Knicks Morning News (2014.12.30)

  • [New York Daily News] Isola: Carmelo Anthony’s knee issue looms as ’15 nears (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 05:02:47 GMT)

    Carmelo Anthony’s status for the Knicks’ final game of 2014 is unknown.

  • [New York Daily News] Mike Woodson won’t knock struggling Knicks or Phil Jackson (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:32:20 GMT)

    The Knicks have lost as many games this season under Derek Fisher as they did during the entire 2012-13 campaign under , Mike Woodson.

  • [New York Times] Clippers Beat Jazz for 12th Straight Time, 101-97 (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 06:25:01 GMT)

    Blake Griffin scored 24 points and the Los Angeles Clippers beat Utah 101-97 Monday night for their 12th straight victory over the Jazz, breaking the franchise record for consecutive losses against one club.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Plumlee’s 22 Points Help Nets Top Kings (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:43:38 GMT)

    Wesley Matthews made six 3-pointers and had 28 points to lead Portaldn to a 101-79 victory.

  • [New York Times] Beal, Pierce Help Wizards Hold Off Rockets 104-103 (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 04:33:57 GMT)

    Bradley Beal scored 33 points and Paul Pierce added 21, and the Washington Wizards survived a furious fourth-quarter charge by the Rockets for a 104-103 victory Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Plumlee Leads Nets Over Kings 107-99 (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 03:25:08 GMT)

    Mason Plumlee continued his impressive play with a team-high 22 points, Joe Johnson and Jarret Jack each scored 16, and the Brooklyn Nets held on to beat the Sacramento Kings 107-99 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Magic Hold Off Heat at End, 102-101 (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 03:15:59 GMT)

    Nikola Vucevic scored 26 points, Victor Oladipo scored seven of his 22 in the final minutes and the Orlando Magic beat the Miami Heat 102-101 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Knight Helps Lead Bucks Over Hornets 104-94 in OT (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 03:09:59 GMT)

    Brandon Knight scored 18 points, including a layup to force overtime, and the Milwaukee Bucks pulled away to beat the Charlotte Hornets 104-94 on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Butler Lead Bulls Over Pacers 92-90 (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:54:56 GMT)

    Jimmy Butler had 27 points and nine rebounds to lead the Chicago Bulls to a 92-90 victory over the Indiana Pacers on Monday night.

  • [New York Times] Sports of The Times: N.B.A. Rookies Carefully Choose Stockings to Fill (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:24:56 GMT)

    Around the holidays, young players who have recently earned their first big paychecks face pressure to buy gifts for family members, friends and hangers-on.

  • [New York Times] Sports of The Times: Jackson Asks Knicks Fans to Take a Sky-High Leap of Faith (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:52:03 GMT)

    Phil Jackson, the Knicks’ president, has asked fans to be patient, but the Knicks lack the kind of breakout players Jackson worked with in winning championships as a coach.

  • [New York Post] Carmelo feels ‘weakness’ and Fisher open to shutting him down (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 01:34:19 -0500)

    LOS ANGELES — Derek Fisher hinted he'd be OK if Carmelo Anthony decides to shut it down for a stretch to rest his injured left knee. The Knicks coach yanked…

  • [New York Post] Jovial, chipper Mike Woodson finally weighs in on Derek Fisher (Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:00:59 -0500)

    LOS ANGELES — Dressed in a dark blue Clippers warm-up suit, Mike Woodson smiled more in a 15-minute chat with a handful of New York writers than Derek Fisher has…

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    29 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2014.12.30)”

    1. Re: Aldrich — I was aware that Cole has never gotten regular playing time but I never realized just how little he has actually played. Prior to the last week, in six years in the NBA, he played more than 20 minutes in a game seven times and he played more than 26 minutes just once (and that was the last game of last season). It’s no wonder he was dragging in the fourth quarter the other night. I don’t know which is more amazing — that he has not played more than that, or that a guy who plays so little has managed to stay in the league for six years.

    2. This quote which was in similar terms repeated in the post game comments by Fisher is unsettling: “Carmelo is Carmelo,’’ Fisher said. “We don’t necessarily make decisions for him. He’s part of the conversation. We have our opinions and have expressed them. We all talked about different things. It’s really a decision he has to make on what’s best for him and his career.”

