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Knicks Morning News (2016.11.27)

  • [NYTimes] Hornets 107, Knicks 102: Hornets Take Their Revenge and Stop the Knicks’ Streak
    (Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:09:22 AM)

    Charlotte avenged an overtime loss from a night earlier with a over the Knicks that halted their winning streak at three.

  • [NY Newsday] Joakim Noah hopes to begin making an impact
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:35:21 PM)

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  • [NY Newsday] Knicks fight back after bad first quarter but lose to Hornets
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:03:15 PM)

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  • [NY Newsday] Melo discusses Knicks’ Porzingis-centric personality transition
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 3:54:00 PM)

    You could feel the shift inside Madison Square Garden and within the Knicks’ offense. Carmelo Anthony is no longer the main go-to guy or player the Knicks run things through primarily. But then there are nights like Friday.

  • [NYDN] Autistic nephew, 9, of ex-Knick Marcus Camby found dead in Texas
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:28:20 PM)

    Police in Texas have found the body of the 9-year-old autistic nephew of former NBA player Marcus Camby.

  • [NYDN] Knicks, Carmelo Anthony blow opportunity in Hornets loss
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:03:55 PM)

    The Knicks fell to 1-6 on the road.

  • [NYDN] Joakim Noah knows he needs to play better for Knicks
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 5:33:13 PM)

    Noah’s disappointing start in New York has included injury, offensive ineffectiveness, illness and long stretches on the bench.

  • [NYPost] Joakim Noah may be getting healthier, but his game’s ailing
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:13:57 PM)

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Knicks starting center Joakim Noah said he is inching closer to 100 percent after battling the flu and is eager to play crunch-time minutes. But that didn’t come close to happening in Saturday’s 107-102 loss to the Hornets. In his second game back, Noah was held to 12 minutes and went scoreless…

  • [NYPost] Knicks crank up road struggles with game-killing start and finish
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 4:46:27 PM)

    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — On the road again, the Knicks remained a travel nightmare. An awful start, an ice-cold finish and a fatigued Carmelo Anthony prevented the Knicks’ groove and three-game winning streak from continuing Saturday at Spectrum Arena against the injury-depleted Hornets. One of the themes of the Knicks’ season has been their inability to…

  • [NYPost] Marcus Camby’s autistic nephew found dead
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 9:53:35 AM)

    PEARLAND, Texas — Police in Texas have found the body of the 9-year-old autistic nephew of former NBA player Marcus Camby who went missing during the family’s Thanksgiving celebration on Camby’s property. Pearland Police Lt. Onesimo Lopez told the Houston Chronicle that the body of Marcus McGhee was found in a lake on Camby’s Houston-area…

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks fall to Hornets 107-102, split home-and-home series
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:34:49 PM)

    The Hornets held Carmelo Anthony to 18 points the day after he scored 35 against them in New York and held off the Knicks for a 107-102 victory Saturday in Charlotte.

  • [SNY Knicks] Knicks head to Charlotte seeking sweep of home-and-home over Hornets
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 6:09:00 PM)

    The Knicks take on the Hornets in Charlotte on Saturday night to complete a home-and-home.

  • [SNY Knicks] Carmelo Anthony returns to MVP candidate form in win over Hornets
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 12:12:22 PM)

    In one of Carmelo Anthony’s most versatile efforts as a Knick, his 35-point, 14-rebound and five-assist effort led the Knicks to a very exciting victory over Charlotte.

  • [SNY Knicks] Hornacek pushing all the right buttons early in Knicks tenure
    (Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:23:23 AM)

    The Knicks now have three big-time offensive players who can finish games, a notion that Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek hoped would be the case when the team started training camp in October.

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    95 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2016.11.27)

    1. DS

      Time to rest Melo (ala Spurs) on second game of back to backs.

      Right, but I don’t get the sense that Hornacek will tell ‘Melo to take a breather or to stop shooting when he clearly is not hitting his shots. ‘Melo would have to figure these things out on his own.

    2. Zanzibar

      When you gaze at the stars at night, some of those stars no longer exist and what you are seeing is the light from the dead distant stars which takes a long time to travel to earth. Phil’s been blinded by the light of burnt-out stars: Melo, Calderon, Rose, Noah dot the Knicksian galaxy.

