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Wednesday, May 22, 2019

Knicks Morning News (2016.05.30)

  • [New York Times] Sports of The Times: Once Disgraced, Mike Rice Finds Redemption in Youth Basketball (Mon, 30 May 2016 01:01:17 GMT)
    The former Rutgers coach, who was fired for abusive college practices, is now teaching athletes with dreams of playing at higher levels.

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: With Survival Kit of 3-Pointers, and Team Trust, the Warriors Live On (Mon, 30 May 2016 00:47:50 GMT)
    Golden State’s Klay Thompson fed off his teammates in helping to forge a Game 7 against the Thunder.

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    81 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2016.05.30)

    1. DS

      In anticipation of tonight’s game (and badly wanting OKC to win), I’m trying to think of series in which teams went up 3 games to 1, got pushed to a Game 7 but hung on to win Game 7. I could only think of the 1994 Utah Jazz who, in Round 2, went up 3-0 on the #8 seed Denver Nuggets, lost 3 straight, but then won Game 7.

      As rare as it is to come back from a 3-1 deficit, it seems even rarer to tie a series after being down 3-1 only to lose Game 7.

      UPDATE:
      Nope, apparently I’m wrong. I am just struggling to think of specific examples.
      https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/4lmm1y/game_7_results_after_a_31_deficit_was_overturned/

    2. sugarslim5

      I like D’antoni even more in Houston, because I think it could be the best line-up he’s ever had. This team needs a well coordinated offensive strategy, and he’ll definitely bring that. He’s never failed with a line-up that fit we’ll together. Howard needs points and Mike can get him that. Not the biggest fan, but I like the system itself.
      When Mike was in New York, the team was ruined because of a mental mistake he made after they traded for Melo and Billups. He became obsessed with size. First he decided to make Jared Jeffries his C and put Stat at the 4. Problem was, it didn’t fit in terms of spacing. Situation got worse when they acquired Chandler for Billups. Now you’ve got no spacing and no floor runner. Knicks had to win 4 games off of half court defense to get back into the playoffs after a 2-4 start. But D’antoni and the fans rejected that and the team went back to run n gun. Knicks proceeded to lose until Lin came and the starting line-up got injured. Starting line-up came back, chemistry problems and Mike was done.
      LA on the other hand was a bad choice for Mike and Dwight. A declining basketball team that pretty much fell apart.
      At least Houston has a great scorer that can pass and a defensive big man. Perhaps wing defense is questionable, but we’ll see, won’t we. I think it’ll be interesting to watch, but I’ve never seen D’antoni fail with the right pieces.

    3. Cant Staps Wont Staps

      Howard needs points and Mike can get him that.

      Zero percent chance Howard stays in Houston, so…

    4. alsep73

      Zero percent chance Howard stays in Houston, so…

      Yeah, I half believe Morey chose Pringles as a way to guarantee that Dwight would opt out and get the hell away from Harden.

    5. lavor postell

      Yeah, I half believe Morey chose Pringles as a way to guarantee that Dwight would opt out and get the hell away from Harden.

      Morey didn’t choose to hire Pringles. That was Les Alexander’s call. Morey wanted JVG.

    6. alsep73

      Regardless: somebody in Houston management wants Dwight gone by any means necessary.

    7. iserp

      Regardless: somebody in Houston management wants Dwight gone by any means necessary.

      I thought the same, xD

    8. sugarslim5

      I don’t know, I read something where Howard would pick up his last year on that deal.

      As rare as it is to come back from a 3-1 deficit, it seems even rarer to tie a series after being down 3-1 only to lose Game 7.

      I’ve still got OKC

    9. DRed

      I wonder if the Warriors would consider making a play for Howard. Dwight is an absurd manbaby, and he’s not a long term max guy, but he can still play.

    10. reub

      Conley’s lifetime advanced stats are very similar to Calderon’s. And Howard’s are similar to Ewing’s. How can we go wrong?

      Man, I’m starting to love all of these numbers!

