very highly of Mitch, so I’m less worried than I was before about the FO not valuing him properly.

    2. thenoblefacehumper

      A few more:

      -He goes out of his way to emphasize how deferential he’s been to the respective front offices in recent years, and while can’t know for sure it seems like he’s at least mostly telling the truth here. It makes you wonder what could’ve been/could be if his hires were more in the vein of Jerry West/Masai instead of Phil Jackson/Mills, because the only thing you can say for him as an owner is he’s never demonstrated a hesitancy to spend.

      -I could be wrong, but I don’t think he mentioned Mudiay when rattling off a (prepared, amazingly) list of the team’s promising young players. That would bode well for this offseason.

      -He talked about how being “in the middle” and picking around tenth is the worst place to be, which is hilarious because of how many times he’s let precisely that happen to his own team. Maybe he’s picked up on the more basic aspects of the win curve in recent years, which would be good.

      -I don’t particularly care that much about the incident with the fan and wish they spent more time on other subjects, but he seems to be completely unaware of how stupid he sounds whining about someone moving over a few sections to say “sell the team” when players are dealing with racist garbage, etc. on a daily basis.

    3. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      To continue the Smith vs. Mudiay discussion

      I understand that Smith has the better handle and innate passing skills. So if you want to say Smith is the better fit for our team given what Mills/Perry/Fizdale seem intent on finding at PG, I can see that. However, imo, they are equally bad players albeit with slightly different strengths and weakness right now.

      I also don’t see control as a major issue.

      IMO, if you prefer Mudiay it won’t be expensive to sign him in the off season. You could then also trade DSJ and probably get back two 2nd rounders and an expiring (Dallas couldn’t get a 1st). Getting two 2nd rounders would be better than just allowing Mudiay to walk. Of course, some of that would depend on who else we sign and for how much.

      I’m not advocating for any of that. I give DSJ a small edge because he’s younger and more athletic. I’m just observing both players and reading the commentary in articles, on Twitter, and in forums. People seem to be genuinely enthused about DSJ and totally hate Mudiay. I don’t understand that. I’m not even 100% sure either is a better backup than Trey Burke right now. They are just younger and expected to be better because of greater size and “upside”.

    4. thenoblefacehumper

      I understand that Smith has the better handle and innate passing skills. So if you want to say Smith is the better fit for our team given what Mills/Perry/Fizdale seem intent on finding at PG, I can see that. However, imo, they are equally bad players albeit with slightly different strengths and weakness right now.

      Is it that weird to want a PG with a good handle and innate passing skills? That does not seem specific to the New York Knicks braintrust at all.

      It’s really not hard to crack the case on this one. It’s exactly what JK47 said last night–if DSJ makes a Mudiay sized leap, he could be a good player. I have no idea what the chances are of that happening and I would definitely feel better about it if he were on the Spurs.

      I absolutely would not let DSJ’s presence get in the way of signing Kyrie, or drafting Morant, or both. But as long as he’s here we have nothing to lose by playing him, trying to develop him, and seeing what happens. I don’t even know what we’re arguing about, really. I guess I’m a little higher on him than most because of his NCAA pedigree and rookie-sophomore progress, but he’s mostly a flyer whose value we should be trying to maximize. I don’t really care whether that’s via trade or production for us.

    5. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      Dolan has no grasp of basketball, no social skills, no idea what’s going on around him, and is full of shit. I don’t know whether he has some kind of developmental disorder or he’s just a scumbag, but either way, whatever he says is irrelevant.

      He still employs Mills and wanted to bring Isiah back in some capacity even after all the basketball failures and the scandals they were part of at the MSG.

      And it continued into this administration. It cost us plenty to move Hardaway (which was the only real problem) instead having a good player in that space or getting more assets for KP instead of using him to get that space. Loyalty to friends has value, but Dolan is an idiot.

    6. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      Is it that weird to want a PG with a good handle and innate passing skills? That does not seem specific to the New York Knicks braintrust at all.

      I don’t think it’s odd to want to play in a more traditional way. But as I keep saying, it’s one thing to prefer DSJ for those reasons. It’s another to be enthusiastic about him but hate Mudiay.

      In general though, I think there are a lot of ways to play successful basketball. Simmons, Doncic, and Jokic are not really PGs. They are playmakers. Other successful teams play with multiple play makers. It’s supposedly the era of positionless basketball. You can create a team that fills all the necessary skills/roles without being traditional. We don’t necessarily need a classic PG. We need playmakers.

    7. Hubert

      He makes several references to “what we’ve heard” in terms of free agency, which sounds like a straight up tampering confession but I guess you never really know with Dolan.

      Yeah I mentioned this yesterday. He really shouldn’t have said that out loud.

      He followed it up with “because of tampering rules, we’re not allowed to talk to them, but that doesn’t mean they don’t say things to us.” That was a very, very stupid thing to tell the world. I’m sure some teams are keeping that in their back pocket should anything good actually happen to us.

    8. thenoblefacehumper

      I don’t think it’s odd to want to play in a more traditional way. But as I keep saying, it’s one thing to prefer DSJ for those reasons. It’s another to be enthusiastic about him but hate Mudiay.

      Look at Mudiay’s numbers from his age-21 season, which was his third (as opposed to DSJ’s second) in the NBA. They are hideous, NtiliKnoxian-level trash. DSJ is undoubtedly way ahead of Mudiay on the developmental curve.