      What makes this particularly galling is that Phil may have won the lottery in KP but now has invested most of his winnings in myspace.com. We know how this is gonna turnout. Melo will have more and more bad games. Rose will be Rose. Noah will sputter along until his once vaunted motor stops altogether. Injuries will start to happen. If we’re unlucky, we may eke into the playoffs and lose a valuable lottery pick. Phil needs to act swiftly on Dec 15 to forestall this: there’s probably some Thibs deal there for Noah. There might even be a Clipper deal where Melo/Lee go to Clips, Redick to Kings, WCS to NYK (Crawford/Rivers/Afflalo/Barnes contracts make numbers work). Of course, none of this will happen because….well….Knicks.

      To quote Don McLean from the end of the song Starry Starry Night: They would not listen, they’re not listening still. Perhaps they never will.

    3. reub

      I think that we will be seeing more of KP, Willy and Kuz or Holiday for longer stretches. When Melo is hurting the team he should be sat down right next to Noah to reflect on distant stars.

    4. reub

      Before we knock Rose too much for last night’s performance, let’s remember that he had 8 rebounds and 8 assists plus 2 steals and 2 more blocks in the game. He also added 5 free throws. He did a lot to help the team whereas Melo and Noah didn’t.

    5. Theo

      Said it before the season began: this is a bad team and the former ‘stars’ will have the occasional good game that makes gullible fans feel they are finally ‘turning the corner’.

      We are not going anywhere, folks.

    6. The Knicks Should Tank

      The Knicks are a predictable team. Last night wasn’t the most winnable game but we had a shot considering Charlotte was without two starters. With shooting as bad as it was last night we’re not gonna win games as our defensive chops aren’t where they need to be.

      We didn’t get blown out though, so that’s an improvement over our last big loss vs Washington.

    7. rama

      Still not 20 games.

      And having watched the game again, we didn’t win because we were tired. Period. Not saying that’s good, just saying it is unrelated to construction of the roster, etc. Lots of open shots rimming out, lots of slow rotations on D.

      Tired.

    8. DRed

      Knicks lose last game of the season to get their record to 45-37

      Theo: “I was the only one courageous enough to say this, but this is a terrible basketball team, and you all ridiculed me for having the bravery and the integrity to say it. You should be ashamed.”

    9. kevin5318

      10 games against non playoff teams and 5 against playoff teams in december. Only 2 B2B’s as well.

      8-8 is better than I thought we would be at this point.

    10. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      I refuse to allow Friday’s last-second hero-ball FGM to be praised while a 6-20 shooting performance is dismissed because of 8 assists.

    11. The Knicks Should Tank

      At Knickerblogger we bash the Knicks no matter what the victory outcome is.

      Honestly I don’t understand why the Knicks couldn’t shoot last night. I would single out Derrick Rose’s shit shooting but Melo was worse. I do see that we were fouling way too often again as Charlotte shot 42 free throws to our 20 and we lost the rebound battle by 6. Still somehow we managed to only lose by 5.

      KP has no reason to not be grabbing rebounds. 6 rebounds in 37 minutes from your starting power forward will never cut it.

      We need to be able to put wins together on the road if we want to make noise. I like the Rose has cut the turnovers down, but we need our guys to pick up the scoring effort and not miss so many jumpers.

    12. Theo

      It’s not bashing a good team, guys; the Knicks are not good and telling the truth about them is not bashing.

      It’s about bringing a bit of objectivity to a forum dominated by delusion and a loser’s attitude, where mediocrity is celebrated and the average poster drastically changes opinion from game to game, always failing to see the big picture.

    13. d-mar

      Strangest (and most alarming) stat of the night was Jeremy Lamb with 17 freakin’ rebounds, 2 offensive.

      There’s gotta be a way to blame it on Noah (even though Lamb is a SG and Noah played 12 minutes.)

    14. DRed

      We’re 8-8 but we probably should be 7-9, maybe 6-10. Then again the schedule has been fairly tough and it eases up this month.

    15. reub

      No, Lamb’s accomplishment has nothing to do with Noah because Noah was benched for most of it due to horrible play. Again.

    16. Dough Chew

      It’s about bringing a bit of objectivity to a forum dominated by delusion and a loser’s attitude, where mediocrity is celebrated and the average poster drastically changes opinion from game to game, always failing to see the big picture.

      lol

    17. Bruno Almeida

      .500 but we got major breaks in terms of players being injured against the knicks.

      and if the knicks were tired last night, what about charlotte, being down 2 crucial starters? wouldn’t they be even more tired due to missing guys who take about 60 minutes every game?

      this team needs to focus on Porzingis a lot more and whenever Rose and Melo are shooting this bad, they need to either recognize it themselves or Hornacek needs to take them out. Rose had assists and rebounds and decent defense but that means nothing if he can’t make good decisions on offense and stop shooting when he’s this cold.

