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Tuesday, October 21, 2014

Knicks Morning News (2014.06.13)

  • [New York Daily News] Carmelo still plans to opt out, Heat eyeing Knicks All-Star (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:12:58 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony hasn’t wavered from his year-long intent to become a free agent on July 1st despite Phil Jackson’s hopes to keep Anthony under contract through the 2014-15 season.

  • [New York Daily News] Lawrence: Carmelo talk not so hot for LeBron and Miami (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 05:31:02 GMT)
    Well, how do you like how Carmelo Anthony has finally made the NBA Finals? Of course he’s not really here, as everyone knows, because the Knicks are not anywhere close to the Finals. They haven’t played this deep into June since 1999.

  • [New York Daily News] Raissman: To MSG crew, Knicks coach Fisher talks great game (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:18:22 GMT)
    Following his first appearance as Knicks coach, the microscopic analysis covered a lot of psychological ground. It failed to answer an important question: Was this Derek Fisher’s coming out party or an audition for a broadcasting gig?

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Coach Leaving Israel to Seek N.B.A. Job (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 05:25:42 GMT)
    David Blatt stepped down as coach of Maccabi Tel Aviv, the European club champion, saying he wanted to pursue his dream of coaching in the N.B.A.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Dominate Heat Again, Move One Win From NBA Title (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 05:00:24 GMT)
    The visiting San Antonio Spurs dominated the Miami Heat again, crushing the two-time defending champions 107-86 in Game Four of the NBA Finals on Thursday to move within one victory of clinching the championship.

  • [New York Times] Spurs 107, Heat 86: Heat’s Crash Course Can’t Prevent Another Wreck Against the Spurs (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 04:16:36 GMT)
    The Heat put in plenty of study time after their debacle in Game 3, but it didn’t do any good as the Spurs took a 3-1 series lead and moved to the cusp of a championship.

  • [New York Times] On Pro Basketball: For Some N.B.A. Role Players, an Unlikely Shot at a Ring (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 03:58:09 GMT)
    Reigning superstars claim much of the attention at the N.B.A. finals, but also fascinating are the veteran role players with an opportunity to win the prize that eluded some of the very best.

  • [New York Times] A Long, Painful Night for LeBron and Heat (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 03:54:30 GMT)
    LeBron James had a pained expression on his face during warmups and left the court twice in the early going, once to get his ankle re-taped and another time for a bathroom break.

  • [New York Post] LeBron mum on Carmelo-to-Heat talk (Fri, 13 Jun 2014 02:08:35 -0400)
    MIAMI — The Heat's LeBron James swears he turns off his phone and avoids outside world contact as much as possible during the postseason. So when he was asked about…

  • 36 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2014.06.13)

    1. thenamestsam

      This series has made me appreciate so much what the Spurs have been able to do for however many years it is now. Not only because they’re a destructive basketball force, but because watching Miami right now really makes you appreciate how hard it is to maintain success over a long period. Obviously having Lebron/Duncan gets you a lot of the way, but to be a truly great, championship team you need to have the role players too, and Miami’s struggles right now really illustrate how hard it is to keep rejuvenating that stock of role players. The Heat missed on Oden and Beasley in the offseason. Battier got old, Chalmers fell off a little and before you know it you’re playing Toney Douglas in the 2nd quarter of a must win finals game. To keep replacing those parts and stay a great team for 15+ years is simply amazing.

    2. Farfa

      To keep replacing those parts and stay a great team for 15+ years is simply amazing.

      Not to mention picking a guy at 15th overall who, with two more wins (one last year, one this year – I hope I’m not jinxing anything), would have two Finals MVPs under his arm. And another one at 28th who already has one.

    3. johnlocke

      What was amazing watching the game is how few bad shots the Spurs take. Could count on one hand, mid-range jumpers and no hands contested mid range jumpers with the shot clock not running down. Everything was ball movement to create open threes, dives to the basket or post-ups. Combine that with solid defense and you have a winning formula + talent of course, but they’re more talented teams that rely on too much individual play (Clippers, OKC). Nice to be applauding passing versus hero-ball

    4. lavor postell

      I think the most impressive thing to me was that after every timeout the Spurs took they scored coming out of it with great execution generating either a great look at the rim or for three.

