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Saturday, December 16, 2017

Knicks Morning News (2017.11.12)

  • [SNY Knicks] GEICO SportsNite: Bernard King on upbringing, new book
    (Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:30:24 AM)

  • [SNY Knicks] LeBron James says Dennis Smith Jr. ‘should be a Knick’
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:47:20 PM)

    LeBron James of the Cavaliers said Maverics Rookie Dennis Smith Jr. “should be a Knick,” reports Tim MacMahon of ESPN.

  • [SNY Knicks] Porzingis shines in return as Knicks beat Kings 118-91
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:14:14 PM)

    NEW YORK (AP) Kristaps Porzingis returned after a one-game absence to score 34 points, Courtney Lee added 20, and the New York Knicks beat the Sacramento Kings 118-91 on Saturday night.

  • [SNY Knicks] Porzingis focusing on maintaining weight throughout the season
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 5:57:50 PM)

    Kristaps Porzingis is focusing on maintaining his physical profile this season to avoid losing weight down the stretch.

  • [SNY Knicks] Tonight’s game: Knicks vs. Kings, 8 p.m.
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 5:33:08 PM)

    NEW YORK — Coming off their first two-game winning streak of the season, the Sacramento Kings were staring at yet another bit of fortune heading into their Saturday night showdown against the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden.

  • [SNY Knicks] Chauncey Billups learning front office tactics from friend Steve Perry
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:53:35 AM)

    Former NBA star and current TV analyst, Chauncey Billups, has been shadowing Knicks GM Scott Perry as he hopes to be in his position one day.

  • [NYDN] LeBron James says Knicks should’ve drafted Dennis Smith Jr.
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:01:47 PM)

    James’ latest problem with Phil Jackson is who he drafted.

  • [NYDN] Knicks, Kristaps Porzingis stay hot at home with rout of Kings
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:01:01 PM)

    Porzingis added to his legend by casually dropping 34 points.

  • [NYDN] Porzingis says maintaining weight will be key to healthy season
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 12:30:39 PM)

    Some players use the season get into shape and lose pounds. Kristaps Porzingis wants to make sure that doesn’t happen.

  • [NYPost] Willie Cauley-Stein: Knicks were right to pick Porzingis over me
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:45:17 PM)

    The Knicks will never have to think of what could have been. Before the Knicks altered the direction of their franchise by taking Kristaps Porzingis with the fourth-overall pick in the 2015 draft, the team was also considering drafting center Willie Cauley-Stein, who was widely considered the best defensive player available, and worked out for…

  • [NYPost] Knicks giving fans reasons to believe, but can they keep it up?
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:46:39 PM)

    We get it, New York. You’re skeptical. As Knicks fans who have suffered through Eddy Curry and Andrea Bargnani and Alexey Shved and Jackie (Not Jimmy) Butler and a bunch of guys named Williams, you want to buy into the 7-5 start but you’re just not ready. Well, the Knicks say you can believe. They’re…

  • [NYPost] LeBron: Knicks should’ve picked Dennis Smith Jr., not Ntilikina
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:15:09 PM)

    LeBron James has given the Knicks — and a certain Frenchman — some bulletin board material ahead of their Monday showdown vs. the Knicks at the Garden. After facing the Mavericks Saturday, the Cavaliers star said he was giving a headline-worthy quote when he took a swipe at Frank Ntilikina and by association former Knicks…

  • [NYPost] Courtney Lee making a case to be the Knicks’ second option
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 8:42:08 PM)

    Even if it seems like it, Kristaps Porzingis can’t do it alone. The young superstar still has needed help morphing a season of rebuilding into a year that could see the Knicks in postseason contention. From the shadows, Courtney Lee has become one of Porzingis’ best sidekicks. A franchise so excited for what the future…

  • [NYPost] Kristaps Porzingis and Knicks put on virtuoso performance
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 5:41:10 PM)