      It sounds like they cater to him if not flat out defer to him. If this approach was also used with JR, Shump, Amare, Bargs and Calderon maybe it would sit better. I wonder if this mentality extends beyond just the knee.

    3. Hi, First time long time as they used to say on Mike and the Mad Dog.

      In more than 40 years of watching Knick basketball it has come to this. This is the worst team ever. Can you believe it? I’m scratching my head. I mean, Stephon Marbury’s Knicks would have killed this team. I’ve never seen so many lazy close outs in my life. I’ve never seen so many uncontested layups. Hubie Brown’s Knicks, before they replaced Ed Sherrod with Rory Sparrow, would have gotten thirty plus in the first quarter. This is the nadir.

      I think the only positives right now are the relative dearth of long term deals, the first round pick we weren’t allowed to trade, and Carmelo either as a piece going forward or as a trade chip. As soul crushing as it is to watch such putrid basketball, going forward I actually hope we set the record for worst ever and get Okafor. But next year that won’t cut it (We don’t have the pick anyway. At least not yet, Cmon’ Phil!). I don’t even care if we’re good next year, I just want the team to play like they mean it.

      On Carmelo: It’s not so easy to just shut a player down. I mean, Derek Rose and even Lin got ripped for not playing in the playoffs. If you want your guy to gut it out when it means something you shouldn’t expect him to just throw in the towel when it doesn’t.

      That’s my 2 cents, thanks!

    4. I agree that it’s easy to imagine a more efficient, better schemed Cavs offense, but the bulk of the story is really that this is a bottom third or worse defensive team, and genuinely bad defensive teams are rarely great. It’s not clear that the Cavs have ANY good defenders right now. Current Lebron takes a crazy number of defensive possessions off, though he can still defend when he tries. Irving and Waiters are terrible, Knick-level, defenders. Love is a bad defender. Tristan Thompson is an overrated defender who is often out of position and is slow to recognize rotations. Marion still looks okay to me but he is 36. Mike Miller could hold Travis Wear to 12 points on 10 shots and that’s it. This team is like watching a great quarterback stand behind a horrible offensive line. The offense could easily improve for here from 4th to 1st or 2nd, but without better defenders they still seem second tier.

    5. On Carmelo: It’s not so easy to just shut a player down. I mean, Derek Rose and even Lin got ripped for not playing in the playoffs. If you want your guy to gut it out when it means something you shouldn’t expect him to just throw in the towel when it doesn’t.

      Fair enough. It just came off as a highly deferential way to put it and was a rehash of what raised my eyebrow when I heard it before.

    6. It’s way too early to start drawing any conclusions about the Cavaliers. It took the Heat about 20-25 games to get rolling and they were way more experienced players than some of the Cavs.

      Just to continue on yesterday’s Cavs conversation a little bit I want to point out that this is a pretty significant false equivalency. Yes, both teams “struggled”, to a certain extent, but that doesn’t mean the struggles were really on the same level. One of the CBS basketball guys tweeted yesterday that Heat team was 21-9 after 30 games, which is only a few games better than the Cavs, but they had a net differential of +11.4, best in the league. By comparison the Cavs are at +2.9, which is 12th in the league.

      That Heat team wasn’t the juggernaut they turned into yet, and they were having some issues – particularly with their late game offense, since they hadn’t yet embraced small ball (don’t forget that Joel Anthony started on that team). Consequently they were struggling in close games. But that team was already clearly very good despite its flaws, and their struggles were really only relative to the expectations which were sky high, way beyond this years Cavs.

      In comparison, the Cavs actually are struggling in an absolute sense, not just relative to high expectations. I mean 12th in the league in point differential makes them a slightly above average team (they’ll surely be passed by OKC shortly barring any more injury issues). That Heat team just needed a little bit more luck, and some systemic tweaks. This Cavs team really might fundamentally not be that good. I think it’s a pretty different kettle of fish.