    18. reub

      The thing about Noah is that not only do we have KP, O’Quinn and Willy better equipped to replace him, there’s Plumlee too. He will be good. So what can we get for Noah then? I’d like an overpriced wing, maybe someone like Crabbe? Iguodala would be optimal but his salary is much less.

    19. JK47

      The Knicks are a .500 team, their Pythag is a bit worse than that but they’ve been playing a little better recently. They still look like a high 30/low 40 win team to me. Which is kind of the worst case scenario but whatever. I’m hoping that they play better and crack the mid 40’s rather than play worse and sink to the low 30’s.

    20. The Knicks Should Tank

      Why don’t think Knicks ever take advantage of stupid teams like Orlando? Having Tobias Harris on this roster would have been awesome.

    21. gransoporro

      Reub, your posts are lacking triangularity today.

      The new signings cannot be traded for a bit more than 2 weeks anyway.

    22. reub

      I am well aware of that and I am certain that Noah will not be traded anyway. If we use him against teams with bruising centers and slow guards that will probably be his role going forward. But we should look to trade him because he’s bad.

    23. reub

      Tommy Beer:

      Derrick Rose has made 7-of-10 shots in one possesion games w/ < 5 mins left this season.

      Among qualified players, his 70% leads the league

    24. Ingmarrr

      Theo, all your posts are subjective analysis sandwiched between self pity and delusion

      Whoever Theo is, I think he’s a genius. To have a username exclusively for after-loss posts with exactly the same content – and generate so much attention – is genius.
      Compare him to Reub, who writes hundreds of posts a week and actually seems like he’s watching the games, and you’ll realize how beautifully efficient Theo is.

    25. Knew Your Nicks

      I’ll keep the comeback from -21 from last night’s game.
      Despite most played like shit they had the chance to win the game.

      Are the Knicks a good team ?
      Are the other teams SO MUCH better ?

    26. Totes McGoats

      Last night, Melo & Rose didn’t have their legs under them for the most part. Melo was worse than Rose, but Rose should have attacked more knowing that his J wasn’t falling. The team is getting a bad whistle this season, but that’s no excuse for playing defense with their hands more often than with their feet. Even still, it wasn’t just the poor shooting and excessive fouling that hurt the team. They seemed almost listless in the 1st. KP boards better and the team scores better with KOQ starting, but if Noah doesn’t have his typical energy and effect as a starter, I don’t think he will have it coming off the bench. He has to start or be traded. But my fingers are still crossed that he rounds into better form sooner than later. I don’t think Noah’s a bad player, but rather he’s in a helluva rut and needs to get untracked. Problem is, every game it seems to look worse for him.

    27. TheOakmanCometh

      It’s wishful thinking to ask Melo to stop shooting voluntarily when he’s having an off night. Melo is who he is. There’s no reason to think he’ll change this far into his career. Whether he’s hot or not, he always thinks the next jab-step jumper is going in.

      Coaching is the only way to get the ball out of his hands when he’s cold.

    28. Bruno Almeida

      I agree @37, but then Horny needs to do something.

      there will always be nights when this kind of stuff will happen, and they will severely hamper this teams ability to be relevant… the knicks have a pick in what seems to be the ideal draft for this team, so specially in this season the absolute worst case scenario is to be around .500… I hate this situation so much, because this team seems headed to a 5th or 6th seed and that is terrible considering melo, noah and rose are only getting worse from now on.

    29. Jack Bauer

      They must dramatically improve on defense to have a chance at being a better team. Most nights the offense is above average, but the terrible defense is killing them. Your move Hornacek, do something about it.

    30. Ras1980

      KP was straight up gassed after playing the most minutes on the team. It was obvious that he didn’t have the legs to go out there and catch up with guys like Kaminsky who were fresh. Hornacek is going to have conserve him down the line.

    31. Ras1980

      I hate this situation so much, because this team seems headed to a 5th or 6th seed and that is terrible considering melo, noah and rose are only getting worse from now on.

      I’ve mentioned this time and time again for why I want to sell our assets sooner than later and build around KP. But it gets dismissed as premature everytime we win. If we had balls we’d seek a trade my midseason should this team be on the cusp of making the playoffs.