    Kristaps Porzingis was assuredly headed for another career-high when Jeff Hornacek showed mercy on Sacramento and gave the 7-foot-3 Latvian an early hook. In an effortless performance, Porzingis probably could have made it to 50, but Hornacek pulled him with 2:53 left in the third quarter after he notched 34 points in 27 minutes in…

  • [NYPost] One Knick worried he will be odd man out when Noah returns
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 4:10:36 PM)

    Mindaugas Kuzminskas says he’ll have “a sleepless’’ night as he awaits the Knicks’ decision on who goes or stays. If the Knicks can’t make a trade, say getting a late first-rounder for backup center Kyle O’Quinn, the two likely candidates to be waived Sunday to make room for Joakim Noah’s return from drug suspension is…

  • [NYPost] Ntilikina’s next challenge: The point guard drafted just before him
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:17:43 AM)

    Frank Ntilikina has looked better than a 19-year-old rookie is supposed to look. Less than one month into his NBA career, the young Frenchman already appears comfortable with his new team in a new league in a new country. After battling minor injuries at the beginning of the season, Ntilikina, the eighth overall pick, has…

  • [NYPost] Porzingis is making dark days feel like a distant memory
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:27:08 AM)

    It’s going so grandly for Kristaps Porzingis, emerging as a longshot MVP candidate, a no-brainer as a first-time All-Star and an early lock for Most Improved Player award. All those bad thoughts Porzingis carried from last season are evaporating. If you recall, Janis Porzingis, Kristaps’ agent/brother, was most concerned that Porzingis’ game didn’t develop last…

  • [NYTimes] Knicks 118, Kings 91: Knicks Roll Over the Kings as Porzingis Returns and Scores 34
    (Sunday, November 12, 2017 6:48:11 AM)

    After missing a game because of injuries, Kristaps Porzingis led the Knicks to their fourth consecutive win at Madison Square Garden.

  • [NYTimes] At the Pistons’ New Home, Empty Seats and Hockey Statues
    (Sunday, November 12, 2017 4:43:47 AM)

    The opening of Detroit’s Little Caesars Arena has been followed by a succession of not-so-enormous basketball crowds.

  • [ESPN] Kristaps Porzingis, Jeff Hornacek keys to Knicks’ fast start
    (Sunday, November 12, 2017 2:19:04 AM)

    Kristaps Porzingis, Jeff Hornacek keys to Knicks’ fast start

  • [ESPN] LeBron: Mavs’ Smith Jr. ‘should be a Knick’
    (Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:34:16 AM)

    LeBron: Mavs’ Smith Jr. ‘should be a Knick’

  • [NY Newsday] Jeff Hornacek enjoys ‘perfect’ Courtney Lee, energetic Enes Kantner
    (Sunday, November 12, 2017 2:58:05 AM)

    The final 15 minutes or so of the Knicks’ victory over the Kings on Saturday night was the “garbage time” at the end of a blowout. And while no one had more to do with making it so than Kristaps Porzingis, this was no solo performance.

  • [NY Newsday] Dirk Nowitzki says Kristaps Porzingis already had all tools
    (Sunday, November 12, 2017 2:49:14 AM)

    Dirk Nowitzki takes no credit for Kristaps Porzingis’ record-setting start this season.

  • [NY Newsday] Kristaps Porzingis again leads Knicks to victory
    (Sunday, November 12, 2017 2:06:28 AM)

    There’s always been an element of the fantastic when it comes to Kristaps Porzingis. From a child at the Garden crying when he was drafted to Warriors star Kevin Durant dubbing him a basketball unicorn, the Legend of the Latvian has grown by incremental leaps since he first put on a Knicks jersey.

  • [NY Newsday] Mindaugas Kuzminskas aware he’s on trade block
    (Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:52:35 AM)

    Mindaugas Kuzminskas is fully aware that he might not be a New York Knick by Sunday afternoon, that Joakim Noah’s return from a PED suspension might mean he will get traded or waived after playing only two minutes in the first 11 games. And frankly, he doesn’t seem all that happy about it.

  • [NY Newsday] Knicks playing together and enjoying their success
    (Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:28:41 PM)

    Less has been more for the Knicks this season.

