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Saturday, October 25, 2014

Knicks Morning News (2014.06.03)

  • [New York Times] Donald Sterling Sued Over Alleged Sexual Harassment of Former Aide (Tue, 03 Jun 2014 09:02:53 GMT)
    A lawsuit filed on Monday against Donald Sterling accuses the embattled Los Angeles Clippers owner of repeatedly subjecting a woman who worked for him to sexual demands and racist comments and says he ultimately fired her when she protested.

  • [New York Times] Oden Hoping for Chance at ‘the Other Trophy’ (Tue, 03 Jun 2014 07:14:58 GMT)
    It’s become a tradition. When the Miami Heat win an Eastern Conference championship, managing general partner Micky Arison accepts the trophy and quickly hands it to someone who hasn’t experienced that moment before.

  • [New York Times] Jackson’s Remarks on Fisher Prove Costly (Tue, 03 Jun 2014 00:48:55 GMT)
    Phil Jackson, the Knicks’ president, was fined by the N.B.A. for publicly discussing the Thunder’s Derek Fisher as a coaching candidate.

  • [New York Daily News] Accused leader of Brooklyn crack gang wanted help from former Knick (Tue, 03 Jun 2014 06:30:00 GMT)
    Ronald (Ra Diggs) Herron was hanging with Harrington and rapper Waka Flocka Flame before the feds brought down his alleged career as the leader of a violent drug gang in the Gowanus Houses project.

  • [New York Daily News] NBA fines Knicks’ Jackson $25K for tampering with Fisher (Tue, 03 Jun 2014 03:06:30 GMT)
    Waiting for Derek Fisher is already costing Phil Jackson money. The NBA fined Jackson $25,000 for tampering with Oklahoma City guard Derek Fisher. ESPN first reported the punishment.

  • 25 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2014.06.03)

    1. KnickfaninNJ

      There’s an interesting article in the times today. It suggests that the NBA max salary is too low because raising it would give more competitive balance in the league. Teams would no longer be able to afford several max players, which would spread out talent. They might have a point about this. But it might also put even more of a premium on drafting young talent so that you could underpay them for a while and it would probably push down salaries of experienced mid range players; so I am not sure I like it.

      http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/sports/basketball/for-the-nba-no-bracket-busters-in-this-tournament.html?referrer=

    2. Farfa

      Noll went on: “It’s a big mistake, and the N.B.A. hasn’t adjusted. So if you have as many as 25 teams that know before the first game is played that they probably won’t even be in the conference finals, doesn’t that make the regular season seem almost meaningless, more of an exhibition than a pathway to a consequential championship?”

      Absolutely true. Still, there’s nothing to be done about it, since this is an issue that can’t be really addressed in a CBA right now, because voiding individual limitations would give way (as you rightfully said) at a major discount for mid-tier players, who constitute the vast majority of the players union.

      I would absolutely love a system where you could pay a guy as much as you want (under the other CBA limitations, which are team salary cap, luxury tax, repeater luxury tax and so on); it would be much truer to real market and would put some balance back into the system. Did you really like these playoffs after the first round (and honestly, the West portion of the first round was much, much better than its Eastern counterpart)? I sure did not. Where’s the fun in watching Miami predictably run over the East? Where’s the fun in knowing that next year, and probably for the next two or three there is not going to be anything good in the East unless Miami keeps its nucleus intact? I understand (even if I do not approve) the logic in eventually tilting the odds towards big city markets, but I don’t understand why this system should lock all those teams away from contention.

    3. DRed

      Anyone with a high 2nd round pick who needs some of that sweet, sweet Dolan money? In my dreams we get one of the UCLA kids (Adams or Anderson) in the second.

    4. DRed

      I also would like to be able to enjoy the draft. Fucking Knicks, man. Give me something!

    5. johnno

      Ephus — if you’re out there today, is there any limit (other than the $3 million/year for all transactions limit) on how much the Knicks can pay another team for a draft pick? Also, I think that the Knicks still have the full $3 million to spend — is that correct?

    6. max fisher-cohen

      @farfa & KnickfaninNJ

      I agree 100%. It’s something I’ve written about a bunch in another forum — just hasn’t come up here before I don’t think. One major concern with it though — beyond ensuring a more even distribution of salaries — is that it’d allow teams to balloon their salaries much more quickly via bird rights. This is why IMO the owners probably aren’t wild about it either. Beyond the prohibitive tax, the new CBA also makes it very difficult technically to increase your spending. It takes a long time of using MLEs and making trades with small salary differences to get your payroll well over the luxury tax. If you could just sign player x to a bird contract for $50m a year for one year and take back small market team X’s bad contracts along with their star, that seems cheap and abusive.

