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Saturday, September 22, 2018

Knicks Morning News (2018.07.14)

  • [SNY Knicks] Knox’s early Knicks success is nothing new to his college teammate
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 7:37:55 PM)

    Knicks’ first-rounder Kevin Knox has been taking the NBA world by storm. Well, at least the NBA Summer League for now.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks’ Mitchell Robinson posts another double-double in Summer League finale
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 7:26:46 PM)

    In the Knicks 82-75 Summer League loss to the Celtics, second-round pick Mitchell Robinson stole the show.

  • [SNY Knicks] Greg Anthony talks Durant to Knicks, Knox, and more
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 4:30:50 PM)

    Former Knicks guard Greg Anthony talked about Kevin Durant’s options, rookie Kevin Knox, and more.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks’ Perry wants to keep ‘options open’ for rest of offseason
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 9:40:05 AM)

    While the Knicks have two eyes on the summer of 2019, Scott Perry says they will keep their options open for the rest of this offseason.

  • [NYPost] Rookie pair gives Knicks feeling they haven’t had in a long time
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 5:05:38 PM)

    LLAS VEGAS — Knicks coach David Fizdale left the Thomas & Mack Center on Friday the 13th, but for a change, the floundering franchise had found mostly good luck. Stamp the summer league a success as Fizdale left Vegas raving about Kevin Knox’s “great toughness’ in “answering the bell” and project center Mitchell Robinson’s “timing.”…

  • [NYPost] Politically vocal Enes Kanter gets ‘3 or 4 death threats’ a week
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 1:41:50 PM)

    Enes Kanter just opted in to the final year of his $18.6 million contract to stay with the Knicks for the 2018-19 season, but no amount of money can expunge the challenges the 26-year-old, who has been called a “terrorist” in his native Turkey, now faces. He is wanted for arrest, has had his passport…

  • [NYPost] Jimmy Butler’s Timberwolves frustration is now official
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 1:11:28 PM)

    Jimmy Butler does not want to stay in Minnesota for the long haul. The Timberwolves star has rejected a four-year extension worth about $110 million, according to Minneapolis TV station KSTP. Butler’s current contract expires after the 2019-20 season. Butler is said to be unhappy with Minnesota’s current situation, with the Chicago Sun-Times reporting earlier…

  • [NYPost] Former college teammate sees one way Kevin Knox can improve
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 9:03:06 AM)

    LAS VEGAS — Clippers point guard Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Knicks forward Kevin Knox were never able to accomplish a goal of bringing another NCAA title to Kentucky. In fact, for the Wildcats, it was something of an underachieving season, losing to Kansas State in the Sweet 16 after going through a four-game losing streak in…

  • [NYTimes] Why Kobe Bryant Fans Don’t Like LeBron James
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 4:57:07 PM)

    He’s a ‘diva.’ He ‘doesn’t have a post game.’ And he’s ‘really cocky.’ The Lakers’ newest star has not been embraced by many Kobe devotees.

  • [NYTimes] Nets Are Trading Jeremy Lin to the Atlanta Hawks
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 2:13:27 PM)

    Lin missed all but one game of the 2017-18 season after injuring his knee in the opener.

  • [NYDN] This state is known as a haven for child marriages, igniting law to protect kids
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:30:00 AM)

    JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — Missouri Gov. Mike Parson on Friday signed legislation that institutes a minimum age of marriage in the state, capping an effort among lawmakers and advocates to crack down on child marriage in the state.

    When the law takes effect on Aug. 28, no one under the age of 16 will…

  • [NYDN] Our duty to all 9/11 responders: The city must do right by EMTs sickened at Ground Zero
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:00:00 AM)

    From the moment the World Trade Center was attacked by terrorists on 9/11 and for months afterward, men and women from around the state descended on Lower Manhattan, where an around-the-clock operation was underway to first rescue and then recover victims of the worst terror strike on U.S. soil.

  • [NYDN] Trump back in Scotland to prepare for Putin talks, maybe play some golf
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:55:00 AM)

    TURNBERRY, Scotland — A roving press conference. Reporters piling into golf carts and running along fairways trying to keep up. A protester scattering golf balls marked with swastikas.

    The last time Donald Trump traveled to Scotland was in 2016, hours after the Brexit vote and shortly after he…

  • [NYDN] Drunken man busted for letting 1-year-old boy drive: police
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:20:00 AM)

    MINNEAPOLIS — A Minnesota man is accused of driving drunk and putting a 1-year-old boy behind the wheel of his SUV in a Minneapolis suburb.

    Thirty-one-year-old Domonic Green of Hopkins is charged with child endangerment and DWI in connection with the Saturday night incident. Both charges are gross…

  • [NYDN] Roe, Roe, Roe the vote: Cuomo grandstands threat to abortion rights in New York
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:05:00 AM)

    Supporters of the long-established right of American women to have an abortion would be foolish not to fear the future should Brett Kavanaugh be confirmed as the next Supreme Court justice. But cries of doomsday make little sense in New York. Here, Roe or no Roe, state law holds abortion legal…

  • [NYDN] Detaining immigrant kids is now a billion-dollar industry
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:05:00 AM)

    SAN ANTONIO — Detaining immigrant children has morphed into a surging industry in the U.S. that now reaps $1 billion annually — a tenfold increase over the past decade, an Associated Press analysis finds.

    Health and Human Services grants for shelters, foster care and other child welfare services…

  • [NYDN] Scoot over, bikes: Ready for the next transit revolution?
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:00:00 AM)

    Just when you got used to Citi Bike, transit innovators are salivating over motorized scooters. There’s an Uber-owned sharing service called Lime. One called Bird. And another, Spin.

    Four big questions: Will they be made legal? If so, will they roll in bike lanes or on sidewalks? Will riders get…

  • [NYDN] Trump administration outlines plan to reunify remaining 2,500 separated children
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:50:00 AM)

    SAN DIEGO — The Trump administration, under order to quickly reunify families that have been separated at the border, is moving ahead — somewhat reluctantly — with a new, streamlined plan to bring together the roughly 2,500 remaining children and their parents in order to meet the court-imposed…

  • [NYDN] Readers sound off on NATO, the MTA and the VA
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:00:00 AM)

    Russia no friend of this nation

    Brewster, N.Y.: On Sept. 11, 2001, the United States suffered the worst attack on American soil from a foreign enemy. American troops were mobilized and sent off to fight those enemies in Afghanistan. The U.S was supported by some friends and of course our NATO allies….

  • [NYDN] Arizona man pretending to be cop tried pulling over unmarked car containing two state troopers: police
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 11:00:00 PM)

    PHOENIX — Arizona authorities say a 44-year-old uniformed security guard is accused of impersonating a police officer by trying to pull over an unmarked car that happened to contain two state troopers patrolling a Phoenix freeway.

    The Department of Public Safety says Matthew Allen Disbro of Mesa…

  • [NYDN] Infant dies after left alone in hot car for hours
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 10:00:00 PM)

    PEMBROKE PINES, Fla. — Florida police say an infant that was left in a parked vehicle has died.