  • 79 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2017.11.12)

    1. alsep73

      On the one hand, LeBron’s comments about Frank vs. DSJ are annoying, particularly in light of how bad a GM LeBron tends to be.

      On the other, I kind of like him embracing the heel role, which he did for a while in Miami and then stopped again by the time he went back to Cleveland. He could come into the Garden tomorrow night and drop a double nickel on us, but I enjoy rooting against him more when he’s openly being a jerk.

    2. ess-dog

      “The Knicks passed on a really good one… He should be a Knick.” – LeBron on Mavs’ rookie Dennis Smith Jr.

      Enes Kanter: Nope!! We love what we got… Thanks!!!

      Ha I love Enes now…

    3. alsep73

      The Frank vs DSJ debate (or Frank vs Monk, or Frank vs Mitchell) isn’t going to be resolved for years, and I doubt we see Frank put up a box score anytime soon like Smith did last night against Cleveland. But even through all these growing pains, I like his fit with the team, on both offense and (especially) defense, much more than Smith.

    4. danvt

      LBJ just trying to stir things up as a preamble to Monday’s tilt. Oldest trick in the book. Frank and Dennis are totally different players. Frank doesn’t look to create for himself, so far. Both are playing rotation minutes. Mavs are 2-11, Knicks are 7-5.

      Both Lee and Dotson looked fantastic. Hornacek is doing a really good job winning games and developing players. Long home stand, though, with some beatable opponents. CLE game looms as a big litmus test.

    5. alsep73

      I’m curious to see if hornacek put frank on lebron for part of the game the way he did with harden

      That’d be fun. Would Frank’s octopus arms and defensive instincts be enough to control someone as big and strong as LeBron? Or would this be a LeBron revenge game for the embarrassment we gave him on his home court, and he’ll go out of his way to attack the French Prince?

    6. johnno

      Anyone else think it’s funny that Jowles won’t yet admit that the Knicks were right to pick KP over Cauley-Stein when WCS himself said last night that the Knicks made the right pick?

    7. Ntilakilla

      Anyone else think it’s funny that Jowles won’t yet admit that the Knicks were right to pick KP over Cauley-Stein when WCS himself said last night that the Knicks made the right pick?

      He wanted WCS instead?

      Bwahahahahahahahaha!

    8. DRed

      Would Frank’s octopus arms and defensive instincts be enough to control someone as big and strong as LeBron?

      He guarded him briefly.in the first game and Lebron was too big. He took Frank into the paint, put a shoulder into him, and knocked him out of the way. LBJ has something like 50 pounds on Frank

    9. vincoug

      Can’t believe how good this team has looked, particularly when we looked so bad the first two games. Now I need to start worrying about how we can make the leap to contender within the next few years. Really wish we weren’t paying a combined $36M to Joakim Noah and THJr; would be a helluva lot easier to build a contender if we had that cap space available.

    10. chrisk06811

      I’m not sold Timmy’s deal is that bad. he’s the 63rd highest paid player in the league. I agree we out-bid ourselves by probably $2M / year. Plus, he’s not worth 4 and a quarter Ron Bakers.

      Who are you going to give that $$ to as a restricted or non restricted FA and come away w/ a better player?

    11. DS

      @17 – I doubt it, but I wonder if Cleveland would trade us some shorter contracts for THJ… if we can’t unload those guys until 2020 at least KP will only be 25 and Frank 22.

      I’m really impressed with how good they’ve looked but they’re the #6 seed and you have to figure that at least Cleveland and Milwaukee will surpass them at some point.

    12. Bruno Almeida

      I think the best idea is to not panic and stay the course. Cut Sessions for Noah because he’s useless anyway, keep looking for favourable deals specially if they include Lee and keep going.

      Let’s see how KP handles doing this every night, how Frank and Dotson develop, how Timmy progresses (or doesn’t), etc. If this team simply maintains this level of performance it is a 7th to 8th seed (considering Cleveland and Milwaukee will be in the playoffs, but theres a good chance also that at least the Magic fall off hard). The Heat, Pacers, Hornets and the Sixers are also big question marks in many ways, so honestly, I could still see the Knicks going anywhere from 7th seed to the 12th team in the conference (there’s no way were outtanking the Hawks and Bulls and outsucking the Nets).