    32. The Knicks Should Tank

      KP is 21 years old. Hornacek doesn’t need to conserve him; KP needs to work on his stamina. I know being anemic doesn’t help his case, but he is the franchise player for the New York Knicks. We have the resources to help him be as successful as he needs to be.

    33. Ras1980

      KP is 21 years old. Hornacek doesn’t need to conserve him; KP needs to work on his stamina. I know being anemic doesn’t help his case, but he is the franchise player for the New York Knicks. We have the resources to help him be as successful as he needs to be.

      He doesn’t have the history of playing these minutes over an 82 game scale.

    34. Bruno Almeida

      @42

      yeah, it’s such a huge missed opportunity, and considering how Dolan runs this team, it’s a disaster waiting to happen…

      this team needs to be either ready to contend with Cleveland and Toronto, or to tank… it’s ok for a team like Boston to be the 5th seed, because they have young players and lots of picks and flexibility… it’s NOT OK for the Knicks to be the 5th seed with Carmelo visibly getting past his prime, Rose expiring and Noah looking like he’s done in the first year of a four-year contract.

      the Knicks might just be on the verge of wasting KP’s prime in the next coming years and that would be an unprecedented disaster, specially considering that being in the playoffs will put the Knicks in win-now mode even more.

      the NBA is a cruel league, the Suns thought they had a contender for years, then suddenly Amare’s knees were done and they are still rebuilding after 7 years… it could very well happen with Porzingis down the stretch, and who knows when or if we’ll be getting a player of his caliber again?

    35. reub

      This team can be very good now. And better in the future just by staying the course. We already have KP, Willy, Plumlee, NDour, Baker, and Kuz going forward plus draft picks. At least 2 of them could be All stars. One a potential hall of famer. We’ll also have plenty of cap space ahead to add more talent. There’s no need to become the 76ers for the next ten years.

    36. reub

      @46 My optimism is sky high, Jack. I just don’t like what I’ve seen from Noah. Everything else is A-okay.

    37. Ras1980

      We already have KP, Willy, Plumlee, NDour, Baker, and Kuz going forward plus draft picks.

      I like a lot of the talent you’re presenting here, however, only one player on this list is a starter moving forward. The rest of our starting group is either on the wrong side of 30 (Melo, Noah, Lee), riddled with a troubled injury history (Rose).

      The only way I can make sense of what we’re seeing with this team is that Phil has built two teams – an older starting club built around Melo to win now (Noah, Lee, Rose) and a younger developing core built around KP (Willy, Kuz, Baker, Ndour) that will play together for years.

    38. reub

      @53 Yes, I believe there is a two team track here with KP being the bridge and Willy being close to a second level on that same bridge.

      And no, it’s not a bridge to nowhere so don’t say it.

    39. Knew Your Nicks

      Right after the loss from the Wizards many were predicting that we will probably lose the next 4 games and that they would be happy with a split [2W/2L]
      We won 3 [almost 4] against tough teams and ‘Queen Negativity’ is still reigning in here…

      chill out pessims

    40. Knew Your Nicks

      I remember checking right before the game against Chi that we were last[30th] in Team Rebs per game [avg40] and now i see that we’re 5th [avg45,5].
      Not bad at all !

    41. Ras1980

      The “two team” concept is pretty much the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

      Au contraire mon frère. Its even dumber to believe the one team concept which says this club is built to compete now.

    42. rama

      We are a mediocre team. We are not likely to be significantly above .500 until mid-January. But we are fun to watch (mostly), have serious cap space, our first round pick, and most of our roster is tradeable.

      The real key is what we do with our options. This was never going to be the year. It’s all about what comes next.

      We have done 3 good things to give us hope: pick KP, hire Hornacek, and sign/draft/trade for good bench players in Willy, O’Quinn, Holiday, Jennings, and Kuz.

      We have done stupid things like MegaMax NTC, give Noah 4 years, and hire Fish.

      There’s reason to hope, and reason to worry, but we have a more flexible situation than we have had for a long, long time. It isn’t stupid to believe it could work out.

    43. Knew Your Nicks

      I see more than 2 teams inside the team:
      “the win now-ers” ‘those who want to get paid right after this season”
      “the rookies”, “the NTCers”, “the Europeans”, “the exBulls”, “the triangle haters”,”the defensive minded”, “the psychos”, “the D-Leaguers” ,”the bearded ones” “those with tattoos”, “the ones with other brothers playing in the league”……..