    5. DRed

      Miami looked old and tired and out of ideas last night. Their defense has really fallen apart, Wade looked like an old man on offense, and Bosh looks like a guy who should be thinking about the mid-level exemption, not a max extension. Seriously, who is going to give this guy 20 million a season? I keep hearing Dallas, but I don’t understand why

      Great to see Toney in the finals, though. Keep doing what you do.

    6. DRed

      I love Kawhi, but good lord is he a boring interview. Clyde should run a camp like Hakeem does, only for style.

    7. hoolahoop

      Let’s be clear, Lebron is a share-the-ball, team player, and he’s the best in the NBA. The last thing he’d want, is to play with a high usage, sticky finger guy that never saw a shot he didn’t like, that sometimes plays defense.

    8. johnlocke

      @Dred that’s what makes him such a good fit with the Spurs, but yeh he’s even worse than Duncan. P.S. Miami is still a damn good team and clearly by far the best in the East, so let’s not be so quick to poop on them, but the Spurs are just better.

    9. Farfa

      If I were Phoenix I would offer Bosh a 40mln/2yrs contract. He can be very, very valuable. It’s just that in Miami he has to be just a jump shooter to let LeBron operate at his best.

    10. hoolahoop

      ……… Obviously having Lebron/Duncan gets you a lot of the way, but to be a truly great, championship team you need to have the role players too, and Miami’s struggles right now really illustrate how hard it is to keep rejuvenating that stock of role players. ………..

      I agree to an extent, but it’s something bigger. The knicks play stupid basketball. San Antonio’s method is simple genius – the antithesis of how the knicks played last year. SA’s ball movement, trust in each other, tough defensive effort for all 48, and players that accept their roles is the secret sauce. The system is high IQ.
      That’s the infuriating part of keeping Woodson all season. Finally, hopefully, we’re heading down a new path.

    11. Farfa

      Anyway the Finals aren’t over. Let’s wait just a little bit more to celebrate the Spurs and mock the Heat (God knows how I want to).

    12. DRed

      SA’s ball movement, trust in each other, tough defensive effort for all 48, and players that accept their roles is the secret sauce. The system is high IQ.

      This is definitely partly true, but they also have much better basketball players than the Knicks do. How many Knicks even make the Spurs roster?

    13. johnlocke

      @Dred…offensively the Spurs take better shots and are much more efficient compared to us. We had 2 starters (Felton and Shump) shoot below 40% this season. There was NOONE on the Spurs roster that shot below 40% this season. The lowest shooting percentage of their top 9 minutes players was Manu shooting 43%.

    14. ess-dog

      Dear God, I want Jackson to blow this team up. How about we sign and trade Melo for Lin/Asik/T.Jones and a 1st and trade Tyson back to the Mavs for Carter/Marion/Blair and a 1st. Then we can just run Lin/Shump/Carter/Blair or Amare/Asik. Then just cut JR/Bargs. It’s so easy, just do it, Phil.

    15. Farfa

      No way the Mavs give us Marion/Carter/Blair and a 1st for Tyson (when we are the ones who’re actively shopping him).

    16. Cock Jowles Has Predicted the Last Three Knicks Seasons

      The Spurs are not just coached well. It’s a chicken-and-egg problem, here.

      They have great players. They have a great system. The players make the system look good and the system makes the players look good. If they didn’t require great players, why pay anyone more than $10M a year?

      As you can see, Boris Diaw is a good basketball player in the Spurs system, but it’s not the system alone that enables him to make great passes and hustle for boards.

    17. ess-dog

      You’re right, maybe we throw in Hardaway and forget the 1st… just wash away this mess. Start fresh.

    18. GoNyGoNYGo

      You’re right, maybe we throw in Hardaway and forget the 1st… just wash away this mess. Start fresh.

      If we blow up the team all that I want is the 1st round picks and I don’t trade the kids.

    19. Farfa

      Chandler for Crowder, Mekel and Marion. Deal for me.

      Can’t we also pry Datome away from Detroit before the Spurs take him? You’d be amazed by how competent he can be as a scrappy shooter/rebounder off the bench.