    11. Donnie Walsh

      I’m trying to think of series in which teams went up 3 games to 1, got pushed to a Game 7 but hung on to win Game 7.

      …There was a certain series in 1994 that involved a missed finger-roll by one Patrick Ewing.

    12. ClashFan

      Wow, reub keeps messing with you advanced stat guys and you’re falling for it!

      I wonder what Thanasis’s TS% was for that game in Greece? Reub, do you know? Small sample size, I know, but he could be on the cusp of being a star!

    13. reub

      Clashfan, you’re the only one who truly understands me!

      As far as Thanasis’ TS%, it was to the moon.
      .

    14. ClashFan

      Post #14 gave you away, bruh!

      Thanasis’s WS/48 and PER must have been pretty good, too!

    15. DS

      Man, what an annoying team. It’s like two Reggie Millers — but better — at once.

    16. yellowboy90

      Okay maybe Klay is the microwave 2.0. Is that like a microwave that’s a convection oven?

    17. DS

      Donovan’s gotta figure out a way to prevent these switches that leave Adams on Curry or Thompson.

    18. JK47

      It must be really incredibly trying to beat the Warriors. You can force them into bad shots and they just make them anyway. OKC seems like the better fundamental team but the Warriors just make those crazy jumpers off the dribble and there’s nothing you can do about it.

    19. yellowboy90

      If the Warriors could rebound it might not be close. OKC are just relentless when it comes to getting 2nd opportunities.

    20. reub

      Ok. I’ve figured out our backcourt.

      Fournier (Klay)
      Curry (Seth)

      We’re set to rain threes and win just like the Warriors!

    21. d-mar

      Westbrook 6-19 and he and Durant have basically played the entire game. I’d be shocked if they win.

    22. JK47

      Durant hasn’t been bad in this game. He has a .630 TS% tonight.

      This one’s not on him.

    23. yellowboy90

      Wow, almost every replay of a Warriors drive and score you see a clear missed foul call by the refs. On some occasions its multiple fouls on the same drive and score. lol.

    24. d-mar

      I think Durant signs a 1 year deal and OKC stays intact, but they may never get this close to a finals again

    25. yellowboy90

      will those miss layups come back to haunt GSW? Does Curry has 2 more buckets or dimes in him?

    26. reub

      Sorry. I really don’t think Durant played well at all.

      He’s looking like Melo out there again.

    27. yellowboy90

      somebody check Curry’s driver license. It must say bad mutha(shut you mouth) on it.

    28. JK47

      Sorry. I really don’t think Durant played well at all.

      I know, he really hurt the Thunder by repeatedly throwing the ball into the basket

    29. JK47

      Durant had two desperation heaves he had to take at the end of the game because the Thunder were running out of time. Before those two heaves he had a .720 TS%, 27 points on 17 FGA.

      A “real” star would have had a .900 TS%.

    30. Owen

      Can someone help me out with this roughrider joke?

      Other than the presence of Waiters and Speights on the floor, fantastic game. Amazing work by the rest of the end of bench guys for the Warriors.

    31. reub

      KD was missing in action for most of the game. When the Warriors took over he was not around despite the stats.

    32. yellowboy90

      Draymond should not be talking.

      Also, what will it look like when Love is caught in switches when GSW run the PnR? yikes

    33. d-mar

      The Thunder beat the 2nd best team in the NBA in 6 games and took a 73 win team to 7 games, but no moral victories when the contracts of your 2 best players are up in the next two years.

    34. bobneptune

      somebody check Curry’s driver license. It must say bad mutha(shut you mouth) on it.

      “He’s a complicated man….” :-)

    35. ptmilo

      what a run for okc, winning 7 on two teams who won 140 games this year. The one thing they couldn’t fade is probably the greatest offensive weapon in NBA history — the Anderson Varejao crossover dribble

    36. DRed

      SAS is fond of referring to guys he thinks of as tough, clutch players as rough riders. QUITE FRANKLY IF THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS THINK THEY CAN PLAY KEVIN LOVE AGAINST THE ROUGH RIDERS ON THE WARRIORS-THATS PREPOSTEROUS TO ME.