    The Miami Herald reports Pembroke Pines police and fire departments responded to the scene Friday afternoon and found a 17-month-old boy that had been in the vehicle for hours. The National Weather Service…

  • [NYDN] FEMA caught unprepared for Hurricane Maria
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 10:00:00 PM)

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency was unprepared for the series of hurricanes that devastated Puerto Rico, according to a report published Friday.

    FEMA faced a heavy year in 2017. Three hurricanes — Harvey, Irma and Maria — hit Texas and the Caribbean in quick succession. In addition to…

  • [NYDN] Trump eclipses Queen Elizabeth in awkward royal visit
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 9:20:00 PM)

    Shredding protocol in the same way the British burned Washington in 1814, President Trump set tongues wagging Friday at Windsor Castle by walking in front of the Queen.

    While the President and Her Majesty reviewed a red-coated and bearskin-hatted Guard of Honor, Trump stepped ahead of Elizabeth…

  • [NYDN] Inmate serving life term for two murders is running for U.S. Senate seat thanks to loophole
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 9:15:00 PM)

    MINNEAPOLIS — A prison inmate serving a life term for two murders is running for a U.S. Senate seat in Minnesota. And it’s legal.

    Minnesota law bars inmates from running for state-level offices, but they can run for federal office. Leonard Richards is keenly aware of the loophole, and he’s unsuccessfully…

  • [NYDN] Mazzeo: Domingo German’s struggles re-enforces Yankees’ need for another starting pitcher — or two
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 9:10:00 PM)

    CLEVELAND – The Yankees obviously need at least one starter.

    But after a night like Friday, it makes you reconsider they might actually need two.

    Domingo German couldn’t command his fastball, issued too many free passes and got burned early as a result in the Bombers’ 6-5 loss to the Indians at…

  • [NYDN] Amed Rosario bringing energy and daily results Mets lineup
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:55:00 PM)

    The Mets have been happy with the work Amed Rosario has been putting in on a daily basis, and they’re thrilled it is leading to results on the field.

    Rosario had another big night at the plate Friday in the Mets’ 4-2 win over the Nationals, going 2-for-4 with a triple, double, run scored and a…

  • [NYDN] Cops bust homeless man for slaying fellow drifter outside Queens shopping plaza
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:45:00 PM)

    A homeless man is accused of stabbing another homeless man to death as the two argued while drinking outside a Queens shopping plaza, police said.

    Antonio Cabrera was busted Friday for the slaying of Velibor Flores, 39, who was stabbed several times in the chest outside Woodside Plaza at 60th St….

  • [NYDN] Indians jump on Domingo German early as Yankees’ rally comes up short
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:40:00 PM)

    CLEVELAND – Manny Machado obviously would be nice and all, but what the Yankees could really use is some starting pitching.

    In typical fashion, Domingo German struggled out of the gate, and the Bombers lost, 6-5, to the Indians on Friday night at Progressive Field.

    Giancarlo Stanton got the Yankees…

  • [NYDN] Mets testing Jeff McNeil in Triple-A ahead of possible call-up; Yoenis Cespedes feels fine after running bases
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:25:00 PM)

    Earlier this week Mickey Callaway said the hot-hitting Jeff McNeil was viewed as “purely a second baseman,” which was a big reason why he hasn’t yet been given a shot in the big leagues since Asdrubal Cabrera is occupying that position — at least until the trade deadline.

    It was an odd comment…

  • [NYDN] Ackert: Noah Syndergaard proves he’s still Thor to Mets, as well as others before potential trade
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:10:00 PM)

    Noah Syndergaard was on track to be the Mets ace. Two years ago, it didn’t look like anything could stop the hard-throwing, right-hander who has taken to being called “Thor” for his blistering velocity and long, blond locks. But the last two seasons, Syndergaard’s fast track to stardom has been…

  • [NYDN] Prosecutor wants to bring back firing squad for executions
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 7:50:00 PM)

    CINCINNATI — A county prosecutor in Ohio who is frustrated by death row appeals says he wants the state to bring back death by firing squad amid complaints about lethal injection.

    Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters said in a Thursday interview that capital punishment “is not supposed to be a…

  • [NYDN] Noah Syndergaard solid in return as Mets take down Nationals
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 7:05:00 PM)

    Considering he hadn’t started a major-league game in seven weeks, this was a solid return for Noah Syndergaard.

    Having last pitched on May 25 because of a strained finger ligament, Syndergaard allowed one run in five innings and earned the win Friday in the Mets’ 4-2 victory over the Nationals…

  • [NYDN] Billy Bush’s wife files for divorce 10 months after the couple separates: report
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 7:00:00 PM)

    Billy Bush and his wife are headed to Splitville.

    Sydney Davis, the wife of the former “Today” host, who lost his job for chuckling at President Trump’s misogynistic bragging, filed for divorce, according to a report on TMZ.

    She’s asking for primary custody of their two children, but will allow…

  • [NYDN] Rays’ minor league affiliate plans ‘Millennial Night’ filled with selfies and avocados
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 6:20:00 PM)

    OMG, seriously?

    The Tampa Bay Rays’ Double-A affiliate is causing quite the rift on social media after posting a promotion for its “Millennial Night.”

    “Want free things without doing much work? Well you’re in luck,” read a tweet from the Montgomery Biscuits on Wednesday. “Riverwalk Stadium will…

  • [NYDN] Rook-ie Move: Kentucky governor offends high school children and community members expressing surprise at their chess club
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 6:00:00 PM)

    Members of a West Louisville community want to put the Kentucky governor in check after they say he insulted their neighborhood and their high school chess club.

    Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin appeared on a social media post outside Nativity School in St. Boniface to promote their after school programs.

  • [NY Newsday] This state is known as a haven for child marriages, igniting law to protect kids
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:30:00 AM)

    JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — Missouri Gov. Mike Parson on Friday signed legislation that institutes a minimum age of marriage in the state, capping an effort among lawmakers and advocates to crack down on child marriage in the state.

    When the law takes effect on Aug. 28, no one under the age of 16 will…

  • [NY Newsday] Our duty to all 9/11 responders: The city must do right by EMTs sickened at Ground Zero
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:00:00 AM)

    From the moment the World Trade Center was attacked by terrorists on 9/11 and for months afterward, men and women from around the state descended on Lower Manhattan, where an around-the-clock operation was underway to first rescue and then recover victims of the worst terror strike on U.S. soil.

  • [NY Newsday] Trump back in Scotland to prepare for Putin talks, maybe play some golf
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:55:00 AM)

    TURNBERRY, Scotland — A roving press conference. Reporters piling into golf carts and running along fairways trying to keep up. A protester scattering golf balls marked with swastikas.

    The last time Donald Trump traveled to Scotland was in 2016, hours after the Brexit vote and shortly after he…

  • [NY Newsday] Drunken man busted for letting 1-year-old boy drive: police
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:20:00 AM)

    MINNEAPOLIS — A Minnesota man is accused of driving drunk and putting a 1-year-old boy behind the wheel of his SUV in a Minneapolis suburb.