    13. ClashFan

      @11

      I got his new nickname boys!

      ‘French Presse’

      I like it, but the media seems to be running with The Frenchise. Like the recent alley-oop to KP was described as The Frenchise to the Franchise.

    14. Bruno Almeida

      By the way, Kristaps reached .614 ts% after last night’s game, and has been shooting better in every category with a .561 efg% and doubling his free throw attempts. The free throw part is specially encouraging because it really seems completely sustainable.

    15. Bruno Almeida

      KPs rebounding is the only skill he hasn’t improved much so far, but the Knicks are 3rd in the league in rebounding differential (14th overall in getting rebounds and 1st in rebounds against), so for me that’s perfectly fine. Also shows Kanter’s impact.

      He’s had very little assists too, but that’s also probably related to him being the only reliable scoring threat out there. He needs to learn to pass better out of double teams because they will be coming a lot, but that’s the next step in his early evolution.

    16. Stratomatic says "NY basketball is back"

      Hardaway has been terrible so far. It’s probably an unwritten rule at this stage that they can’t bench him after just giving him that much money and everyone making it clear they thought it was a huge overpay. It would be too embarrassing. But I’d play Dotson or McBuckets over him right now and turn him into a scorer off the bench. That’s what he is. He’s on a worse contract than Noah. Noah is probably still a productive C for 20 minutes a night. Hardaway gets very hot once in awhile and levels out his stats a bit, but he’s a negative the rest of the time. We have 4 years of this. If this is all he’s got, that contract is a killer.

    17. Stratomatic says "NY basketball is back"

      I love Frank so far, but if he doesn’t get a little more aggressive as a scorer, he’s never going to be a really good player. You can get away with a player scoring 12 or so a game as long as he’s doing everything else well (and you have a guy like KP) but he can’t become a liability as a scorer. At this stage I would rather see him creating and putting up “some” shots and missing than not doing anything at all. Most of these young PGs don’t score efficiently, but you want to at least see that the talent is there.

    18. bidiong

      I just want Frank to shoot when he catches a pass and he’s open. Once he’s comfortable with that he can move on to driving and creating more frequently.

    19. Bruno Almeida

      @26

      Yeah, it seems he’s focusing on his European, team based mentality a little bit too much. It’s fine to look to set up your teammates primarily but if you’re a talented player, you also need to be a threat.

      There’s been some encouraging signs, like the alley oop for KP came with a nice two man game and Frank making a move to the paint, and he seems to be getting more comfortable getting into deeper positions in the paint, but it’s still not good enough.

      I would really like to see the rotations shaken up a bit to allow Frank and KP to develop a better two man game. He’s the best passer we have and KP is the finisher. Start Jack but bring Frank with 7-6 minutes in the first, let them play together the rest of the first quarter and then go back to Jack earlier in the 2nd.

    20. JK47

      Hardaway is off to a terrible start but he’s probably due for some regression to the mean. It’s still a bad contract and he’s a mediocre player, but I think he can and will do better than he has so far.

    21. d-mar

      just a friendly reminder that we have an 87 inch 22 year old averaging 33.7 per 36 at a 61% TS.

      Luke Kornet?

    22. thenoblefacehumper

      On the bright side, “this Knicks-Cavs game will be exciting” is something a perfectly reasonable person could say.

    23. thenoblefacehumper

      Kuz being waived to make way for Noah. If it was up to me it’d probably be Sessions, but seems like there wasn’t much of a trade market so this might be more of a favor than anything else.

    24. alsep73

      Begley tweeted that the team was worried about Jack’s health and thus didn’t want to waive Sessions at the moment.

      I’d have waived Beasley, but given the rotations, it’s clear Hornacek at a minimum, and possibly the front office, disagrees.

