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Tuesday, December 12, 2017

Knicks Morning News (2017.10.05)

  • [NY Newsday] Kristaps Porzingis gets first look at being the Knicks’ focal point
    (Wednesday, October 04, 2017 1:21:54 PM)

    Kristaps Porzingis didn’t want Carmelo Anthony’s old locker. But the new face of the Knicks took his old teammate’s seat on the bench and will try to fill his void on offense.

  • [NYDN] FS1 removes ‘hopeless’ Knicks subway ad campaign
    (Wednesday, October 04, 2017 7:52:31 AM)

    Fox Sports 1’s Knicks subway ad campaign has taken an express train to nowhere.

  • [NYDN] Knicks’ Porzingis explains why he doesn’t want to play center
    (Wednesday, October 04, 2017 7:50:41 AM)

    The idea of Kristaps Porzingis playing center has always stimulated drooling from scouts. But here’s why he wants to avoid it.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks’ Kanter would’ve taken a knee during the national anthem
    (Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:07:16 PM)

    Despite many teams in the NFL and NBA expressing their willingness to sit or take a knee during the national anthem, the Knicks decided they would all stand in unity.

  • [SNY Knicks] NBA GMs believe Kristaps Porzingis is ready for breakout campaign
    (Wednesday, October 04, 2017 6:36:42 PM)

    Voting on various categories in the NBA.com GM Survey, decision makers said that Knicks big man Kristaps Porzingis has a good chance for a breakout season.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks waive forward Jamel Artis
    (Wednesday, October 04, 2017 6:04:25 PM)

    Artis signed as an undrafted free agent this summer after playing with the University of Pittsburgh.

  • [SNY Knicks] FS1 removing ad that depicts ‘hopeless’ Knicks on NYC Subway
    (Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:27:41 AM)

    FS1 re-evaluated the advertisement and decided to pull it off of subways.

  • [NYPost] Carmelo’s potential replacement turning Knicks’ heads
    (Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:15:11 PM)

    If Doug McDermott becomes Carmelo Anthony’s replacement as the Knicks starting small forward, Enes Kanter said he thinks fans will be surprised at the fireworks. After all, McDermott’s college nickname was “Dougie McBuckets.’’ Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek already has taken a shine to the former Creighton superstar, who Kanter believes is as accurate from beyond…

  • [NYPost] NBA GMs are buying into the Porzingis hype, too
    (Wednesday, October 04, 2017 8:44:22 AM)

    The NBA’s GMs must have followed Kristaps Porzingis’ Instagram account this summer. Porzingis boldly stated he would be an All-Star in his third season. Wednesday’s annual GM survey confirmed they think so, too. Porzingis finished tied for second with Myles Turner for player most likely to have a breakout season, with 14 percent of the…

  • [NYTimes] Lynx 85, Sparks 76: Lynx Capture Fourth W.N.B.A. Title With Game 5 Win Over Sparks
    (Thursday, October 05, 2017 4:00:48 AM)

    Sylvia Fowles, the 2017 W.N.B.A. Most Valuable Player, had 17 points and 20 rebounds in Minnesota’s win over Los Angeles, giving the team four titles in seven season.

  • 49 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2017.10.05)

    1. Frank

      Watched the game finally and came away with a few thoughts-

      1) Ntilikina IS really smooth on the offensive end. Never seems in a hurry, and I was encouraged that the Nets tried to pressure him and he didn’t seem to have too much issue with that, at least with Russell being the guy trying to pressure him. He has a good sense of when/how to pass in the PNR, which is really refreshing, although he definitely could have gotten his shot a bit more going to the basket. Shot looks pure even though he only made one jumper.

      Defensively though — he’s got those pterodactyl arms but he just looks….slow-footed out there. I think he’ll get a ton of deflections if not outright steals, but I worry what the Westbrooks/Walls of the world will do to him just in terms of pure footspeed. I guess we’ll see.