    Thirty-one-year-old Domonic Green of Hopkins is charged with child endangerment and DWI in connection with the Saturday night incident. Both charges are gross…

  • [NY Newsday] Roe, Roe, Roe the vote: Cuomo grandstands threat to abortion rights in New York
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:05:00 AM)

    Supporters of the long-established right of American women to have an abortion would be foolish not to fear the future should Brett Kavanaugh be confirmed as the next Supreme Court justice. But cries of doomsday make little sense in New York. Here, Roe or no Roe, state law holds abortion legal…

  • [NY Newsday] Detaining immigrant kids is now a billion-dollar industry
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:05:00 AM)

    SAN ANTONIO — Detaining immigrant children has morphed into a surging industry in the U.S. that now reaps $1 billion annually — a tenfold increase over the past decade, an Associated Press analysis finds.

    Health and Human Services grants for shelters, foster care and other child welfare services…

  • [NY Newsday] Scoot over, bikes: Ready for the next transit revolution?
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 1:00:00 AM)

    Just when you got used to Citi Bike, transit innovators are salivating over motorized scooters. There’s an Uber-owned sharing service called Lime. One called Bird. And another, Spin.

    Four big questions: Will they be made legal? If so, will they roll in bike lanes or on sidewalks? Will riders get…

  • [NY Newsday] Trump administration outlines plan to reunify remaining 2,500 separated children
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:50:00 AM)

    SAN DIEGO — The Trump administration, under order to quickly reunify families that have been separated at the border, is moving ahead — somewhat reluctantly — with a new, streamlined plan to bring together the roughly 2,500 remaining children and their parents in order to meet the court-imposed…

  • [NY Newsday] Readers sound off on NATO, the MTA and the VA
    (Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:00:00 AM)

    Russia no friend of this nation

    Brewster, N.Y.: On Sept. 11, 2001, the United States suffered the worst attack on American soil from a foreign enemy. American troops were mobilized and sent off to fight those enemies in Afghanistan. The U.S was supported by some friends and of course our NATO allies….

  • [NY Newsday] Arizona man pretending to be cop tried pulling over unmarked car containing two state troopers: police
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 11:00:00 PM)

    PHOENIX — Arizona authorities say a 44-year-old uniformed security guard is accused of impersonating a police officer by trying to pull over an unmarked car that happened to contain two state troopers patrolling a Phoenix freeway.

    The Department of Public Safety says Matthew Allen Disbro of Mesa…

  • [NY Newsday] Infant dies after left alone in hot car for hours
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 10:00:00 PM)

    PEMBROKE PINES, Fla. — Florida police say an infant that was left in a parked vehicle has died.

    The Miami Herald reports Pembroke Pines police and fire departments responded to the scene Friday afternoon and found a 17-month-old boy that had been in the vehicle for hours. The National Weather Service…

  • [NY Newsday] FEMA caught unprepared for Hurricane Maria
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 10:00:00 PM)

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency was unprepared for the series of hurricanes that devastated Puerto Rico, according to a report published Friday.

    FEMA faced a heavy year in 2017. Three hurricanes — Harvey, Irma and Maria — hit Texas and the Caribbean in quick succession. In addition to…

  • [NY Newsday] Trump eclipses Queen Elizabeth in awkward royal visit
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 9:20:00 PM)

    Shredding protocol in the same way the British burned Washington in 1814, President Trump set tongues wagging Friday at Windsor Castle by walking in front of the Queen.

    While the President and Her Majesty reviewed a red-coated and bearskin-hatted Guard of Honor, Trump stepped ahead of Elizabeth…

  • [NY Newsday] Inmate serving life term for two murders is running for U.S. Senate seat thanks to loophole
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 9:15:00 PM)

    MINNEAPOLIS — A prison inmate serving a life term for two murders is running for a U.S. Senate seat in Minnesota. And it’s legal.

    Minnesota law bars inmates from running for state-level offices, but they can run for federal office. Leonard Richards is keenly aware of the loophole, and he’s unsuccessfully…

  • [NY Newsday] Mazzeo: Domingo German’s struggles re-enforces Yankees’ need for another starting pitcher — or two
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 9:10:00 PM)

    CLEVELAND – The Yankees obviously need at least one starter.

    But after a night like Friday, it makes you reconsider they might actually need two.

    Domingo German couldn’t command his fastball, issued too many free passes and got burned early as a result in the Bombers’ 6-5 loss to the Indians at…

  • [NY Newsday] Amed Rosario bringing energy and daily results Mets lineup
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:55:00 PM)

    The Mets have been happy with the work Amed Rosario has been putting in on a daily basis, and they’re thrilled it is leading to results on the field.

    Rosario had another big night at the plate Friday in the Mets’ 4-2 win over the Nationals, going 2-for-4 with a triple, double, run scored and a…

  • [NY Newsday] Cops bust homeless man for slaying fellow drifter outside Queens shopping plaza
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:45:00 PM)

    A homeless man is accused of stabbing another homeless man to death as the two argued while drinking outside a Queens shopping plaza, police said.

    Antonio Cabrera was busted Friday for the slaying of Velibor Flores, 39, who was stabbed several times in the chest outside Woodside Plaza at 60th St….

  • [NY Newsday] Indians jump on Domingo German early as Yankees’ rally comes up short
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:40:00 PM)

    CLEVELAND – Manny Machado obviously would be nice and all, but what the Yankees could really use is some starting pitching.

    In typical fashion, Domingo German struggled out of the gate, and the Bombers lost, 6-5, to the Indians on Friday night at Progressive Field.

    Giancarlo Stanton got the Yankees…

  • [NY Newsday] Mets testing Jeff McNeil in Triple-A ahead of possible call-up; Yoenis Cespedes feels fine after running bases
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:25:00 PM)

    Earlier this week Mickey Callaway said the hot-hitting Jeff McNeil was viewed as “purely a second baseman,” which was a big reason why he hasn’t yet been given a shot in the big leagues since Asdrubal Cabrera is occupying that position — at least until the trade deadline.

    It was an odd comment…

  • [NY Newsday] Ackert: Noah Syndergaard proves he’s still Thor to Mets, as well as others before potential trade
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:10:00 PM)

    Noah Syndergaard was on track to be the Mets ace. Two years ago, it didn’t look like anything could stop the hard-throwing, right-hander who has taken to being called “Thor” for his blistering velocity and long, blond locks. But the last two seasons, Syndergaard’s fast track to stardom has been…

  • [NY Newsday] Prosecutor wants to bring back firing squad for executions
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 7:50:00 PM)

    CINCINNATI — A county prosecutor in Ohio who is frustrated by death row appeals says he wants the state to bring back death by firing squad amid complaints about lethal injection.

    Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters said in a Thursday interview that capital punishment “is not supposed to be a…

  • [NY Newsday] Noah Syndergaard solid in return as Mets take down Nationals
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 7:05:00 PM)

    Considering he hadn’t started a major-league game in seven weeks, this was a solid return for Noah Syndergaard.

    Having last pitched on May 25 because of a strained finger ligament, Syndergaard allowed one run in five innings and earned the win Friday in the Mets’ 4-2 victory over the Nationals…

  • [NY Newsday] Billy Bush’s wife files for divorce 10 months after the couple separates: report
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 7:00:00 PM)

    Billy Bush and his wife are headed to Splitville.