      All those teams’ common goals ?

      Getting paid & Winning

    44. GoNyGoNyGo

      I expected the Knicks to split with the Hornets and lose to the Thunder. I also having them split with the T-Wolves and defeat the Kings to end up 10-10 at the 20-game mark. My pre-season appraisal will be unchanged, 42-45 wins. If you have to pin an exact number, I’ll say 43.

    45. The Knicks Should Tank

      The Knicks will need to make a trade in season. We probably aren’t good enough to be a top 4 seed no matter how I feel, so it’s either we trade for another piece or we have a fire sale and stockpile draft picks.

    46. Knew Your Nicks

      Which teams became great through tanking ?

      Is it more possible to built a contender through tanking or through slow & carefull roster building/salary cap cleaning ?

    47. MSA

      I don’t think trading for Rose, giving a 4 year deal to Noah and a NTC to Melo can be described as “building a contender through slow & carefull roster building/salary cap cleaning”

    48. Knew Your Nicks

      Would you prefer losing Melo for nothing [like Lebron/KD] ?
      or overpaying for “Mozgovs&Afflalos” ?

    49. Knew Your Nicks

      My question is not a rhetorical one tho.
      I’d really like to know if someone knows:

      Which NBA teams became great through tanking from 1946 till today ?

    50. Knew Your Nicks

      #FUCK TANKING#
      JUST PICK BALLERS

      Charles Oakley-9
      Mark Jackson-18
      Anthony Mason-53
      John Starks – undrafted
      Sprewell-24
      Allan Houston-11

      Karl Malone-13
      Reggie Miller-11
      Dennis Rodman-27
      Shawn Kemp-17
      Kobe-13
      SNash-15
      Ben Wallace-undrafted
      Paul Pierce-10
      Manu Ginobilli-57
      Tony Parker-28
      Marc Gasol-48
      DeAndre Jordan-35
      Kawhi-15
      Paul George-10
      Klay-11
      JButler-30
      IThomas-60
      Draymond Green-35
      Giannis-15
      ……

    51. djphan

      this isn’t a .500 team as it stands…. but there are a few tweaks that might make us playoff viable… starting oquinn and playing him 25mpg and flipping rose and jennings’ minutes will probably add 2-3 wins to the season… as it stands we have to count on rose either improving dramatically or shooting a lot less… it doesn’t look like either is happening…

      also we are depending on midrange shots a lot.. and a game like yesterday makes it crystal clear what happens when we settle for bad shots instead of attacking the basket relentlessly… charlotte does this so well and the reason why they have a better offense than us with vastly inferior personnel…. we are dead last in FTr …

    52. ptmilo

      Is this the first time in NBA history that two different guys attempted at least 11 field goals without scoring? Has to be, right?

    53. d-mar

      Is this the first time in NBA history that two different guys attempted at least 11 field goals without scoring? Has to be, right?

      Yeah, very strange. Although, with JR there’s an easy explanation – Sunday day game.

    54. swiftandabundant

      This isn’t a 500 team except that our record is 500.

      Damn people. We lost a road game to a decent team. We’ve won 6 out of our last 8 games and now we suck cause we sucked in the first quarter last night?

      Would hate to be in a foxhole with most of you.

    55. djphan

      our expected w/l is 6-10 which sounds about right considering we were probably lucky to win the first charlotte game..

    56. DRed

      I think the best way to put it is that we are unlikely to go 4-0 this week, but we’ve got a solid chance to win every individual game.

    57. The Knicks Should Tank

      No back to backs and we’re the better team every time we play this week. We need to put ourselves in position to win the division and make the statement now. 4-0 should be the team’s mentality this week. Beating OKC will be tough because Westbrook, but it’s definitely doable.

      On the other hand, 0-4 and a bunch of losses put us in contention for the other NBA championship; the Lonzo Ball Lottery. Part of me envisions a big 4 of Lonzo Ball, Miles Bridges, Billy Buckets, and KP terrorizing the league for a decade, but we just aren’t bad enough to make that come into fruition.

      I’m gonna be pretty upset this year when we’re a mid 40s win team and lose in the first round of the playoffs. This is the draft to have as many picks as possible.

    58. TheOakmanCometh

      The odds of a trade deadline selloff are virtually nil. Phil went for the win-now approach in the offseason and he’s not about to blow the team up a few months later. So if we tank for a higher draft pick, it’s going to be by accident.