      That says very, very little. It’s just an objective fact, and pretty much automatically renders DSJ more intriguing than Mudiay. So while DSJ is here with no clearly better option on the roster, he should be given a chance. Am I missing something about how simple this all is?

    9. Hubert

      The most positive takeaway from that interview was that he seems to have no idea what’s going on with the Knicks.

      I’m actually slightly bullish on James Dolan. I know he’s an idiot. But I think the days of him being involved in trade talks and day-to-day business seem to be behind him. Since he hired McKinsey, he’s been hands off.

      Now we just have to worry about how terrible Steve Mills is. Scott Perry seems like the goods. We just have to see if this obsession with Tim Hardaway, Kevin Knox, Emmanuel Mudiay types persists when/if we actually get a true star.

    10. Hubert

      FWIW, based on the water cooler talk in my office today, we’re not the worst run NY area sports team. Giants fans are pissed.

    11. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      Look at Mudiay’s numbers from his age-21 season, which was his third (as opposed to DSJ’s second) in the NBA. They are hideous, NtiliKnoxian-level trash. DSJ is undoubtedly way ahead of Mudiay on the developmental curve.

      I agree. The age difference is a legitimate point in DSJ’s favor.

      But you can counter that with Mudiay having no college, spending a year overseas mostly injured and losing a year of development, and then rotting on Denver’s bench for half a year. Plus as a few of our regular posters often point out, development is not a guarantee. It’s just a statistical probability.

    12. Stratomatic "I'm tired of the Knicks paying lip service to DEFENSE. Get defenders & two-way players. Then play them!

      IMO, the jury is still out on Perry.

      Warren Buffet makes an interesting point about his own investment success. To paraphrase, he says it’s easy to see the successes and mistakes he’s made. It’s less easy to see his mistakes of omission. By that he means all the deals that were available that he did not make that would have turned out great. Those are mistakes too. We just don’t know about them.

      If you look at Perry’s record, he hasn’t done anything especially bad in terms of deals (unless you want to count being so terrible as helping push KP out the door). However, he hasn’t done much good either. Most of the players he’s signed have been the same overrated no defense players Mills likes.

      The one excellent thing he did was draft Robinson and to a lesser extent give Trier a shot. But we don’t know how much of that was prior scouting, current counting, or him. Offsetting that, someone also has to take responsibility for Knox (good or bad long term).

      I think Perry is being graded on a curve. He hasn’t done much that’s terrible. That’s making people overrate what he has done without considering the fact that he hasn’t done much good in 2 years either.

    13. bobneptune

      Giants fans are pissed.

      Which just goes to show how stupid most fans are.
      The Giant GM’s moves this off season:

      1…. somehow swapped the most overpaid non-pass rusher in the league for a very good (by every metric) OG in his prime filling a gaping hole in the OL .

      2… avoided paying a safety/”linebacker” who can’t cover in space with a damaged labrum (think he going to be taking on 300 lb guards next season?) 95M and further crippling the cap. Collins was terrific as a rookie and was exploited through the air ever since. He IS a phenomenal tackler when healthy .Replaced him easily with move #3

      3… Moved a gifted receiver who is an enormous pain in the ass and reasonably frail on a huge contract for a good 23 yr old starting strong safety, a number one pick (#17) (which frees up the #6 pick to draft the OSU QB should they chose to) and a third rounder. How do you think the next rookie QB that takes over would be influenced by OBJ yelling throw me the fucking ball every other play. Evan Engram should probably be playing on the outside anyway.

      4…. And by the way… the GM’s first four picks were all hits last year…..

    14. MBunge

      Technically, I can’t imagine it can be tampering if an agent talks to a team. It’s the response that would make it tampering.

      And I’ll repeat, Kyrie and KD leaving tens of millions in salary on the table to sign with an NBA team that is horrible and been run like ass for 20 years because NEW YORK makes no sense. There had better be some tampering going on or a lot of folks are being played for fools.

      Mike

    15. Z-man

      “I absolutely would not let DSJ’s presence get in the way of signing Kyrie, or drafting Morant, or both. But as long as he’s here we have nothing to lose by playing him, trying to develop him, and seeing what happens.”

      This is simply not true. You lose $4+ million in cap space and a roster spot.

    16. thenoblefacehumper

      This is simply not true. You lose $4+ million in cap space and a roster spot.

      Are you serious? I can’t tell.

      If so, I think it is extremely obvious that DSJ’s upside is worth both of these things, because they amount to very little.

    17. Z-man

      PS the “age” argument is in the same family of twisted logic that has people drafting Ntilikina and Knox over Mitchell and Bridges. DSJ and Mudiay are similar enough in age and experience that it’s virtually meaningless to bring it up. It’s ridiculous to say “if DSJ improves his TS% by 50 points…” without saying “if Mudiay improves his TS% by 50 points…or his AST% by 15 points, etc.”

      Personally, I prefer DSJ to Mudiay, but it’s such a low bar that it’s hard to care much about how management handles it, so long as neither costs more than $5 mill in cap space over the next 2 years.

    18. Z-man

      it is extremely obvious that DSJ’s upside is worth both of these things

      Really? I see a very dumb, lackadaisical player with a horribly broken shot.

    19. The Infamous Cdiggy

      Giants’ fan here.
      I do NOT like that they traded Beckham. However…

      …there is a realm where if the goal is to restock the talent cupboard with youth and picks (sound familiar?), you can defend the trade by saying that trading your best player in his prime allows you to further hit the reset button. I’ll buy that if they do something with Eli this offseason.

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