    25. danvt

      Smith is shooting 30% from 3’s and 40% overall. He’s averaging 5 AST and 3 TO. He’s taking 14 shots a game. Franks shooting numbers are worse but he’s only taking 5 shots per game. He’s averaging 5 AST and 2 TO’s. Steals DS .9, Frank 1.6. Smith is getting 30 minutes/ game, Frank 20.

      From watching Frank I’m liking his form and thinking his shooting numbers will improve but more importantly he’s doing the right thing looking to pass first. 5 AST in 2o minutes is pretty impressive. I also think the TO numbers will go down as he gets into his second ten NBA games.

      I haven’t watched Smith Jr. nearly enough to judge whether he will improve but he seems to not have nearly the conscience of Frank and percentages like that with volume like that from your PG are what lose games, which Dallas has done practically every night.

      Most importantly, 5 AST in 30 minutes < 5 AST in 20 and .9 STL in 30 < 1.6 / 20. Frank has been significantly better as a playmaker and a defender. His 5 attempts mitigate his, so far, poorer shooting percentages. Smith has been killing his team, taking and missing tons of shots.

      Cue the uproarious laughter.

    26. vincoug

      Having that $36M freed up isn’t just about signing free agents, it can also be used to absorb contracts in uneven trades. But, I can’t imagine that we couldn’t spend some of that $36M on a player(s) better than Noah and THJr.

      Shame about Kuz. I understand why we didn’t want to waive Sessions, though I think we could grab any decent G-League PG and get the same level of production, but I don’t understand keeping Beasley over Kuz.

    27. Bruno Almeida

      @33

      Ok, I get being worried about Jack’s health, but why the hell did they give Ron Baker a 2 year deal with a player option then? If he’s not even going to be in unform in games? Do they think he’s exclusively a shooting guard now, so they gave a 2 year deal for him to be 4th backup SG on the roster? What the hell.

      I don’t mind waiving Kuz, he was unhappy and wanted out anyway, so in the end it’s fine.

    28. Ntilakilla

      Ok, I get being worried about Jack’s health, but why the hell did they give Ron Baker a 2 year deal with a player option then? If he’s not even going to be in unform in games?

      Baker had an ankle problem the past 8-9 games.

    29. Ntilakilla

      I also think the TO numbers will go down as he gets into his second ten NBA games.

      They’ve already started to drop. His ast/to ratio has been very good the past 5 games. Its to be expected since he missed so much of the preseason and Summer League before.

    30. bobneptune

      Dotson is the busiest man in basketball as he is playing for Westchester today….. 3/4 from 3 in the first quarter……

    31. hornyKnickfan

      Baker has only 3 points and 0 assists for Westchester today at the half and yet the team is a plus 15 with him on the floor.

      Dorson is lighting it up and is making theees from well beyond the arc.

      Why don’t they ever send Willy down for some play?

    32. Jack Bauer

      FU LeBron, don’t you have enough to worry about with your own roster? Not sure I agree with the comment above, I can root against LeBron whether he acts like a jerk or not.

      Porzingis certainly looks like he took the leap this year. Because of his length and shooting I think the comparison to KD has some merit. He still has a way to go for that to stick, but so far he looks like a top ten player this year.

      Hornacek deserves some credit with the performance so far. He seems to be pushing the right buttons. They found some useful players in Mcbuckets, Lanter, Frank, and even Jack who seems to able to run the offense. Even THJR and Dotson have been contributing better than expected.

      Have to weigh in:
      KP > WCS now and forever.

    33. d-mar

      Speaking of KD, I was checking out the stat leaders to see where KP is in blocks/game and he’s third behind Gobert and Durant.

      Durant might be the #1 player in the NBA right now, and he’s on a team with Curry, Thompson and Green. FML.

    34. Jack Bauer

      Yeah, GSW roster is ridiculous. It won’t last much longer, the salary cap will see to that.

      I don’t particularly like him, but Harden is putting up some eye popping stats. I’ve watched a few Rockets games and he is near impossible to guard. That step back 3 is just deadly and his handle is pretty damn good.