    Sydney Davis, the wife of the former “Today” host, who lost his job for chuckling at President Trump’s misogynistic bragging, filed for divorce, according to a report on TMZ.

    She’s asking for primary custody of their two children, but will allow…

  • [NY Newsday] Rays’ minor league affiliate plans ‘Millennial Night’ filled with selfies and avocados
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 6:20:00 PM)

    OMG, seriously?

    The Tampa Bay Rays’ Double-A affiliate is causing quite the rift on social media after posting a promotion for its “Millennial Night.”

    “Want free things without doing much work? Well you’re in luck,” read a tweet from the Montgomery Biscuits on Wednesday. “Riverwalk Stadium will…

  • [NY Newsday] Rook-ie Move: Kentucky governor offends high school children and community members expressing surprise at their chess club
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 6:00:00 PM)

    Members of a West Louisville community want to put the Kentucky governor in check after they say he insulted their neighborhood and their high school chess club.

    Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin appeared on a social media post outside Nativity School in St. Boniface to promote their after school programs.

  • [ESPN] Ex-Wake great, NBA All-Star Len Chappell dies
    (Friday, July 13, 2018 8:32:14 PM)

    Len Chappell, who led Wake Forest to its only Final Four trip in 1962 and was an NBA All-Star with the Knicks, has died at 77.

  • 98 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2018.07.14)

    1. Zanzibar

      We might have the best (or most promising) young core in the league:
      Mitch/KP/Knox/Frank/top 5 2019 pick > Embiid/Simmons/Markelle/Saric??

      Our 2nd tier youngins off the bench ain’t too shabby either: Burke/Dot/Troy/Luke/Trier

      We’ve got Tier 1 and 2 max guys interested in Knicks: Kyrie/Butler/Kawhi/KD.

      Where’s Ephus – great time to be a Knick fan!

    2. Z-man

      I dunno about how great our young core is but we’re definitely in a better place and on a better trajectory than we have in a long time. Just having a management trio that are not embarrassing themselves and making us the laughing stock of the NBA is pretty nice.

      The problem for us is that we are possibly going to be too good this year to snag a stud in a thin draft class. But then again, who imagined that we’d find a guy like Mitch in the 2nd round? And if we surprise and win 30-35 games, it would have to mean that some of the young guys are playing very well and that Fiz is doing a great job, right?

    3. Zanzibar

      No more Knick Summer League games? Now begins the long boring stretch. Dog days preview:

      (1) Will Knicks sign anyone using BAE? Makes sense to use it this year (won’t be available next summer) but that would mean a player would have to be cut to make room so maybe shouldn’t use it?

      (2) Will Courtney be traded? Memphis is only hope. Now might be the perfect time to use that 4.7m cash (when does this get reset, July 1st?).

      (3) Will Timmy be traded to Kings? Would help tank and help free up cap space for two max contracts next summer. July 15th is first day NYK are able to trade with Kings (Perry hire) and they have the cap to fit THJ. Would Vlade be interested in THJ after whiffing on LaVine? Would Mills’ ego permit such a trade?

      (4) Will Noah be stretched on Sept 1? Conventional wisdom is yes but I think NYK should keep him. Great mentor to Mitch plus, in the event we need two max slots next summer, we’d retain option to send Noah into a team’s cap attaching sweetener. Long season, should find some minutes for him.

      (5) Who will be cut? May need to cut as many as two players. Affected by possible Courtney trade and if Noah is stretched (not sure about timing of when cuts have to be made by…Aug 31?). Lance goes first followed by one of Mudiay or Enes.

      (6) Will Knicks trade for Kawhi? Magic is playing a game of chicken by signing all those 1-year guys saying to Spurs I’ll wait this out until next summer and then sign Kawhi. If I’m Buford, I pick up the phone and ask for Mitch/Frank/Knox/Courtney. Mitch should be off limits for any trade other than AD at this stage. And given Kyrie/Butler/KD are possibilities next summer, we shouldn’t trade any of our promising youngsters.

    4. Bruno Almeida

      @3

      No idea, that’s kinda how I took it.

      There are reasons to be legitimately excited about this core but yeah, I would trade everyone on it for Embiid / Simmons / Saric.

    5. Z-man

      It will be interesting to see whether the Kyrie talk heats up next spring. I know we are not likely to land him, nor am I sure that giving him a max deal is a good idea, but it would be pretty cool to roll him out there with KP, Mitch, Knox and TH2, with some decent bench pieces (Trey, Frank, Ron, Dot, Troy, maybe an improved Mario, and a random defensive big or two.

    6. Zanzibar

      I was taking injury risk into consideration (Embiid, Markelle). 76ers core is better at present but I’d rather have the Knick group looking 2+ years out. Mitch is a stud. KP and he will provide best rim protection in history of NBA. Frank and Mitch could end up best PnR defenders in league.

    7. Z-man

      @5
      1. Yeah, so low-level big is my preference, as Kornet is not an NBA player
      2. Sure hope so.
      3. Probably not, I think we’re stuck with him. The best hope is that he improves enough to make it worthwhile to keep and play him as we improve.
      4. I agree, but it is highly likely that we stretch him
      5. I think Baker is a likely candidate (sad!) and if Noah is stretched, that should do it. Mudiay is viewed as an investment and will probably be played for a while. If he doesn’t improve, maybe he’ll be waived. It seems that Fiz likes Lance, maybe as a role model for Knox (???) so I doubt that he gets cut at first.
      6. Man that would be stupid. It would undo most of the good work that Perry has done. Let someone else gut their team for him.

    8. Zanzibar

      I think Baker is a likely candidate (sad!) and if Noah is stretched, that should do it.

      Ron would have a cap hold of 5.7m in 2019 summer. Knicks would probably have to renounce him to sign max free agent and thereby lose 2-year bird rights to go over cap to re-sign him. Would have to use room exception then to re-sign him if he wants more than min. Limiting our options turns out to be another negative to giving him that large deal and therefore he could be the guy who is cut first.

    9. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox & Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land

      Good to see Dotson finally play a good game.

    10. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      76ers core is better at present but I’d rather have the Knick group looking 2+ years out.

      Okay can we please agree about the endowment effect on this one

    11. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox & Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land

      Here’s the question with the Knicks.

      If you look at KP, Knox, Frank, and Robinson, it looks like we have 4 quality core pieces to try to develop and go forward with. We should get to add another after next season. We also have a few quality players on the bench. The problem is that core is probably 4-5 years away from just starting to peak assuming things go well as far as that development goes.

      Knox – 18
      Frank -19
      Robinson – 20
      KP – 22

      Absent changes, they will probably be terrible next year, a fringe team the year after that with a healthy KP, get knocked out early the year after that etc.. They are eventually going to need to add another genuine star (somehow) and the same kind of quality veterans the 76ers brought in like Ilyasova, Redick, and Belinelli to help accelerate the process and give them experience in the playoffs.

      The question is who, how much, and when.

    12. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox & Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land

      I’m not so sure keeping Noah around for another year would be the worst idea assuming the relationship isn’t beyond repair and they aren’t just giving us lip service about a fresh start now.

