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Wednesday, September 24, 2014

Knicks Morning News (2014.08.19)

  • [New York Times] With Sterling Saga Over, Ballmer Gets Ovation From Clipper Nation (Tue, 19 Aug 2014 04:50:45 GMT)
    With his trademark top-of-the-lungs, high-fiving, rambunctious enthusiasm, former Microsoft Corp chief executive Steve Ballmer introduced himself to Los Angeles Clippers fans on Monday, promising a new era for the NBA team after former owner Donald Sterling was banned for life over racist remarks.

  • [New York Times] National Basketball Association Roundup (Tue, 19 Aug 2014 03:47:47 GMT)
    The New York Knicks will add Jim Cleamons to new coach Derek Fisher’s staff, the Los Angeles Times reported Monday.

  • [New York Times] With Sterling Saga Over, Ballmer Gets Ovation From Clipper Nation (Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:14:49 GMT)
    With his trademark top-of-the-lungs, high-fiving, rambunctious enthusiasm, former Microsoft Corp chief executive Steve Ballmer introduced himself to Los Angeles Clippers fans on Monday, promising a new era for the NBA team after former owner Donald Sterling was banned for life over racist remarks.

  • [New York Newsday] Jim Boeheim respects Carmelo Anthony's loyalty to Knicks (Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:07:54 EDT)
    Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim thinks Carmelo Anthony should have signed with the Bulls and believes that Phil Jackson's presence and vision helped keep him in a Knicks uniform.

  • [New York Post] Phil, Derek Fisher hire old pal to complete coaching staff (Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:08:13 -0400)
    Derek Fisher has filled the final spot on his coaching staff, agreeing to terms with Phil Jackson's former assistant, veteran Jim Cleamons, a league source confirmed. Cleamons won nine titles…

  • 32 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2014.08.19)

    1. johnlocke

      Melo… “knicks will absolutely make the playoffs”. Anyone here, predicting Knicks won’t be a playoff team this season? I have them at #6

    2. thenamestsam

      I still think even with George’s injury we’re right on the fringe. The Cavs, Bulls, Toronto and Wizards all look like locks to me. I’d favor all of the Heat, Hawks and Hornets over us as well, albeit somewhat marginally. Then I guess the next group of teams we’d be competing with would be the Nets, maybe Detroit if SVG can work some magic, ditto for Vogel and Indy. I think we’ll squeeze in the back end of the playoffs, but I certainly wouldn’t throw around the word “absolutely” anywhere near it (not that I’m blaming Melo for saying it).

    3. GoNyGoNYGo

      I think it’s:

      Cavs
      Wizards
      Knicks
      Bulls
      Heat
      Hawks
      Hornets
      Raptors or Nets

      Boston and Philly are nowhere. The Bucks will be better this year but that just moves them from being dreadful to lousy. Orlando will be pathetic.

      Yes, I’m delusional but I don’t see another Atlantic conference team having a better record than the Knicks. I think the Raptors and Nets will battle for the 8-seed. The Bulls will have a better record than the Knicks but they get to face the now mighty Cavs. I really think the battle for the South-East will be terrific. The top 4 teams will make it and they won’t be separated by much. Injuries will have a lot to do with who wins that conference.

    4. JD & the J.R. Smith 4 AM Cleveland, OH Nudie Bar Jello Shot

      The Knicks? A 3-seed?

      Man, I hope for your sake that Aldrich gets 2500 minutes.

    5. DRed

      We were good enough to make the playoffs last year, so yeah, we could make the playoffs this year. But it’s certainly not a sure thing.

    6. sugarslim5

      I think the 5 best teams in the east are Cavs, Knicks, Bulls, Nets, Heat. Just my opinion. Washington doesn’t even register.

    7. thenamestsam

      Wizards won seven more games than us last year, upgraded their bench, arguably improved from Ariza to Pierce, and have young guys with potential to get much better in Wall and Beal. It’s not impossible that we’ll be better than them, but it seems like a bit of a leap.

    8. Brian Cronin

      Yeah, the #3 and #5 seeds from last season, who both either stayed the same or improved, “don’t even register”? But the #6 seed, who got demonstrably worse, and the #9 team do? Fuck the heck?