    35. Bruno Almeida

      @37

      I understand that, so why did he play 35 minutes in Westchester friday and was on a suit against the Kings? He was definitely healthy enough to be active against the Kings, Dotson played 37 minutes on Friday and was available Saturday.

    36. Stratomatic says "NY basketball is back"

      Mills/Perry are worse than Jackson.

      First Mills gave us the disastrous Hardaway/Baker overpays and now they release a player (Kuz) that could be productive if there are any injuries and keep Beasley & Sessions?

      Beasley is a bad joke. Sessions was good pro, but he’s obviously done and is probably 4th man behind Jack, Ntilikina, and Baker. Neither is going to be in the long term plans. Why keep either? You could go to the D League and get a better PG if there were multiple injuries to our PGs.

      It’s not like this particular mistake is going to move the needle much one way or the other. We probably won’t notice it at all. But it’s still another mistake and instructive.

      We are still dealing with morons that are very lucky KP is breaking out into a superstar or we’d probably be 2-10 right now and people would be paying attention to the bad moves they’ve been making since they were handed a team in great long term shape and are very slowly blowing it.

      I’m sick of this bullshit. It’s obvious already that sooner or later these guys are going to make a “fatal” mistake.

      I’m taking a break before I star using foul language and say something I regret.

    37. thenoblefacehumper

      First Mills gave us the disastrous Hardaway/Baker overpays and now they release a player (Kuz) that could be productive if there are any injuries and keep Beasley & Sessions?

      The Hardaway and Baker contracts are bad and I made it very clear that I thought so at the time, but they are both exponentially better than the Lee and Noah deals that seem destined to place a hard cap on this core’s ceiling.

      Kuz seems like a nice guy but he’s already 28, has an expiring contract, and has mostly sucked in the NBA. Beasley was far more productive than him last year and they’re the same age. Sessions will probably be needed down the line when Jack inevitably gets hurt. This is also a goodwill move with Kuz needing to get some playing time if he wants another NBA contract.

    38. 2FOR18, understands math

      Even though he’s now a weenie, there was a time When Bill Simmons was interesting, and one of his best ideas was that each team should employ a VP of Common Sense. This would just be a regular, intelligent sports fan who would be there to veto an obviously stupid decision.
      If the Knicks had this position and it was held by one of the 90% of sensible Knickerbloggers, we wouldn’t be stuck with Noah or Timmy’s contract, Baker would be making the minimum, and the future would look downright unlimited.

      As things stand now, there’s no way to add that second, top 10-15 like star to the roster in order to make a championship a realistic dream. So if it were up to me, I’d trade Oquinn and Lee like yesterday for whatever I could get, play Frank, Dotson, Willy and McBuckets as many minutes as they could handle, and limit KP to 30 mins a game. If we still manage to make the playoffs, then Holy shit we have something here, and if we don’t, then we get into the lottery and have a chance to get that second star.

      What I don’t want is to see Lee, Jack, Noah and O’Quinn get us 40 wins and an 8th seed, with no lottery shot and without knowing what we have in the young guys.

    39. Stratomatic says "NY basketball is back"

      The Hardaway and Baker contracts are bad and I made it very clear that I thought so at the time, but they are both exponentially better than the Lee and Noah deals that seem destined to place a hard cap on this core’s ceiling.

      Noah is a bad contract for 3 more years, but he’s still productive C that can rebound, defend, and make plays for 20 minutes. Hardaway is a bad contract for 4 years and that should be a 6th man on this team and buried on the bench on a good team.

      Lee is not even a bad contract.

      >Kuz seems like a nice guy but he’s already 28, has an expiring contract, and has mostly sucked in the NBA. Beasley was far more productive than him last year and they’re the same age. Sessions will probably be needed down the line when Jack inevitably gets hurt. This is also a goodwill move with Kuz needing to get some playing time if he wants another NBA contract.<

      I'd rather have a 28 year old nice guy that looked like he made some progress in the off season while in Europe than a 28 year old bird brain like Beasley.