      We have Kanter, Robinson, and Kornet as our big men. Kornet does not look like an NBA player right now. I’m also not so sure Robinson is going to be ready to get 20 minutes a night right from the start. The upside of keeping Noah is the same as it was supposed be late in the contract to begin with. If anyone can help teach Robinson defense, it’s Noah. The other upside is that instead of stretching him in September, perhaps we can move him or stretch him later when there will be less money involved and someone may need him if he looks OK this year. No matter how you slice it, I can’t really find the downside of keeping him. It’s not like if we stretch him now we can add a critical piece now.

      I would keep Noah in the backup roll early (replacing KOQ) and slowly ease Robinson into that roll as he develops and shows he’s ready to handle bigger stronger guys in the NBA. At that point they can worry about Noah.

    13. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      I’m not so sure keeping Noah around for another year would be the worst idea assuming the relationship isn’t beyond repair and they aren’t just giving us lip service about a fresh start now.

      this is rock bottom

    14. 2FOR18, understands math

      Timmy for Shumpert’s 1 year contract works.
      Maybe they can include Justin Jackson as a face saving measure for Mills.

    15. thenoblefacehumper

      I’ve said this a number of times and will again–there is absolutely no reason to stretch Noah one second before we have an agreement in place with a worthwhile free agent. That option will literally always be available as long as we don’t waive him via the regular process beforehand. That’s why I think the bizarre status quo actually works best for everyone involved right now. If Noah gets understandably antsy and thinks he’d play on another team, then he and his agent can negotiate a buyout that doesn’t extend past his current contract.

    16. Z-man

      @13 Yeah, although I think it’s reasonable to say that our young core is more promising than any young . core we’ve had since, like, forever. Robinson in and of himself is about as exciting of an unexpected gift prospect as you can get. KP is a solid player as is (assuming knee issues don’t limit him) but it remains to be seen if he can get to the next level (legit all-star). Knox is all hype right now but the potential is definitely there. Frank has a long way to go on offense before I could be confident in calling him anything but a defensive wing, but at least there’s hope since he’s so young. Honestly, there’s cause to be excited about Troy Williams and even Dotson.

      One thing we should see plenty of next year, especially after KP comes back, are highlight reel dunks!

    17. kevin5318

      @2 Normally I would agree but we have a former DPOY on our roster so we might as well put him to some use.

    18. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox & Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land

      this is rock bottom

      Explain the upside of stretching him now.

      So we have a cap hit for longer than the contract even though we can always stretch him later?

      To reduce the possibility of moving him later when there’s less time on the contract from remote to zero?

      To lose the defensive mentorship even though Robinson is utterly clueless about how to play basketball?

      Personally, I don’t think Robinson is going to be ready for a major backup role of 20 minutes a night from day 1. Since we no longer have Willy or KOQ, we could actually use a big man and defensive mentor. If you don’t trust my judgement on Robinson being ready that’s fine, but there are some pretty sharp basketball minds suggesting we send him down to the G league for a few months until he learns how to play basketball and gets stronger. Right now he’s playing 100% on athleticism. He has no idea what he’s doing and was getting pushed around by really strong summer league players.

      I’m suggesting keeping him at the NBA level and playing him, but going from a small role, to 20 minutes, to hopefully taking over the starting job next year as he’s ready. If he’s ready quicker, throw him out there.

    19. Donnie Walsh

      Mitch is a stud. KP and he will provide best rim protection in history of NBA.

      In looking up whether this was a hyperbolic statement or not, I learned that there have been very few Batman and Robin shot blocking duos in the league. The top shot blocking teams of the past 40 years typically have one great shot blocker (Bol, Eaton, Rollins, Camby, Mutumbo) surrounded by teammates that chip in a little here and there. The Rockets with Sampson and Olajuwon and the Spurs with Robinson and Duncan are the only two teams that come to mind as having the “twin towers”, but as teams they rank 25th and 44th in all time blocks respectively.

      So, what I guess if things go right, KP and MR could, theoretically, provide the beat rim protection in history. Kind of weird to think about it, though.

      (most of the top shotblocking teams of the past 40 years weren’t very good, btw)

    20. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      Personally, I don’t think Robinson is going to be ready for a major backup role of 20 minutes a night from day 1.

      Why not? This team is not playing to win. It should put Robinson up against the best players in the NBA to expose him to that level of competition. These are grown men — you don’t need to coddle them. If he’s made from the right cloth, and the Knicks do the right things behind the scenes, he’ll improve.

      If he’s not going to play, send him to Westchester. But why do that when the best outcome is 17 wins and a 50% shot at a top-4 pick?

    21. kevin5318

      If Kornet or Hicks is getting minutes over Mitchell then something has gone very wrong.

    22. ess-dog

      I didn’t realize that Kanter led the entire league in offensive rebounding % last year. That’s no small feat!

      I wonder if they’ll play him and MitchRob together for spurts? If Enes could make a three occasionally that might help.

    23. chrisk06811

      I’m not sure a guy who signed a huge deal, then got hurt, took forever to heal, got suspended for PEDS, then got into it with the coach so bad that a horrible organization thought it best to pay him to stay home is someone I want mentoring.

    24. JK47

      Noah’s last good season was 2013-2014 and his last passably decent season was 2014-2015. He has been bad and/or injured for the last three seasons and he moves like a mummy. When he was at his best he could cover a lot of ground on the floor but he is just painfully slow and immobile in his old age.

      I’d say he’s pretty much done.

    25. Frank

      I see zero upside in waiving Noah now unless it’s just purely for the roster spot, which may be a real concern if we’re unable to move Lee in an asymmetric deal (ie. Lee + someone for 1 player). In that case, I guess it’s fine — better to do something in September that you’re pretty sure you’re going to do in July if it allows you to keep someone else you like (ie. Baker, Troy Williams, or whoever).

      Missed last night’s game too, but man I like looking at those Mitch Robinson box scores.

      We might have the best (or most promising) young core in the league:
      Mitch/KP/Knox/Frank/top 5 2019 pick > Embiid/Simmons/Markelle/Saric??

      I am the co-founder of Team Optimism and I think this is delusional to the point of being involuntarily committed to a psychiatric institution. But hey it’s fine.

      Where’s Ephus – great time to be a Knick fan!

      as far as I can tell on twitter, Ephus is spending his time trying to resuscitate an even sicker patient than our sad sack Knicks — our democracy. It definitely was a simpler time in 2012-13 with Melo/Pablo/Tyson/Kidd, etc.

    26. nicos

      I can’t see any positive (beyond monetary ones) to keeping Noah around. Even if by some miracle he’s healthy and plays well he’d take time away from Robinson and hurt the tank. They hired Fiz as a developmental coach- let Fiz develop Robinson.
      If they do want to sign somebody else I wouldn’t be entirely shocked if Troy Williams got waived. He’s been productive but like Anthony Randolph he makes enough bone-headed plays that he’s got to drive coaches crazy.