    9. JK47

      I’m pretty skeptical; I’m thinking this team struggles to make the playoffs. If they manage 50 wins and a high playoff seed you really have to tip your hat to Jackson and Fisher. They look like a .500 team to me.

    10. Brian Cronin

      I’m embarrassed that I completely missed that the Knicks filled out their coaching staff. Brian Keefe, Josh Longstaff and Rasheed Hazzard. I now have three names to research! :)

    11. sugarslim5

      Can’t say I’ll be right by any means, just going by the talent. Knicks finished 16-5 at the end the season, last time they did that they won 54 games the next year and they weren’t even 100 percent.
      Not sure what’s great about the Wizards.

    12. iserp

      I attribute most of our woes last year to our lack of good players at the PG spot. So even if we miss Chandler, i think that gets us at 45 wins or so. Health will be a big consideration. If Stoudemire has a healthy season, i would say we can get to 50 wins, but i am not objective with the Knicks.

    13. dtrickey

      I have the Knicks fighting for anywhere between 5-8, with them realistically getting somewhere around 6th or 7th seed. The East has improved as far as playoff contenders, but I think with that improvement it also make things a bit tighter, i.e. a .500 record will get you in at 7 or 8. Cavs, Bulls, Wizards and Raps are top four in my opinion. Washington look real nice this year, especially after adding Pierce, who despite being well into his twilight was a great signing. I see the Knicks fighting it out for a bottom half of the top 8 with the Heat, Hornets, Pacers, Hawks, Nets and Pistons.

      For New York to even think about playoffs they need to really look after home court advantage and at least go above .500 at MSG. They also need to take care of business against the lottery teams. That’s what has always killed us in the past. To be honest, I wouldn’t be too upset if we hung around .500 for the year. If we can avoid having stretches of huge losing streaks that would make me even happier!

    14. maxwell_3g

      In response to these predictions, and as a Knicks fan living in the ATL, allow me to make a case for the hawks (aka the most overlooked nba team entering this season)
      1). Good coaching with a good system (budge holder and the spurs approach that demands ball movement and good shooting)
      2). Good gm (although this may hurt this year as big picture moves could affect short term success)
      3). Horford coming back- yes he has stayed injured but there is no evidence that torn pecs are likely to reoccur-they have happened once on each side
      4). Millsap coming back on a great contract in a payday year
      5). Knickerblogger darling Kyle kore rand his offensive gravitational pull ways
      6). Competent pg play with Teague and a high ceiling guy in Schroeder
      7). Stretch 4 draft darling Payne who should be able to contribute immediately

      I’m thinking
      1). Bulls
      2) cavs
      3) hawks
      4). Raptors
      5) wiz
      6). Knicks
      7). Bobcats
      8) heat

    15. DRed

      i would say we can get to 50 wins

      If we get to 50 wins I will vote for Phil Jackson for president in 2016.

    16. thenamestsam

      Hawks are definitely good. Only reason I didn’t include them in the “locks” is because I’m slightly dubious about Horford’s health. But yeah, if he can relatively healthy I think they’re a lock and significantly better than the Knicks.

    17. Brian Cronin

      I have the Knicks fighting for anywhere between 5-8, with them realistically getting somewhere around 6th or 7th seed. The East has improved as far as playoff contenders, but I think with that improvement it also make things a bit tighter, i.e. a .500 record will get you in at 7 or 8.

      A well under .500 Hawks team made the playoffs just last year and the Knicks still didn’t make the playoffs. Could the Knicks make the playoffs? Of course they could, I could easily see them improving on last year enough to make the playoffs. I could also easily see them improving on last year and not making the playoffs.

    18. DRed

      Other headlines on ESPN:

      Survey: Majority think Manziel will succeed

      Sando: To succeed, Manziel must fail first

    19. Brian Cronin

      That’s such a weird question in general. Also, how are the Pistons not higher on that list? They already hate each other and they’re apparently all going to be stuck together again. Or what about the Suns? Their second-most famous player is going to be playing pissed off the whole season.