      I have no real problem with Sessions. He was a solid pro for a long time, but he's done. If there are multiple injuries there are guys in the D league that can give us minutes on the bench and be as effective as Sessions.

    40. JK47

      Kuz sucks, so it’s fine to let him go. If you really want another Kuz, just go pick out another random rotation player from EuroCup. He’s a fungible player.

    41. 2FOR18, understands math

      The Noah and Hardaway deals were about equally dumb. No point in arguing over terrible vs horrible.
      The galling thing about the Hardaway deal is they already had Lee and Dotson so it had an added level of stupidity. You’re paying 28 mil a year for 2 average SGs. It’s typical infuriating Knicks redundancy.

    42. Brian Cronin

      Kuz sucks, so it’s fine to let him go. If you really want another Kuz, just go pick out another random rotation player from EuroCup. He’s a fungible player.

      But so is Sessions. Sessions doesn’t even play! So I would have still cut Sessions.

    43. 2FOR18, understands math

      What’s funny/knicksy is that Phil tried to win and failed so bad he lucked into KP, and KP is so good now he will cost us a chance at a second star in a loaded draft. Has anyone seen Bagley yet for Duke? Holy shit he’d be the 2nd best player on the Knicks right now.

    44. Brian Cronin

      The Noah and Hardaway deals were about equally dumb. No point in arguing over terrible vs horrible.
      The galling thing about the Hardaway deal is they already had Lee and Dotson so it had an added level of stupidity. You’re paying 28 mil a year for 2 average SGs. It’s typical infuriating Knicks redundancy.

      I think the Hardaway deal has the big advantage over the Noah deal due to age. Taking age out of it, they’re both equally dumb, but THJ is at least sort of young. Noah’s age was what made that deal “Holy shit!” bad. The Lee contract was awful, too, not for Lee himself (who is a decent player) but for the same idea of the age of the guy when the contract was given out. Just dumb, dumb stuff.

      But hey, at least the Knicks drafted Porzingis and I like Ntilikina, as well (and Dotson is looking good)!

    45. Brian Cronin

      What’s funny/knicksy is that Phil tried to win and failed so bad he lucked into KP, and KP is so good now he will cost us a chance at a second star in a loaded draft. Has anyone seen Bagley yet for Duke? Holy shit he’d be the 2nd best player on the Knicks right now.

      I am a Bagley stan, but man, this draft is so loaded up top that Bagley might not even go Top 3 and he’d be a #1 pick in other years! And again, I really really really like Bagley.

    46. ClashFan

      It is a very minor move, but I hope Kuz was cut as a favor to him so that he can hook up with a team that can use him. However, keeping Sessions and Beasley over him seems silly. If nothing else, keep the more likable guy if all three basically stink.

      I’ve read that sometimes moves like these are more favors to certain agents, etc. to try to build some good will. Maybe.

    47. ClashFan

      BTW, it is a bit harsh, but Deadspin has a funny headline about the Kuz move:
      Knicks waive Half-Decent Player to Make Room for Moldering Skeleton.

      The skeleton is, of course, Noah.

    48. dtrickey

      Disappointing to lose Kuz, but it seemed kind of inevitable given Beasley and Lance were getting the minutes as the backup 3. Would have been nice to get a second for him, but it sounds like there wasn’t much of a market for him. He was a pretty meh player so it’s probably no huge loss, but hopefully he finds himself in a good situation where he can get some minutes. Seems like a pretty good guy.

    49. lavor postell

      I’d have waived Sessions, but Kuz is acceptable. He’s not young and McDermott is a way better version of him. Lance provides a different set of skills and Beasley is a microwave scorer type that I hope we use sporadically when we’re looking for an offensive spark and not as a consistent rotation player.

    50. Z-man

      I really liked Kuz, but it seems that McBuckets made him redundant. Maybe Clyde complained that he couldn’t pronounce his name.

    51. Z-man

      And really, does it matter much who they kept? The rotation is set and Kuz and Sessions are both not in it.