    27. Totes McGoats as Totes McGoats

      Wow..Jabari Parker got 20mm/yr? And to think a few of us wanted to kick the tires on him. I guess the good thing is it’s a 2 yr deal..but it’s still a cap wrecker because he’s not likely to become dominant and earn what his next deal is likely to be. All that money Chicago is spending..are we sure Isaiah isn’t handing out contracts there? Can’t be Phil because Lavine and Parker don’t necessarily fit the triangle..

    28. Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox & Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land

      Why not? This team is not playing to win. It should put Robinson up against the best players in the NBA to expose him to that level of competition. These are grown men — you don’t need to coddle them. If he’s made from the right cloth, and the Knicks do the right things behind the scenes, he’ll improve. If he’s not going to play, send him to Westchester. But why do that when the best outcome is 17 wins and a 50% shot at a top-4 pick?

      IMO, there are multiple reasons.

      1. You don’t want skinny teenager or 20 year old kid getting mauled and banged around every night by much stronger men down low. It raises the risk of getting hurt. Why do you think KP wants to play PF instead C and why so many SFs don’t want to play stretch PF?

      2. When one player on the team is utterly clueless on both ends, it hurts the development of
      a cohesive offense and defense where everyone knows what to do. If one of them is always in the wrong spot doing the wrong thing it will screw everyone else up.

      3. IMO, players should earn minutes on merit.

      He can benefit from a few months in the gym working out, getting stronger, improving his skills, and catching up on the things he missed learning because he wasn’t playing. Noah would be perfect because he’s a former DPOY.

      We aren’t going to win more games keeping Noah around to play backup for a couple of months. We are going to let the clock run out on his contract and let him teach Robinson how to play basketball. Even if we win 1-2 extra games, that will be offset by faster development and the potential for not having Noah on the cap as long. Position in the draft matters, but we just got a potential monster at 36 and a lot of people think we got a huge bargain at 9. Drafting seems to be our one major skill as an organization. We’ll be fine.

    29. kevin5318

      @36 Fiz said he doesn’t want Tim/lee playing SF so maybe just have Knox/Mitchell next to Kanter.

    30. thenoblefacehumper

      So what’s the opening night starting lineup as of now? Assuming we can’t trade Lee, my best guess is:

      Frank-THJ-Lee-Knox-Kanter

      Blech. At least it’s tanktastic but not much in the way of watchability.

      If Lee is traded, or we just stop caring about getting him minutes, we might see:

      Frank-THJ-Hezonja-Knox-Kanter

      That’s, uh, just as tanktastic but maybe a tad more watchable?

      I hope before too long we try something like:

      Burke-Frank-Hezonja-Knox-Robinson

      If/when KP returns:

      Burke-Frank-Knox-KP-Robinson is intriguing in some ways.

      It’ll be interesting to see what Fizdale settles on, both as a starting lineup and just the rotation in general. It’s hard to accommodate all of our key players’ optimal positions at once.

    31. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      1. You don’t want skinny teenager or 20 year old kid getting mauled and banged around every night by much stronger men down low. It raises the risk of getting hurt. Why do you think KP wants to play PF instead C and why so many SFs don’t want to play stretch PF?

      Just imagine how much better Garnett’s or Chandler’s career would have been if they’d ridden the bench their rookie years!

      2. When one player on the team is utterly clueless on both ends, it hurts the development of
      a cohesive offense and defense where everyone knows what to do. If one of them is always in the wrong spot doing the wrong thing it will screw everyone else up.

      Does he looks clueless so far? You have to play these guys to get them to adjust to the NBA game. Watching Noah from the bench will not improve his game nearly as much as, y’know, playing.

      3. IMO, players should earn minutes on merit.

      Well in that case, Lee should start over Ntilikina — he’s an 11-year veteran, for heaven’s sake!!!!!!!

      He can benefit from a few months in the gym working out, getting stronger, improving his skills, and catching up on the things he missed learning because he wasn’t playing. Noah would be perfect because he’s a former DPOY.

      Working out — can be done by playing regular minutes.
      Getting stronger — can be done while playing regular minutes.
      Improving his skills — can be done by playing regular minutes.
      Catching up on the things he missed learning (in the NCAA, which plays a completely different style ball than the NBA) because he wasn’t playing — can be done by playing regular minutes.

      Noah would be perfect for what? Being an old, washed-up, overpaid player who’ll play like shit on offense, which Robinson will watch and get better from? Huh? This makes no sense at all.

    32. Z-man

      I don’t think Mitchell is a skinny teenager. He’s not getting pushed around because he’s weak, he’s getting pushed around because has a high center of gravity and hasn’t learned how to get down in a proper defensive stance, or to play angles to deny post passes, or to box out. From what I’ve seen, some of his plays suggest that he is actually exceptionally strong and tough. Hell, he dominated SL after not playing 5-on-5 for an entire year!!!!!

      He truly appears to be an athletic freak who can handle anything physical that the NBA has to offer. And he now has SL reps and 3 months to work on technical stuff as well as his body. I’m confident that he can easily play as many minutes as guys like Frank, Fox, Lonzo, Isaac, Markkanen, Josh Jackson, and Frank did last year. Let him take his lumps (or give them out, hopefully!)

    33. kevin5318

      Lee isn’t starting guys. I could see Hez, Troy,Lance(!) or Mitchell starting with Knox and Kanter.

    34. mase

      I may be completely wrong with the stats but I think hezonja is a much better passer than Timmy. Therefore a starting line up of
      Frank, hezonja, Knox, kanter, Mitch using timmy as a 6 th man is the best line up we can conjure. Unless of course Timmy can run point with frank then Mitch is the odd man out.

      I just feel like hezonja with Knox is a better fit than Timmy with Knox.

    35. nicos

      So what’s the opening night starting lineup as of now? Assuming we can’t trade Lee, my best guess is:

      Frank-THJ-Lee-Knox-Kanter

      I’ll be stunned if Frank is the starting point guard to start the season- I’d say Mudiay has a better shot at the starting point guard spot given that I’m sure the front office would like to see him succeed. My guess would be Burke, THJ, Knox, Hezonja, Kanter. That would have a chance to be one of the worst defensive line-ups the Knicks have rolled out in years so maybe Frank starts over one of Knox or Hezonja but I doubt it.

    36. Jack Bauer

      Play MitchRob and all the youngsters major minutes.
      Win 20 games or less and get a top 3 pick.

      It’s a complete no brainer.

      Noah is as done as last Thanksgiving’s turkey, stick a fork in him.
      If he plays any minutes in more than 5 games next year color me very shocked. It might end up as the worst signing in Knicks history (relative to playing time and production) which is really saying something.

    37. JK47

      Robinson is 20, a year and four months older than Kevin Knox. He would have been old for a college freshman.

    38. Aten

      If 1 is a joke it’s both funny and well-executed but we all know that it isn’t.

      Porzingis has been in the league three years and hasn’t gotten within binocular distance of the Mendoza line. Ntilikina was awful last year even by the supremely forgiving standards by which European toddlers are evaluated. Knox is a chucker because of course he is. Because spacing and interaction effects and shot creation and other words. Robinson is some second round pick. This is the best young nucleus in the league. Or ‘most promising’ if you’re realistic about your chances of getting the previous sentence out with a straight face.