    20. Brian Cronin

      The Manziel thing is funny because obviously the public as a whole DOES care about him, which is why ESPN keeps writing about him and talking about him. But I really don’t know for sure – did they create the interest themselves or what?

    21. dtrickey

      In response to these predictions, and as a Knicks fan living in the ATL, allow me to make a case for the hawks (aka the most overlooked nba team entering this season)

      Considering what ATL have going for them, it’s probably not too controversial to think they will do well and push for home court advantage come the point end of the season. However, (and this might be stating the obvious) I think most feel Atlanta are too much on the tipping point of being really good and being only average. I don’t think it will take much to go wrong for ATL for them to under perform (e.g. an injury to a key front court guy) hence why they get underrated a little. Definitely could rattle some cages in the East though.

      espn’s Forecast Team ranks us #5 team turmoil!

      World Wide Leader in Trolling

      Lol. The Knicks appear on that list every year! Not really sure how bringing in two guys to change the game plan and change the culture of the franchise, plus adding some youth to develop means you’re in turmoil. I would hate to think what they have in mind for the Lakers, seeing as they were #1 ha ha

    22. DRed

      Yeah, I mean, I can easily imagine scenarios where the Knicks are bad this year, but I don’t get where the turmoil is supposed to be coming from, unless Prigs finally realizes he’s too old for this shit.

    23. GoNyGoNYGo

      The Knicks? A 3-seed?

      If they win the Atlantic, which I think they can. They are better than the Nets. The 76′ers and Celtics are are not good. That leaves Toronto. I think the Knicks are better than them.

      If you asked me for a W-L record, I see the Knicks as a 45-49 win team and Toronto as a 43-47 win team. The head-to-head between the two teams will be huge. The Bulls might win 50-53 games and still be a 4-seed behind the winner of the weak Atlantic.

    24. lavor postell

      If Rose is healthy the Bulls are definitely winning more than 53 games. They nearly won 50 last year with a roster that was inferior at every position and in terms of depth. Even without Rose this year they may be a 53 win team.

      The Raptors won 48 games last year after a horrific start and you’d expect Valanciunas and Ross to continue their upward progression as they enter their age 22 and 23 seasons respectively. If the Raptors didn’t play in Toronto I doubt I’d see a lot of people questioning how good they’ll be next season.

      I think the Knicks will make the playoffs too, but I project them as a 42-45 win team and they’d need the Raptors to regress and suffer some injuries to make a legitimate push for the division. That or unexpected breakout years from some combination of Shumpert, THJ, Larkin, Early and Aldrich (who I expect to be the bargain of the summer after this season).

    25. Brian Cronin

      I’ll just leave this here

      During a promotional event, James Harden declared himself the best all-around player in the NBA.

      “I’m the best all-around basketball player in the NBA,” said Harden.

      http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234668/Harden-Im-The-Best-All-Around-Player-In-The-NBA

      James Harden is a great basketball player but he makes Melo look like Michael Jordan when it comes to how he handles PR. Such a nitwit. He and Howard apparently don’t even eat with their teammates at lunch time! Say whaaaaaaa?

    26. Brian Cronin

      If you asked me for a W-L record, I see the Knicks as a 45-49 win team and Toronto as a 43-47 win team. The head-to-head between the two teams will be huge. The Bulls might win 50-53 games and still be a 4-seed behind the winner of the weak Atlantic.

      Division winners are only guaranteed a top four seed not a top three seed. They’re not even guaranteed home court in the first round if the #5 seed has a better record than them.

    27. Jack Bauer

      I’d say they should finish about .500 +/- a few games and squeak into the 7th or 8th seed in the playoffs. Anything much better than that would be a very pleasant surprise that I wouldn’t count on at this point.
      Cav’s and Bulls are clearly better and Raps & Wiz are younger and more athletic. Hawks, Bobcats , Heat, and Knicks are in the mix for the last 4 spots. Pacers will likely take a big fall, which I am completely ok with.

    28. GoNyGoNYGo

      @27 – Rose is already hurting. I can’t see him hold up for a full season.
      @29 – I did not know that rule. Is it new? If so, the Knicks would be 4th but I think they are going to be much improved.

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