      2) THJ is a very different player offensively than he was when he was with us last time. In limited minutes he probably had 4-5 potential assists, and a couple of those passes were pretty fantastic. And we’ll see if this is a real thing during the season but 7 rebounds and 2 steals is pretty unexpected. Defensively he still seemed to get lost a lot. oh well.

      3) Kanter is 2013-15 Amare-esque – I mean their numbers are so amazingly similar other than that Kanter is a better offensive rebounder. So efficient offensively but so bad defensively — and not necessarily for lack of effort. They just don’t know where to be. He’s a sneaky tank commander.

      4) Starting SF is going to be an interesting choice for Hornacek. McBuckets probably belongs on the second unit where he won’t get roasted by opposing wings. That said, we don’t really have anyone that can guard the bigger 3’s, unless we’re thinking about Lance Thomas.

      5) Speaking of Lance – I’ve always been a fan, but it’s pretty hard to argue against his awful +/-. If Perry can trade him for top-55 protected 2nd rounder i’d be happy

    2. Early Bird

      If you’re worried about McBuckets on D. Then Lee and THJr probably start together. We just don’t have the depth to be choosy with sf.

    3. Frank

      Might be an unpopular opinion, but I might actually think about a starting lineup of Ntilikina, THJ, Lee, KP, and Noah (when he’s back). I definitely would NOT start Sessions and Kanter together – those two would get 1-5 PNR’d to death. Maybe just have Noah in for 4-5 minutes until some of the subs start happening. I think that’d be our best defensive lineup, and could set the tone for the game. Then bring Sessions off the bench, rotate THJ/Lee/McBuckets (or throw Kuz/Dotson some minutes) and give Willy/KOQ/Kanter some burn.

      We really need to trade one of our centers. It’s definitely not going to be Noah or Kanter traded, so my hope would be that KOQ is traded — not because I don’t think he’s a good player but because he’s the only one that might bring something ok back. It’s just crazy how few teams need bigs nowadays.

    4. lavor postell

      Defensively though — he’s got those pterodactyl arms but he just looks….slow-footed out there. I think he’ll get a ton of deflections if not outright steals, but I worry what the Westbrooks/Walls of the world will do to him just in terms of pure footspeed. I guess we’ll see.

      He hurt his ankle fairly early on after a really good defensive possession on Russell. After that he was a lot slower in his lateral movement and more tentative going over screens. Also played through that groin injury. If our primary concern is that two of the fastest and flat out best PGs in the league will be able to get buckets on him defensively, I think we’re in good shape.

      Frank looked good in PnR and did a good job of running halfcourt offense without taking a year to get something set up, which was good. Frank looked good in PnR and did a good job of running halfcourt offense without taking a year to get something set up, which was good. He’s going to need to get comfortable with and improve his ability to create his own offense, be it pull up jumpers, floaters or at the rim. It was just the Nets and the first preseason game, but he looked a lot better than the complete raw project label he was assigned for seemingly no reason.

      I was happy to see KP get into good positions and hold them comfortably, even though he missed some makeable shots and rushed a few others. I feel pretty good about his ability to take advantage of mismatches this year.

      Dotson is going to need to get minutes one way or another. He boards, he’s got quick feet defensively, he can shoot the ball and he gets up the floor real quick. I’m skeptical he has much upside, but he looks like a plug and play 3&D guy to me.

      Hornacek will have to play shitty defensive combos all the time because that’s the hand he’s been dealt, but never should we see Beasley/Kanter frontcourts.

      Jack needs to get cut.

    5. mase

      After one preseason game it’s very hard to draw the conclusions you guys are making… Coaches are trying out offensive and defensive schemes, Trying to build a roster and figure out rotations.

      I was very impressed with frank all around, he looks like the closest thing to a pg we have had in 20 years so I guess I’m easily impressed but I need to see a lot more before I make assessments.

    6. ClashFan

      It’s meaningless, of course, but a bit surprised that Artis was the first cut. XR-M looked truly awful out there. Artis can score…I guess Westchester bound.