    52. DRed

      one of his best ideas was that each team should employ a VP of Common Sense. This would just be a regular, intelligent sports fan who would be there to veto an obviously stupid decision.
      If the Knicks had this position and it was held by one of the 90% of sensible Knickerbloggers, we wouldn’t be stuck with Noah or Timmy’s contract

      I know a certain handsome poster who would be terrific at that job

    53. GoNyGoNyGo

      I liked Kuz. But we all know he was limitted. MCDermott is much better. I guess our SF’s are Lee, McDermott and Thomas. That works for me, for now.

      But what is Noah’s role? We have four centers now. Will wily ever get playing time now?

    54. bockadoo

      I think Lebron is an a-hole for making that comment. Have any other players/management ever commented negatively about other team’s draft picks? I can’t think of one. Unprofessional. I think less of him now. I’m sure he’d be disappointed to know that.

    55. dtrickey

      LeBron also said that Shabazz Napier was the pick of the 2014 draft, so I am not going to back his scouting.

    56. #fireRambis

      Sessions is insurance to Jack, re: injury
      no matter how he is not performing
      logjam at 4 and 5
      East is big still applies lol

    57. Brian Cronin

      Why aren’t the Mavs playing Nerlens?

      They have a ton of centers and still insist on playing Dirk even though he is done (sort of like Kobe’s last season in LA) and Dirk can only play the 5 now.

    58. Brian Cronin

      I think they should have kept Kuz over Sessions if only because the following headline, “Lakers, Bulls, Hawks Eyeing Mindaugas Kuzminskas” would not be written about Sessions had he been the one to get cut.

    59. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      Salah Mejhri has been pretty great but he’s gotten even fewer minutes than Noel

    60. Knick fan not in NJ at this time

      I predict Kuz may actually get claimed off of waivers. I know it’s not common, but that’s because players who are waived ausually have a high salary that isn’t justified, or at least is high enough that no one will trade anything for them; and they also typically have multiyear contracts that teams don’t want to take on. Teams wait for them to clear waivers because then they can offer the minimum salary for one year. The player still gets his full contract salary because whatever the new team won’t pay the old team does. But Kuz’s salary is quite reasonable and his contract expires at the end of the season.

      Waiver claims go in draft order and each team gets a choice in turn. So some team can guarantee getting him by claiming him, and not pay much more than the minimum for him anyway. About fifteen teams can afford him now and there’s no cap hit for next year since his contract will have expired. I think some team may do that, rather than bid on the free market.

    61. Knick fan not in NJ at this time

      Who would claim him is another question. Chicago, Sacramento, Dallas, and Memphis all need offensive help, which I think is why a team would claim him; and they also have enough cap room or can make enough to claim him. Sacramento got a lot of youth through the draft and I don’t see them claiming him. The Bulls are reportedly interested, but I am not sure their front office will step up and claim, because the extra million dollars they would pay for him seems to matter to their front office. Dallas is more flexible in their thinking. So I predict they will claim him while Chicago and the Lakers wait for him to come off of waivers.

    62. Knick fan not in NJ at this time

      Thats a good question. I’m pretty sure your cap spsce doesn’t go up even though some other team is paying his salary. Otherwise, teams might try to use waiving players to get below the cap and sign someone else. I tried looking up the answer to be sure, but it was quite complicated. I did find:

      If a team makes a successful waiver claim, it acquires the player and his existing contract, and pays the remainder of his salary — the waiving team is relieved of all responsibility for the player.

      So maybe the salary would come off the cap. If he clears waivers, and then dome hires him, I found this confusing example

      For example, suppose a fifth-year player is waived with one guaranteed season remaining on his contract for $5 million. If this player signs a $2 million contract with another team for the 2017-18 season, his original team gets to set off $2 million minus $1,312,611 (the minimum salary for a one-year veteran in 2017-18), divided by two, or $343,694. The team is still responsible for paying $4,656,306 of the original $5 million. Note that between his prior team and new team the player will earn a combined $6,656,306, which was more than he earned prior to being waived.

      So Kuz might actually get a raise out of this

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