    7. @ptmilo I agree about the Cavs defense, but a minor quibble is that I think Irving has been quite good on defense this year. Reputation has a tendency to lag behind actual play and Irving certainly earned his bad reputation on that end in years past, but I’ve been watching a lot of the Cavs this year (for obhvious reasons, it’s a pretty fascinating situation), and I think he has taken pretty massive strides on that end. He’s one of the only guys for them that seems to compete consistently on that end. I still hear people frequently rip into his defense on this board and elsewhere so maybe it’s just me, but something to watch out for next time you watch them play.

    8. @7, I think it’s totally fair to say that Kyrie’s defense has shown legitimate improvement this year. But here’s the thing. My take on this year is that Kyrie has still been a legit minus defender (from the worst in the league besides Nash) and that his improvement has been in streaks, and that this is not the first time he has had ephemeral streaks of better defense. When Kyrie was a second year player, he had two separate runs where he seemed to figure out how to defend the pick and roll okay and limit the really dumb risks he likes to take, but they both faded into oblivion. This year, at least to my eye, has been similarly all over the place. Okay for a week, bad for a week. Maybe this is the road to improvement, but I would take the under on that. Do I think Kyrie is a bottom third defensive point guard even this year? Yeah, I do. If I could have a typical slightly below average defender like Jeff Teague or Kyrie this year, I take Teague in a second (on D).

    9. LeBron is having the worst season of his career, and honestly looks kind of disinterested at times. His rebounding has been pedestrian, he has the highest turnover rate of his career and his FG% from 0-3 feet is down over 100 points. His WS48 is .184, which is exactly what Melo’s WS48 was in his peak season here in 2012-2013.

      This sudden dropoff in production, combined with LeBron’s suddenly less muscular body, is quite eyebrow raising as far as I’m concerned.

    10. Anything that keeps the Knicks moving in the right direction… down to the #1 overall pick in next year’s draft!

    11. You can just about bet the cavs will have a new coach in the next month or at the latest next season. The Knicks need to make some small trades and try to gain some assets. I’m hoping we ship out Calderone and JR for any sort of future picks/younger talent. Melo is not going anywhere. He wants to build his “brand” and he thinks NYC is the best place to do it. I doubt he even cares about the Championship other than it increases his brand as the homecoming savior which is why he wants it to be NY. Maybe that’s why Phil likes him, he’s a shrewd business man. I don’t really think he’s the problem anyway, our team overall is garbage and until we fix that Melo keeps Jimmy happy and hopefully gives Phil space to show us his master plan.

    12. Re: Aldrich — I was aware that Cole has never gotten regular playing time but I never realized just how little he has actually played. Prior to the last week, in six years in the NBA, he played more than 20 minutes in a game seven times and he played more than 26 minutes just once (and that was the last game of last season). It’s no wonder he was dragging in the fourth quarter the other night. I don’t know which is more amazing — that he has not played more than that, or that a guy who plays so little has managed to stay in the league for six years.

      It’s really weird, right? Dude was a lottery pick!

    13. It’s really weird, right? Dude was a lottery pick!

      At least with Nick Fazekas, there was never a time when NBA scouts thought he was an NBA-level talent. How you could pick a guy in the lottery and then never play him — you just don’t see that in this league.

    14. And Cole is good!

      At least we’ll get to see what an offense with Ja Smith and Bargnani can do. This could be special

    15. Yeah, exactly! I completely understand when guys go to small schools or fall through the scouting cracks. But Aldrich was a star at Kansas! Dude won a national title!

    16. I have never seen a defender going for the rebound to knock in the winning basket before the buzzer until tonight.

      Let the new year come soon because this fan season has been awful

    17. 17 points, 22 rebounds and 11 missed FTs for Drummond tonight. Cutting Smith has really taken the pistons out of the tankapalooza zone

    18. Oye, Bargs™ and Jason Smith together on the floor is just going to be unbearable. We’ll get outrebounded by 15 every night from here on in.

    19. 17 points, 22 rebounds and 11 missed FTs for Drummond tonight. Cutting Smith has really taken the pistons out of the tankapalooza zone

      Yeah, things are looking really, really good for the Knicks’ draft chances, honestly.

    20. Yep. #1-14 is lottery.

      Depends on how you look at it. I’ve definitely heard/read people that say picks 1-3 are the lottery picks because all the other picks are based on record.

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