      In my quick grades after the game, I noted Jack’s 5 shots in just 9 minutes. That doesn’t look like a mentoring point guard, but more like a guy whose play mirrors his last name.

      Frank’s handle bears watching, but I’m encouraged by him.

    7. Silky Johnson, Fleet Admiral of the Tank Armada

      From what i saw of Frank’s handle, it’s only high/loose when he’s backing up or maneuvering past the key. When he drives, it seems to tighten up a bit, which is promising. I don’t know what that says about his resistance to heavy ball pressure, but he acquitted himself decently despite the high handle. I’m tentatively bullish on that front–pending a larger sample, of course.

    8. mase

      Frank is a massive dude I would imagine his handle is more fluid on the break than in half court sets but he’s still 19 and growing into his game. He gonna be a monster for us, I expect great things.

    9. ess-dog

      I thought Sessions looked legit on offense, and yet Ntilikina looked without a doubt like the more physical and craftier guard. It was very encouraging. Sure, he had issues closing out on shooters, but everyone on the team did. He’s already one of the better defenders on the team.

      Willy’s defense did not look good. I’m hoping he’s just tired from the Euros or something.

      If we actually want wins, the best starting lineup would probably be Ntilikina/TH2/Lee/Kyle/KP. It’s a small lineup but one of the better ones defensively. It would be fantastic if even one of Beasley/McBuckets/Kanter became even average on D. That being said, the door is open for Dotson to win minutes at the 3 if he can be a tough defender and hit threes.

    10. er

      Ntilikina doubtful for tomorrow with confused right knee – same knee from summer league.

      -Mark Berman

    11. rama in the JING

      Is his knee unsure whether he’s a point guard or shooting guard? Because I thought that was settled.

    12. Totes McGoats Makes 18mil For 14ppg

      Willy is a problem..in a good way. He’s so good and inexpensive that you can’t trade him- unless you get back a great pick. Besides, I wouldn’t wanna see him traded anyway. Kanter is also a problem..but kinda in a bad way. Very talented as well, but he makes too much money to find a palatable trade for him- so the team is gonna hafta showcase him with hopes of packaging him with another player when he’s eligible to be traded with another player. That makes only one center tradeable, and he happens to be a player I don’t want to see traded as well- KOQ. Considering what Noah brings when he’s healthy, we all know he’s gonna play- and he’s untradeable. Quite frankly, I would like the team to keep him if he really is healthy.

      I’ve advocated a KOQ/Lee trade because it’s the most logical trade, but KOQ fits in great up front. So does Noah when healthy. I don’t know how Mills and Hornacek are gonna figure this out in their respective roles, but I’m not sure that having all these bigs can be a positive. The only bigs that have proven that they should play are KOQ and Willy, mostly because Kanter’s new and Noah’s suspended and an injury concern. Because of the suspension, Hornacek can get away with not giving Noah minutes for a while, but at some point he won’t be able to keep him off the court.

      I don’t envy Hornacek one bit, this will be a make or break season for him in season 2. Kinda odd that the same thing kinda happened to him in Phoenix isn’t it?

    13. danvt

      Yes, I think Lee at the three. TH2 at the 2. Frank at the 1. KP6 at the 4. Wily at the 5.

      This is the lineup that would have put the kibosh on the open threes Tuesday night, plus you have length inside. We need a defense that matches what offenses in this league are doing.

    14. mase

      Utah has no need for Rubio they have theee young pgs who need to play, we have one too many centers. In a perfect world that’s an Even swap

    15. chrisk06811

      we dont have too many bigs until and unless Noah comes back and proves he is healthy enough to play

    16. Ntilakilla

      My worry with Frank is the same worry Sixers fans had with Simmons last season. Putting on all that weight in such a short amount of time on such a young body can put an inordinate amount of strain during the rigors of a full NBA season. I wonder if all that bulking up is doing a number on his joints.

    17. Frank

      I think Frank just banged knees with Kanter. That seems like a normal incidental basketball injury, and he’s expecting to play on sunday. Not sure if we have to go jumping off a building just yet.