    37. d-mar

      Kevin Love just smashed himself on the knee with a hammer, looks like he’ll be out for the series

    38. yellowboy90

      Anyone else looking forward to he Klav vs JR matchup? JR is shooting the ball insanely good so far in the playoffs.

    39. dtrickey

      Anyone else looking forward to he Klav vs JR matchup? JR is shooting the ball insanely good so far in the playoffs.

      No doubt, but the Cavs biggest X-factor in my mind is what kind of D JR is going to play. His stroke is pretty key and has been money in the playoffs, but it will interesting to see how much he has improved on the defensive end lining up on one of the top tier 2’s in the league. Here’s hoping for another game 7 to round out the year.

    40. Donnie Walsh

      What a fun series. Sorry to see it end, but I do love this Warriors team. Pretty remarkable that people on the radio were counting them out after game 4

      almost every replay of a Warriors drive and score you see a clear missed foul call by the refs. On some occasions its multiple fouls on the same drive and score.

      Unfortunately, the fatal flaw of basketball as a sport is that the refs have subjective control over every possession because a foul can be called on every single set.

    41. Brian Cronin

      The Thunder beat the 2nd best team in the NBA in 6 games and took a 73 win team to 7 games, but no moral victories when the contracts of your 2 best players are up in the next two years.

      Generally, I agree with you. However, their showing this year would certainly seem to suggest to Durant that he could win a title in OKC, right?

    42. Mr. Cock Jowles, If You Please

      Durant needs to literally eat Roberson and Waiters so they can’t tank his championship hopes next year

    43. Brian Cronin

      What’s crazy is that the Thunder don’t even have any cap room to play with to go out and sign a guard to replace Waiters and Roberson. They just have to hope that they can get someone okay with the mini-mid-level (which is sort of what they’ve been hoping for years now).

    44. iserp

      Generally, I agree with you. However, their showing this year would certainly seem to suggest to Durant that he could win a title in OKC, right?

      It’s true. But Durant has to think that the east road to a title is much easier.

      Lets think: Sign Durant, trade for CP3, wake up, … xD

    45. bobneptune

      Durant needs to literally eat Roberson and Waiters so they can’t tank his championship hopes next year

      Durant needs to play up to his talents in a big closeout game when he has a chance at home to dethrone the champs. Trying to prove he is the BMOC by chucking up a thousand bad shots early and late to shine the spotlight on him was their demise, not Waiters and the complimentary guys no mater what your stats say. No one should have to depend on complimentary guys to play big in a game 7 on the road.

      Durant lumped it by trying to show he was the man instead of playing within the team concept, plain and simple. He did everything we scream at Melo for.

      Also , the coach could have played the turk a little more in .

    46. Nick C.

      No one should have to depend on complimentary guys to play big in a game 7 on the road.

      Durant lumped it by trying to show he was the man instead of playing within the team concept, plain and simple.

      Bob aren’t you contradicting yourself here, or setting up the mindset for heroball?

    47. ptmilo

      Durant lumped it by trying to show he was the man instead of playing within the team concept, plain and simple. He did everything we scream at Melo for.

      Also , the coach could have played the turk a little more in .

      Yeah sure, never mind the complementary guys going 0-9 on almost exclusively wide open catch and shoot threes and 4-20 overall, or Steph Curry being unstoppable, the problem last night was Kevin Durant and not enough Enes effing Kanter.

    48. er

      Huh? Who is bashing KD and why? Russ sucked. KD was bad at home for some reason. It’s gonna be a long off season for the thunder

    49. lavor postell

      Durant needed to take more shots last night, but Westbrook was shit yesterday. I’m sure he had a lot of assists and rebounds but his decision making and shit selection particularly at the end of the first and second quarters was terrible.

    50. Donnie Walsh

      I’m sure he had a lot of assists and rebounds but his decision making and shit selection particularly at the end of the first and second quarters was terrible.

      His shit selection was the key.

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