      The other issue that you wrote about though w/r/t keeping the NBA middle class well paid is resolvable: Just set aside a certain percentage of the players’ share of revenue to be redistributed to middle class players. As a $5m/year player, you would maybe make a true salary of maybe $6m, and as a $13m+/year player (or whatever cutoff you want), you’d get no subsidy. It’s a lot like how government taxes (are supposed to) work. Players make the same amount of money as a whole, the union gets to keep its large middle class well paid, and NBA team building suddenly becomes more complex and interesting and less of a game of just doing everything you possibly can to get or develop one of the very few elite players. You don’t have Joe Johnson making more $s than Lebron James.

    7. JK47

      There are some Euro players who might be available in the 2nd round that seem intriguing to me:

      Bogdan Bogdanovich – 6’6″ wing with some point guard type skills; could be a good triangle PG

      Vasilije Mici – more of a pure PG; high IQ player with good court vision, outside shot is a weakness

      Thanasis Antetokounmpo – raw athlete with high upside; scouts rave about his defense, could be a rotation player based on his defensive skills alone

      Nicola Jokic – 6’11” foot center with some creative post moves; is an excellent passer which could make him a good fit for the triangle

    8. johnno

      Bogdan Bogdanovich — Isn’t this the guy the Nets drafted a few years ago? If so, why is he available again?

    9. KnickfaninNJ

      Ephus, I think it’s a great idea to have some sort of revenue sharing for mid tier players.

    10. Brian Cronin

      Bogdan Bogdanovich — Isn’t this the guy the Nets drafted a few years ago? If so, why is he available again?

      No, that’s Bojan Bogdanovic.

      It is weird how similar their names are.

    11. DRed

      Bogdan Bogdanovich — Isn’t this the guy the Nets drafted a few years ago? If so, why is he available again?

      No, that’s Bojan Bogdanovic.

      It is weird how similar their names are.

      It’s easy to tell them apart. One of them is Serbian and the other one is Croatian.

    12. DRed

      But I [Chad Ford] think the Cavs’ preferred route would to be a trade that thins out their roster and adds a young veteran who could immediately lift the Cavs’ long-term chances. The Minnesota Timberwolves’ Kevin Love has been the most often mentioned pickup. But the Cavs also have their eye on several other bigs, including the Chicago Bulls’ Joakim Noah, the Portland Trail Blazers’ LaMarcus Aldridge and the Atlanta Hawks’ Al Horford.

      We’ve got a big who was a former #1 draft pick!

      Multiple league sources say that there are a surprising number of top picks for “sale” this year.

      “I thought getting a lottery pick via trade would be virtually impossible this year,” one NBA GM told Insider. “It’s not. There are a lot of teams in the lottery right now that would prefer a proven player. A lot of owners have lost their patience with the rebuilding process.”

      Now this is more interesting. I mean, Carmelo is a proven player. Tyson is a proven player.

    13. Hugo Busto

      Houston is going to decline Parson’s option of like 960,000 and make him a RFA. Very interesting. They really want that 3rd max player

    14. BigBlueAL

      It would be hilarious if Morey signs Melo. The Melo haters here would be perplexed to say the least lol.

    15. Brian Cronin

      It would be hilarious if Morey signs Melo. The Melo haters here would be perplexed to say the least lol.

      Wouldn’t a Melo hater just say, “See, if Melo’s your third best player you can have a good team”?

    16. Brian Cronin

      In any event, I think that they were always planning on making Parsons a restricted free agent this year rather than deal with him being an unrestricted free agent next season.

    17. ephus

      Because Parson’s is a restricted free agent with Early Bird Rights who is not coming off of a rookie scale contract, his cap hold this year is only 130% of his current salary ($1.3 million). So, until he signs an offer sheet with another team, the Rockets have room to maneuver under the salary cap.

      By making Parsons a RFA, they could give him enough to balance out a sign-and-trade for Melo. The numbers are going to depend on where the apron is finally set, since a team cannot receive a player in a S&T if they will end up over the apron (which will be around $81 million).

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    18. ephus

      Correction, the cap hold for Chandler is 1.7 million (190% of current salary) because the Rockets have full Bird Rights. That is still way below what he will get as a RFA, so the Rockets have an incentive to sign people early and then go over the cap with Parsons.

    19. Brian Cronin

      Yeah, exactly. I think that this was always going to be their plan with Parsons.

    20. yellowboy90

      Could Stephenson play the 3? What about Stephenson for Parsons. Can that happen? I guess Parsons skills might not translate to the style of play in Indy and it would mean George would move back to the two but is the 2/3 used that much differently today?

    21. Owen

      Wouldn’t a Melo hater just say, “See, if Melo’s your third best player you can have a good team”?

      That’s what I would say. Playing third fiddle to Harden and Howard, sure, why not.

      It still would be puzzling. But it’s possible Morey would actually optimize Melo by surrounding him and Harden with the kind of mix that the Sixers put around Iverson in their ECF year. They already have Howard and Beverley. Morey is probably correct in thinking the junkyard dog skill set is deeply undervalued.

      At Melo’s age I would be slightly shocked. But Morey is a contrarian so it’s possible…….

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