    20. DRed

      Looks like Melo isn’t opting in. Should be interesting to see what sorts of offers he gets

    21. er

      Any team who has the cap room would throw the max his way. Teams who need to make trades will do so to clear some room. i dont think its that interesting at all actually save for Miami

    22. DRed

      Well, I don’t think Melo is worth max money, so I’m interested in seeing if any GMs share my opinion

    23. JK47

      Melo not opting in should really mean Melo walking and the Knicks getting nothing in return. Which I am totally okay with. Somebody is going to give him more than he is worth– let somebody else make that mistake this time.

      Best case scenario, the Knicks orchestrate a sign and trade with Chicago, with Chicago sending us assets in return for dumping Carlos Boozer on us and renting out our cap space for a year.

    24. JK47

      I’m ready for this whole disappointing Melo-Stat era to come to an end. The Knicks gutted every future consideration they had so they could win one playoff series in four years. It may have been more fun than the Shandon Anderson-Eddy Curry years, but any way you slice it the Melo-Stat era was a failure. Let’s move on. Let him walk, burn this thing to the ground, let the contracts come off the books, trade whatever you can for young, cost-controlled assets and stop doing stupid shit, and maybe someday there will be a winner here. No more quick fixes, and NO MAX CONTRACTS FOR AGING VOLUME SCORERS.

    25. lavor postell

      I seriously doubt melo is going to command his full max and of the teams he’s rumored to want to go too none of them are going to be able to offer him more than like 18m AAV and that’s if they make major moves. If he goes to either Chicago or Houston it’ll be in a sign-and-trade but I think he’s going to pull a Kobe in 2004 and eventually come back to the Knicks. At least with Phil in charge I know we’re not going to overpay him.

    26. er

      Well, I don’t think Melo is worth max money, so I’m interested in seeing if any GMs share my opinion

      remember only we can offer Kobe Max….i meant more of the 16-20 mill max

    27. er

      I’m ready for this whole disappointing Melo-Stat era to come to an end. The Knicks gutted every future consideration they had so they could win one playoff series in four years. It may have been more fun than the Shandon Anderson-Eddy Curry years, but any way you slice it the Melo-Stat era was a failure.

      Yes it sucks that Stat was never fully healthy, we saw glimpses but never full potential

    28. er

      As a side note, i find Knick fans very interesting. Not judging anyone, just think its really interesting the Knick fan mindset, that a team that wasnt relevent since 2000, just had a dissapointing stretch. It is super interesting.

    29. Hubert

      Miami looked old and tired and out of ideas last night. Their defense has really fallen apart, Wade looked like an old man on offense, and Bosh looks like a guy who should be thinking about the mid-level exemption, not a max extension. Seriously, who is going to give this guy 20 million a season? I keep hearing Dallas, but I don’t understand why

      I thought the same thing. Bosh does a lot of nice things on defense but he’s basically Chris Copeland on offense now.

    30. thenamestsam

      I thought the same thing. Bosh does a lot of nice things on defense but he’s basically Chris Copeland on offense now.

      Hard to believe it now but he averaged 8.4 FTs per game his last year in Toronto. It would be really interesting to see how much of his more diverse offensive game he could recapture if he moved to a different team and system.

    31. BigBlueAL

      Bosh’s TS% the last 2 seasons have been 59 and 60%. His problem with the Heat hasnt been his offense its been his huge decline in rebounding.

    32. JK47

      The other problem with Bosh is that he’s a shitty rim protector. He’s soft, and he’s a one-way player.

      The Heat, as a team, are a poor rebounding team on both ends, and Bosh is a big reason why. He’s quite an overrated player in my opinion.

    33. nicos

      I think Bosh’s rebounding decline is mostly due to how he’s used. He was a pretty good offensive rebounder in Toronto but it’s tough to grab offensive boards when you’re 16+ feet from the basket on most plays. And on the defensive end, Miami rotates so much (especially the bigs who blitz pnr’s and then have to scramble) that it’s tough to get consistent rebounding position. He’s never been a great rebounder but he was at least average when he was in Toronto and played more like a traditional power forward.

    34. MSA

      Bosh now is a healthy Amare.

      Still very efficient but don’t add anything more than this to his team.

      At least he’s improving his 3pt shooting. This can be good to offset his physical decline down the road.

    35. yellowboy90

      I think if Bosh went to another team he would become a better version of Aldridge. I do wonder if Phx would make a play for him.

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