      You get the team you deserve. That’s fine. I get the team you deserve too. And that’s bullshit.

    39. nicos

      Robinson is some second round pick.

      Watch it- you’re talking about the all-time leader in summer league blocked shots and offensive rebounds. And the all-time PER, rebounds per 40, and second in blocks player in Nike EYDL history! During the telecast of the Boston game Fran Fraschilla said his FLOOR was Whiteside without all the issues. Take all of that with the big grain of salt it deserves but it is really, really hard to believe he fell as far as he did in the draft.

    40. Brian Cronin

      I continue to be amazed at why no one else took a shot at Robinson. I totally get not wanting to risk a first round pick on him, but there were so many teams picking before the Knicks in the second round. How did they all pass on Robinson?! I like John Collins, but the Hawks couldn’t possibly think that having Collins means not needing Robinson, can they?

      The Mavericks drafted Doncic, already have DSJ and they passed over Robinson for Brunson? How does any of this make any sense?!

    41. JK47

      There were obviously lots of teams that didn’t do their due diligence on Robinson, and he also didn’t do workouts so he was very much a cipher coming into the draft. Our FO obviously knew how good he was, as they considered trading up a few spots to nab him.

      It’s very un-Dolan’s Razor for something of good fortune like this to happen to NYK.

    42. Aten

      I love you guys but you suffer fools real lightly. Even if you don’t think you do or you think it doesn’t matter.

    43. Zanzibar

      Sheesh, y’all have been trapped in a cave for 2 decades. Every now and then over those 20 years, a sliver of light would shine through and you’d be exuberant and hopeful only to be plunged back into the darkness. But now a seismic shift occurs, the cave entrance is open, a crush of sunshine hits your eyes, you’re blinded and scramble back into the cave and don’t want to leave. It’s safe to come out now. It’s a beautiful sight.

      Here was my original comment:

      We might have the best (or most promising) young core in the league:
      Mitch/KP/Knox/Frank/top 5 2019 pick > Embiid/Simmons/Markelle/Saric??

      I said “might have” and put two question marks at end of comparison. I later clarified I was taking injury risk (Embiid and Markelle) into consideration. If one of those 2 guys doesn’t pan, then yes I’d rather have our young core.

      But let’s compare our core to that of other teams:

      Boston: Tatum/Brown/Rozier
      Chicago: Dunn/LaVine/Markannen/WCJ/Jabari?
      Lakers: Ball/Ingram/Hart/Kuzma
      Phoenix: Ayton/Booker/Mikal/Jackson
      Denver: Jokic/Harris/Murray/MPJ
      Milwaukee: Giannis/Brogdon/DiVincenzo
      Charlotte Lamb/Kaminski/WHG/Monk/Miles Bridges
      Dallas: Doncic/Smith/Brunson
      Memphis: JJJ/Carter
      Minnesota: KAT/Wiggins/Jones/Bates-Diop/Okogie
      Sacramento: Bags/WCS/Hield/Fox/Jackson/Giles/Mason
      Orlando: Fournier/Gordon/Bamba/Isaac

      I wouldn’t choose any of those over the Knicks. Discussion to follow.

    44. JK47

      Having one true young superstar is probably more valuable than having a handful of good young players. Like, if you have Giannis, your core is better than the Knicks’ core. In my opinion at least.

    45. Zanzibar

      Fans don’t weight defense as much as they should and when you look at that list it’s obvious to me that our group is waaay better than any of those other cores. Frank/KP/Mitch are game changers on defense and I believe Knox will be at least average. Resident KB historian Donnie Walsh has confirmed my statement we’ll have best rim protection in history of NBA.

      On offense, we saw the effect Tyson had on our offense by just being able to dive to rim and collapse defenses; we had #3 offense that year. Mitch should have a similar effect (and provide more offensive rebounding to boot) KP + Knox > Melo + JR. And I’m presuming Mitch won’t be very good at anything else on offense: shooting/passing/post-ups. He just needs to hit his free throws at a decent clip or that will be a problem.

      Bottom Line: Our young core has potential for elite defense and the pieces fit well on offense.

    46. Owen

      I agree with JK47. I’d trade our entire group of young pieces for Giannis or AD without thinking about it.

      Still, I am suddenly super excited about watching the Knicks because of MitchRob. Which i didn’t see coming.

    47. Early Bird

      Yeah, but might doesn’t even cover it. We straight up don’t have a better young core than other teams. KP is oft injured, can’t score efficiently or rebound.

      Ntillikina’s offense makes him unplayable.

      Other 2 have 0 minutes of effective NBA basketball.

      Where are you looking?
      I’d take Giannis for the lot of them or Simmons in a trade for 3 of them.

    48. ethsurken

      The hardest thing to find is a star level player, and the Knicks don’t have one. They have KP—who’s good, but not quite there yet, and just had major surgery—and some lottery tickets. I’d rather have Tatum, Jokic, Giannis, Doncic, KAT, Embiid, and Simmons.

      The weird thing with MitchRob (which was mentioned in one of the broadcasts) is that he wasn’t some complete unknown. He was a top 10 recruit, McDonald’s All-American, and played well in major youth tournaments/competitions. Teams are generally way too risk averse, but his behavior/lack of communication must’ve really scared some teams. Maybe the lack of positional need for centers also had an effect.

    49. Z-man

      It’s a bit crazy to compare our youngsters to those on other teams. We have 2 guys that haven’t played a second of NBA ball yet.

    50. Early Bird

      The weird thing with MitchRob (which was mentioned in one of the broadcasts) is that he wasn’t some complete unknown. He was a top 10 recruit, McDonald’s All-American, and played well in major youth tournaments/competitions.

      You would think so, but lots of those guys wash out in college. Josh Selby was #5. Jeremy Tyler was scouted high.

    51. 2FOR18, understands math

      I’d feel so much better if we took SGA over Knox. He was the guy I wanted if you were concerned about Mikals age, and I said as much on here before SL. The Spider-Man backcourt of him and Frank with KP had me giddy, and now with Mr Robinson looking like this……damn

    52. Brian Cronin

      Teams are generally way too risk averse, but his behavior/lack of communication must’ve really scared some teams. Maybe the lack of positional need for centers also had an effect.

      The risk averse thing in the second round is what gets me. This is where you take fliers on guys! Five teams choosing not to take a flyer on Robinson is still quite surprising to me, even back when I thought that there was a non-zero chance that he would flame out. He’s precisely the type of player you take a risk on with a second round pick. The reward dramatically outweighs the risk.

    53. ethsurken

      @63 Selby was a smallish PG who couldn’t shoot or pass. Tyler… not sure what his skills were, but he also skipped his senior year of high school. I don’t know how much they played in the major showcase tournaments/competitions. Robinson’s skills were easily translatable: a mobile, long 7 footer with insane leaping ability… you can’t take that away. And there’s tape of him getting the best of the other top big men in the class, including the #1 pick.