    59. BigBlueAL

      I didn’t realize Knicks fans are so spoiled that making the playoffs while winning in the mid-40’s is not worth rooting for.

    60. KnickfaninNJ

      Don’t put me in that boat. As I’ve said before, even though I didn’t like the Rose trade, I’m very happy to have a watchable, reasonably balanced team. Any year we make the playoffs is a good year in my view, and we clearly have a better chance of that this year than we’ve had in quite a while

    61. Ras1980

      I didn’t realize Knicks fans are so spoiled that making the playoffs while winning in the mid-40’s is not worth rooting for.

      I can’t believe our expectations are so low as to be content in an organization that gears for such an outcome year after year after year…

    62. BigBlueAL

      This is the NBA. Only a few teams per year have a legitimate chance at winning it all and it’s usually the same teams year in and year out until their superstar players leave or retire. The Knicks since Van Gundy left have made the playoffs 4 times in 15 seasons and 3 of those times they had no chance in the 1st rd and promptly got blown out. So only 1 fucking time in the past 15 seasons the Knicks had a team good enough to have expectations of reaching the Conference Finals. Winning 45 games this season would be the 2nd best season this franchise has had since Van Gundy left 15 years ago.

      Listen I grew up with the 1990’s Knicks. They reached the 2nd rd 9 seasons in a row including 4 trips to the Conference Finals and 2 trips to the NBA Finals. But that was basically a lifetime ago, at this point I’ll be happy with making the playoffs and finishing over .500 considering we have KP, a couple of other nice young players and all our 1st rd picks moving forward. Could things be better?? Of course. I’m not happy at all with most of the moves Phil has made. But shit considering what we had to endure during the Isiah years this is heaven.

      I’m a Yankees and Giants fan so I’ve seen 9 championships in my lifetime and almost every year I can expect a quality product from them and if not I know it’s not because of stupid ownership and incompetent management. But yeah sorry my expectations as a Knicks fan is not championship or bust.

    63. JK47

      Look guys, the New York Knicks are never, ever going to do a rebuild. The chance to do a rebuild and sell off assets has long ago passed. We’re playing “win now” ball until Phil Jackson’s tenure is over, and then probably well beyond that. I’ve been rooting for the Knicks since I was a teenager in the 80’s. They haven’t won a chip yet. They came close once, but that is as close as they are going to get until James Dolan goes to the great blues jam in the sky. And even when Dolan croaks, he has kids and I’m going to assume they are just as idiotic.

      So, mid-40’s wins and a first round playoff exit? Sure, why not. By Knick standards that is an incredibly successful season. Forget about championships. Those are not for us. Dream small.

    64. Ras1980

      But yeah sorry my expectations as a Knicks fan is not championship or bust.

      So, mid-40’s wins and a first round playoff exit? Sure, why not. By Knick standards that is an incredibly successful season. Forget about championships. Those are not for us. Dream small.

      It makes me sad to see how damn how we done fell so damn far.

    65. iserp

      I hate this situation so much, because this team seems headed to a 5th or 6th seed and that is terrible considering melo, noah and rose are only getting worse from now on.

      A 5th seed would be nice season! We would see playoff basketball, and means that Porzingis and the young guys are doing good, and that the team is gelling. If everyone is healthy, we would even be able to advance to 2nd round, and have a puncher’s chance at a conference finals. Not the greatest expectations, but something nice to root for.

      On the other hand, finishing 9th would be terrible…

    66. iserp

      Think about it, 8th-4th with some great playoffs series, is what the Memphis Grizzlies have done in the last 6 years. I think I would be happy rooting a team like that (Obviously I would want more, but what can you do with the Warriors and the Cavs?)

    67. Bruno Almeida

      I would be happy being in Toronto’s place, a 2nd seed with a chance to have a very competitive series with the top teams, even though it’s unlikely they’ll ever win a championship.

      and I’m 35 and have watched the entire 90’s Knicks too, and no, I would not be happy with seeing KP’s go through an entire career of 2nd round exits, specially when there’s a real chance this team could be bad for ONE year and get a future star to pair with him.

      of course the draft is not a sure thing and nobody wants to be Philadelphia… i’m not saying tank for 5 years, in saying tank for one, and then build around KP, whatever Melo can offer and the young guys plus a top PG from this draft.

      but I guess different people have different expectations and that’s ok.

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