    18. iserp

      Utah has no need for Rubio they have theee young pgs who need to play, we have one too many centers. In a perfect world that’s an Even swap

      Utah was more than happy to trade Kanter to OKC, why would they want him now?

    19. TheOakmanCometh

      Utah could use Kanter’s offense, but they’d never trade Rubio for him. Rubio is a better player, makes less money, doesn’t have a player option like Kanter, and the Jazz just traded a 1st round pick to get him.

    20. Totes McGoats Makes 18mil For 14ppg

      Charlotte’s not giving MKG up with Batum unavailable. Maybe Mills can check back in on Harkless or pry Ariza away from Houston with Kanter. Pringles would love Kanter- he’s an upgrade on offense over Capela and Nene

    21. TheOakmanCometh

      Hey Charlotte, you want Tim Hardaway? Yes, he signed a ridiculous contract, but that’s in the past, so don’t worry about it.

    22. english_knick

      In thinking about which big to trade you have to take context into account. In the abstract, KOQ is a great guy to have. He’s a good player on a very good deal.

      But for us? He’s too old to be part of the rebuild. He’s opting out this summer and asking for 10m plus – so in our timeline he’s also too expensive. Willy is young and cost controlled. Kanter is young, and at least worth a look plus is overpaid so not a good chip. Noah is untradeable.

      I like KOQ a lot but he is far and away the best combo of value to other teams and limited value to us. It has to be him.

    23. Bruno Almeida

      @30

      I watched quite a lot of the game and man, he looks real good, like rookie of the year good. Not a great shooter but his passing and shot creation will have an immediate impact.

      I can see him developing as sort of a less athletic / more finesse Giannis, if he can manage to finish around the rim consistently. I’m fairly convinced that unless something really really tragic happens Philly will win 35+ games this year. They have good depth and parts that actually seem to compliment each other.

    24. DRed

      Charlotte does not have anything to trade really. They have no sizeable expiring contracts. We could do something like Lee for Lamb + J Obryant III and T Graham (whoever they are).

    25. Bruno Almeida

      The Hornets could give Kidd-Gilchrist but then they open up a hole on the other wing position. They’ll probably just roll with Monk and see what happens.

    26. Z-man

      Sorry, I’m not boarding the Frank Ntilikina hype train yet. Not after a 1-7, 3 assist, 2 TO performance. Let’s see what happens over the next two weeks.

    27. Z-man

      If we have to wait until he’s 25, that’s a problem. He better be good faster than that, especially if anyone picked shortly after him becomes a star well before then.

    28. Z-man

      As to 2 weeks, that’s in reference to whether he should be a “starter” as some above suggest. I keep reading “poised” and “patient” and feeling those are euphemisms for “slow” and “indecisive.” I hear “he has great form” as a euphemism for “he can’t shoot yet.” And that’s against the scrubs of a scrubby team.

      In a couple of weeks we’ll have seen se a bunch of game action vs. real opposing guards. Let’s see how that pans out.

    29. Donnie Walsh

      Hey Charlotte, you want Tim Hardaway? Yes, he signed a ridiculous contract, but that’s in the past, so don’t worry about it.

      What’s not in the past yet is December 15th, which is when his ridiculous contract can be traded.

    30. DRed

      I keep reading “poised” and “patient” and feeling those are euphemisms for “slow” and “indecisive.” I hear “he has great form” as a euphemism for “he can’t shoot yet.” And that’s against the scrubs of a scrubby team.

      His knicks career spans one preseason game. And the nets are going to be decent if they stay healthy this year.

    31. Z-man

      Correct, DRed. And I don’t see you dubbing him a starter yet. That’s my point. The kid’s got potential but it’s still a very 2-sided argument. I would have loved to see him vs. John Wall tonight, for example. But whether or not he can guard or score against Jeremy Lin, D’Angelo Russell, and the guys backing them up, is hardly a representative sample of what he would face as a starter in the NBA. If the Nets are better, their backcourt is still mediocre at best.

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