    54. 2FOR18, understands math

      Jeremy Tyler was super hyped. And that was when traditional centers were still highly valued

    55. ess-dog

      I think teams passing on Robinson had more to do with the league “trending” away from bigs and GMs suddenly wanting “shooters” at all 5 positions no matter what. That’s why Williams dropped so far and why the Lakers took Wagner over Robinson in the 1st round. So we should perhaps thank the Warriors for Robinson dropping to us.

    56. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      I remember posting Selby’s PAWS40 numbers and being told I was an idiot for using them to evaluate him as a prospect. Of course, we all know how that turned out.

      High-school accolades mean very little.

    57. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      Boston: Tatum/Brown/Rozier
      Chicago: Dunn/LaVine/Markannen/WCJ/Jabari?
      Lakers: Ball/Ingram/Hart/Kuzma
      Phoenix: Ayton/Booker/Mikal/Jackson
      Denver: Jokic/Harris/Murray/MPJ
      Milwaukee: Giannis/Brogdon/DiVincenzo
      Charlotte Lamb/Kaminski/WHG/Monk/Miles Bridges
      Dallas: Doncic/Smith/Brunson
      Memphis: JJJ/Carter
      Minnesota: KAT/Wiggins/Jones/Bates-Diop/Okogie
      Sacramento: Bags/WCS/Hield/Fox/Jackson/Giles/Mason
      Orlando: Fournier/Gordon/Bamba/Isaac

      I wouldn’t choose any of those over the Knicks. Discussion to follow.

      Would you trade Porzingis for Jokic, Towns or Giannis straight up? If the answer is no, you need to sober up.

    58. Brian Cronin

      Don’t worry, KP will have his usual strong start to 2019-20 and it will be Year Four of, “I’d take KP over Towns and Jokic” before, well, you know.

    59. ptmilo

      the irony of a spasmodic berri sycophant who drops in exclusively to spew half-wit venom refusing to suffer fools

    60. Zanzibar

      Would you trade Porzingis for Jokic, Towns or Giannis straight up? If the answer is no, you need to sober up.

      You’re asking the wrong question.

      KP + Robinson > Giannis
      KP + Robinson > Towns + Wiggins
      KP + Robinson > Jokic + Harris

    61. Donnie Walsh

      And the all-time PER, rebounds per 40, and second in blocks player in Nike EYDL history!… his FLOOR was Whiteside without all the issues…

      “Mr Robinson, you’re trying to seduce me.”

    62. Donnie Walsh

      I remember posting Selby’s PAWS40 numbers and being told I was an idiot for using them to evaluate him as a prospect. Of course, we all know how that turned out.

      High-school accolades mean very little.

      But, Selby was the MVP of summer league! Does that mean nothing??

    63. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      the irony of a spasmodic berri sycophant who drops in exclusively to spew half-wit venom refusing to suffer fools

      huh

    64. geo

      the irony of a spasmodic berri sycophant who drops in exclusively to spew half-wit venom refusing to suffer fools

      glad I dropped in today…no one does it better than ptmilo :)

      only got to watch a bit of the summer league stuff…

      man, I wish they’d force frank to dribble and drive more…he really needs some help with his handle…still lots of sloppy/lazy passes…

      knox looks a lot better than expected…still has a lot of developing to do, but, seems like a legit prospect…

      wow, mitchrob is gonna make me re-think my thoughts on 2nd round picks being meaningless…that kid has got some serious young legs right there…

      I’m hoping we can have him playing a good 20 minutes a night right out the shoot…can’t wait to see him and kp play together…

    65. geo

      c’mon jowles, some of what ptmilo writes ain’t necessarily meant to be understood (although this one was a little obvious) – it’s meant to be felt…

    66. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      I understood what he meant completely, but comparing Berri to jon abbey/flossy/the rest of 2011’s deluded is pretty weak. (Or saying that because I don’t suffer the fool known as jon abbey, it’s ironic to suffer a tenured academic economist fool at Southern Utah.) Last I checked, ptmilo was the one responsible for ending the WP48 debate by saying “it doesn’t correlate with RAPM so it’s nonsense,” which, haha, I mean, okay?

    67. Brian Cronin

      I understood what he meant completely, but comparing Berri to jon abbey/flossy/the rest of 2011’s deluded is pretty weak. (Or saying that because I don’t suffer the fool known as jon abbey, it’s ironic to suffer a tenured academic economist fool at Southern Utah.) Last I checked, ptmilo was the one responsible for ending the WP48 debate by saying “it doesn’t correlate with RAPM so it’s nonsense,” which, haha, I mean, okay?

      He wasn’t referring to you.

      EDITED TO ADD: I see he just noted that, as well.

    68. Ntilakilla

      OMG.

      The mystery guest for the next “It’s a Hard #Knicks Life” podcast told me he “once clocked Mitchell Robinson run the entire length of the court in 2.8 seconds.”

    69. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      Mea culpa. I did not understand what you meant at all, because reading comprehension is hard.

    70. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      Also I am perfectly comfortable using BPM as my flawed metric of choice nowadayz

    71. The Infamous Cdiggy

      I read that article and at the end I’m like, “Selby DEFINITELY should’ve stayed another year at Kansas”. I don’t believe a freshman should declare unless they know they’re gonna be taken in the 1st round. He didn’t.

      Too bad. Seems like he was chomping at the bit to get his moms and fam out the B’more hood. I went to college in B’more – I can understand kind of.

    72. Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

      What do you suppose Terry Francona is going to look like once he needs to have his lower jaw removed? I hope we never find out, for his sake.

    73. Zanzibar

      Jowles:Berri::er:Melo

      Also I am perfectly comfortable using BPM as my flawed metric of choice nowadayz

      The youthful Jowles was bamboozled, hoodwinked, led astray. It took him a long time to make the journey to Oz and throw open the curtain but he’s arrived. Ah the folly of youth.

    74. Zanzibar

      How ironic is it that the #36 pick in that Melo trade could make enduring all of the jab stepping, ball-stopping, not trying on defense, meee lo branding, etc worthwhile?

    75. alsep73

      Robinson fired his agent, blaming him for the decision to skip the combine, which surely cost him the first round. I feel bad for the kid, even though it worked out incredibly well for us.

    76. Brian Cronin

      Yeah, that’s so weird. Both the whole “skipping the combine” thing and the whole “firing him after he signed his contract” thing.

      But the most important thing, of course, is that it worked out for the Knicks!

    77. Ingmarrrr

      the irony of a spasmodic berri sycophant who drops in exclusively to spew half-wit venom refusing to suffer fools

      Great poetry.

    78. nicos

      Robinson fired his agent, blaming him for the decision to skip the combine, which surely cost him the first round. I feel bad for the kid, even though it worked out incredibly well for us.

      I seem to recall Perry saying that Robinson’s agent was a friend of his- hopefully Robinson doesn’t have someone in his ear saying that there was some funny business going on between the agent and the Knicks front office in getting a very team-friendly contract signed.

    79. JK47

      The article in the Post about Robinson’s agent indicates that the problem Robinson had wasn’t with the four-year, two-option contract, but rather with the fact that Robinson was advised to skip the combine. So that’s good I guess. His new agent John Spencer is kind of a nobody. Lance Thomas is his biggest client.

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